NEW MOC 2.7 Floor 12 - E0S1 Firefly x E0S1 Seele 0 Cycle Clear | 01流萤01希儿0T虫王 | Honkai Star Rail

[@basedlegit]

Already wtf... this guy loves Seele that much...

[@JoaoLucas-vj7zp]

I wonder when Castorice comes to the game, will he like she more than Seele? 😂

[@legendarytezoka3522]

@@JoaoLucas-vj7zp i think the quantom weakness is meta and seele will loves it even more (LOL)

[@Seele_Lover]

Nah, I love much more.

[@yamete_kudasai6969]

Seele is best girl what do you expect. She needs buff😢

[@coraW]

this guy singlehandedly is making seele great again

[@Seele_Lover]

Nah, i'd win.

[@ceizhore4498]

there is no “again” she was always still good. Prydwen and content creators just spreading porpaganda that Seele got powercrept. While she was the best dps in the game since release up until Feixiao got released. She’s still one of the best dps still only behind Feixiao and Herta

[@Bos_Meong]

shes "bad" because she needs insane relic or elese you gonna see "nah, id crit" moments

[@ZealValdez]

@ceizhore4498 Yeah sure bud, needing two limited supports at e2 to stay relevant to other dps definitely means she isn't powercrept.

[@darkkforce]

@@ZealValdez there is a 1 cost seele run that matches overtuned waifu herta in her best scenario. a 1.0 dps performing the same as 3.0, go check it out.

[@bewitted1169]

You can cut like 4 cost (5 cost total) by replacing seele’s s1 with cruising of stellar sea lc, e2s1 sparkle with e0s1 sunday (e0s1 sunday>e2s1 sparkle sadly), and e1s1 robin with e1s0 (bp lc). Only people willing to do this are CN players since they are still low cost 0 cycling with her till this day which is kinda nuts

[@cdlp6793]

got any links?

[@juniorraya1023]

Doing that is playing more rng

[@KenRurouni]

E0S1 sunday will not cut it. He need to be E1 for him overtake sparkle, damage % on Seele is way too saturated and even with robin she is still missing atk value. Def shred is too valuable and seele is going to lose out even more against quantum weakness without e1 on sunday. Either e1s1 robin or e2s0 robin as of now in bilibili so no gold cut here. I would say for floor 12, min 7 gold for the run.

[@bewitted1169]

@@KenRurounisomeone on ps did it with relatable relics. They used e0s0 seele, e0s1 sunday, e1s1 robin, and pela which is 6 cost. However they did mention that robins s1 is replaceable with bp lc which goes down to 5 cost so yea its def possible.

[@KenRurouni]

just gonna wait for the live server run then. As of now the lowest is 8, maybe a few days later can be lower.

[@zxcentsensei.sunder]

Nice seele run, had mine but Sunday

[@KenRurouni]

Nice 👍

[@grimmsnotes1546]

Always love your Seele run >

[@waqfulwaqti3113]

Firefly will never die🔥

[@roxasreturns2183]

The game really is Harmony Support Rail.

[@proles8]

thank you for doing what I could not lol

[@TwoToo_]

you also have 3 sparkes with lightcone and 163 speed without speed set, 2 robins with lightcone, and a 175 speed tingyun with S3 DDD?

[@proles8]

@TwoToo_ no, hence why I could not lol

[@hashgulso_osu]

Finally after a long time, my seele 4 cycle (almost 3 but the boss was like 4%) this moc, after a long period of 6+ cycles

[@reybarracuda2514]

Very cool run my guy

[@JohnnyDrew-o7o]

Nice one. I Did make the same thing as your on my channel an hour ago but with some slight different. I'm nothing so blessed with luck or wealth to have E1 or E2 Supports, so my team won't be able to 0 cycle under any circumstance, but still get 3 stars at the minimum. Overall, great gameplay.

