KENJUTSU vs KENJUTSU

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@weaponism
@weaponism 2 жыл бұрын
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@blademan_b
@blademan_b 2 жыл бұрын
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@heirihunziker
@heirihunziker 2 жыл бұрын
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@paul-becker
@paul-becker 2 жыл бұрын
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@ShadQh
@ShadQh Жыл бұрын
Where do you get the scabbard from? Does it come with it?
@wastelander3116
@wastelander3116 Жыл бұрын
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@Kyrian_W
@Kyrian_W 2 жыл бұрын
This was great, especially since it feels like there's not a lot of kenjutsu sparring videos to watch, rather there's more HEMA and kendo sparring videos.
@jestfullgremblim8002
@jestfullgremblim8002 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed, Kenjutsu in not popular anymore. Just like Japanese Jujutsu isn't either. They got replaced by Kendo and Judo respectively. It's a shame, even tho both styles hardly spar (that's also why it's hard to find videos on it) both of them have more stuff that their Budo versions (Jujutsu actually has unarmed and armed strikes, and also some takedowns that are not done in Judo like the Scissors takedown. Kenjutsu in general has more stances and strikes, also they practice more kinds of blocks/parries and they strike with the intend to go through armor, something that Kendo does not, in Kendo just a slightly strong flick of your sword counts as a point, if your opponent has armor, that kind of strike will not do a lot)
@18ps3anos
@18ps3anos 2 жыл бұрын
@@jestfullgremblim8002 Good points, but I don't think the "if your opponent has armor" really matters. None of the european swordmanship arts we usually practice in HEMA do anything to armor either. We have half-swording and murder strikes depicted in some material, but that's not representative of the rest of the systems, as they are mostly focused on unarmoured combat. A sword is weak against plate armor. The real problem with Kendo flicks is not that they aren't strong, because they actually are! Kendoka learn to generate a lot of force. The problem is that they will be a lot slower and a lot harder to execute with anything heavier than a shinai, specially from middle guards. And the problem with Kendo overall, regarding combat strategy, is the same as sport fencing. Its mostly focused on getting a valid point first, regardless of consequences. Does not matter if you get afterblown, as long as your ki-ken-tai is correct. The focus on defense is restricted to the moment before you can hit the first valid blow. Doesn't matter if you can execute your blow safely. HEMA and "Kenjutsu" in general perceives this differently, and with a lot more options to execute it, even though sometimes gets thrown out of the water in competitions.
@AljosaPLampe
@AljosaPLampe 2 жыл бұрын
@@jestfullgremblim8002 judo has a scissor takedown, but it is illegal to use in comps, cuz u can easily break someone’s knee with it
@outboundflight4455
@outboundflight4455 2 жыл бұрын
we definitely need more Kenjutsu and Iaijutsu koryu sparring videos.
@jestfullgremblim8002
@jestfullgremblim8002 2 жыл бұрын
@@AljosaPLampe we hardly train it for that reason, sometimes we drill it but it's just sometimes. in Japanese Jujutsu, they really want you to master it haha. It'a weird how it is banned on Judo for being dangerous, yet it is still used in other martial arts like Hapkido...
@CitronCoffee
@CitronCoffee 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a Japanese who practice both Japanese koryu kenjutsu and Chinese martial arts. Your fights are very impressive! I can see you are trying to use some practical techniques. Not just power and speed, but technique. I’ll wait for your next videos.
@old-man-mariner
@old-man-mariner 4 ай бұрын
Wow! That's basically the "curriculum" I wish I went for. I want to be good at: Blade Fighting: Kenjutsu, Kendo, Iaido, HEMA and Kali. Hand Fighting: Aikido, Wing Chun, Tai Chi and that one that starts with the letter B and is hard to spell. Can you advise me on following this path? Any types from someone who is more advanced?
@datyeen
@datyeen 2 жыл бұрын
As a student of German Longsword, i saw a lot of really great exchanges from both fighters. They both have great distance measuring too! This was awesome to watch!
@18ps3anos
@18ps3anos 2 жыл бұрын
I trully enjoyed this one! A lot more than the kenjutsu vs kendo one. Combat philosophies are aligned this time around. You can frequently see retreating attacks, and I didn't see a single "suicide" lunge to get the ippon. Many timed strikes to the opponent's wrist, in the middle of an action. The weight of the weapon requires a different kind of movement aswell, compared to the shinai. Great work!
