Keir Starmer Snakes His Way Through LBC Phone-In |

[@BrendanPatterson]

This man is completelly unfit for office

[@enwmedez5573]

Imagine saying you didn't think your party would win the election that you lost for your party through your shit Brexit policy

[@jonathanfell688]

Which Starmer tried to get to Pro-Stay

[@davidalderson4980]

Quite.

[@Sam.o.29]

Stop acting like the Brexit policy is the only reason Labour lost & stop acting like Corbyn couldn't have changed the policy if he wanted to as party leader...

[@enwmedez5573]

He could have, and he should have, but he didn't. Corbyn's failings doesn't excuse Starmer's... It was a Brexit election, and Kier Starmer's policy proposal was madness.

[@ac4486]

These interviewers on LBC are SOOOO weak. Starmer: "Can't do X - the world is a different place..." WHY is the world such a different place - explain to us why this stops us scrapping HoL. Or why water nationalisation is suddenly impossible? Tell us in detail! No one presses him on his BS

[@davidalderson4980]

Imagine if this man were fighting a competent and more-or-less united Tory Party. He'd be toast.

[@annychest718]

Water is one of the most important things in our life and Corbyn won't let anyone touch it

[@annychest718]

​@@davidalderson4980 🤔 Erm the devil or a satan❓

[@grebo65]

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Never have The Who's lyrics been more prescient than with this guy.

[@The_shadowcraft]

Starmer was Trevor Chin’s man in Corbyn’s shadow cabinet, with Blair and Mandelson’s hands up his back. He’s an empty screen to be projected upon.

[@cliffhughes6010]

In 2017 Corbyn came from nowhere to destroy Teresa May's majority and very nearly win the election. That must have scared Starmer shirtless. What would he have done?

[@cliffhughes6010]

@@LondGWils Well, the press, the BBC, the Conservatives and the right wing of his own party realised there was a real possibility of a Corbyn-led government. So they set out to destroy him and his reputation. Unfortunately, they succeeded.

[@adriftinaboat3452]

@@LondGWilsJohnson’s Get Brexit done happened-Ref MK II in all but name -you still asleep.

[@paulfarr7]

Watching this, it has finally helped me make up my mind. I simply can't vote for him. Absolute 🐍 I just hate this refusal to answer simple, closed ended questions.

[@louislorenzi-prince3842]

Aaron, if everything is being more tightly scrutinized, then why are politicians not laughed off the stage when they deliberately evade answering simple "yes" or "no" questions? And they get away with it.

[@JohnMcChrystal]

Sorry, can’t look at or listen to Starmer for longer than 2 minutes - a mendacious, slippery establishment plant. Literally unbelievable.

[@ac4486]

Biggest creep in politics. An absolute plant

[@Keithlfpieterse]

@JohnMcChrystal: Aye! You are much too kind in your description of the vermin!

[@ShrivelledHeartSoftware]

Worst part is we will get his smug face for 5 more years

[@createyouremotion-cw3qw]

​@@ac4486 reminds me of blair with all his stuttering and non answers.

[@Tao_Tology]

Welp.......politics is like that: you don't only get 'a party to vote for that is juuuuuuust the way I want it'. Imho Starmer is a massive hinderance to the party but it's either vote for the only party that can stop the tories getting another term (despite having Starmer as the current leader) or helping the tories getting another term.

[@christophertarry5852]

I will never vote for labour again.

[@Tao_Tology]

The tory party thank you in advance

[@nl5828]

@Tao_Tology there is currently no difference between the tories and “new new labour”. voting for labour will not make a blind bit of difference, but guardian-reading centrist dads can tell themselves otherwise to feel better!

[@Tao_Tology]

@@nl5828 "there is currently....." The tory party thanks you in advance.

[@Noel-ji8nm]

​@@nl5828Starmer’s threadbare Labour Manifesto makes the Tories look like the party for change, lol.

[@Tao_Tology]

@@Noel-ji8nm So you can vote tory on election day, then.

[@mick947]

People will vote for Labour because the hate the Tory’s, no other reason. But to think this weasel and his acolytes will believe in their own minds that people chose them makes me feel nauseous.

