IMO The Van Halen unique sound comes from the unsung hero Michael Anthony. Mikey’s background vocal harmonies are amazing!
@kentamplin3 жыл бұрын
👍
@potatolew44953 жыл бұрын
10,000% agree.
@johnnycamrose85633 жыл бұрын
Totally.
@robertomusitano42383 жыл бұрын
100% agree with you
@GenuineLarry2 жыл бұрын
I largely agree as a lifetime Van Halen fan… Mikey doesn’t get enough recognition
@ladystrange47693 жыл бұрын
The ONLY “replacement” singer I’ve ever LOVED esp because it was like a VH 2.0! New songs new sound new feel. Sammy didn’t replace Dave’s voice- he brought his own everything 😁
@tonyhughes92982 жыл бұрын
Totally agree
@dyer2cycle2 жыл бұрын
..I think that is spot on..Sammy didn't replace Dave, he helped evolve VH...
@JohnCunningham-sy5ug2 жыл бұрын
Van Hagar girlie songs
@Punttipate62 Жыл бұрын
How about gary😁
@smurfizebra48173 жыл бұрын
Vocally, Michael Anthony is the unsung hero. He gave VH that special sound no matter who the front man was.
@calpilot7 Жыл бұрын
David Lee Roth has that little something special……magic really…..called CHARISMA. Can’t explain it but DLR steps on stage and you can’t take your eyes off of him. Special quality.
@droopyd67droopy993 жыл бұрын
David's stage presence is amazing, Gary surprised me, but ... Sammy is my favorite. His voice is wonderful, for me, he is the best VH singer by far.
@johnfletcher948 Жыл бұрын
U high goofball?
@TimE_51503 жыл бұрын
Love both incarnations, without Dave Van Halen would not be where they are in Rock history. Sammy brought a whole new melodic flair to the band. Thankfully Michael Anthony was there for both!
@Terk1313 жыл бұрын
Dave got them on the map, Sammy got them awards and sales and Gary was absolutely awesome. I have seen Dimomd Dave and he would forget lyrics and it was a disaster and this was early on. I have seen the Sammy/Dave tour and Sammy blew Dave away. Gary was just awesome.
@scottmcclure41532 жыл бұрын
I don't believe that we wouldn't hear from Edward. With or without DLR. We were gonna hear from that finger tapping cat Mr Edward Van Halen.
@tomarriola49526 ай бұрын
@@Terk131wrong Dave rode in on Eddie's coat tails.
@walterplittle3 жыл бұрын
Ted Templeman said in his book that he had misgivings about DLR’s voice when they started working on the first album and was seriously thinking about replacing him with… Sammy Hagar. But decided to work with DLR because there was something special there, and in the end it was right. VH would not have been as big had they started with Hagar. Fast forward to 1985 and Sammy Hagar made a lot more sense and it was the best for both VH and Hagar. Personally I find Hagar era VH more interesting. And as fans, we really were the winners because we get to listen to both!
@therinchilnsford7773 жыл бұрын
Sam’s lyrics were very juvenile for a man in his 40’s....Dave’s lyrics are clever and had you thinking....take the tune Women in Love for one example.
@bogartstrolltv7523 жыл бұрын
Sammy did it better. No doubt! It’s a landslide actually!
@Pepsolman3 жыл бұрын
@@therinchilnsford777 sorry bruh. I see it as the opposite of what you’re saying.
@stevelaine13 жыл бұрын
And the DLR solo albums, great stuff!🤘🤘🤘
@potatolew44953 жыл бұрын
@@Pepsolman 👍
@betsyhuggett24293 жыл бұрын
I pick Sammy. I think DLR is an amazing singer, stage presence, arrogance, and athletic! He has a gift. But I think Sammy's presentation is smooth, friendly, draws in the crowd, and somebody you want to do shots with. For me, it's not just about the singing. It's how the music makes me feel. I'm feeling Van Hagar. Eddie, Michael, Sammy, and Alex take it to a different level.
@metallion07382 жыл бұрын
No thanks
@Camhill1823 жыл бұрын
Sammy has a Godly voice. What an absolute legend
@dyanyork50276 ай бұрын
DLR is a fun entertainer but not a great voice,I prefer the red rocker 🤘🏽
@chrisxx33752 жыл бұрын
Gary was SO underrated! That dude has so much vocal control, and does it effortlessly. 😳 Great video Ken!
@TheBerserker50 Жыл бұрын
he sucked1
@Marvidsen1973 Жыл бұрын
Fully agree 🙌🏻🎸
@fase1doughnut3 жыл бұрын
You’ve also gotta remember DLR brought the fun back to rock. Everything was serious as hell up to that point, all political and everything and the DLR comes along and gives everyone a good time. He gives people something to dance to. Without his attitude, Van Halen would have been a talented band but not the revolution it was.
@ericksonguitar3 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen Van Halen with all three singers and I have to say Gary was my favorite show. The set list was so diverse and had their whole catalog represented. It was literally “best of both worlds”
@Packerscorner3 жыл бұрын
Gary’s best album was: Extreme: “III Sides to Every Story.” One of my favorite all time records.
@raymondmasse55773 жыл бұрын
Extreme did not get the recognition they deserved. For that fact neither did The J. Geils Band. Do you think that their both from Boston had anything to do with it?
@jorgeeherrera3 жыл бұрын
LOVE that album..
@ebayindievinyl32563 жыл бұрын
I jammed with Nuno he was awesome
@ddinfant6793 жыл бұрын
Pornograffitti was also a great album, legendary. Very very strong, but the concept of extreme III made it its own thing. An album to not just play but take your time with... A soul searching experience that still stands strong 30 years later will forever.