[@KenRurouni]

Good job on getting the full clear~

[@DrowsyNight]

I'm trying to convince myself pulling a 1.0 dps is a good idea and you have given me enough evidence to lie to myself with I appreciate it

[@sergiosegura2024]

@@DrowsyNight you don't need to lie though, there is nothing wrong with pulling the characters you want, endgame currency ain't s*** anyway... True currency is gained through history patches and events anyway. Be like me, disregard the cycle fear mongering.

[@DrowsyNight]

@sergiosegura2024 oh I'm already clearing everything it's moreso just bad idea

[@sergiosegura2024]

@@DrowsyNight it's not a bad idea... Bro we are litterally here for those damn collectable moving pixels, what is left if you take that out?? Playing the game for meta is like going to the movies just to see the ones top rated on imdb... You are taking the fun out by too much optimization.

[@Piscore]

This guys still keep his Seele in prime status hahaha

[@conscript6955]

Yoo ken rurouni, big fan of your play style. I wanted to asked you about my pulling options. I have a guaranteed and am at 71 pity, should i get fugue or e2 ff (already have e1). Or save for The Herta? I am a monthly spender.

[@NotNXTr]

If u also use other break dps like Rappa or Boothill then Fugue has more value. As for Herta, it depends on if u are struggling with pure fiction or not.

[@KenRurouni]

Really depend on what's your plan moving forward. If you still want to use Firefly for another 3 months, E2 Firefly instead of Fugue E0. The increment on E0 Fugue is lesser than what E2 Firefly has to offer, solve one side of Apocalyptic Shadow. If you decided to stop playing Superbreak, it's time to invest on 3.x characters, look for more information on what the upcoming character do is really important. The Herta able to solve one of your Pure Fiction sides, PF no longer be an issue for a long while. I would say wait for more information on how her MoC performance.

[@conscript6955]

@ alright thanks ken!

[@ubikeledek5510]

Uish, padu bang. Xsangka Seele still boleh perform untuk meta sekarang 💪🏻

[@stribijev]

E2 Sparkle, E1S1 Robin, E1 Fugue... Too many "golds" for me, full F2P :( I would love to just do that in 10 cycles, no idea how so far (without Firefly or Rappa on the second side).

[@aliounethiaw1443]

You can get eidolons even if ypu are f2p

[@stribijev]

@@aliounethiaw1443 Yes, but I decided not to. It makes more sense to get signature light cones sometimes rather than eidolons. Besides, even F2Ps make mistakes at pulling units they do not need, and I made such a mistake at least once :( However, an F2P account I manage with E1S1 Kafka and E1S0 Ruan Mei is thriving, but there is no Sunday, nor Jiaoqiu. It is a trade off in the end.

[@Persimmonism]

Hey Ken. I'm patiently waiting for seele rerun and while doing so I stumbled upon your channel. I really like your videos, watching your seele clears bring me special joy. I wanted to invest into seele because who knows when her next rerun is gonna happen. If you could answer a few of my questions I would really appreciate it. I was planning on pulling e2s1 seele, I have e0s1 robin and e0s1 sparkle. I was thinking about pulling e1 robin and maybe e2 sparkle, do you think it's good idea to pull for sparkle eidolons or sunday is just straight up better? Does e2 robin provide any meaningful advantage inside 0 cycle? Is it worth playing robin/sunday/sparkle together? And finally what are other notable teammates for seele?

[@KenRurouni]

I would say get robin eidolons to E2 and leave seele on e0s1 will do. Sunday need to be e1s1 to be better than e2s1 sparkle, if you want to invest lesser than get sunday e1s1. Robin e2 ease up some rng hit in the run, it also help seele to hit speed threshold on her lc easier so you wont need e2 seele. Yes you can play all 3 harmony you mention together but is better to split them up for your 2nd team.