[@slothDAMN]

Aaron, your Starmer 'Are you up for it?!' impression almost made me choke on my dinner... 😂

[@4R53Hole]

"It's a hypothetical."

[@therealrobertbirchall]

Notable that kid Starver always talks about 'my policy's' 'my party' me me me me.

[@Travis_Gixxer]

Completely normal speech patterns for a narcissist. Also doesn’t handle criticism or accountability well

[@nickowen2]

cuntry first party nowhere; by party he means the money men

[@Janos23]

Anyone else feel the comparison/use of the word 'snakes' to describe Starmer feels a bit unfair on snakes?

[@stephenking7095]

A creepy establishment plant

[@ultima579]

Get ready for Tories V2.0 in the next parliament.

[@duplicitouskendoll9402]

Not even Tory. Both sides are actually just globalists, unwilling to do anything to upset the borderless billionaire class and the corporate hegemony.

[@hydra66]

If it's that important (eg lifting children out of poverty) Kier, you should find the money for it. If that involves taxes, it involves taxes. The public will happily vote your backside out in 4 years if you don't offer meaningful change or hope

[@davidalderson4980]

Quite. He takes the 'difficult decisions' not to abolish the two-child cap, and scrap the 'Green New Deal', but not the 'difficult decisions' to tax the rich (i.e. those donors on whom Labour once again relies on for funding).

[@lisaglaze250]

5 years in the uk

[@KevenHutchinson-gt1nn]

The child policy would only cost 1.3 billion. The 8 billion he is raising in tax vs what he wants to spend is 2 billion in surplus. Complete bs it's not affordable.

[@GetGwapThisYear]

Absolutely. It’s a relatively measly amount of money.

[@MrGalvinjohn]

Eagleton's thesis appears to be borne out in this latest Novara critique: Starmer represents the interests of British state. He is deeply undemocratic, an authoritarian with a penchant for ruthlessly putting his own interests above all else (Eagleton, 2022; Hine 2022). Grim times about to get grimmer 😢.

[@willhuddy9840]

Aaron's anger is infectious because of the truth being spoken. Really appreciate your work.

[@ChrispyNut]

I don't think I've ever heard, so clearly "Established thinking", when someone says "common sense", as when Kid Starver says it. Is there anyone who's actually more establishment focused and submissive towards, than him? It's truly stunning he's the "leader" [sic] of the socialist party.

[@nickowen2]

he expelled the socialist. He wants it to be the democrats just like America

[@rosemarycuthbert4623]

Great question. Starmer evasive nonsensical pathetic non response. Vile political opportunist

[@PA3456]

You’d think he couldn’t get lower than a snakes belly but he does.

[@ivanlondon]

Surely taxing the 5% top earners must count as "country first"?

[@pieinher67]

That phone-in was deeply nauseating... the thought of Starma - the compulsive liar - being our PM is beyond my imagination. The UK is one sick puppy.

[@johnwalker91]

Don't concentrate on what he's saying it's what he's not saying should be questioned first time I've heard a snake talk

[@Melissa.Garrett]

I always feel as if I’ve been bathing in slime after watching or listening to Sunak, Starmer, and Farrage. *shudders*

[@MrGrantSloan]

If Starmer's words don't anger you. Nothing will.

[@raymondellis9955]

Dangerous man

[@TheKatLou]

I had to turn him off this morning....🤦‍♀️

[@dulcettonezzz8229]

Literally every word he says goes through a mental filter first. You can see it happen in real time. Absolutely nothing genuine about him

[@sarahsteeleuk4196]

🤢🤮 Labour makes me sick!

[@c0detearz320]

St George was a palestinian

[@Vahloksavjul]

Reform makes me sick.

[@Keithlfpieterse]

Footnote: THANK YOU NOVARA TEAM for keeping your eye on the ball! Keep up the Good Work! Until my last breath I shall follow your broadcasts!

[@racechick2033]

Pathetic excuse for an answer.

[@racechick2033]

I can't watch him.

[@MrTenderisthenight]

Vile man

[@josephcarrdus3132]

13:02 do you think maybe there's a disconnect because he doesn't know what a principal is? He's confused a principal with a legal argument.

