Kenshi: Race Tierlist

[@g00b3r22]

now do one for real life

[@jarensmiarowski5493]

My thoughts exactly

[@erickromero5638]

This

[@esoteric_mememaster]

Based as fuck.

[@EldenRingStreams]

Saw the thumbnail and that’s what I initially thought

[@fooooooooooooooo]

1. East Asian 2. West Whites 3. East Whites 4. South Asians 5. Latinos 6. Central Asians 7. Arabs/ME/ North Africans 8. Africans

[@capnplaidbeard]

Obviously Hive Worker Drones are S tier, for the sole reason that Beep exists

[@isador555]

Beep #1 follower

[@kraanz]

I like that alkie/druggo Green as well. Both of them have lost their left arm and replaced it with masterwork KLR arms in my game. Both of which Beep made. What does Green make, you ask? Some dank, dank green. Wait, hash isn't green, so it doesn't work. Never mind.

[@CyberBeep_kenshi]

Yes! Beep is the strongest warrior!

[@MrJennick]

I don't care how accurate it is, I'm just glad people still keep making content for Kenshi

[@tylerbryanhead]

Secret Hiver advantages you only notice when you really learn to play them: -run fast -faster combat speeds -bleed out slowly -weak limbs= toughness xp and robotics (annoying early game, great mid-late game) -less food for workers=more profits on agricultural goods -sex appeal At first they are squishy, but after you train them up they are surprisingly resilient. It's unlikely that a fairly tough hiver will succumb to its wounds before another comes to heal them up. The faster combat speed is actually noticeable aswell, they hit fast, block fast, and stumble faster. They can punch slightly above their weight if you have enough of them, which is more manageable seeing as how they eat a quarter as much as a shek does. Get like 10-3-5 ratio of soldiers, princes, and sturdier workers.The soldiers will tank most attacks, workers create gaps with their crossbows, and princes renforce where needed (though their role is more of a noncombat stealth/thief/assassin/medical role). Add a few pack animals and you have a solid caravan. Leave the rest of the worker drones with a small contingent of soldiers and princes home in a sweatshop pumping out whatever food/intoxicant/medic/robotics you think is fun. Theres a mod I want to try that adds portable camp turret crossbows that I think would make my hiver caravan a force to be reckoned with. In all, a lone hiver is weak. Each class has weaknesses that make them less appealing than other races. However, each classes weaknesses are covered by the other twos strengths. When you combine them the whole is greater than the sum of its parts.

[@silentgameplay4364]

Isn't Hive princes technically more of a crossbow type? they have bonuses for turrets and Crossbow, My setup is Princes are crossbows/medics while Soldier drone tanks and Worker drones provide melee backline cover.

[@rein1329]

Hives dont have faster combat speeds, you confused it with combat move speed, aka how fast they move in combat but not how fast they attack or block You can check this by modded it to 10x and see that they wont attack or block any faster in combat but they will teleport from enemy to enemy.

[@silentgameplay4364]

@@rein1329 Wait so what's the point of balancing the hiver's then. from what I see it is that the reason they have hitpoints nerf across the board is to make them visually look like fragile but agile. they're supposed to be easily toppled but they can dish more attacks. I think giving them both combat speed and move speed should've been the base game.

[@Carahloporra]

Great essay, they're still the worst race. No matter how high your toughness is (even 100 toughness) you cannot utilize the KO point properly because any hit that takes you passed 75-80 kills ya.

[@tylerbryanhead]

@Carahloporra Counterpoint, bugs together strong. With my armor sweatshop pumping out masterwork armor, I don't think anything can really hit my melee fighters that hard. My crossbowmen might be vulnerable to such an attack but for every 1 prince with a foreign sabre I have 3 soldier drones with falling suns and heavy polearms, and for every soldier drone I have 4 worker drones with crossbows. In a typical squad I send out I have 12 workers crossbow spamming, and honestly, they are easily replaceable, though I haven't lost one since the very beginning in a shek raid. Nothing gets that close to them, prince and soldiers have like 80+ melee. When they get into the fight they all are at like 60 martial arts and have decent armor. I have a very well trained swarm, 3 squads like this too, with another dozen or so in training with the headquarters element. I usually rotate them on a deployment schedule. If 1st is out, 2nd is training, and 3rd is doing base maintenance/defense. However, for big strikes against towns, I bring them all out. This is all to say anything that can deal 75-80 damage should be worrying about my bugs, I'm not worried about them. My bug men operate with impunity.