[@Persimmonism]

@@KenRurouni Thank you for your response. I'm still tempted to pull for e2 seele, but will prioritize e2 robin. And the last question then(I swear this is last one, please bear with me :) ) what would be the speed tuning with both sparkle and sunday together if I ever decide to use them? I always get confused on how to place them together, because of sparkle's only 50% advance

[@KenRurouni]

@Persimmonism its really depend. Theres a lot of scenario, some case u want to pull sunday with sparkle and pull seele after. Normal scenario will be sunday has 1 spd more than sparkle but this might face an issue of sparkle couldnt fully AA seele after.

[@Persimmonism]

@@KenRurouni I see. Thank you once again for your wisdom.

[@huschlklee1521]

Really nice run. 11 speed on an er rope is crazy 😂

[@KenRurouni]

got pretty lucky back in the days when farming this set

[@xenajin6827]

🤷🏻🙌🏻👐🏻absolute cinema🙌🏻👐🏻🤷🏻. gr8 run

[@09-ts6ig]

What a mad lad

[@2im36]

awesome video, j had to ask bc im dumb, why no sunday? isnt he supposed to be better than sparkle

[@KenRurouni]

@@2im36 need e1s1 to replace sparkle in this team. Also, I went for e1 fugue so didnt pull him.

[@2im36]

@@KenRurouni oh lol that makes sense

[@lyamlee5453]

How does the set up change with Sunday lc on TY? How would the speed tuning have to be adjusted and does it allow for less relic investment/rng in the run? Great showcase as always!

[@KenRurouni]

Nothing need to be adjusted. I run the same relic just by changing the lc and it will work with the same target sequence.

[@froobreht]

i cleared this in 0 cycle with: Lineup 1: Firefly, Trailblazer Harmony, Ruan Mei, Lingsha Lineup 2: Acheron, Jiaoqiu, Sparkle, Aventurine these were my 6th try. I resisted using these lineups for the first five tries because I wanted to try and clear MOC12 with Feixiao Team 1 cycle, Rappa Team 1 cycle, Jingliu Team 2 cycles, and DHIL Team 3 cycles. I even tried with QIngque Team 3 cycles.

[@pincopallino1135]

How much does Seele dmg decrease with Fu xhan replacing one of the supports?

[@KenRurouni]

pretty big decrease if you remove any one of them. With sustain, she will be doing 3-4 cycle if replacing Pela or Tingyun, 5-6 cycle if remove Sparkle E2.

[@nguyendanhhaole7400]

I have Robin e2s1 and Sparkle e2s1 but Seele e0s0 and Tingyun e3 . can i 0 cycle?

[@KenRurouni]

@@nguyendanhhaole7400 you will be missing some energy since tingyun is just e3. Seele is fine with s0

[@legendarytezoka3522]

why my seele won't rerun.....i can't take it anymoreeeee(installed 2.0)...it's a long time saving for her

[@Seele_Lover]

Not yours, is MY.

[@legendarytezoka3522]

@Seele_Lover don't tease me....the game did alot...donno when will she rerun and makes me craze...every patch i think she will but she won't

[@2im36]

bro has tingyun on both sides lmaoo

[@pradiptojati9046]

I tried replicating 2nd stage but instead of e2s1 sparkle I use Sunday e0s1, also e1s0 Robin but my Seele e0s1 damage doesnt even come close to this run despite having almost same stats 😅

[@KenRurouni]

you are losing out defense shred if only on E0S1 Sunday, is really a big loss. I would say he need to be E1S1 for it to come close to Sparkle.

[@VladimirShindo]

The only thing I dont really understand is: if with 134

[@KenRurouni]

because DDD x2 usage and eagle will give you 1 more turn on top of the extra action with 158+ eagle.

[@VladimirShindo]

Oh, I see, thank you, I managed to 0c with seele without all the eagle and ddd setup, sunday really helped I guess

[@yuuki6390]

What i find amazing here is Seele actually consistently crit. Meanwhile, I look at my 93% cr seele and *sigh*...