@larrylawnchair5570
@larrylawnchair5570 Жыл бұрын
I think Longsword students as us can learn a much from them ;) Unfortunaly kenjutsu in its original form istn't teached in germany.
@Ianmar1
@Ianmar1 Жыл бұрын
@@larrylawnchair5570 What is the original form of kenjutsu? There are some koryu kenjutsu in Germany. I am aware of HIR, HNIR, MJER, TSKSR, KSR, and TSYR.
@arfinsyah
@arfinsyah Жыл бұрын
​@@Ianmar1what the mean?
@Ianmar1
@Ianmar1 Жыл бұрын
@@arfinsyah HIR = Hokushin itto ryu HNIR = Hyoho niten ichi ryu MJER = Muso jikiden eishin ryu TSKSR = Tenshin shoden katori shinto ryu KSR = Kashima shinto ryu TSYR = Takamura-ha shindo yoshin ryu
@zachariahtaylor7811
@zachariahtaylor7811 2 жыл бұрын
This was Amazing!!!! I could watch 100’s more of these videos if they were just kenjutsu vs kenjutsu. Not enough people do this. Looking forward to more
@heresjonny666
@heresjonny666 2 жыл бұрын
Nice. It's always good to see Kendo practitioners using bokken, the heavier weapon slowing the movements down and letting a more varied art to manifest. I've got to applaud the grit of these two. Getting hit full pelt by a bokken is pretty much like getting hit by a club, and they are only wearing kendo level protection! A lot of bruises in the next few days for them I expect.
@ninjafruitchilled
@ninjafruitchilled 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah this was very cool to see, kendo really loses something with the light shinai.
@Ianmar1
@Ianmar1 2 жыл бұрын
Minimum regulation weight for a mens shinai is 510g. Bokken typically weigh between 500g and 600g. I would not be surprised if these polyurethane bokken are lighter still.
@ninjafruitchilled
@ninjafruitchilled 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ianmar1 Really? I did kendo for a few years long ago, and I remember my bokken being noticeably heavier than shinai. And certainly both of them being much lighter than a katana.
@Ianmar1
@Ianmar1 2 жыл бұрын
@@ninjafruitchilled The shinai that you used may have had the center of mass closer to the tsuka to emphasize speed over strength (center control) giving the impression that it was light, whereas your bokken was necessarily more evenly distributed.
@-nomi.-
@-nomi.- 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ianmar1 Can't say much as just a spectator, but as far as I understand it from the physics perspective, having mass being distributed further up means more mass as the point of contact, which delivers more energy to the recipient. Same principle as a hammer, though to a lesser degree of course.
@anotakudetective1546
@anotakudetective1546 2 жыл бұрын
5:07 we might as well start calling him Kenshin Himura because that seems to be his best attack
@jamofwar0910
@jamofwar0910 Жыл бұрын
My exact thought haha.
@smol_hornet613
@smol_hornet613 10 ай бұрын
Kenjutsu: *re-sheathes katana* Kendo: why do i hear boss music
@Switchfork
@Switchfork 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my god so cool! The switch steps from Blue to create angles were really effective, fantastic to watch.
@theimmitigableone8056
@theimmitigableone8056 2 жыл бұрын
You can see why Katanas are dueling weapons, really enjoyable to watch. A beauty you won't see in actual warfare. A spear or halberd is too effective to be as much of a spectacle.
@jestfullgremblim8002
@jestfullgremblim8002 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they were just for dueling or to try and survive if you lost your other weapons (and fell of your horse if you were on one).
@eagle162
@eagle162 2 жыл бұрын
They were used a lot in warfare and in some cases a sword would have been the preferred weapon, Japanese swords were even imported across Asia for combat use. Not just for duels.
@theimmitigableone8056
@theimmitigableone8056 2 жыл бұрын
@@jestfullgremblim8002 you're thinking of Tachi which are longer heavier swords for use against cavalry. Katana is primarily a sidearm or dueling weapon. Spears and other polearms have always dominated the battlefield.