@ddinfant6793 жыл бұрын
Come to think of it Not many bands can claim 2 albums with the sort of strength of Pornograffitti and III sides ...It's like Queensryche Mindcrime vs Empire. Here I'd say III sides is Extreme's Mindcrime
@donwoodward79443 жыл бұрын
Ken - props for giving Gary Cherone respect. He sounds great live & brought his own style + unique voice to the party. I think Sammy is the superior vocalist of the three 🤘
@marmal3202 жыл бұрын
Sammy is hitting all kind of notes and he looks like he’s just in second gear. As natural as waking down the street to anyone else.
@joshuamiller83283 жыл бұрын
Sammy was from a technical standpoint the best singer VH had. Roth had a sound that made him and in turn VH unique. While not a great singer by any means he had a “sound”. Cherone has a great voice who was able to do all eras of the band justice. He gets a bad rap because the one record he recorded with the band wasn’t very good, but he isn’t to blame for that.
@zososhep3 жыл бұрын
Agree 100% From a technical standpoint Sammy's range is pretty incredible and DLR cannot get close to that range. Having said that however-when I think of VH I always think of "Aint talkin bout love" or "unchained" or early VH ie...the DLR era! Gary Cherone is an excellent singer and I thought he did a great job especially live! In many aspects way better than Roth could do live. It is too bad that Cherone gets dumped on because VH III was not "as good" as previous records however there are 100's of bands who would love to be able to put out a record as good as VH III...IMHO!
@bluelivesmatter7193 жыл бұрын
Could not have said it better. Roth was a better frontman but not vocalist. Saw them live with Cherone and was blown away how good he could sing songs from both eras.
@ericweik11253 жыл бұрын
@@zososhep Can't argue with that, and I still think of Van Halen with DLR. Roth invented the "rock front man " that it is today. I was never a big Van Halen fan until Sammy came on, and a lot of it had to do with the singing. I actually own all of DLR solo stuff and his VH stuff, but it is always a handful of songs I listen to off those albums, unless it is the first or 1984, then it is front to end, no stop listening. With Sammy VH and solo stuff, I can listen start to finish, and it is because of the voice....but to each is own, no disrespect for DLR from me.
@hypknowthismofo46043 жыл бұрын
Sammy All around...He was and is a beast vocally...Dave was fun and the showman for sure...vocals not so much....Gary was technically great....stage was fair.
@cjmartin45203 жыл бұрын
The reason the Cherone album was so bad was because of the difference in how Eddie and Roth or Sammy wrote vs how Gary and Nuno wrote. With Extreme, Gary would give lyrics to Nuno who would write the music to fit it. In VH Eddie always wrote the tunes and Sammy or Dave would write the lyrics and come up with the melodies. So when you put Gary with Eddie it was a songwriting train wreck.
@LLPOF3 жыл бұрын
Gary was probably better in the fact that he could sing Dave and Sammy's songs. Sure wish we'd gotten more than one album with him.
@jaysonraphaelmurdock88123 жыл бұрын
Only if they had gotten a producer to helm the album.
@dennyzeleniak31173 жыл бұрын
They did make a second album with him but it was shelved unfortunately. Check out a band Gary was in called Tribe of Judah. There's a song on there called Left For Dead that was written for the second album VH did with Gary.
@terryguire13213 жыл бұрын
Yes, if you watch a whole concert with Gary you realize that he could sing it all. I understand that the tour with him was enjoyed because he could do it all. But you do have to write great songs to make it. Maybe the songwriting chemistry wasn't what it needed to be for VH fans.
@motley3313 жыл бұрын
Terrible album. Go look at total sales. Embarrassing.
@brenthewitt7583 жыл бұрын
Dave from 78- 84 no one could touch him and his tension filled energy is what's made him and Eddie magical and untouchable
@sp3ci4lkpo3 жыл бұрын
This. I've always used "tension" to describe early VH's sound.
@djn60073 жыл бұрын
Brent, FUCKIN A, The best second to none, STORY OVER !! Van Halen with DLR favorite all-time band !!
@PlymouthGTX19723 жыл бұрын
Yeah but as we all found out, Dave needed VH far more than they needed him.
@mws7552 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@wesbates11432 жыл бұрын
Uh…. Eat Em and Smile was a HUGE record and Cliffhanger was damn good. Even A Little Aint Enough was amazing. Honestly most of his post Van Halen stuff was better than the Sammy Van Halen stuff. He also played with some KILLER guitarists. Vai, Becker (was better than Eddie) and John 5. Van Halen is a legend of a band but that Legend doesn’t exist if Roth isn’t ever in the band.
@numberkruncherr8 ай бұрын
In a Gary Cherone interview I read about his time with Van Halen he said that on a couple of songs he said to Michael Anthony something to the effect of "I'm going to need your help with the high bits on this one", so that answer the question as to why Michael was singing some of those bits live.
@Bmac19693 жыл бұрын
Gary Cherone is fire in concert! Amazing vocalist and should have more respect given him. Van Halen with Gary is some of the best concert footage if the band, period. And I love all VH...Dave, Sammy, and Gary.
@tobinstaggsrocker28512 жыл бұрын
Gary was better live with Van Halen than VH3 honestly vh3 was ok, but what Gary Cherone said about going on tour first with Van Halen and then make an album totally 💯 idk if you agree or not but that’s ok. Sammy did a FANTASTIC job with Van Halen vocally melodically not bashing Dave was good vocally it’s just the range that was his limit, but Sam raised the bar agree with Ken
@eatmoreporkporky43423 жыл бұрын
Van Halen without Dave isn't Van Halen to me. They just never had the impact without him imo. The first album hit like a freight train and Dave's raspy falsetto was just what the doctor ordered. No doubt Hager had a better smoother range but I prefer the more raw harder sound of pre Hager VH.
@PlymouthGTX19723 жыл бұрын
I prefer Van Halen with Dave, and Van Hagar with Sammy, over Dave's solo bubble gum pop cover career. Dave was never the same guy after he left Van Halen. Not even close.
@katrosper3 жыл бұрын
Dave is synonymous with VH. Yep, he had his own style and wasn't the most technical singer but he is VH. Everything after Dave is "someone else".. although those who came after him were probably better singers.
