Kendōkas Try to Keep Up with Fencers | SELF

[@lets_lvl_up]

Is nobody going to comment on the kendo stomps they did when attacking? It's interesting how hard it is to override muscle memory.

[@juanpch2175]

yea the movement is pretty different as they Hop and Stomp compared to the actual fencers that they slide the shoes on the floor

[@SUSHlMII]

i was so into watching the fight that i didnt notice that lmao

[@i8u2manytimes]

I also noticed that they were still only going forward and forgetting they can retreat after the strikes, this allowing many double hits to be scored

[@townlegends5160]

Yea i practice kendo and it's called fumikomi which is 1 step 1 cut

[@felixhenson9926]

That was exactly what i came here to comment! Loved that the stomps stayed

[@NightW844]

Allyson in the final round just powered through, she picked up everything quickly!

[@Ookami31]

Yeah, she just switched to beast mode.

[@MadMakerWorkshop]

I observed the same - she just went for it. The last match was hers by full on confidence.

[@InsomniaQ]

Because she wasn't fencing, she used kendo. No retreating, just charging forward like a berserk with hitting and stomping, only hand movements were somewhat fencing-like, while watching it I wondered why is she not screaming yet xD Those 2 guys at least tried to use everything they learned 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@Aquilenne]

It was kind of interesting in that they seemed to counter each other. Katsushi seemed very defensive, Allyson was incredibly aggressive, and Nathan seemed like he was trying to actively analyse deeply rather than quickly. Katsushi's lack of aggression meant that Nathan had the time to try solving the problem of getting past him. Allyson's ridiculous aggression got punished heavily when she tried running into Katsushi's weapon. Nathan seemed like he kept getting pressured too quickly to decide what to do against Allyson.

[@ermweezer]

I really like how Katsushi practices it while he’s witnessing it!

[@valeriag9443]

I was about to comment that!!

[@Shark-sh0t]

at all the kendo kai I've practiced at, when everybody gathers around sensei to learn waza, everyone mimics the waza sensei is teaching as he demonstrates. It felt very kendo 😁

[@SeanWinters]

Funny enough, for judo the opposite is encouraged, where you're taught to try and replicate after just watching. This gives a new skill, being able to learn while only watching, not being taught.

[@bigfrankfraser1391]

as someone who did historical fencing for 30 years, this was a lovely video, makes me miss fencing, i had to stop after an accident where during thrusting, my blade snapped on the dummy and sliced the muscles in my forearm, had them surgically fixed but left me with a locked wrist

[@liteney]

Sorry about the injury, glad you found and enjoyed the video. :)

[@charlesdarwindanao7158]

Is it possible for you to use your other arm since it looks like the back arm is not being actively used?

[@bigfrankfraser1391]

@@charlesdarwindanao7158 no, i tried but muscle memory is to stubborn

[@sepg5084]

I used to be an adventurer like you, then I took an arrow to the knee.

[@bigfrankfraser1391]

@@sepg5084 i also took an arrow to the knee, when i proposed to my now wife 35 years ago

[@ShiroRiya]

I watched the reverse video first, and I was impressed with the fencers really getting into it. They were a bit shy to be loud at first, but they really got into it when they got to the end. But the kendoka took it to the next level, they observe and repeat things so well, even their first try. They take direction immediately and then don't forget it. Kendo is so well disciplined, it does make sense. But watching them get that footwork down so quickly was amazing!

[@Katyloveheart]

Me too

[@aydenmartin5650]

Fencing is a lot more natural tbf, Kendo is very artificial in how it plays out with whats allowed, how it should be done etc which makes it more awkward to learn

[@aussiechris5904]

Same, that's what brought me here. All very talented people, picking up on other variants of their ports. Cool stuff.

[@PrimetimeBJJ]

its the major difference between a sport and a martial art imo

[@luchadorito]

Do these with Full contact martial artists, that would be amazing. Boxing and Muay Thai or judo and wrestling, they are just similar and just different enough to be exciting

[@notofuspeed]

Yea something similar but different enough. I think BJJ and wrestling would be very interesting.