[@onestormgx8948]

Hiver worker dron - Prince S tier cuz of the extra speed you can crossbow kite all the other races and kill really strong enemies with just a toothpick and a couple ammo drops around the area.

[@gamingspacemonkey]

I am a bit of a masocist, or what I like to call, storyteller. I downloaded the torso start mod, and picked hive worker drone. I do this, because I want the little guy to get his fair shake. My experience? Well it’s relatively easy to get high sneak as a torso, and hanging around gate guards, while risky in some ways, is a good way to get meat and goodies. Buy cheap limbs, use them to adventure or more likely, labor, then quickly you can upgrade to “”good”” limbs. Late into the game with high skills, I dont pick limbs for their durability, because that 75 hp for my chest and stomach, specifically chest cuz I’ve been using samurai pants, yeah I can’t take a hit. My limbs are never the problem, especially because I can repair them to full quick, and they are so much stronger. It is funny that a tiny bug man carries around a big sword, even bigger than the normal big swords in kenshi, but if I were playing to “”win”” I’d have run my happy ass over to the Shek, recruited Ruka, and basically made her the main, and Torso the housewife.

[@JosefSloanson]

Race Tier List is crazy 😂

[@isador555]

I don't understand what the big deal is!

[@The_Reality_Filter]

@@isador555 some folk are fragile

[@JosefSloanson]

@@The_Reality_Filter 😂 called joking around

[@FrogmanhatesQibli]

the solo naked martial arts using hiver drone is the intended and most balanced playstyle

[@Glare108]

Kenshi and DF, a man of taste.

[@CyberBeep_kenshi]

1 important point, there are mods that fix the armor. The cut resistance is bugged in vanilla, its incorrectly calculated. When you fix that, the few more hp/limb don't way up against bleeding. Shek is weaker than I.e. scorchlanders, because they bleed much quicker. Which means you die quicker. Personally i rarely play Sheks. Skellies are obviously op, just not in the first few hours when you don't have a repair kit etc. But after that, they shine, literally ;) The strongest warrior is Obviously Cyber Beep though!

[@FrankieWuzHere]

It's not bugged in vanilla.

[@rein1329]

Bleed rate doesn't matter for end game maybe if you play with 4x bleed, I play with 2x bleed multiplier and none of my chara ever come close to bleed to death by the time they get past mid game, unless I let them get eaten by fogman for robot limbs.

[@t_gabiuel6058]

I disagree with almost everything in here but you made some good points. Personally, my tierlist would look like this: 1. Skeletons 2. Sheks. 3. Greenlanders/Schorchlanders 4. H. Prince 5. H. Work Drone 6. H. Soldier Drone. Skeletons first because they are good at every stage of the game while sheks are better at late/mid game. Although being unable to wear most armor, skeletons make up for their incredible resilience as they heal faster and require repairing instead of bandaging, which means you can get into battles more frequently which means more combat experience. So while sheks might the best warriors in the long term, they require much more resources to maintain while also having a slow movement speed and a lot of skill xp debuffs. My point is that skeletons are better than sheks in literally everything besides fighting. Need workers? Skeletons can work 24/07 without needing food or rest. Need fighters? Skeletons can engage in multiple battles in a single day and repair fast while most races needs to heal in bed after a quick skirmish. Need explorers? Skeletons can travel the whole map without worrying about weather, food or being eaten alive by beak things. The armor restrictions is a good price to pay for such versatile race.

[@marltonmanks9891]

nah even skeletons id argue are better at fighting. that small heal rate increase, higher limb health and ability to damn near instant heal all cut damage with a repair kit means they arent out of the fight for very long. and even when they have to take a few seconds to repair back up, they immediately mitigate the penalties to stats from damage. so a 1v1 fight where the victor is the first to knock out the other, yeah a shek will have a slight advantage from additional armor. but if we do a fight to see who gets knocked to recovery coma or dying first, my money is on the skeleton winning

[@shovel662]

1. Greenlanders and Scorchlanders 6. Everybody else Because “Man was made in God’s image, not you!” 🎉genocide intensifies🎉

[@isador555]

I see someone supports the Holy Nation! My favorite place to steal stuff for some extra cats. Hard to feel sorry for them when they always dissing my man Beep.