@ruf19703 жыл бұрын
While Dave was jumping & swinging his sword around on stage, which was great early on, Eddie, Mike, & Alex covered deficiencies Dave had as singer live. Never had to do that with Sammy or Gary. The way I always seen it was Dave was a great showman while Sammy & Gary were more about the music & great vocals live. With that being said all 3 brought different dynamics to VH that were all great in there own way...
@mattcarless6423 жыл бұрын
Love it! Sammy's huge voice. Also Micheal Anthony was a killer back up vocalist and helped Dave a lot....
@gregorykenfield31343 жыл бұрын
That's another often overlooked element to the debate...Michael Anthony had to change what part of the vocal harmonies he sang to make room for Sammy in their arrangements. He doesn't get enough credit for that.
@Terk1313 жыл бұрын
@@gregorykenfield3134 ABSOLUTELY and one thing I love is Michael Anthony is still with Sammy to this day. The chemistry just works.
@whoscook44812 жыл бұрын
Dave is just a gigalo!
@tucobenedicto1780 Жыл бұрын
I think David Lee Roth gave it this "everyguy" kinda feeling. Where you sing along (with alcohol) at a party. Maybe not the technical best voice, but very fun and makes you happy.
@jasondownsnet2 жыл бұрын
Gary said that he wished that they toured first so that they could learn how to play together as a band, before recording an album together.
@echeeone3 жыл бұрын
DLR's inflections and attitude were second to none and what made him and the VH era unique. GC could never match that and that's not say he was a poor singer or entertainer. Sammy holds his own and does it his way...very few singers could take on VH lead singer responsibilities and flourish.
@giulianacr26383 жыл бұрын
David Lee Roth really found his sound: sloppy, off key at times, cracks here and there, slurs, etc... Yeah, exactly what we all expected from a front man for VH 😂❤ gotta love him!
@mikeraz5943 жыл бұрын
Dave was never off key or sloppy on record you are oblivious
I feel you confuse confidence with arrogance. Just an opinion.
@djn60073 жыл бұрын
DLR, Best in the business from mid 70’s to the 80’s, saw them 6 times in concert for all 6 albums and nobody did it better than VH with DLR !!
@luisserafin74732 жыл бұрын
I watched the Australian concert footage with Gary Charone before watching your show. I didn’t even know about Gary Charone , but he rocked both parts. Seems he could do both DLR and Sammy. I don’t know why they stopped playing together. According to a Gary Charone interview, he and Eddie were working on a second record after Van Halen III. It may have had something to do with Eddie being ill, idk? I listened to Van Halen III for the first time and there are some killer Van Halen songs on there that sounded a lot like Sammy’s vocals. They could have had the best of both worlds and perhaps satisfied the great controversy once and for all. Thank you for putting together such a comprehensive comparison of the best songs of Van Halen with three separate singers. I totally agree that the music was always about Eddie and it didn’t matter who was singing. It was all good. Let’s hope there is a tribute concert celebrating the life and music of the Mozart of our time, Eddie Van Halen.
@JGM19753 жыл бұрын
Dave wrote “party” lyrics over intricate musical foundations. Sammy wrote lyrics that matched the intricacies of the musical foundation. The lyrics Sammy wrote helped to take Van Halen from a “party band” lyrically comparable to Poisons debut album, to a band whose lyrics and vocals were so in line to the intricacy of the music that we as fans lost focus on “party band” and focused on the musical genius. Gary did great imitations of Roth and Hagar, but failed to make it his own.
@tylerhackner97313 жыл бұрын
Love them both but I choose Roth overall
@Coalbucketlist3 жыл бұрын
Even Sammy has said Dave's voice was really cool and he had a great sound. I prefer Roth but love Hagar too. Cherone should have joined Queen. Dave simply the greatest front man ever!!!
@djn60073 жыл бұрын
FKN NAILED IT !!!!
@theutopiantrainer3 жыл бұрын
Certainly, Gary Cherone absolutely nailed the covers at the Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert. I was there and he managed to contain all of the stadium in his grasp.
@Mr._Mints3 жыл бұрын
Love this idea for a series! Just by the sheer fact that you gave Gary Cherone his dues has me hooked! He had so much potential! I personally love VH3. My dream VH music to hear emerge from the vaults would be what they worked on for Gary’s followup with the band. So far there’s only one demo out there for That’s Why I Love You, but I want to hear more! Anyway, loved this video, and I can’t wait for the next! 😊🤘🏻
@mytmouse572 жыл бұрын
I loved all the incarnations of Van Halen - with Sammy was my personal favorite - but it’s nice to see Gary getting some recognition and love too. And DLR was definitely the most fun as a frontman with the huge showman personality.
@RyanSmithGuitar2 жыл бұрын
Sammy brought new energy to Van Halen and was the perfect addition to the band for the music Eddie wanted to make at that time and the songs really matured with Sammy they became more than just a party rock band! Love all incarnations of Van Halen but the Sammy era will always be my favorite!
@metallion07382 жыл бұрын
Hard rock is not supposed to be mature but youthful , Sammy turned Van Halen into a pop rock band.
@parrishpoole19733 жыл бұрын
Diamonds are forever just like Dave .He brought it out of Eddie the competition between was what made them great
@ericweik11253 жыл бұрын
After seeing this, I have new respect for Gary. But Sammy was the best.
@Crashking143 жыл бұрын
I agree
@mcescher19572 жыл бұрын
I have loved Gary Cherone ever since "More Than Words" he WAS amazing....but for VH...it HAS to be Sammy Hagar hands down.
@fullhog3 жыл бұрын
Gary is outstanding in Extreme. He really is a top frontman! But Sammy is one of the best ever!
@djn60073 жыл бұрын
Behind Diamond David Lee Roth, best frontman in the business with VH.
@shannonferguson48103 жыл бұрын
Sammy was, hands down, the best vocalist Van Halen ever had. He sang with such power and could hit those high notes with ease. But let's not forget that without the virtuosity of guitarist Eddie Van Halen, the band never would have rose to the heights that it did. Thanks, Ken, for the excellent analysis.