[@Sootty58]

How could any labour voter vote for starmer? Come on holborn st pancras!

[@GetGwapThisYear]

What would happen if Labour won but he lost his seat? 😂

[@JhericFury]

@10:05 - ok, so you lied to the labour party members in order to force the party to become something the members didn't want, so it could win? Just make a new party at that point.

[@MrTenderisthenight]

Sorry, Aaron. I had to fast forward past the Starmer section. I feel sick listening to his lies.

[@waddingtoncaveman]

In 2017 and 2019 radical change was a possibility. Hope was offered by the political system. Now in 2024 where is the hope? Where is the change?

[@tomb020780]

Interesting to hear that Kier Starmer actually read a report that he commissioned 🤔

[@frixosfriedman7813]

Can Novara address the reason public spending is not a labour policy anymore.

[@mathieuleader8601]

Keir says he rails against child poverty but the unique Shadow portfolio of Shadow Secretary for Child Poverty did not last five minutes in the shadow cabinet

[@JulieLevinge]

A small rise in tax of the very wealthiest would cover the child benefit cap without causing any hardship whatsoever & directly reversing the ever growing wealth gap.

[@SFReza-w2g]

Little starmer - a great liar and possibly a liar of the century

[@michaeladkins6]

I think boris has retired the title.

[@nickowen2]

like Johnson, he hardly bothers to hide the lies now he is winning. It just shows the society we live in. At least Boris made you laugh. He just makes you sick

[@davidspencer7254]

20:46 to get past the tedious Starmer.

[@sarahjaneross2918]

Going to be a long 5 years... 😂

[@davidalderson4980]

@@sarahjaneross2918Ha ha. It is if he answers every question like that! Has anyone ever before bored their way into power?

[@4R53Hole]

Hypothetical questions can be answered.

[@TheLion-b3h]

Again we see why Nick Ferrari gets these guests….!? He just sits there and holds the Charlatan to nothing, Starmer just sits there and responded by criticising the type of question as Hyperthetical ignoring the need to answer it…!?? And it’s supposed to be a “call in” to answer questions….!?! ANY QUESTIONS..!? Put to him by the public….!?! So infuriating…!!!!

[@JimmyOibruv-dv8jc]

Starmer knew Labour weren’t going to win in 2019 because, as Shadow Brexit Minister, he’d written the Brexit policy that ensured Labour wouldn’t win the 2019 election.

[@adriftinaboat3452]

Prose or poetry, Starmer is a sort of verbal magician. When he speaks you think you’re hearing real words, coherent sentences, substantive statements, however when you press playback to go over what he says, you realise there’s nothing there, just motes of dust in the air and the very faint sound of someone tittering..

[@howmanybeansmakefive]

As an international lawyer, his 'leave it to the ICJ' shtick is disingenuous and he knows it. Cases in International law/courts do not preclude states giving their opinions, International Law is fundamentally based on states proactively doing just that, hence the outsized role of state interventions and bringing cases, as well as the political aspects of legal diplomacy/the UN. Starmer 100% knows this. And being a head of state is not the same as being a lawyer/prosecutor/barrister, while they have duties of 'impartiality', that is categorically not the case for being a political head of state, he is either deliberately eliding or manipulating his experience by implying they do. Also on being on the ICTY representing Croatia, he omitted he was defending Croatia from war crime accusations, but that's what lawyers do so I wouldn't hold that against him.

[@howmanybeansmakefive]