[@noway5266]

Just watch old ufc and k1

[@luchadorito]

@@noway5266 I already do but 1: sports have evolved a lot in the past decades, especially Judo with the 2010 IJF rule reforms. and 2: fights show the different results of using these arts, this show focuses on the practicioners' different expereinces.

[@midshipman8654]

@@notofuspeed i think judo and wrestling would be a better one since they are both primarily about geting the opponent to the ground, while bjj is more about WHAT you do while you are on the ground.

[@antondelacruz9362]

I think itd be harder to do striking because the muscle memory and strength need to be developed for a long time. By comparison, kendo and fencing can be practiced even on the same day because you can depend on timing and distancing, even if the technique isnt great.

[@valeriag9443]

I really like how Tasha relates it to Kendo when teaching them the moves

[@DulyDullahan]

I really don’t play any specific sports but I absolutely love this series! I remembered binging all of them a few months ago so I’m glad I can binge the rest now 😁

[@ohbabycat]

Allyson was very quick to adopt the fencing posture. she definitely seemed the most comfortable

[@TweEkc]

She really went for it.

[@fawziefuxia]

this was such a fun watch!!! Never thought about how similar these 2 sports are, but it's amazing to see how there's a lot in common between them. Props to the production/editing team too -- not sure if the clips where the moves are mirrored in both kendo and fencing were researched and pre-planned or just a coincidence, but it was lovely seeing that comparison.

[@timothywilliams2252]

I watched both vids, and thoroughly enjoyed them! I must say, as a fencer, kendo always looked sloppy to me. But after watching the fencers trying to learn kendo, I never realized how graceful the art was! Moreover, I was very impressed with the kendoka, especially in their bouts. They seemed to pick up on it faster than I ever did! Just awesome! More, please! :)

[@Kunstdesfechtens]

It’s all about what’s familiar to you. As a HEMA fencer, sport fencing seems sloppy to me due to suicidal tactics: hitting first isn’t good if you get hit right after in most HEMA tournaments. As a kenjutsuka, kendo seems both familiar but weird because the cutting mechanics are different. However, sport fencing’s blade actions are still similar to longsword and messer sometimes. But it’s all cool: we’re all just folks who like to hit each other with fake swords. One thing that I love about sport fencing is the pedagogy: arguably the best of any sport, ever. Phenomenal stuff. Much respect to all of you. Great video. ⚔️⚔️⚔️

[@a-blivvy-yus]

I find the contrast in how double hits are handled quite interesting between the two sports. Kendo almost treats double hits as not being a thing that happens, and if it does happen, no point is awarded. Fencing doesn't treat it as a common occurence, but still an ordinary one, and handles it the opposite way - both fighters are awarded the point. On one side, you have "you both die so you both lose" logic and on the other it's "you both wound your opponent so you both win"

[@randomdude4505]

Double touches are only a thing in epee. Both saber and foil have what are called right away rules that govern which touch has priority. If neither fencer had right away and there is a double touch, no point is awarded.

[@a-blivvy-yus]

@@randomdude4505 Actually, it's "right of way" not "right away" but yes. Also sometimes called "priority" instead. And not relevant to this specific comparison, which is between kendo and epee fencing. The contrast between epee and other Western fencing styles is an interesting - but separate - discussion. And these days, can include lightsabers! There's also interesting doublehit rules in HEMA, which, once again, are a separate topic of their own (and have several variants, much like fencing).

[@randomdude4505]

@@a-blivvy-yus that's what I get for using voice to text.

[@a-blivvy-yus]

@@randomdude4505 xD that makes the typo make so much more sense!