@joelteague20082 жыл бұрын
David Lee Roth good thing but he was also a Showman Sammy Hagar was not a Showman
@mcescher19572 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!!!!
@jaygarza95672 жыл бұрын
You obviously know nothing about Music..😄
@jaceek20302 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree!
@mikenastasi89272 жыл бұрын
@@joelteague2008 How can you say Sammy wasn't a showman? Did you ever see them live with Sammy? Sammy didn't do splits or twirl a sword and scarves but he absolutely engaged the audience and connected with Eddie and Mikey on stage.
@sprezzatura87553 жыл бұрын
Gary was fantastic. Not to be uncharitable but I think his Achilles heel was his Coldplay look-alike optics. It should not go unsaid that fronting any band might just be the hardest gig in Show Biz. Somewhere along the line, rock and roll went from being the ultimate outlaw career to just another college major. Again, Gary was very capable. But I prefer my rock and roll to be raw, savage and visceral. There needs to be that element of danger which both Sammy and Dave had. Gary is safe. You could bring your mom.
@mwc19873 жыл бұрын
I’ve ALWAYS been a Hagar fan. He has to be one of my all-time favorites. DLR was and is a showman. Sammy is both a showman and has off the charts unique vocal talent. Charone is fantastic as well but never had the chance to show it much.
@TheMilesswint3 жыл бұрын
Always preferred Sammy’s vocals! His melodic range and the ability to hit some high stuff was always appealing to me. Anthony’s harmonies with Sammy are truly amazing! 🤘🏼🔥🤘🏼
@PorcelainLeigh3 жыл бұрын
Gary OWNED it, Wow. Made the Sammy songs sound easy. Poor Gary to put up with so much unnecessary crap. How could he win?
@cleverdood2 жыл бұрын
I loved all 3 of them. VH3 with Gary was so underrated, especially A Year to the Day. I’ve seen all 3 iterations live, couldn’t pick a favourite as they all brought something cool. Dave was by far the coolest, Gary easily had the best voice and Sammy was the best rocker of the bunch.
@rjh1469ii2 жыл бұрын
Dave's voice fit the early stuff, no doubt. Dave is a performer. Sammy and Gary are singers.
@SingingLessonsINC3 жыл бұрын
Funny David Lee Roth Quote: "Sammy brings a good party. The difference is, I AM the party!"
@GeeVanderplas3 жыл бұрын
Maybe once he was, but these days he's more like your annoying drunk uncle at the party...
@sp3ci4lkpo3 жыл бұрын
@@GeeVanderplas To be fair, Dave did say that in 1986 or so. :)
@therinchilnsford7773 жыл бұрын
@@GeeVanderplas unfortunately we all age.
@bobcatstillwell48443 жыл бұрын
For many reasons David Lee Roth voice and persona worked so well in Van Halen. I liked the harder edge songs such as Mean Street/the cradle will rock. I seen Van Halen in Kansas City in 1984. Many front men don't have technically a good voice. Example, Muck Jagger. Some how it works and you sort of appreciate the imperfection. That's Rock and Roll! I was a Sammy Hagar Fan before he joined Van Halen. His solo career was taking off. I would agree that Sammy has a better voice. However David Lee Roth was such an entertaining guy. There is something cool about a voice that is not perfect but works in the whole line up. There was a special magic with the original Van Halen line up. The reality was by 1984 with Jump the Halen sound was changing. With Sammy Hagar the songs were very polished and a more commercial rock friendly sound was happening. I did appreciate the for unlawful carnal knowledge album. It was heavier snd rocked with songs such as pound cake.
@colico143 жыл бұрын
For me, even though it was Sammy-era Van Halen that introduced me to the band, and I really enjoy a lot of the material from that time, I ultimately have to go with Roth, because he personified the original spirit of the band and helped craft the sound. Roth-era VH had a bit more menace, attitude, and fun than the Sammy era, imo. I also just like the songs from the DLR era better. In the Sammy era, they essentially became an AOR band. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but for me a lot of the original attitude, excitement, and overall vibe was missing, replaced by consummate professionalism.
@tonygarcia1793 жыл бұрын
DAMN Man that was perfectly WELL PUT !
@richardhayewire40242 жыл бұрын
Thank you for talking of Gary. He did HIS thing and I loved the energy he created with 3 guys that were together for a long time and made it a new band of brothers. I truly believed calling it Van Halen 3 was correct. Eddie and Gary had a lot of material that never was heard. That is upsetting that true fans of the "BAND" missed out on that. Gary with EXTREME & HURTSMILE is still creating eccentric powerful music. I think it became more about who's best and this guy doesn't sound like this guy. It's about the band. VH3. My personal preference. I recommend to check out extreme at the Freddie tribute concert. That is a front man. Helping one of the largest venues as well as world wide television coverage ,heal and find joy in the loss of Freddie. He reminded Queen fans how important the band was by being himself. Thank you for your take on this.
@VandelayKavorka2 жыл бұрын
Gary Cherone is one of my all time favorite vocalists. And he was awesome live with VH but for some reason he always felt like an outsider and not a true band member? But I am happy because he is perfection with Nuno Bettencourt in Extreme.
@amandafeinner4743 жыл бұрын
I love both Van Halen incarnations. They are both great frontmen in their own way. I like Van Halen better with David Lee Roth when it came to the original Hard Rock and Melodic Metal style that Van Halen started out with that I love. Even though David Lee Roth doesn't have much range in his voice, he has a unique singing voice that was good for the DLR-Era Van Halen. I also love Van Halen better with Sammy Hagar, when it came to his singing voice and the technical parts of Van Halen that I enjoy. Sammy is an awesome singer. He's got a lot of range and power in his singing voice. 👍🤘 I've seen Van Halen with Sammy Hagar back in 2004 and Sammy Hagar and The Circle back in 2017. Those concerts were awesome!!🤘👍
@JA-mq3os3 жыл бұрын
Roth has far more bluesy soul than the other guy.