[@sev559]

You don’t see the runs where she misses

[@KenRurouni]

Well, shes at 99.6% in this run, she does fail crit maybe 1 in 20 run 😅

[@yuuki6390]

@@KenRurouni would've loved to see that .4 prevail. After all, not 100% is still 50% 🗿

[@kiyomiaa]

i love your showcases so muchh !! also, I wanted to ask you, who should I pull in 3.0., (50/50, I'm at~65 pity, have 140 pulls), Lingsha, The Herta or Robin(maybe I can get 2 of them), or save for Tribby or someone else?

[@coraW]

im not him but whether you should get lingsha or herta depends on who you have rn. if you lack an aoe dps, herta. if you have less than 2 sustains, lingsha. robin should be a no brainer tho imo

[@kiyomiaa]

​@@coraW tysm!! I think I would get Lingsha and Robin, it's a pity that I won't be able to get The Herta or E1 for Robin, but I hope that hoyo will not add Ruan Mei rerun in 3.1. banners, cause I want to get her too, and Tribby, my lovee😭❤️‍🩹

[@coraW]

@@kiyomiaa yeah that sounds good! tribbie seems to be a very good universal support (more like a sub dps) too so you're in luck lol

[@greenvega]

Tribbie not worth it if u not getting the herta, she just dps who have kit what will help charge herta's ult faster and that's it, if u not struggling with pf, she is easiest skip

[@coraW]

@@greenvega i think they just like her as a character tho. either way, no harm in getting harmony tbh. her kit does seem very universal as off now since all she does for the most part is deal dmg. she just also happens to be herta's best support

[@soffir0964]

Bro dont know what powercreep is

[@soffir0964]

Seele supermacy

[@No.22二十二号]

Would u recommend the new relic set scholar lost in erudition set for seele?

[@KenRurouni]

@No.22二十二号 no. It does lesser than quantum overall, seele will need to basic to utilize the advance forward as well. If you manage to get a set by farming the speed set, is alright to use but not worth if you purposely farm for it.

[@solsenu]

Im comming back after a few years, I have seele, bronya , and Tingyun for my team. should I summon on Firefly? or wait for Acheron? I have 144 tickets saved.

[@KenRurouni]

@@solsenu save up even more. Wait for next patch and see which unit you like, dont pull for old character now unless you are done with end game.

[@andidontknowyou]

begging hoyo for ruan mei rerun

[@LlGHT]

Can this be done with E2 FF with E0 Fugue? or is the E1 Fugue better?

[@KenRurouni]

E2 ff can do this easier since SP economy is pretty healthy. I force to NA in wave 2 to conserve SP on HMC

[@lim3020]

yes. I already clear MOC without even need to roll for Fugue. still using the OG break team without even need Lingsha & Fugue.

[@pradiptojati9046]

I'm using e2 FF e0 Fugue and can 0 cycle svarog, but i cant 0 cycle 2nd stage

[@Devika2545]

@@pradiptojati9046 Already sustainless? If not, replace sustain with HMC

[@juniorraya1023]

I really need that Robin e1 for my seele but i want aglaea..

[@KenRurouni]

Pull both 🤣

[@NeoStarImpact]

On your Seele run could you have used Sunday instead of Tingyun?

[@KenRurouni]

@@NeoStarImpact i dont have sunday. If you have him, yes you can replace tingyun with him

[@Nagasak1]

Is that team playable for me if i have E2S1 Sparkle, E2S1 Seele and E0s1 Robin?

[@KenRurouni]

E1 is require on Robin. Without it you will lose out quite a lot of damage, getting the clear for full star is totally viable replace Tingyun with a sustain for the clear.

[@everythingispale]

the worst DPS firefly and the best DPS seele 0 cycle together 🔥

[@boled-c8m]

@@everythingispale nice joke

[@Exterminate-zv8dp]

Will the FF team work with E0 Firefly?

[@KenRurouni]

it's a E0 Firefly in the video...?

