0:57 Look for color profiles supplied by printer profiles. 1:50 paper suppliers can do prints to specific profiles. Sounds worth requesting. 3:52 specific to each canon on canon paper versus epson on canon papers. 4:29 use papers at your own choice, you'll need to use specific software printouts, measurements of printed swatches, trial by error until you arrive at prints that satisfy your eye: note the color profile for your own future use. 9:20 he uses a specific image. Always keep track of paper's texture, natural color, weight, texture, coating if any, and quirks of how your owned printer affects print surface and ink absorption as it feed the paper through. Thank you for the education.
@KeithCooper19 күн бұрын
Glad to help
@sinsmum2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for covering the topic Keith, very much appreciated. Mike from NZ
@KeithCooper2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the original question! This is one advantage of moving the video recording up to my office ;-)
@grahamebell28792 жыл бұрын
Hi Keith I have been watching your you tube presentations for quite some while now l have love them all for all the input and knowledge you have. I do suffer with some learning difficulties, so for give my grammar not up to much. I have just acquired a Epson ET - 8580 printer I was looking at myself and thought that might be what I would meet my needs such as lower ink running costs. And after seeing what you said about it, I have taken the plunge, I think it is just what I need. All I have to do now is get the know how to maximize it's potential. Your web site is great so great that is where I come a little unstuck I find the amount of information a little overwhelming still that's my problem. I will wade through it and get there eventually. A massive thanks.
@KeithCooper2 жыл бұрын
Glad it's of help - yes, the site is a bit information heavy... If you've any specific questions, you're welcome to email me at Northlight?
@travellingjournalist9662 ай бұрын
It’s good you mentioned spectrum paper I used their pinnacle cotton fibre paper loved the colours on that, I even printed an advertising poster for outside my boat forgot it was outside it rained over night it was fine the ink never ran lol
@KeithCooper2 ай бұрын
Yes - prints can be surprisingly robust sometimes!
@keithsanders65542 жыл бұрын
Lots of great information here. I gained much comfort from hearing that you are an Innova user. Not a well known brand but I swear by their Innova double sided glossy. I made a profile using my ColorMunki and I can print direct without test strips. I file them in a "pinch book" and, hey presto an instant portfolio.
@KeithCooper2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I've used them for many years
@vernonsmith6176 Жыл бұрын
Me, I use Red River paper...
@VictoriaBlayney2 жыл бұрын
All so helpful Keith. Thank you
@KeithCooper2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@johnvaleanbaily2462 жыл бұрын
Well, thank you Keith, that cleared up some of the mysteries surrounding paper which I've been trying to get my head around. I tend to stick with Canon branded paper or Red River, both of which seem to work reasonably well for my uncalibrated eyeball !
@KeithCooper2 жыл бұрын
Thanks - once again based on some questions I'd been asked here!
@mikepenny24912 жыл бұрын
Excellent Keith
@KeithCooper2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@aperezy172 жыл бұрын
Keith thanks for this great video. I just got a canon Pro-300 printer and I am new to fine printing. The question I have is that for B&W printing is it recommended to create a custom ICC profile? thks
@KeithCooper2 жыл бұрын
In general no - for the PRO-300 I found the Canon B&W print mode worked very well. I have an article specifically covering it here: www.northlight-images.co.uk/black-and-white-printing-with-the-pro-300/
@aperezy172 жыл бұрын
@@KeithCooper Thanks for your kindness and quick response. I will check your article. Cheers
@richardvincil69882 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this; loads of good info. Right now trying to get the best b&w image i can from the epson et 8550 using the velvet fine art setting in order to use the pigment black ink as well.
@KeithCooper2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@susanpope702 Жыл бұрын
Mr Cooper ,Please help with how to find profiles for iPad pro and iPhone. Love your very helpful videos. Just purchased a et8550, it is great. Thank you
@KeithCooper Жыл бұрын
Sorry about this, but... There are no ipad/iphone profiles - such devices are simply the wrong place to start for any accuracy or quality in printing
@susanpope7544 Жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
@thomaseriksson62562 жыл бұрын
Loots of usefull information, thank you
@KeithCooper2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@ddsdss2562 жыл бұрын
Moab is another respected source in the US. I've yet to conduct a test of the various samples I have from Moab, Red River, Canson, and Hahnemühle, but so far, I've been very pleased with the results from various Epson-branded paper I've used so far in my P900. I'll probably stick with Epson for most jobs (Ultra Premium Luster being my default). Their Legacy Baryta produced outstanding results but it seems to have been discontinued (I wish I knew who actually made it--the Epson person I spoke with didn't know), so I got samples from the other sources to find an alternative. Any ideas? Anyway, I always use the OEM ICC profile and have yet to go wrong doing so.