@sherriavestal85993 жыл бұрын
On the old songs I prefer David Lee Roth but Sammy added hid own element to the band. VAN Halen was my first rock concert in I think 82, blew me away. But watching your video all I could concentrate on was Eddie. RIP. Love you!!!
@dewdew343 жыл бұрын
Pretty much my first concert as well 1984 tour. I was young but it was a blast, Diamond dave delivered. I saw Sammy and Co. in 86 at the Monsters of Rock tour, good show but it was outdoors, not quite the 84 show,
@celesteb72193 жыл бұрын
My first concert too, in 1979! Saw them for the last time in 2013, with the same 3 girls! Surprised them with front row seats.....so glad we saw them that final time.... RIP King Edward❤️
@ACEDIAMOND666 Жыл бұрын
29 May 1983 Heavy Metal Sunday US Festival I WAS THERE!
@jakemaattanen11 ай бұрын
Dave sang good enough and his whistle screams were unique sounding and thats always something.
@milanpolak3 жыл бұрын
There's only one DLR and no one can replace him but as a singer/frontman/songwriter package Sammy Hagar definitely took VH to a new level... Gary Cherone sang the Van Hagar tunes pretty well but didn't really fit, imo.
@GTUF3 жыл бұрын
Lololol took them to a new level? 🤣
@jaysonraphaelmurdock88123 жыл бұрын
If Eddie had not produced the album I think your opinion would be different
@ericmodcr3 жыл бұрын
Definitely enjoy all your series! I always thought it'd be fascinating to see you analyze one artist over time to see how they used proper or improper technique and if they were able to keep their range over the years or not. For instance, some singers can still belt it out in their 60s/70s despite decades of touring, while others lose their voices or lower the key as they age. You could take live performances of the same song 2 or 3 times throughout their career and see how they've held up and why/why not.
@kentamplin3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@Vociferousklang3 жыл бұрын
I’ve always enjoyed Sammy’s vocals more than DLR whose vocals can be cringey. It is about Eddie though. Enjoy both “era’s”
@jonathancartwright58093 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with your thoughts on Gary. I wish you would have shown the part of that same performance of Gary jumping into the stands rolling down the stairs literally jumping back on stage without missing a note.
@JuanPerex02 жыл бұрын
Extreme🤘
@EKNYR Жыл бұрын
I love both of these guys. I’ve actually met both of em. I will say this: people compare Sammy to Roth. They say whatever they want about #1 records but Roth-VH sold more records by volume (1984 sold more than 3/4 Hagar albums combined but never hit #1 because of MJ) and that’s the true line up. Sammy is so talented. Sammy is a lovely guy. Sammy held the fort. But Dave is Van Halen lmao. He even named the band.
@estorvator3 жыл бұрын
Sam definitely raised the bar. They did together very high quality hard rock, ballads and other experimental stuff. Eddie VH played keyboards and evolved as a guitarrist. From 5150 till Balance, he rocked. DLR created the band, Sammy raised already very high vh's bar. Gary? Extremely talented, but, at the wrong band at wrong time.
@jaysonraphaelmurdock88123 жыл бұрын
I totally disagree about Gary. If they had a real producer work on that album it would have been incredible.
@RockerChick3 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen both Van Halen & Van Hagar live. I never realized until this video that Dave really didn’t sing.. he spoke the lyrics and didn’t have much of a range at all. Eddie truly made Dave sound good. It was a great sound and combination and worked really well when Van Halen was hott! Wow... Sammy is the better singer hands down. Again, Eddie is the driving force behind Van Halen, but Sammy complemented the band in this era. Loved him in Montrose. Gary could do both... I have never seen them with Gary 😢 80s Dave wins hands down in stage performance because he was doing acrobats, high kicks and flips!! He was also considered super sexy back in this time period.. his stage performance compensated for his lack of vocal ability... which I didn’t even notice. The 80s ROCKED. Love them both. In a world full of uncertainty, this video made me smile. Thanks Ken.
@kentamplin3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
@jastinduck13393 жыл бұрын
Everyone likes their own, I personally like David Lee Roth, he sings with his chest and throat, Sammy Hagar has a pronounced nasal sound, just like the vocalist of the Scorpions, and the best vocalist in the world is Farinelli))) I always watch Sensei's video with interest
@kentamplin3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@jgsrhythm1003 жыл бұрын
I am from Boston and saw Extreme many times before they were signed. Regardless of what you think of him as a singer Gary had hell of charisma and they absolutely killed those Boston Clubs. He was swinging off the rafters. Gary would actually have been a better fit with Queen. Watch Extreme at the Freddie Mercury tribute!! In my opinion their performance was the best of that entire event!!
@hollyprincipato32874 ай бұрын
In my personal opinion, when Sammy joined the music wasn't as "in your face" as when Roth was there. Different types of vocalists for sure, but maybe a little more than that too. I liked both lineups of the band, it's just in my opinion, I have always liked the originals first. I am just weird that way.
@kaicanyonellis3 жыл бұрын
Gary definitely didn't have Sammy's range, and it's hard not to feel like he was doing a Sammy impersonation. If they had reworked the songs into Gary's range I think he could have killed it because you're right, he's an excellent front man and a great singer.
@jaysonraphaelmurdock88123 жыл бұрын
I feel Eddie pushed Gary into sounding as much like Sammy as possible which doesn't make sense since VH acted like Sammy was public enemy #1. I defend Gary all the time and fully believe that if they had used an actual production team then VH3 would have been killer.
@Justme774003 жыл бұрын
I think the band matured with Sammy, the music got down to pure rock instead of a party-type band. Team Sammy here! I never thought Dave had a good voice either, he was just a performer. I agree with you totally, Ken! Eddie was in a class by himself and I've always liked Alex's drumming. Gary Cherone did good in those videos! I can't remember any songs he did with Van Halen as recordings though. After watching this video now...WOW!! Sammy was a FORCE to be reckoned with! God bless him!