@eagle162
@eagle162 2 жыл бұрын
@@theimmitigableone8056 that's not really true,also Tachi being heavier and longer is a modern classification. katanas could be longer prior to the edo period Where laws were made regarding blade length.
@jestfullgremblim8002
@jestfullgremblim8002 2 жыл бұрын
@@eagle162 true
@presentlee9403
@presentlee9403 2 жыл бұрын
Also this channel's idea often go crazy, this might be the most realistic katana fight I've ever seen.
@MidwestArtMan
@MidwestArtMan 2 жыл бұрын
This might be my favorite video you guys have done. The back and forth exchanges and all of the deflections are so cool.
@darkstormvoyager9281
@darkstormvoyager9281 2 жыл бұрын
Please do more like this! That takedown at 2:40 was amazing
@IIISWILIII
@IIISWILIII 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was pretty sick. Had to re-watch a couple of times to convince myself it wasn't premeditated
@patrickfry1000
@patrickfry1000 6 ай бұрын
Much closer to Tennen Rishin Ryu, very effective against people wearing armor. If I am remembering my terminology correctly, they entered Tsuka Zeriai then the one in the blue attempted a takedown guy in black attempted to reverse it, but wasn’t fast enough.
@KamiSeiTo
@KamiSeiTo 2 жыл бұрын
Probably your best video! (Or at least, my favourite.) Thank you for the English, and the sound effects add a lot! That's great! Thank you.
@nicholasthurmond4006
@nicholasthurmond4006 2 жыл бұрын
You guys should make a movie with these two, they're so fun to watch!
@xtensionxward3659
@xtensionxward3659 5 ай бұрын
this is why real Samurai duels were very short you miss your chance and you're dead
@weaponman3872
@weaponman3872 2 жыл бұрын
The level of lethality here is insane , I watch a lot of HEMA and you guys would definitely do very will in a competition , I would love to see katana fighting like this catch on more great job !!
@user-yn4po3ve6n
@user-yn4po3ve6n 2 жыл бұрын
This was super awesome, I love the fluidity from both practitioners. Also, you guys must have arms of steel to take kote strikes with bokken!!
@andrebaxter4023
@andrebaxter4023 8 ай бұрын
I like how the music changed when one of the warriors chose to try out an iaijutsu. Nice editing. 👍🏼👍🏼
@kaichi
@kaichi 2 жыл бұрын
This is definitely my favorite video! I loved watching these two spar.
@Bluebuthappy182
@Bluebuthappy182 2 жыл бұрын
Some lovely exchanges between these two well done to both.
@markjamesbustamante4949
@markjamesbustamante4949 2 жыл бұрын
As always. The movement is so fluid and its just a matter of give and take with emphasis on an external factor to kill/maim. Always great
@sksmsEKdn
@sksmsEKdn 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shite those grappling moves are SWEET!
@peregarrett
@peregarrett 2 жыл бұрын
Oh! That's just incredible! Also, first minute before realizing hit sounds are put over video: "WHAT? they fight with real steel swords, with stabing allowed? OMG Crazy dudes..." And spinning strike at 5:50 - rare moment when it feels appliable, had to rawatch at slowest speed
@NinjaFox-pe3dv
@NinjaFox-pe3dv Ай бұрын
The best martial arts channel on KZbin.
@Freelocybin
@Freelocybin Жыл бұрын
finally some pactical katana fencing and not flashy dance routines.
@leokim1458
@leokim1458 2 жыл бұрын
2:41 Fatality
@arfinsyah
@arfinsyah Жыл бұрын
Great sparring, kenjutsu vs Kendo. Kenjutsu vs Kenjutsu.
@dlugikudlaty3589
@dlugikudlaty3589 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing piece of art 🤩
@corruptangel6793
@corruptangel6793 2 жыл бұрын
3 Dan: "my powers of doubled since last time, friend." 1 Dan: "Good for you. Twice the pride, double the fall." *3 Dan gets hit first* Actually caught me by surprise, I expected the 3dan to dominate but they seemed pretty even, especially in the beginning. By my count, the 3Dan got 13 hits and the 1Dan got 8 hits
@captare
@captare 2 жыл бұрын
The thing with Dan in black belts, that's it in Aikido and Judo at least, is that higher Dans doesn't mean better martial skills, it's more contributions and time of service in the martial art in question. To other factors such as, in training you train but also teach. A practitioner may focus more on the Craft than on Martiality as well. But it is even natural to associate higher Dans with better combat skills.