@KeithCooper2 жыл бұрын
I have some new Innova papers for testing...
@MacEffie2 жыл бұрын
Thxs for making nice video on printing. Keep up the good work. :)
@KeithCooper2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ronboe63252 жыл бұрын
Paper is a rabbit hole that I'm starting to dip my toe in. Perhaps suggestions for newbies on where to start so we can begin to get a feel for papers (for now I've assumed Epson branded paper for Epson printers - I just upgraded to a P900 but experimenting with Marrutt papers at the moment). I have a pack of 4x6 HP paper I can't get ink to cure on either. An event that put me off dissimilar branded paper; but I suspect it's the same stuff you have there. :^) As I look into expanding my paper knowledge I'm met with terms like Baryta, Platinum, cotton etc.. Further confusing are terms like luster and semi-gloss (I know the difference if I'm selling house paint but not with paper!) so some help there would be appreciated (as has all your reviews; a bit shocked you don't have three times the number of subscribers!).
@KeithCooper2 жыл бұрын
I have a video about what I think should be the first things to print with a new printer kzbin.info/www/bejne/iF60Y4qao7OpjbM For initial paper choices, see: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJnZemtjbbChnNk Yes, some papers jus don't work, no matter how many different settings you try ;-) PS I only started the YT videos 2 years ago - the written articles go back nearly 20 ;-)
@keithmagee4450 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful video 👍
@KeithCooper Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@1stWorldProblemsSolved2 жыл бұрын
Red River Papers have been overall good to great for me. They are pretty close to my house and I plan on stopping in one day for a tour to put on KZbin if they will allow it.
@KeithCooper2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I only know them indirectly.
@vernonsmith6176 Жыл бұрын
Me, I use Red River paper...everytime they were at the photoplus expo...I would grab some samples...
@paintingsbyyvoni8672 жыл бұрын
Hi Keith, I only discovered you recently and I have become a great fan . I do have one question, please. I have two printers Epson R3000 and Epson Stylus 9900 ... The r3000 is dying and I am thinking of getting a canon Prograf 300 .. (I watched your review) .. I am using Epson's Presentation Paper - 27lb 4.9 mil thickness. This is the most suitable paper for my projects... can't use anything else... If I do get the Canon 300 .. what type of media should I select from the menu? Note that I print from Photoshop and I do have the profile for this specific paper... Thank you, I do appreciate the time and information you provide to all of us.... Best, Yvoni
@KeithCooper2 жыл бұрын
Thanks - Glad it's of interest. I'm afraid those [US?] figures for the paper mean nothing to me. If you can send me a link to paper info, I may be able to work it out, but 27lb is not a measure used anywhere I know. BTW. your old profile will be of no real use for the PRO-300. Profiles are for the combination of paper AND printer
@simonemedori2 жыл бұрын
Hi Keith, I use a canon pro-300, usually with canon paper and hence with corresponding profiles. I recently got some “Fabriano Artistico” 300gsm paper, 14 x 19 cm, cold pressed, Extra white. Do you think I can use it on my pro-300? Which printer pre-defined profile would you choose?
@KeithCooper2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it will work - but it needs the profile for that paper! You could try the 'premium fine art rough' setting - should work for B&W print mode, but as to the profile for colour - who knows.
@kirstyriceart8442 жыл бұрын
I have an ET-8550 and have been using mostly 300gsm glossy from the rear feeder, but can also print 350gsm Baryta this way as well. I purchased a 312gsm Fine Art paper but this won't feed through the rear feeder and has to go through the manual feed. Do you have any advice as to why this would be the case? Thank you for all the information. (I asked the supplier but they were not helpful)
@KeithCooper2 жыл бұрын
It's all about the media type in use (what is selected in the driver) - some will only work with a specific slot See the main [written] 8550 review for more about this. www.northlight-images.co.uk/epson-et-8550-printer-review/ I don't have the printer here at the moment - but paper feeding is something I wanted to look at again if I get a chance.
@steveh12732 жыл бұрын
I use Canson mostly, notice you did not include theirs in the paper reviews, or I didn't see it.
@KeithCooper2 жыл бұрын
I use what I can get to test. If Canson sent me some paper I'd test it - I simply can't afford to buy boxes of expensive paper for this sort of testing.