@lucasarnold20073 жыл бұрын
Hey mate I agree wit ya a lot there. Just wanna say Gary was on the album van halen 3 if ya wanna check that out
@Ernie19782 жыл бұрын
Sammy Hagar's records with Van Halen are my favourites. All of them are talented but I reckon Sammy is who made that band interesting to me in the '80s and early '90s. Besides Sammy and Michael Anthony's voices go together flawlessly.
@jasonstephenson7932 жыл бұрын
Personally I think one of the things that make bands great is the inter personal conflicts, that force each member of the band to out preform each other. Which we see in bands like Poison with CC & Bret & Van Halen with both David & Sammy. The sad thing is it's also the thing that if not controlled will drag them down as we saw in Poison & Van Halen.
@rigidironworks9834 Жыл бұрын
Love the video Ken, you gained a subscriber. I would take Sammy any day of the week and twice on Sunday, his vocals were off the charts.
@stanleywissmar34553 жыл бұрын
Diamond Dave rules! 1.His high range "whoo hoo" 's and screams to his low range/bass melodic or scat, sexy voice to his mid range is no walk in the park (try singing Feel your love Tonight...) is instant recognizable! (can not say that about many other singers) 2. Front Man extraordinaire, the whole package! (just look into a recent Gene Simmons interview) 3. Lyrics/songwriting is so much more memorable, poetic and in general intelligent and entertaining than 99.999% of all other rock performers. Hands down, DLR ruled the 80's rock scene! 🎼🙏 Sammy of course is a great, great singer but his lyrics are really poor and boring not up to par with Eddie's songwriting, which in DLR's case his was.
@anntrower51553 жыл бұрын
I think you said it best. Each has their individuality and each is fabulous in their respective uniquenesses. I guess when someone new comes into a great band, I'm not looking for them to be a replacement. I'm looking at new, wonderful qualities they can bring. Sammy Hagar must know me. He wrote a song for me. I can't drive 55. Lol! I'm sure you'd rock this music as well as any of them, if not better! It comes down to a matter of preference. :)
@kentamplin3 жыл бұрын
Rck on!
@michaelasbury54733 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see a vocal analysis of Gary Cherone with Extreme. Maybe something along the lines of your isolated vocal tracks series.
@Hammersmashed683 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna say something that is sacreligious in the VH world...Gary was the best singer and performer for the band. If you watch the VH live in Australia performance, he nails everything from every era of the band. He also has the charisma of Dave, the ability to belt it like Sammy, all the while maintaining his own signature vocal prowess and flare. Underrated. Amazing singer. And the VH III record is great
@MikeRojo3 жыл бұрын
Gotta agree with this. He was a happy "middle" the best of both worlds.
@beefjake3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. But when was rock’n roll about happy middles?
@thomasaghotmail2 жыл бұрын
He was a weirdo who never fit in with Ed & AL. As soon as they hired him he dyed his hair blonde. WTF would he do that?? They hired him. They didn't want a clone at lead vocals. But that was what Gary thought they needed. 🤣
@Punttipate62 Жыл бұрын
@@thomasaghotmail how is he a weirdo? geez, did he bang your girlfriend or something to make you hate him that much🤣
@cyberj23 жыл бұрын
Wow - Sammy is a monster. In the Poundcake footage here he simply dominates - and thank you Ken for playing this because I never appreciated how good a vocalist he was at the time. I I saw VH back on the 1984 tour, and recall DLR really struggling to hit the notes, but the whole crowd was so mesmerized by Eddie that you didn’t notice. Eddie played “Cathedral” that night so perfectly that it brought the place down - even after a fairly mellow song. Dave could move like he was a acrobat in Cirque de Soleil - but Sammy buries him as a vocalist….
@nic8577 Жыл бұрын
Was he playing cathedral on the double neck reverse bumblebee? Great story bro!
@alevanf2 жыл бұрын
Gary Cherone had his justice on this video, IMO, he is one of the most complete singers out there, cause he has a charming soft voice for soft songs, he moves a lot through the stage, and creates an incredible energy between band members and the audience, he directs the energy with his every move, through all the parts of a song, conclusive arrangements, climaxing, solo sections, etc., the way he moves invites you to understand the structure of the song, and he never stops moving. His technique on Van Halen era was at his peak, and even though he lacked the full sinergy that Sammy Hagar had with the band, and i think this is generational, and also i think this is what people rejected about him, he notably had more girth on his distorted voice, the way Gary performs Humans being compared to Hagar's version, is proof of how fat his distortion was. Also being part of Extreme, the band that had it all, Van Halen influence, Queen influence, and all mixed in with great musicians that took live performance to another level.