​@@LondGWils Yes I shouldn't have just said impartiality with scare quotes, I can see how that is misleading. I understand the Cab Rank rule (hence my last sentence). What I was trying to refer to is the bar's standards of conduct that discourage giving personal opinions on cases that you are involved with and duty to serve the court, which is what he was appealing to in his response using his experience on the ICTY to deflect giving an answer (and does not apply anyway if you are not a lawyer). What I was saying is that eliding standards of conduct in a legal setting with the role of the Prime Minister is wrong, which is exactly what he was doing. My comment isn't disagreeing with your perspective. I'm also saying that we are electing a political position, not a legal one, so he should not hide behind legal ethics for political questions. But regarding your final point. At no point did I say that Palestine is/should be the number one issue, or that it is/should be everyone's priority. I'm still most likely voting Labour. But even so, my comment is just an observation about how he is dealing with that issue, because however minor/irrelevant a position you think it is or if you disagree, there is a portion of the electorate that does actually care (and if you think they don't matter on a national scale then why do you care what they think). People care not just because of the specific dispute or position, but because of what it implies about how he sees the UK's foreign policy, which is increasingly important/unavoidable as the world is becoming more chaotic. This conflict is a major stressor in global alliances, international law, and diplomacy, and one that the UK has been deeply involved with from the very start going back to the British Mandate, and is still physically/economically/militarily/diplomatically involved with to this day. Even if you disagree with that characterization, many states across the world do see it like that, and we can't just ignore how other states see us or how we act on the world stage. We are still a P5 member of Security Council and we can't deny that, or the ways we are currently involving ourselves in the conflict. It is just being a realist/pragmatist to understand and manage disputes that affect us and our other diplomatic efforts, and to care about how we navigate those tensions and foreign policy. It's not unreasonable for the electorate to want to know what those Foreign Policy intuitions would be, or indeed if he has any other than vacuous legalism. If you're advocating an isolationist approach then that's totally fine, but that's also not what Starmer is saying, nor what the UK has been/is doing.

[@SteveThomas-s5q]

Essential viewing - very well researched - good evidence base - expertly compiled and narrated by Novara media. Thank you. Truth will out.

[@jackoh991]

Everything is political. Eating dinner is. Were fair wages paid? Was it vegan? Was it British grown? What were the air miles? Walking the dog in the rain is. Should one have to have a licence to own a dog? Is the walk you did safe for all minority groups and women? Should all dog owners have to walk their dog even when it's raining? Is it raining enough for the water we need in this country?

[@ChrispyNut]

Politics literally has to do with everything, because it affects everything. The choice of socks is limited by politics banned certain materials and chemicals used in the manufacturer of socks, similar with dinner and as for walking the dog ... ain't noone seen the signs for the past decades about fines for not cleaning up a dog's mess? Even things that aren't political, are political because there's political discussions about whether to include or exclude from politics. The Anti-Politics police just wheel that out, when people are targetting what they don't like and their defence is made of fresh fruit jelly [enzymes in the fruit stopping the jelly from setting]

[@howmanybeansmakefive]

What frustrated me about his Gaza response is that, while I understand bringing up the hostages and "security of israel" prob needs to be mentioned, even his both sides-ism veneer falls flat. He spent most of the answer 'hedging' to the point he was literally only bumbling about Israel's security, in a question specifically about the present/future of Palestine. And it was in such a way/tone that I don't even think he realized how he sounded. It's just so deeply ingrained he's totally blind to it. That goes beyond politicking to his core intuitions, which is the exact thing that people are worried about/want answers to. Also he listed/talked about speaking to world leaders for a solution, but at no point did he or nick say/ask if he has spoken to any Palestinians.

[@aahmed989]

Keir will work for Israel in the parliament.

[@clairemontgomerycampbell5261]

I don't know why Stamer didn't just say, the genocide is plusable as per the ICJ. But then he might have to stop the sales of weapons. Ash is wonderful.

[@stephen_pfrimmer]

Thank you Ash, Helena, and Aaron.

[@amandajones3311]

'Mediocre and mendacious' Might be one of the worst political leaders this country has ever had. PM...heaven help us.

[@CarolHaynesJ]

It's simple to renationalise utilities - particularly power. Currently we have private companies offering services - set up a competing nationalised company and force prices down. People will move to a cheaper provider. If companies don't compete with nationalised prices they will be finished. No need to pay shareholders anything. For water set legal targets with the penalty that companies failing to meet them will lose their monopoly.

[@sararichardson737]

Thinking!🎉

[@JhericFury]

I was thinking about this myself. The argument they use is like if restaurants that failed their food rating had to be bought out by the govt to be closed down. It's nonsense.

[@joansudoku8283]

Thanks!

[@ahguitar1]

I'm so angry with Novara. I've managed my whole life to never hear/see Marina Hyde. I've only had to deal with her written words. And then suddenly she was on my screen, being exactly as awful as I thought she might.