@c64club6 ай бұрын
Some thought, maybe with basic error on idea level but maybe it should work. If I have good, profiled scanner, then I have reasonably precise and wide tonal range device that sees colors in stable, constant, already measured way. Is there possible to scan my first test print (known pattern or other known image) and recalculate the result to my paper+inks+printer set' ICC, having a scanner's ICC? Maybe there's already a software for such operation but I don't know where to search. I would write you an email you but I find YT comment a double useful place in such case - you see it, there is another interaction on your channel, and maybe other users know something to share.
@KeithCooper6 ай бұрын
Scanner based profiling has been round for many years [look at silverfast for example] It didn't work particularly well back then and it still has the same limitations of the spectral response of the scanner - the RGB data from the scanner is simply not good enough for good profile making. It can work sometimes on some paper, but on others, it's awful. The scanner's icc is for producing good scans - a good looking scan is not the same as a useful dataset for creating printer profiles
@LOTUSARTSTUDIO-gx8yf2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant 🙏👌👌👌👌
@KeithCooper2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@sacrebleumichelle Жыл бұрын
Hi Keith! Great videos :) Q: what is the difference between 'photo paper' -> 'matte photo paper' and 'fine art paper' -> 'photo paper pro premium matte a'? I use canons photo paper pro premium matte A4, but when I select that option in the fine art paper selection I have to use the manual feed tray. I rather use the top feed😅 Thanks!
@KeithCooper Жыл бұрын
Surface coating and paper finish - hence the 'look' of prints. Art papers tend to be thicker I believe the HFAP media setting lets you use the top feed on some printers, but that depends on what was used to create the paper's ICC profiles Also depends on the model of printer...
@sacrebleumichelle Жыл бұрын
@@KeithCooper ah, I see! I'm not sure if I made it clear, but I meant the difference between the 'matte photo paper' and ' photo paper premium matte a' options in canons printer software when selecting a media type and printer profile. Now I select the 'matte photo paper' option when printing on my pixma pro 200 even though I use canons premium matte paper, because I it allows me to use the top feed instead of the manual. I just wondered if I would get even better results if I selected the 'pro premium matte a' setting :)
@KeithCooper Жыл бұрын
@@sacrebleumichelle I don't know - use one of my specialist test images - reduced to A5 is enough, to see how well it performs Usually there is not much difference, but not always... www.northlight-images.co.uk/printer-test-images/
@sacrebleumichelle Жыл бұрын
@@KeithCooper Alright, thanks! :)
@fredwestinghouse29452 жыл бұрын
What does the weight of the paper have to do with the quality of it? Example, the same matt paper, one is 260gsm and the other is 315gsm - what difference does the weight element bring? Assume both papers print the same image on the same printer and same ink set.
@KeithCooper2 жыл бұрын
The weight is often due to the material the substrate is made from, so there is the obvious changes there. However, there is a very strong element of marketing involved. People who buy prints rarely note the thickness of a paper People who buy paper often do... I should also add that large (bigger than A2) prints on heavier papers can be easier to handle
@keddyphotoeclecticphotogra61202 жыл бұрын
Is my new Canon Image Prograf 300 producing Giclee prints on Pro Lustre paper
@KeithCooper2 жыл бұрын
Given that the word 'Giclee' is meaningless marketing hokum, it either does or does not, depending on who you are talking to ;-) It's a word used to sell stuff - it has no actual meaning any more... :-)
@keddyphotoeclecticphotogra61202 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Sir.
@fredwestinghouse29452 жыл бұрын
As you say, there are only a few actual paper manufacturers. Most paper sellers are simply paper rebranded from those manufacturers. But are there any papers you would avoid? I see some very cheap glossy paper from online sellers, but I am extremely wary of these papers. God knows what quality the papers are, their longetivity etc. So, how will someone who is outside of the industry know what is good paper, from a good paper seller, and what is not?
@KeithCooper2 жыл бұрын
My only solution to that is to buy from a reputable supplier - here in the UK that covers quite a few. An incomplete list [just ones I know to talk to] would be: Paper Spectrum (my local supplier) In alphabetical order: FineArtFoto Fotospeed Innova PermaJet Obviously there are the 'big names' I'd include such as Canson and Hannemuhle - others... well, it depends... If a supplier can't provide me with full technical specs for a paper, that raises warning flags. If they don't provide any profiles at all, it raises even more. Making profiles costs a business money - it's a sign of a commitment to quality to me. If their web site gives me the impression they also run a market stall, it's not good If they really push '3rd party ink' or use the word 'compatible' I'm wary...
@KeithCooper2 жыл бұрын
I'll shortly have a video covering aspects of this - thanks for the question!
@vernonsmith6176 Жыл бұрын
@@KeithCooper I use Red River paper...everytime they were at the photoplus expo held in NYC .I would grab some samples...