@BassManDan10183 жыл бұрын
Sammy was a singer, David was an artist. Love Sammy’s output with the band but DLR era Van Halen was so original - the songwriting, the look, the production - it really can’t be topped
@mdluk1992 жыл бұрын
Too bad DLR couldn't sing to save his life
@maji25102 жыл бұрын
Dave was a showman, too. An excellent one. His stage presence and performance are the things i liked most about him
@jeremiasnovaisteodoro98092 жыл бұрын
David roth hve a boice more string , more versatil
@raven56793 жыл бұрын
If I may offer my insight as your massive resident VH fan... people are inclined to say DLR “was never a fantastic singer,” but you check out those isolated VH2 isolated tracks and Dave is pitch perfect with a good tone/resonance in a sound that was all his own. After 1984-1985, his vocals began to decline in quality. He lost his falsetto train whistle technique by in large which he relied on so heavily for that signature Van Halen sound. Present in almost every hit they had from the first track on VH1 to the last track in 1984. As a frontman? Dave was the life of the party, and by the time they hit the stage at 9 PM, he had snorted enough snow to kill a purebred race horse and still knocked it out of the park from 79-82. He was really a perfect fit for them and established a base for what hard rock would become. VH1 all the way through 1984 changed the game for everybody. Guitarists and drummers and bassists alike. All with the help of the eccentric and powerful David Lee Roth. Sammy Hagar then bursts onto the scene after that lull of losing DLR. Raw. Unprecedented. A fresh take on the hard rock pantheon of talent that was Eddie, Mikey, and Alex. Taking a vocal style that’s somewhere between old delta blues and a soaring eagle type wail, it was a jolt of electricity as 5150 was shown to the world. Sammy was a lock for Van Halen success since Farm Aid 1985 when he jammed Led Zep’s “Rock and Roll” with the King EVH and began that friendship you’d see bloom into incredible hits such as “When It’s Love” and “Finish What Ya Started,” respectively. Sammy has one thing on Dave that I’d consider putting in a different category and that is LONGEVITY! I truly believe the biggest mistake EVH and AVH made was not reconciling with Sammy after 2004. He was and still is an incredible talent that the world at large grew to love in spite of the massive attraction that was DLR. All in all, 2 incredible frontmen. 2 incredible sounds. I’m glad both had their chance to strut their stuff and shine for millions upon millions to see. I’m glad they were able to leave us the budding genius on all of those records and I’m glad EVH was able to spread his own wings in a sense and diversify. Don’t cry because it’s over, but smile because it happened. Thanks for reading! Rock on!
@ThelSuperlKing3 жыл бұрын
Before there was auto-tune there was no pitch perfect. Everyone sang out of tune even if it was just for a micro bit. Truth! 🤣
@fernwehric-lifeinabus2 жыл бұрын
Gary is and will always be a fantastic singer. Big shoes to fill in VH but he did it fantastic
@marie_andreeplante11 ай бұрын
3 greats in their own ways but have to admit that Gary put 2 big pairs of shoes and did brilliantly! What a great band in my teenage's years...🙏🏻god!
@kpb57573 жыл бұрын
Sammy is a million times better,,,, No Question!!!! You "The Man" Sammy ❤️❤️❤️ Sammy has unbelievable vocal range.... I've been a huge fan of Sammy way before VanHalen,,.,,,, He is so talented!!
@pearlnova88912 жыл бұрын
Sammy I feel has the better vocals, and his charisma 💛💛 Seen them in 1994 Southern California outdoors, and it was an amazing show with the band arriving together and on time. So much talent those four had, and they were having fun!! ❤️❤️❤️
@edwardwille39863 жыл бұрын
Sammy is the best singer VH ever had. Prior to now, I'd never seen Cherone live with VH. He was quite amazing! I was pleasantly surprised!! Dave had so much charisma and was so unpredictable, you couldn't take your eyes off of him. He never did the same thing twice, which totally worked for him. Great video.
@tonybarqs78043 жыл бұрын
Sammy had it all.... showmanship and class, vocal range and powerful, songwriting, etc. Like you said, Ken, when he joined, the whole band stepped up their game. In studio, on stage, everything......IMO, the ultimate rock band was Van Halen wSammy Hagar!!!! Great video sir, really enjoyed it. Keep up the great work!
@kentamplin3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@sp3ci4lkpo3 жыл бұрын
I will always argue that Sammy's lyrics were...uh...not good. Cheesy? Hallmark? Cliche? DLR's lyrics were always, as even Alex Van Halen said, "poetic."
@dantana85703 жыл бұрын
@@sp3ci4lkpo yes dance the night away oh baby is very poetic LMAO
@tedforrester19483 жыл бұрын
100%
@tedforrester19483 жыл бұрын
DLR had some great zingers in some of his lyrics, but most of the rest of the song were typically simple, scat, and party talk. Sure, great for a high school beer bash in your buddy's back yard but without the occasional zingers and cool one liners his lyrics weren't much. Kind of like saying Arnold Schwarzenegger was great actor. "I'll be back" is cool and all but it's what we remember. We don't remember some of the ridiculous lines in other flicks. That was DLR to me. I love DLR and I love Arnold but they're both about the same performance scale. Sammy had some Hallmark, cheeseball lyrics for sure but only on a few singles. Listen to Mine All Mine, Amsterdam (one of the under rated VH songs of all), Love Walks In, and Finish What You Started. Smart, tongue in cheek, weird, philosophical lyrics. Great stuff over the entire catalogue of music but Sammy elevated it in every way but spandex.
@michaelhenze8773 жыл бұрын
I like both Roth and Hagar versions. However, the Roth era I'll put on when I want to effin party, and I'll play Hagar when I'm having friends over for wine and cheese. Two totally different vibes.
@toxsin22073 жыл бұрын
Sammy Hagar will always be my all time favorite VH singer, his stage presence, he's soulful, his songwriting in my opinion are untouchable.
@midiman3693 жыл бұрын
Gary is a very underappreciated talent. I remember watching the Freddy Mercury tribute concert and for my money Gary's performance was a real standout there too.
@BigRalphN3 жыл бұрын
Gary is very good. He did both Sammy and David great. I think it goes to some if your comments on other artists. He didn’t really add anything to the band. He was a great replacement and frontman. The voice is excellent.
@arkangel7j3 жыл бұрын
love sammy , met him , nice NON arrogant guy , great performer , (lil side note) he came to our musicfest , sounded great but it started raining , passed out ponchos to the entire crowd , asked if everybody was ok 4-5 times , the crowd got even more into it , ignored the rain and had a great concert IN the rain ... better than most bands in PERFECT weather ;)
@downdemon23782 жыл бұрын
One thing you may not have noticed or admitted is Gary Cherry-one [sic] is almost bone dry whereas cuz Sammy has about 42.6 megatons of "slickener" on his mic. As a producer, I say listen to them all dry or all wet. I bet these two guys are a close call. Props to GC for filling gargantuan shoes...