[@Exterminate-zv8dp]

@KenRurouni I confused S1 with E1 I meant to ask if it's possible with an S0 Firefly

[@KenRurouni]

@Exterminate-zv8dp is possible but the spd requirement and DDD requirement will be higher to force firefly to move once more before molten core end

[@kingUnmei]

Guys should I pull for Seele?

[@bluedrop00]

"Castorice"

[@kingUnmei]

@@bluedrop00 is that new Seele?

[@bluedrop00]

@@kingUnmei maybe😂 at least the same mono quantum

[@KenRurouni]

Not recommended, get new unit is much preferable~

[@kingUnmei]

@@KenRurouni thank you D:

[@MoiMoai]

Kok kayak gampang gitu bang? W aja harus tryhard berkali kali 😢

[@jejeje6858]

Son los chanchitos

[@MoiMoai]

@jejeje6858 English please

[@minhlamat2879]

why e0s1 firefly but not e1s0 tho

[@KenRurouni]

value wise e1s0, I went for e0s1 since Im not planning get eidolons for dps.

[@olexeyi1]

One player already did 3 cost FF team 0 cycle Svarog

[@KenRurouni]

it's pretty much impossible to 3 gold FF this Svarog due to toughness bar increase in the current rotation, 4 gold should be the minimum. Last rotation Svarog is possible since it has lesser toughness bar, I did 3 gold as well back then.

[@olexeyi1]

@KenRurouni kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKSslJmdhq9lgKssi=OEuO08uAV4IGgAXh

[@KenRurouni]

I saw it, like I said its pretty much impossible. Kudo on him who did it, I don't have the relic to run 177 spd firefly and I don't have S5 DDD as well :/. 1 lesser impose on DDD require firefly to have another 2.5 speed.

[@Eclin]

It’s easier to pull for more cost than having these crazy builds heh

[@olexeyi1]

@@KenRurouni like every time, u spend more in-game time to get better relics or pay for additional cost. One of my friends tried it and he really did that with a bit worse relics There's nothing impossible, especially if u try to compare it with Xolze Telos (just as an example), she has even better relics. I still remember 184 windset Boothill 0 cycling choir 5 months ago

[@yurukuselev1425]

HOW

[@eddykun6194]

does FF really need her LC?

[@KenRurouni]

for this clear without her LC, it will left with 5-6% on both Svarog and Casket.

[@eddykun6194]

@@KenRurouni oooo...okay...thank you for the info...need to pull for her LC next rerun!!!

[@hanyuee1160]

It's nice to have, but I wouldn't say necessary. Firefly is a very good e0s0 unit. Better than her E1 though, because of the cost.

[@coraW]

s5 lc in the herta shop does great. her lc is good if you wanna 0 cycle tho

[@sev559]

@hanyuee1160FF E1 > Her LC. Even more true now when Fugue invalidates half the passive of the LC.

[@jasonwijaya561]

from ur opinion, should i try to get firefly e1 or wait for ruan mei rerun, because i just got back to this game and i don't have ruanmei,

[@KenRurouni]

@@jasonwijaya561 ruanmei if you ask me. Either e2 firefly or e0, e1 is not really valuable.

[@jasonwijaya561]

@KenRurouni thankss for ur info

[@shadowedarka1283]

Is this even human play?

[@KenRurouni]

Haiya this is very rough play already 🤣

[@HoKaung]

Rng fight 😂

[@nchtblut]

xdd

[@tinnguyen9578]

Node1 Fugue 0cc node2 Robin Hanabi 0cc not seele

[@KenRurouni]

@@tinnguyen9578 wake up lol

[@theoDSP]

E1 Fugue carries the run. Without Fugue, FF won't 0 cycle. Also Sustainless run.

[@KenRurouni]

It's 2025, sustainless run on superbreak should be the norm. E0 Fugue can get the 0 cycle as well but the 1 gold will go to either E1 FF or E1 RuanMei~