@GatAnarquista
@GatAnarquista 2 жыл бұрын
@@captare In kendo you cant go up a dan without going through a strict exam so it does mean that a higher dan is always better than a lower dan. I assume it's the same for kenjutsu.
@18ps3anos
@18ps3anos 2 жыл бұрын
@@GatAnarquista Which doesn't mean a higher dan is always more athletic than a lower dan. Westerners tend to put a lot more emphasis on Dan ranks as if it fully represented a precise line of the practicioner's skill. It doesn't. It's not a leaderboard.
@GatAnarquista
@GatAnarquista 2 жыл бұрын
@@18ps3anos I mean the exam consists of katas and combat. If you're not good enough at one of those things you fail, so in order to be a certain Dan you have to have the required skill. A 1st Dan couldn't pass a 3rd Dan exam, so the 3rd Dan is better.
@18ps3anos
@18ps3anos 2 жыл бұрын
@@GatAnarquista better is relative. You are saying that 8th Dans are better than national team athletes in their prime? It's not that linear, because in Kendo you are evaluated in more things than combat effectiveness. But then again, this was a kenjutsu exhibition. Kendo is not particularly known to be combat accurate.
@dereklong801
@dereklong801 Жыл бұрын
Totally fell down the Kenjutsu rabbit hole on your channel. Thanks for such great content!
@tristanmullin1473
@tristanmullin1473 10 ай бұрын
Awesome to watch, it would be nice if these kind of gyms were located in more places
@marzbitenhaussen
@marzbitenhaussen Жыл бұрын
i like this better than kendo, as kendo seems to me a more ceremonial and competition sport with many rules, this seems closer to a real sword fight which is very cool
@rockkandyplay5692
@rockkandyplay5692 Жыл бұрын
It's so hard to find Kenjutsu videos so this was a treat! Very inspiring, thank you
@juilescieg
@juilescieg Жыл бұрын
This was very fun to watch. As an Iaidoka, I learned a lot from this video. Both very skilled.
@bockskarr6626
@bockskarr6626 9 ай бұрын
Yo this was badass!!! I wish there was dojo near me. There might be 1. I gotta call and see what's up with katana training. Keep up the great work 💪🏼👍🏼
@badfoody
@badfoody 2 жыл бұрын
What i wanna see is traditional Kenjutsu. Like the really old styles from the Samurai days Vs Kendo the sport
@eastoforion
@eastoforion 2 жыл бұрын
Are these closer to the weight of an actual sword? It was fun to see a little slower fight than with shinai :)
@18ps3anos
@18ps3anos 2 жыл бұрын
They said it was close to a bokuto's weight. So not quite like a uchigatana, but still much more interesting than with a shinai.
@rinkisaragi
@rinkisaragi 2 жыл бұрын
Bokuto would be slightly closer to the weight of a katana than a shinai would, but still not close enough, and it depends on the density of the wood as well. I bet they’re only using lower quality “throwaway” bokuto here for combat, weight would probably be in the 500+g range. An actual katana is closer to 1kg thereabouts.
@18ps3anos
@18ps3anos 2 жыл бұрын
@S the "heavy feel" has more to do with where the point of balance lies. A 800g arming sword with a point of balance of 10cm from the guard will feel clunkier and heavier than a 900g sidesword with a point of balance of 8cm from the start of the ricasso - and it's usually a longer sword. (Both 1 handed swords)
@richardfitswell898
@richardfitswell898 2 жыл бұрын
Editing was top notch!! And the whole video was incredibly entertaining, thank you :)
@MarcosMakosu
@MarcosMakosu 2 жыл бұрын
cool video, in Brazil there is the niten institute, based on Miyamoto musashi's techniques, they mix kenjutsu and kendo efficiently
@WilliamEckles123
@WilliamEckles123 4 ай бұрын
I absolutely love watching this. I just wish the sword didn't get lost in the background at times so I could watch it more closely.
@WinnipegKnightlyArts
@WinnipegKnightlyArts 2 жыл бұрын
This is a really excellent display of skill, great job to both fencers. I really like seeing how the interactions worked with the steel blades compared to shinai. What kind of training swords did you use here?