[@reasonabledaemonette2958]

I do naginata instead of kendo, but I believe similar logic applies: the rules are set up as they are so as to encourage an offensive mindset. As long as the kendoka is doing good attacks and they don't get caught by an opponent's waza, they are at their safest during the attack, because at best they score a point and at worse they get an aiuchi/double hit. If aiuchi was a point for both kendoka, the one behind in points would want to avoid the possibility of aiuchi entirely, which would encourage a defensive mindset instead. (Also, IIRC many kendo matches are to first point, which means there would be tons and tons of draws.)

[@GdzieJestNemo]

i love such discipline exchanges. As for fencing - first time i see someone asking to bend the wrist in parry 4 - it's generally taught the exact opposite in Europe: breaking the wrist is a big no-no in literature and coaches

[@tashahall3343]

Really? I’m not sure I’ve seen a parry 4 that doesn’t bend the wrist. I can’t imagine it.

[@GdzieJestNemo]

@@tashahall3343 i can see it working with bend wrist in foil since you only need a blade contact, but in epee a thrust will go straight past such parry due to leverage

[@tashahall3343]

I can assure you, you can take a really strong deep 4 in epee that a blade can’t break through. It was what I relied on half the time while competing. It’s all about the timing :)

[@GdzieJestNemo]

@@tashahall3343 i was always taught that banding the wrist is a big mistake (similar if you attacked with bend arm). Epeeist taking 4 over 6 was kind of a mistake to begin with.

[@dianaunger3269]

Classical 4 parry uses a bent wrist, modern 4 is wrist straight much like the beat. Bending the wrist will expose the outside of the forearm to attack so a no no in epee.

[@ZetJungSone]

Good series that needs to be recognize! I used to do kendo when I was so young and this video also makes me want to go for fencing!

[@yeracontra]

The kendoka made such huge and quick improvements! They also fought so well cos they have the innate fighting spirit and combat mindset wired in their brains so by the time they faced each other they rocked!

[@WtbgoldBlogspot]

Wow. Even when Allyson is silent she's still yelling her kiai.

[@nya.nyandrew]

they did really good, and it's fun seeing them adjust their stances to fencing but still keeping those firmer feet and stomps (and being pretty dang fast at it!)

[@isaaclim8645]

It's so interesting how similar so many sports are.. for me im learning Boxing and i can see alot of the strategies have the same rationale This makes me wanna try out even more sports!

[@Short_Round1999]

Now that I think about it. I think it would be very beneficial for athletes to practice the basics of similar sports, like this video fencers and kendoka practicing each other’s sport. It could add subtle techniques to their normal practice.

[@MedievalMary]

Both episodes were really cool to watch. One of my favorites.

[@MinnanoKendo]

Funny to see you Fencing Nathan😆 At the end you looked great👍🏻

[@NeiCHAMA]

What’s so funny?! 🤣 Hahah

[@MinnanoKendo]

@@NeiCHAMA Idk, I guess watching your quick progress was quite entertaining😁

[@NeiCHAMA]

Haha. Thanks Tomas (^^)

[@ultimomos5918]

It's cool to see these fencing sports get more attention. I've been studying what my school calls MWMA or mixed weapons martial arts (a close equivalent would be HEMA) and its pretty cool to see these things gain traction and popularity. The only real gripe I have about MOF and Kendo is its target limitations and sportification of what is, at its core, a martial art. Not a big issue if you're more interested in the sporting and competitive aspects of it though in doing so it removes the full range of options available in an actual fight with these weapons. Also, doubling is kinda antithetical to the concept of like, winning and surviving an actual fight lol. Having fenced some MOF trained fencers I would say thats kinda their biggest weakness, they tend to go for points with reckless abandon to doubles and afterblows. Great documentary though and glad to see it getting coverage :)

[@ddot9566]

Your point is fascinating. I hadn't thought about it the way you said. I feel like the difference in time periods kind of necessitate a change perhaps. We aren't walking around openly carrying swords anymore and going into battle with this kind of weaponry isn't a thing. It seems to me that the "sportification" of a martial art is sort of inevitable to keep it relevant to a larger audience. I could be totally reading that wrong though since I've never participated in mixed weapons martial arts. I'd be interested in how you think the art would remain simply a martial art without the sport element and still attract members.