[@petemarchetto4998]

Demonising Corbyn was always a foolish thing for Starmer to do when he served as one of his lieutenants. It was so unnecessary. Let's hope that now people have seen this is the thing that screws Starmer over in interviews that everyone presses on it. He's wrought havoc with his factional obsession and it's good to see him being hit by shrapnel of his own making. But it goes beyond that. There were many better ways to handle this interview without giving ground. It amazes me watching his incompetence that he rose so high in the legal profession - I wouldn't want him to defend me against a shoplifting charge, let alone anything more serious. That bodes ill for him as Prime Minister. Time and time again I've watched him tie himself into a knot when there were plenty of ways out of doing that. ... and it gets worse. Something everyone seems to have forgotten is that in July 2022 Starmer dismissed nationalisation not as 'unaffordable', not as 'circumstances have changed', but as 'ideological' thus repudiating the very principle behind one of his pledges meaning it can only - ONLY - have been a dishonest promise he never believed in in the first place. All of which said, he IS right about weapons to Israel. There is a marked difference between the systems that maintain the purely defensive Iron Dome which Israel SHOULD have and the kind of weapons with which Israel is currently committing genocide in the Gaza strip. Though again, the bloke is such a useless communicator that that simple sentence eluded him. Same with 'genocide'. "If the international court says it is genocide it is genocide, but I can't sit here and unilaterally state it to be so." Once more, his argument is reasonable - let's not forget that in saying Putin has committed war crimes that IS something on which there has been a ruling, and 'genocide' is a big word to throw out there as a future PM before it's been adjudicated. It's one thing for me, Joe Nobody, to call it a genocide (as I did up there) but quite another for a soon-to-be head of state to give that as an opinion. I really think NM has to be wary of overdoing the attack lines. While I agree with the analysis overall, you're reaching. I'm much more concerned about Starmer's inability to express himself clearly even when he's right.

[@Gillyy123]

Ah yes, Shakespeare the playwright whose plays are famously unpolitical...

[@TheOverseerDDF]

2:51 That gulp lmao

[@Lonniejockstrap]

Ten out of 10 for Ronnie O'Sullivan. Well done lad.

[@JanetteHeffernan]

Starmer as PM. What a prospect for the future!

[@kingchamed]

As a big snooker and Ronnie fan, I was hyped when he backed Faiza. Top man!

[@nastropc]

More Helena please, we stan

[@JhericFury]

"it's a hypothetical" you're the shadow govt! Everything is a hypothetical! Every appearance makes me hate him more. It's not even just because he's Tory light anymore, he is genuinely one of the most snakeish politicians I've seen

[@Keithlfpieterse]

P.S. As for Aaron's question: "What's the stuff that gets Keir Starmer up in the morning?" My response would be - on behalf of Michel Foucault with respect to the scope of his writing: the quest, the race, the adrenalin-pumping most potent drug on the planet i.e. "POWER!"

[@Nofanofpolitics]

I cannot in good conscience vote for Starmer.

[@colinhowarth]

Why is he talking about the manifesto its hypothetical? Pity westminster didnt think like Novara, their sponsors are us as well ✊

[@susanmason6476]

I HATE STARMER,WE HAVE TO GET RID OF HIM NOW .

[@mathieuleader8601]

the review of arms sales did not stop Thatcher from halting sales of arms after the bombing of Lebanon until the Major ministry recinded it

[@philipmurray9532]

Starmer the Snake

[@K.r.w915]

Voting for whoever calls for a ceasefire the only way they will get the message

[@angelahickson313]

I'm a life longer Labour voter, i cannot wait for this general election so looking foward to voting 💚

[@JayeshPatel-ct5ps]

Come on Ronnie!!

[@djdrogs]

18:40 Next question should be if the ICC issues an arrest warrant for Netanyahu, would he honor it?

[@InkyBizzo]

Aaron was on form on this one. The intro on Boris Johnson had me in stitches 😂😂

[@FabulousWanderers]

Let us all see a TV debate between Nigel & Sir Keir, we as a United Nation deserves this 🧡

[@subcynic]

in all my days i never thought novara would include coverage of the Rocket. What a hero.