@weaponism
@weaponism 2 жыл бұрын
This is a polyurethane katana left as a fixed comment.🤺
@WinnipegKnightlyArts
@WinnipegKnightlyArts 2 жыл бұрын
@@weaponism ah, interesting, I usually find polycarbonate swords to be very slippery compared to steel ones. I'm very interested to see a dull training version of a katana so that I can train with kendoka/kenjutsu practitioners with a Feder. I think with a mesh mask it should work pretty well.
@sepg5084
@sepg5084 2 жыл бұрын
@@WinnipegKnightlyArts if they used dull steel blades in this match, their forearms would be filled with blunt force injuries by the end of the match due to the number of forearm cuts that happened.
@WinnipegKnightlyArts
@WinnipegKnightlyArts 2 жыл бұрын
@@sepg5084 the gauntlets protect the forearm. Getting hit by a shinai repeatedly in the forearm isn't that much different
@LohChunSheng
@LohChunSheng 2 жыл бұрын
Please do more of kenjutsu sparring videos! This video is incredible! Thank you!
@spearheadrifleman
@spearheadrifleman 2 жыл бұрын
This is the sickest sword sparing I’ve seen. Damn! Such clean movements!
@Ianmar1
@Ianmar1 2 жыл бұрын
It's the commitment to the attack 😁. JSA styles typically don't teach a defensive mindset for this reason.
@Ianmar1
@Ianmar1 5 ай бұрын
@LawyerSean These are both kendo guys (see 0:18). Blademan B had a 3rd dan in kendo and self studies tameshigiri, whereas Hogu Yeom had a 1st dan qnd otherwise no kenjutsu training; they have since each passed 4th dan and 2nd dan respectively. Edit: wrong timestamp
@olympicmovies9441
@olympicmovies9441 10 ай бұрын
Just great. Can't stop watching. I respect all the mordern sports, but i missed the good old sword combat. Please more! ❤
@nytrodralyg1860
@nytrodralyg1860 2 жыл бұрын
THAT WAS INCREDIBLE
@robbabcock_
@robbabcock_ 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! One of the best yet! ⚔
@mdyzward8553
@mdyzward8553 2 жыл бұрын
EPIC!!!!!! So cool! More more more please! Love when you guys mix up weapons and fighting styles too, maybe do a weapon art vs bjj or wrestling or something
@GallowglassAxe
@GallowglassAxe 2 жыл бұрын
That was great to watch. I'm curious, what style of Kenjutsu you were doing?
@ayyonmichaels9731
@ayyonmichaels9731 3 күн бұрын
That first exchange was nice.
@ioannisiordanoglou3373
@ioannisiordanoglou3373 Жыл бұрын
In my oppinion this is what japanese swordsmanship should be like! It's not like I can't understand the beauty of kendo but the variety of techniks we see in kenjutsu is just so beautiful. There is variation of technic, variation of targets,variation of guards and everything in between. Like HEMA but with japanese swords. If this was an actual thing I would love to try it out.
@moxygenpathogen7678
@moxygenpathogen7678 2 жыл бұрын
This channel is God-Tier
@femiolowofoyeku5852
@femiolowofoyeku5852 2 жыл бұрын
This shows you how quick sword fights would be in real life.
@astigako123
@astigako123 2 жыл бұрын
FINALLY ACTUAL KATANA SPARRING
@yokoh691
@yokoh691 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite one! More please
@-RONNIE
@-RONNIE 2 жыл бұрын
A really good training session 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@outboundflight4455
@outboundflight4455 2 жыл бұрын
As a fellow Iaijutsu Koryu and Kendo practitioner I'm genuinely curious what style of Kenjutsu is the 3rd Dan. looks like the same one who did Tenshin Shoden Katori Shinto Ryu in the Kendo vs. Kenjutsu video? what lineage does he do? Sugino? can't be Shinbukan?
@penttikoivuniemi2146
@penttikoivuniemi2146 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure it's the same guy. Might actually both be the same guys but the kendo dude is playing more in a kenjutsu-looking style.
@Veepee92
@Veepee92 2 жыл бұрын
My gut feeling tells me it's the same TSKRS guy too. It must be Sugino line as well; I don't think he would be participating in a video if he'd actually done keppan.