[@rodrigoandrade256]

@@ddot9566 Interesting to see that debate with Weapon Martial Arts. As a grappler (Brazilian Jiu Jitsu) practicioner I see this debate as well, because some people feel like Judo lost some of it's essence after becoming an olympic sport by losing some of the more effective or dangerous techniques in order to be more "Watchable" and there are many people that feel the same would happen with BJJ if it became an Olympic Sport

[@cujotwentysix7519]

Another thing to bear in mind, is that MOF was also never really born out of a combat/self defence martial art (with the exception of, perhaps, Sabre) they have their roots in judicial duelling, which was always a somewhat ritualistic and codified affair.

[@joan-mariacbrooks]

I LOVE this series of sport mixing. So many of the athletes are being exposed to sports analogous to their own and probably - at least I would - be able to adapt some elements into their own sports.

[@XiseTK]

What a cool tradeoff of technique, I watched the kendoka teach the fencers first and then this one, both are great videos! Now they will have to resist the urge to apply the other discipline's techniques in their disciplines matches lol. I want to see a kendo vs fencing match now.

[@swagpotato720]

It was interesting how difficult it was for them to retreat. In their mock fights, the one to advance aggressively was much more likely to score the hit.

[@tonsofregrets258]

That’s because Kendo does not believe in retreating. There is a heavy mindset of always advancing and pressing the attack no matter what the situation. Even with Hiki-waza, the kendoka treats the action of reversing as an aggressive act against the opponent. The “retreat” in that case fueled by the momentum of the hit that was launched, rather than just an act to avoid being hit.

[@Nubesitas001]

Fencing is so freaking awesome... the same with kendo. Those arts I'd loved to learn some day

[@adjd1576]

Man, kendo makes them very good students...I've seen so much worse in my first few years teaching.

[@alienworm1999]

using epee for this is kind of weird, we had a kendoka show up to our collegiate club and pick up sabre REALLY easily

[@plaidpvcpipe3792]

I think that's the point. So it'll be harder.

[@swbxv]

As a saber fencer who also took kendo lessons fore a few years I was really hoping they would have at least one saber fencer for this video. The part about parrying would be a lot different.

[@aussiechris5904]

@@plaidpvcpipe3792 The "point?" tell me that wasn't intentional :)

[@hearingninja]

Probably because the epee rules are much simpler to understand. If they chose sabre then they would need to explain right of way/priority which can go over your head pretty easily

[@erikcollatz6153]

Really love This series! Would love to See kendokas try out HEMA (Historical European Martial arts) would love to See how they would handle the freedoms in that sport with grappling allowed and everything

[@ANZUICHiK0RiNGO]

Rhythmic gymnast feat. / vs. Taekwondo or Capoeira? 😃 Pls 🙏🏻🤗

[@sarc102]

Love this series!

[@gamespotlive3673]

It’s kinda cool how smart they are too. Like when rhe Olympian was talking about how in Kendo strikes are wider and you can carry the momentum and that they figures that out

[@semibreve]

I'm so glad they did this vid after seeing the fencers trying kendo

[@ZipperZsquared]

I think it seemed like the kendokas had a better time picking up fencing because kendo is more technique heavy compared to western fencing. In my experience, Western fencing's difficulties comes when you're more intermediate and working on the more subtle things like distance, strategy and timing which the advanced kendokas are familiar with. I'm glad they picked epee and not sabre. If they went with sabre, the kendokas would have almost no issues.

[@elfireii328]

Logically, I think it makes sense that so many contact sports are so similar to each other. Other than the weaponry, we all have the universal equipment that is the human body.