[@amandajones3311]

Why go on a radio studio to be qi questioned if you cant answer 'questions in a studio' Calling visual footage 'one clip here and there" Sums up j his views on the people being slaughtered..

[@benjamincross50]

Pay off the shareholders. . . not my Labour anymore

[@TheLion-b3h]

Asha just smashes the custard pie right in the Clowns Faces….!?!! Haaaaa….!!! Love her..! 😝🤣🤭

[@sheeny1710]

I can’t watch him anymore… he has SO MICH TO ANSWER FOR. God help us!!!!!

[@rosemarycuthbert4623]

Art works in a much more subtle way. Art is even more important now

[@JhericFury]

9:50 hey, what? First of all, i don't concede that you need to pay off the share holders. They're gouging the citizens for a worse service, and in the case of water companies, they're actively hurting citizens, investing isn't a sure thing, it's a risk, shareholders know that. Secondly, why would buying out the shareholders mean you can't reduce bills? Nationalised services work because you replace the bills with tax money. Even if you needed a temporary fee to offset that buyout (debatable), the price would still be lower because that main price is gone

[@davidalderson4980]

2019 was a Brexit election, and the incoherence of the Labour position on that central issue was down to Starmer, the shadow Brexit secretary. Corbyn wanted a people's Brexit. That should have been the policy.

[@jonathanfell688]

What fk is a 'people's Brexit'? Any Brexit was and is total lunacy.

[@Tao_Tology]

What utter historical revisionism nonsense. _Corbyn_ was the Labour Party leader. _Corbyn_ chose the "great" strategy of not having a clear stance for the party either way (which then lost them support from both Leave AND Remain voters since neither side knew what a Corbyn government's position would have been. Starmer is awful and a hinderence to the party but don't try to blame him for Corbyn's lack of political campaigning ability.

[@davidalderson4980]

@@jonathanfell688 A people's Brexit as proposed by Corbyn was a form of 'soft' Brexit that would have retained workers' rights, environmental protections and so on. It was the best we could have hoped for. But we are where we are because parliamentary remainers, having lost the referendum, were too arrogant and intransigent to compromise at the indicative vote stage. That stupidity resulted in the downfall of May and leadership of Johnson, the 2019 election, which no Labour leader could have won, and all that followed. Compromise would have got Brexit out of the way and left May as Tory leader, making a Tory defeat at a subsequent election more achievable.

[@lisadefries6718]

Having studied Art History to MA level I can assure everyone Art is political and highly commercial. Individuals can choose to be creative but to bring that creativity to a wider audience the work and choice to even use it becomes political in some form. We are all a product of our times even if we choose to swim against the tide it is with knowledge the tide exists. As a society we make choices about what we support which is political so as art is part of our society…..

[@nlewin5072]

Some predictable comments about Starmer(and I agree with them) but Peter Hitchen is convinced that Starmer is a Trot and far more radical than Corbyn was. I find that hard to believe, and even harder with Establishment Reeves by his side, but does Hitchens know something that the rest of us don't?

[@jessicahansen1288]

"And I can't wait to see it" my god, Ash is so brutal 😂

[@thegamers9133]

What a snake.

[@MultiPricklyporcupin]

Ronnie O’Sullivan legend

[@callyyeadon2653]

Also The Labour Files ( part 1&2)..& The Big Lie (Alexei Sayle)

[@JhericFury]

The literary festival story is the height of moderate politics. "I'm all for environmentalism and anti war action, but not if it effects the annual literary festival"

[@pippatandy4797]

Can't bear to watch KS!

[@JimmyOibruv-dv8jc]

If Shakespeare wasn’t political, Marina, then why did he rewrite history in order to glaze whomever was the current monarch of the time?

[@therealrobertbirchall]

If the tories want to win the 2024 GE all they have to do is point out continuously Starver's dishonesty. He makes Bozo the clown look like Ghandi.

[@Jimmytwoshoes789]

Mainstream media has already made up its mind and wants Labour

[@dovic86]

the timestamps are wrong

[@mikec-1687]

What going on with A-A-Ron tonight? Very sassy. Might be on the prosecco.