@outboundflight4455
@outboundflight4455 2 жыл бұрын
@@Veepee92 right I would figure so?
@Veepee92
@Veepee92 2 жыл бұрын
@@outboundflight4455 He has his own KZbin channel; maybe see if he answers the question there?
@biterlames3220
@biterlames3220 2 жыл бұрын
sugawara ha
@1oddentity
@1oddentity 29 күн бұрын
Really cool video, I'm taking kenjutsu classes and I really wish some of these weren't in slow motion so I can learn from watching and slow the video down on my own if I need to
@soap1523
@soap1523 Жыл бұрын
5:45 amazing
@thrillhouse4151
@thrillhouse4151 2 жыл бұрын
Looks really cool, I love the stance changes and back and forth’s.
@Heyrock
@Heyrock 2 жыл бұрын
that was cool
@michaeltrimidal567
@michaeltrimidal567 2 жыл бұрын
it was amazing to watch. i wish more videos about kenjutsu next kendo vs kenjutsu
@lilcheat3
@lilcheat3 2 жыл бұрын
Wow!!! What amazing skill from both practitioners!!! Just awesome to watch!
@ms.tiadaniel8415
@ms.tiadaniel8415 4 ай бұрын
4:49 That was beautiful! 🎉
@getsideways7257
@getsideways7257 2 жыл бұрын
Unlike kendo, this actually does look like swordfighting. And not just because of the swords shapes resembling swords, but because of the fluidity of slicing movements and parrying. Kenjutsu definitely needs more coverage.
@Ianmar1
@Ianmar1 2 жыл бұрын
These are the same guys from the kendo vs kenjutsu video. One has only studied kenjutsu via kendo.
@getsideways7257
@getsideways7257 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ianmar1 I can see that one of them is not particularly good at this, but it's still much more enjoyable to watch than kendo.
@ThreadBareHope1234
@ThreadBareHope1234 2 жыл бұрын
I really like seeing skilled fighters do their thing. This explains why the fights in the original Star Wars trilogy weren't all spins and jumps, it was true to real fighting.
@alessandrolizzio6338
@alessandrolizzio6338 Жыл бұрын
There is a spinning attack in this video at 5:46
@YYorle
@YYorle 9 ай бұрын
impressive! All these stabs and thrusts with steel swords? That takes a lot of guts, experience, skill and trust.
@Ianmar1
@Ianmar1 8 ай бұрын
The swords are rubber. They added sound effects in editing.
@daniel-lee888
@daniel-lee888 2 жыл бұрын
That was well done, and a refreshing change from "tippy tap" of shinai sparring. Good control and skill by both fighters. I wonder if we will ever see blunt steel katanas used like western longsword sparring? (with correct protection of course.)
@eagle162
@eagle162 2 жыл бұрын
Blunt steel katanas for sparring already exist.
@daniel-lee888
@daniel-lee888 2 жыл бұрын
@@eagle162 Yes so I wanted to see videos of skilled Kenjutsu fighters (not a WMA guy swinging a katana) use them, but they would need different (untraditional) protection.
@Ianmar1
@Ianmar1 2 жыл бұрын
I think that the Toyama ryu guys have some bluns steel katana sparring.
@Thawra-Umma
@Thawra-Umma 2 жыл бұрын
Mon couple favori sur KZbin. Vous partagez ensemble la passion du Bushido et la communiquez avec vos excellentes vidéos. Merci ❤️
@quentinbrown9300
@quentinbrown9300 2 жыл бұрын
3:10 Ha! Sometimes I guess it's just that easy. I mean, to be fair, In-no-kamai as a stance is rather effective against Jodan, at least in my experience.
@TheMisterGuy
@TheMisterGuy 2 жыл бұрын
I just want to be there, doing that. Instead of here, in a room with a computer, seeing a video of it. But it is a good video.
@vishnudas3328
@vishnudas3328 7 ай бұрын
thoroughly enjoyed that
@sbvg1168
@sbvg1168 2 жыл бұрын
More if this !! Awesome i didnt Know about Kenjutsu just woaaaaw so fluidso beautiful and lethal! Your footwork is mesmerizing Please more Kenjutsu vs Kenjutsu ! 😍
@Porzuc_Ateizm
@Porzuc_Ateizm 2 жыл бұрын
Very good kenjutsu sparring. This is proper sword's sparring, not fencing bullsh*t like kendo.