[@TweEkc]

Alyson so aggressive out there! What a fun watch

[@raifthemad]

Would be really interesting to see, how each fighting style would change, if they didn't have protective gear on. I do propose, that the self preservation instinct would make pretty much everyone much more protective and less willing to do risky attacks that expose them to counters.

[@sternchenanna222]

That's a great video, thanks!

[@danidsds]

The fencing swords thingies are so bendy:)

[@daizomh6590]

Its amazing the similarity with karate shotokan kumite. Specially with Jodan kizami Tsuki attack and the kokutsu dachi stance

[@EtamirTheDemiDeer]

_I’ve been waiting_

[@joshuaspangenberg7465]

Lol, this reminds me of whenever I fence Sabreists using epee, that stomping never goes away.

[@rjevskyfencing777]

I think you guys should of done it slightly different. You should of gave them epee and told them basic scoring rules first, and let them try it it with Kendo skills they already have. And only then introduce them to posture, movement, parries, etc, and let them try it again. This would of been more interesting.

[@stonedalldayjedi533]

Nathan belongs in a thriller! He has such an interesting face

[@NeiCHAMA]

Interesting… is that a good or bad thing?! Hahah

[@stonedalldayjedi533]

@@NeiCHAMA omg Nathan!!!:D I'm sorry I worded that weird, I just love your eyes and hair; they're so unique. I don't know if you're wearing contacts but it looks great on you and it adds this captivating look that you'd see in a mysterious thriller character! I hope I'm explaining myself well lol

[@NeiCHAMA]

@@stonedalldayjedi533 Aww, Thank you!! ^^ They are contacts though. Hahah

[@michenry8]

Katsushi kinda… hot

[@Moodymongul]

they are both great sports. With different focuses. Kendo, is focused on the Cut. Fencing, is focused on the Thrust :)

[@allaris_the_one]

In Hungary, we sometimes tend to call kendo "Japanese fencing".

[@ketrakrelek2347]

interesting they taught binding parry 4/quarte whereas I got taught that as a variation on standard quarte. but I guess if you are starting with epee not foil going for the bind immediately makes sense

[@cujotwentysix7519]

That's how I was taught as well, when starting with foil

[@chloelewis6638]

roller derby vs artistic roller skating would be so good !!!

[@RvnKnight]

Truthfully, you should have had the Kendokas doing Sabre instead of Epee. There would have less of a learning curve and would have been much more natural for them.

[@loupgarou95]

Yeah it would have been much easier for them.

[@whidoineedthis]

It wouldn't be a challenge then... What's the point

[@JaspasOnline]

I can't believe the editor slow motioned 4:38 👏👏👏👏

[@blackbird163]

Very interesting! Lovely to watch

[@clarkmarshall4893]

Fun 😁 watching both videos.

[@silentsnooper3307]

It's basically... "We stepped into your world... now step into ours." :)

[@lilchinesekidchen]

just a note, speaking as a former fencer: fencing and kendoka have very different contexts for their fighting. fencing is a derivative of a dueling martial arts that originated in the upper classes and meant for unarmored 1 v 1 combat, and it’s swords are purpose built for this context kendo is a derivative of a war oriented martial art meant to train for armored battle field fighting, and japanese swords are mainly built for battlefield utility, while you can duel with Japanese swords, and there is a dueling culture, in the japanese context, this dueling context was built to accommodate for the sword’s battlefield intent, instead of the sword being built to duel like with fencing in a unarmored one on one duel, fencing will generally win, but in an armored battle with multiple actors on the field, kendo has the advantage

[@r6guy]

well it depends on what you mean by "win". they generally stopped at first blood in those one on one duels while the goal of a kenshi would be generally to kill their opponent. most wounds caused by smallswords would not be life threatening while most wounds caused by a katana would be deadly.