[@kraanz]

@@isador555 Mere words can not hurt Beep. Beep is the strongest. Beep and Agnu, skeletons together!

[@kraanz]

Which god? Narko or Okran? And, according to Holy Incels, the Scorchlanders are barely tolerable.

[@CyberBeep_kenshi]

religion is weakness.

[@CyberBeep_kenshi]

religion is weakness.

[@eVillGaming-eng]

I think Shek re supreme and need to defeat those greedy Hivers

[@Kruppuchino]

You mean the Hivemind specifically or do the hive-less also count

[@eVillGaming-eng]

@@Kruppuchino uhh idk haven't thought that far

[@schmolzz]

skeletons are stronger than shek ,people have tested this ,the armor doesnt matter.

[@kraanz]

All their body parts have almost twice HP of that of the Shek, and I'm still not sure if they are even capable of losing limbs. The Shek? I love them, but holy crap are they dumb. Their horns clipping through armor also looks pretty silly (same with Skeleton legs), which leads to me cutting them off at the first chance. "I know you have a super thick skull, Kang, trust me, my friend, I do. But I still want you to wear a helmet. Cut those horns, don't they grow back anyway? I know you think they're cool, but they're impractical. It would be like me wandering around a battlefield with a 3m long beard. Plus, I heard Rooka (I don't like the name Ruka for some reason), I heard she said you look super tasty without them. Her words, don't look at me like that. And Rane agreed, if you can call a short grunt an agreement, that is."

[@trumplostlol3007]

Their hp will decline over time and you have to fix them. Their repair kits are expensive and can only be made in the mid game. They are also a liability if you need to travel through HN frequently. If you have an army of 40 to 50 early on in the game, you will see what I mean. Skeletons are over-rated. They are for people with a teeny tiny small group of thugs. LOL

[@The_Reality_Filter]

@@trumplostlol3007 hey you say people that have teeny tiny small group of thugs like it's a bad thing! Oh and btw their repair kits are only expensive if you buy them. Horses for courses.

[@trumplostlol3007]

@@The_Reality_Filter Tiny tiny small squads are for people who do not know how to manage a real army. There are people who want to manage a group of thugs and people who want to manage an empire. it is up to you.

[@The_Reality_Filter]

@@trumplostlol3007 with the right tiny squad you don't need to micro manage a "real army". With the right tiny squad you can run an empire npnp. 🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖

[@mabs9503]

Race? Ist!

[@777CHEKIST777]

The problem with tier lists is that they are made by laymen for complete noobs. Anyone who plays a vanilla game is a noob, a noob who is afraid of mods and plays vanilla first is a lifelong noob. Kenshi without the Genesis project is like civilization 5/6 or a game from paradox interactive without DLC. But everything is different there. In first place is the hive of warrior drones. Because they get armor for the body that has 100% coverage for the head. Attention, the head slot is still inaccessible to them - this is the main armor that covers the head 100%. In addition, they simply have better armor that is only suitable for hives, but their recipes are harder to get and craft than armor for people. All this makes them much more durable than Sheks. There is no such armor for skeletons, otherwise they would create an imbalance. But what really creates an imbalance is the hive Praetorians, who can be under your command and wear armor available to hive soldiers. This devalues all Sheks and Skeletons completely.

[@777CHEKIST777]

Praetorians have a hunger accumulation of 600% haha

[@trumplostlol3007]

Seriously, what mod is necessary other than 256? The vanilla game is the best if you know how to play the game right. LOL

[@777CHEKIST777]

@@trumplostlol3007 When toxic people piss you off and you don’t know what to write to them. I didn't read lol

[@trumplostlol3007]

@@777CHEKIST777 LOL keep going. You are a noob who can only play kenshi using some stupid mods. LOL The only mod that is truly necessary is 256. Any other mod is for noobs. LOL

[@rein1329]

>In first place is the hive of warrior drones. Because they get armor for the body that has 100% coverage for the head. Which armor? not modded, right? because I cant find them in game Hive Shirt and Hive Chain Shirt only have 100% for chest and stomach and their Hive Chain Shirt is sligly worse compared to Dark Leather Shirt on top of have no arm covered.