@weaponism
@weaponism 2 жыл бұрын
I only learned kendo, but I was able to do kenjutsu sparring. In kendo, they teach the basics of kenjutsu together.
@Porzuc_Ateizm
@Porzuc_Ateizm 2 жыл бұрын
@@weaponism yup, I see the habits from kendo anyway but you do pretty well kenjutsu fight there :)
@mewtube7528
@mewtube7528 2 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful display of skill. There's tension in watching the exchanges! PLEASE PLEASE Hollywood film makers... Just hire these guys for sword fighting scenes, lol. Enough senseless spinning around and reverse grip BS!
@Kyojuro___Rengoku
@Kyojuro___Rengoku 2 жыл бұрын
Such a cool and original channel! I love it. 🔥❤️🙏🏻
@chrislaid214
@chrislaid214 3 ай бұрын
This is by far the best japanese sword sparring sequence in KZbin
@daigokil
@daigokil 2 жыл бұрын
I love this
@daneal7874
@daneal7874 4 ай бұрын
In movies, fighters fight for long time! In real life, a fight between the best in the world can start and finish in seconds!!
@TomoeMichieru
@TomoeMichieru 7 ай бұрын
Those cuts to the back of the neck look scary, even with gear
@andrewbidwell6421
@andrewbidwell6421 Жыл бұрын
This looks much more authentic to how swordsmanship in Japan was like. I do think they could be a little more aggressive with their thrusting (much like long swords in HEMA) as in a real fight that’s the fastest way to kill or cause a reaction from your opponent that you can counter.
@larrylawnchair5570
@larrylawnchair5570 Жыл бұрын
PLEASE PLEASE give us more like that. Kenjutsu in its original form is very rare to find. I want to learn more about that and adopt it in my HEMA fighting style. Espacaly the foodwork is very impressive. All those clean movements, i can't get enough of this, it looks so perfectly.
@rowanscheunemann6733
@rowanscheunemann6733 2 жыл бұрын
Man this is fantastic, I would really love to learn kenjutsu.
@johnlin3959
@johnlin3959 2 жыл бұрын
This is interesting to me that the zanshin is completely different. I get the impression it's because the rules for points are less restrictive as well. While most points are scored to kendo ippon, there are many that would not be ippon in kendo that you seem to count as hits. I would love to understand why the fighters changed their zanshin. What went through their minds. I ask because kendo zanshin of charging through the opponent always seemed very unique. No other martial art really does that.
@outboundflight4455
@outboundflight4455 2 жыл бұрын
zanshin would apply more with full commitment to after a killing strike. they're basically sparring.
@johnlin3959
@johnlin3959 2 жыл бұрын
@@outboundflight4455 I would agree with that, except their swings are far more committed than kendo cuts. You see their missed attacks practically hitting the floor. Shouldn't that mean that they need to get out of the way even more? Or am I misunderstanding what you're saying?
@outboundflight4455
@outboundflight4455 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnlin3959 my experience would say that their execution of cuts were solid and committing well. They were landing full killing blows majority of rounds. If they weren't wearing Bogu alot of those rounds one of them would have died or both would have critical wounds. As for moving or dodging the blade... in this case bokken or even a Nihonto is a couple centimeters thick. You really don't have to move that much away to dodge a fully committed Kirioshi or Men strike to the head. All it takes is like 15 degree move to the sides or corners then counter while their body is fully exposed on their side. To be honest if someone cuts and you dodge but you create alot of distance between their blade and your body that gives them the advantage to counter with another cut since space was created or even delivering a more lethal counter strike than if you only gave them 15 degrees instead of a 50 degree tenkan. Another rethink I would have suggested and it's my opinion. But it's good to overwhelm your opponents space within kamae and where your Monouchi is effective. So take their space...get in there and make them move. If you're just slapping each other hoping to land a stike it might not land and you'll be parried. Musashi was correct when he said you have to fight in a swordfight with the idea that you're already dead. My sensei once told me you have to get in there and take their space, make them move and break their defence and land the strike. The chances of you surviving a fight are very low. So minus well commit all the was knowing you WILL be cut or even die. That's the only way to survive.