[@lilchinesekidchen]

@@r6guy well i mean, i disagree. european dueling was often to the death as well, unless one party yielded and the other accepted. which is same as with most dueling cultures. my main point is that European dueling forms (primarily epee) emphasize incapacitating your opponent before finishing them. epee targets wrists and fingers to disarm and cripple the opponent. likewise it’s primarily a thrusting blade which gives a slight distance advantage (you only have to hit with the tip). finally an epee rapier is a one handed blade, which generally makes it more dexterous than two handed blades. in an unarmored context, it really does not take a lot of force to incapacitate your opponent with bladed weapons, you only need 1 pound of force to pierce flesh. in an unarmored duel, all you really need to focus on is keeping distance and crippling your opponent’s hands. and epee trains specifically for this context. but the instant you add armor (even just a gauntlet), or additional opponents, all of fencing’s dueling advantage goes out the window. crippling your opponent is a less viable strategy because of armored protection, and fencers have no idea how to handle more than one opponent. this is where armored marital arts like kendo or medieval HEMA have an advantage because they train for a multitude of battlefield conditions

[@lilchinesekidchen]

@@r6guy TLDR fencing is like driving a F1 race car where as kendo is like driving a top-of-the-line all terrain utility truck. when put on a race track, F1 car will outpace a truck. but taken outside of those ideal conditions, and the F1 car is useless compared to the truck. the truck can do everything decently, and the race car can only do one thing really well. I’d personally rather have a truck than a race car.

[@notofuspeed]

The conclusion I have drawn is that it would usually always equal a double loss. The fencer would strike first with a potentially lethal blow but it would not stop the kendoka instantly and they would continue following through with their attack that began before being ranthrough and also land on the fencer which would cause considerable damage almost guaranteed to be fatal.

[@lilchinesekidchen]

@@notofuspeed if the fencer is going for killing blows out the gate, but epee (the primary dueling form) trains fencers to incapacitate and cripple the hand before finishing the opponent off. in an unarmored context, they would have the advantage if they just keep proper distance. but you know, the instant there’s even a bit of protection (like even just a gauntlet) the epeeist’s advantage is lost

[@angbandart]

Love this and the swap video

[@jackshort2983]

I wish they had gone over all of the fencing weapons

[@nakynie463]

It’s always so interesting!

[@Robin_Hood381]

Honestly, this looks super fun. This would make an excellent party game where there is alcohol involved given that appropriate safety precautions are taken.

[@Rose-yt5hi]

Gotta make sure to have those masks though so no one loses an eye. 😂

[@Wanderinwonder427]

Sword fighters seem like really nice people ❤

[@nurlindafsihotang49]

Now fencing is "the sport" version of "one" european sword duelling or martial arts But the real deal should be interesting exchange between west and east style.

[@lilchinesekidchen]

they should have had the kendo practitioners try saber. that blade probably has more similarities with kendo than epee

[@Uns46]

One is about the cut, one is about the thrust

[@C2C.]

Towards the end, Allyson looks like she's ready for sabre fencing!

[@charleouel9012]

Interesting for sure I like the tiny difference still make a. bit impact on how to aproche the fight. It been like 10 years since I played fencing but usually the offence and the def kinda go bot since in 1 sparing where each player try to hit but whene they miss they reatreat I think it was interesting to see that they where more offensive overall and that the retreat wasn't as effective for them. I would guess it mainly the difference betting the 2 type of combat where one you can block, or retreat vs the other one seem to have less retreat at less (I don't know for block tho)

[@jasonbeasy6007]

I feel like if they had tried saber than their training would have been far smoother as it may I have been more familiar.

[@komo2542]

Why aren't they doing sabre?

[@flatfacepuggo1779]

What is Onga? Is it like "En Garde"? Genuine question I never heard that term

[@Robdc89]

I think kendokas would adjust a bit more to sabre than épée, same target area and you can slash.

[@kellsliving3220]

seem like a great hobby

[@teachersama]

Baseball Vs Softball PLEASE!

[@scottbauer5674]

Would love to see sabre translated by kendokas.