@Pepsolman3 жыл бұрын
The closest you get if Sammy being Dave is for the song “When It’s Love” which sounds like a song written with Dave type phrasing and range but tuned up for Sammy. Top Of The World is basically Jump written in a higher key for Sammy, in which it’s based off the last riff of the song Jump anyway.
@BradCross19823 жыл бұрын
This could be interesting, but in my opinion better is subjective and you’ll find many different answers from everyone 🤘🏽 Robert Plant- David Coverdale Bon Scott- Brian Johnson- Axl Ozzy- Dio- Gillian Layne Staley- Will Duvall Rob Halford- Tim Owens Just a few I can think of I know there’s many more 🤘🏽
@kentamplin3 жыл бұрын
Of course it's subjective.
@BradCross19823 жыл бұрын
🤘🏽
@jeffschielka78453 жыл бұрын
@@kentamplin Very!😎
@mlkerem13 жыл бұрын
@@kentamplin would love to hear your take on Steve Perry - Arnel Pineda
@Jamesharris-lo9nn3 жыл бұрын
I'm not a Sammy basher, I own 80 percent of his solo material and all of the Van Hagar albums. Love Sammy, but.... give me the six pack with Roth any day over the Van Hagar releases. 😁🎸
@djn60073 жыл бұрын
No Doubt !!
@tonygarcia1793 жыл бұрын
HELL YEAH !
@edmanzetti12353 жыл бұрын
David was like KingDavid- untouchable. Everyone loved HIM- his persona and personality - the energy, the big smile, the hair- my grandma knew who he was and she even liked him- He had something special about him- a lot of energy - but Star Power- he had it! It may have gone to his head a bit- nobody thought he could be replaced! I remember true controversy when David left - people really questioned if VanHalen would survive. Sammy coming in - didn’t seems like a replacement more like he was just stepping in for something new- There was no replacing DavidLeeRoth.
@edmanzetti12353 жыл бұрын
Sammy Hagar had more vocal power & skill. But-David Lee Roth was like a Monster Name- like Madonna, or Bieber- just for the Star Power and Charisma...
@ts319663 жыл бұрын
When David Lee Roth left and they picked up Sammy, I was excited!!! I liked Sammy’s solo career (except I can’t drive 55). David Lee Roth rubbed me the wrong way with his EP and videos. He thought he was wonderful. But then 5150 came out. ☹️. It was a bad dream. My favorite band turned into Duran, Duran. They wore pastel colored parachute pants on stage. Van Hagar made the worst rock song in history. (Finish what you started). Since we are ranking these singers, (Finish what you started) put Sammy Hagar at the bottom of the ranking. The music to (Finish what you Started) is good, the lyrics are the worst ever written. The song should be retitled, Hey babe can I be your doormat. Thank you for adding Gary Cherone. Gary sings DLR songs better than Sammy by a mile. I saw Sammy twice with Van Halen. Each time Sammy purposefully sang DLR songs poorly. I really think all of this debate can be settled easily. More DLR Van Halen albums have been sold than Van Hagar. These sales numbers are large. In fact Van Halen sold more David Lee Roth albums while Sammy Hagar was in Van Halen than Van Hagar albums. I also saw DLR 5 times. The first 2 times I saw DLR was when he was solo. I did not want to see DLR. I went to see the opening bands. DLR is the best frontman I have ever seen in a band. I do not like the DLR solo albums. The ONLY GOOD SONG is Yankee Rose. I do think Sammy Hagar is a great rock singer. But if you just listen to the music on the albums. DLR Van Halen is pure magic. Van Hagar is just another 80’s band.
@edmanzetti12353 жыл бұрын
David Lee Roth’s head got too big- he thought he was the star and Eddie was just a guitar player. DLR was nothing without the VanHalen Bros. He tanked hard and fast... he deserved to fall bec he got ugly-
@edmanzetti12353 жыл бұрын
Eddie Van Halen had a certain magic and he was able To bring the best out in DLR.. too bad.. glad we got what we did. I was young like 8 - by the time I was 13!DLR was done.. I’m glad for the memories...
@TheJpep24243 жыл бұрын
He replaced DLR and made them a better band. DLR is a circus act.
@mwales21123 жыл бұрын
I first listened to Sammy through the Montrose albums back in the early 70's and loved that sound. I was never a big VH fan, but Sammy made it complete for me. He didn't replace a singer he made VH better with his own style...
@rvk51502 жыл бұрын
This is great analysis of Gary who unfortunately is often dumped on as a lead singer in Van Halen...I believe three things would/could have changed that: 1. They tour before putting out the VH3 album (Gary has often been quoted saying this). 2. Perhaps some of the on stage antics were toned down; I personally love Gary but some do not care for it. 3. A better producer for the album that could have put in more control and say than Mike Post. Just my humble opinion...I for one love all eras of Van Halen and always will :) Love the channel and videos!!!
@KellySKline3 жыл бұрын
I watched for the first time last night Extreme’s performance at the Freddie Mercury tribute in the early 90s, and they were amazing. Gary Cherone is a fantastic singer.
@blainetrahan88833 жыл бұрын
I think they all brought some special to the table. Sammy to me is the best singer out of them all but again they were all great at what they did. Love this video idea. Keep them coming.
@KevinJL777_WDFA3 жыл бұрын
David Lee Roth by far. The ultimate frontman. Sammy made VH into a love tune band
@kentamplin3 жыл бұрын
👍
@johntaylor56523 жыл бұрын
DLR was Van Halen....its in its DNA!
@davidfrench54073 жыл бұрын
I always thought that at first, but then remembered, the music was mostly written by Eddie, the lyrics by Sammy. So, if Dave was still with VH in, say 1988, they'd be doing love songs with Dave singing them (but I suspect he would have bailed on that)
@vonMohl3 жыл бұрын
In addition to his tremendous personality, the Van Halen frontman possesses a vocal range of 5 octaves and 3 notes (ranging from E1 to A6), which makes him the most versatile old-school hard rock singer
@brooza6643 жыл бұрын
I'd never even heard of Gary until just now, but he seems great!