@johnlin3959
@johnlin3959 2 жыл бұрын
@@outboundflight4455 Maybe my question is unclear, so let me provide some context. Before kendo, I did a lot of boffer fighting and dabbled in fencing. Despite having practiced kendo for many years now, I still find kendo zanshin to be unintuitive. My understanding of the practical aspects of zanshin is continued battle readiness even after you've landed what you think is a telling blow. In fencing and boffers, you do this through a combination of staying on guard and/or backing out to create distance. Kendo's unique method of zanshin is to charge past/through the opponent. Of course there are other ways to show zanshin in kendo, but this is the primary method. So my question is about why, despite both being kendo yudansha and sparring in a format very similar to kendo, did they never zanshin by charging through the opponent? Instead their zanshin is very similar to what I would expect out of fencers, boffer fighters, HEMA, or literally any other swordsmanship style. Maybe my question is multifold: Why does it seem like kendo is the only one that encourages zanshin by charging through? Why do these kendoka suddenly zanshin like other styles once you take away their shinai and make them keiko with bokuto? My first thought is that it's because they're cutting all the way through. It's very hard to charge through your opponent when your kensen is pointed at your opponent's feet after your attack. I hope that clarified my post.
@Ianmar1
@Ianmar1 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnlin3959 As I understand it, zanshin means a continued awareness of the opponent, and the danger that they pose. We teach beginners to charge through because it distracts the least from a commitment to the strike, and since their momentum is already forwards is the fastest way inside the opponents attacking range -> into their blind spot -> and out of their attacking range. This habit along with taiatari simulates tackeling and wresteling an opponent to the ground, however since we are doing kendo and not judo, we remain standing and go past eachother. At higher levels zanshin also means never losing line of sight on an opponent thus turning around once you pass the opponent, however we do not train this in kihon since it encourages bad habits e.g. infighting, and late hits as well as slow lazy zanshin.
@d_ruggs
@d_ruggs 2 жыл бұрын
love the way these are edited
@daigokil
@daigokil 2 жыл бұрын
Impressive
@sarahr1269
@sarahr1269 Ай бұрын
Bro in black died at least 15 times in the most brutal ways possible ☠️☠️
@sumimasen5969
@sumimasen5969 2 жыл бұрын
Nice
@Thawra-Umma
@Thawra-Umma 2 жыл бұрын
Excellente vidéo Merci. Quel belle chaîne. Un contenu très intéressant. Un sparring au katana. Magnifique ♥️
@kennethcastaneda6848
@kennethcastaneda6848 2 жыл бұрын
This is amazing.....well done.... great swordsmanship
@gomcse
@gomcse Жыл бұрын
Oh man, this was FANTASTIC
@kikij6465
@kikij6465 2 ай бұрын
good footwork!
@LaNguyenBTong
@LaNguyenBTong 2 жыл бұрын
This is so cool!!! 🤤🤤🤤
@MichaelNoMyers
@MichaelNoMyers 2 жыл бұрын
5:07 isn’t this particular style called battoujutsu?
@MichaelNoMyers
@MichaelNoMyers 2 жыл бұрын
@S oh okay, I always thought battou was specifically just attacking from a position where the sword is drawn. Thanks for informing! 😁
@AlyxGlide
@AlyxGlide 6 ай бұрын
In the immortal words of Chad.. OUCH!
@LordVex47
@LordVex47 2 жыл бұрын
Great to see kenjutsu fencing for real :D
@Ianmar1
@Ianmar1 2 жыл бұрын
Real kenjutsu fencing, at least the koryu (pre Meiji), is done with a shinai (assuming they don't want to kill eachother).
@melchisedekj
@melchisedekj Жыл бұрын
boxing foot work and head movement might make a monster in kenjutsu with proper training and implimentation.
@Ianmar1
@Ianmar1 Жыл бұрын
Footwork yes, but head movement probably not: ideally you want your entire body out of the path of the sword.
@Original-Phantom
@Original-Phantom 2 жыл бұрын
The Ninja Camera Gai was amazing
@nebachiv
@nebachiv 2 жыл бұрын
beatiful art
@trondundermuff3564
@trondundermuff3564 2 жыл бұрын
Great Channel!
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