[@samsignorelli]

Looks like it was shot at the last location for Beverly Hills Fencing Club (they haven't been there for around a year, but have a new facility opening in 2024). I stopped teaching the toe-lift for an advance years ago....that's NOT how a real step is made...the KNEE leads, Watch an actual bout...no one lifts the toe first, bit even for a lunge.

[@arwinkappl8980]

One of these kendo dudes givin me Luke Skywalker vibes lmao

[@Tallzom]

I wonder if fencers go back in time and have to do a real duel I wonder how good they will do

[@Haplo-san]

Why they are connected to wires?

[@PBurns-ng3gw]

Those are power cords. While most modern fencers are battery-operated, the more traditional practitioners still insist on being powered through a wall outlet.

[@TheSelfeDestruct]

So the real question is: If you give fencers and Kendokas real versions of their weapons and armor and drop them back in history into the actual Roman Colosseum, how long would they survive against gladiators?

[@tonsofregrets258]

Realistic answer to this is to have a kendoka and a fencer enter a HEMA gym with their preferred weapons and watch what happens.

[@Rose-yt5hi]

Answer depends on how many lions and tigers are on the field.

[@Aquilenne]

​@@tonsofregrets258 You're probably going to need to find someone with less experience for that on the fencing side though. There aren't a lot of people who have been doing HEMA for 15+ years, and I don't know if there's anyone with Cody's level of experience.

[@Sorcerouss]

now do hema vs sca vs armored combat vs boffer larp

[@leeharveyoswald5614]

same old trick Juliio Castello pulled in Havana, circa 1959

[@purple.velvet]

Very fun video

[@Lucdaluc]

zimo is movie-character material imo

[@FluksWorkouts]

Lets go

[@loveandforward]

Over time, you'll destroy your back knee lunging as that instructor does. Trust me. I have.

[@Red4350]

I feel like the Fencers were more perceptive of the little faults of the Kens. I think Kendo movement is super specific and they knew that the fencers were not gonna get it perfect on their first practice, so they were fine with letting more things go while the fencers werent too worried about being vocal when something was wrong...also maybe thats because Kendo was the first to teach???...So Fencers seen what they were doing wrong while learning and knew what to be vocal about when they were the ones to teach? I feel like since Kendo is a mix between lifestyle and sport and based on tradition they all do everything more so by the book, and since everyone is doing the same thing the focus on doing things a certain way is higher that maybe they didnt want to be too strict on the first practice. Im sure that Fencing is also a lifestyle but its more inclined to the sport aspect, but fencing seems like they have more flexibility with how you can do things.

[@Adsman6000]

im a epee and im a french grip cool

[@IAmPuggle]

Just wondering when the wedding date is gonna be set for me and Zimo XD

[@tempestive1]

Please show us drummers on guitars trying to keep up with Jimmy Page next

[@MECHANISMUS]

It would be more exciting if they got no preparation except for rules.

[@michaelgrove1015]

Epee for life

[@someonesomwhere378]

dude they named the first part the "Onga" position and not en garde wtf does onga mean in any form of fencing

[@alphonsofrett2757]

Lightsabers? Do both sides can test there skills

[@stevenmuller7789]

So they don't fence the fencers?? Were they scared?

[@christianjustin20]

Im certain with my vast knowledge of anime and video games I could defeat a professional fencer with no training.

[@TheBetterBleedingBladesYouTube]

😆

[@Grace_Reads]

Back when Caltech had a fencing team.

[@pwnwin]

CAMERAMAN LET ME SEE THE TOUCH lmao

[@monkeyishi]

take them both to a long sword hema class then a rapier hema class.

[@Braindazzled]

Why Epee? Saber would have been a pit more fair to the Kendokas.

[@randomdude4505]

Saber has right-of-way rules, which likely would have made it more complicated to teach or film.

[@xenopere7807]

sabre i feel like would be a better comparison

[@ClericChris]

How many tinnitus cases can be attributed to screaming girl intros while wearing headphones?

[@thegrasshairboi]

do sabre instead of epee