Kerosene heater using Diesel WILL IT WORK Part 2

[@franksmith2891]

Well im not using diesel in my heater. I will stick to what I know. Thank you for point this out. Good job Keep up the good work

[@richardmace5429]

I've found that it does work okay in my old Perfection (all cotton wick) heater, but I never had any luck with modern heaters that have the fiberglass-topped wicks. In my Perfection, I mix a gallon of Kerosene to 4 gallons of diesel and that helps it to wick better and I don't have to clean the wick very often. Don't really notice any smell with the Perfection heater, but I sure did with the fiberglass-topped ones.

[@RusticTrends]

Hey Richard I guess the old school wicks are better. If you could subscribe to my KZbin channel. That would be great. Let me know what else you find with the newer wicks

[@Jollyprez]

@@RusticTrends All-cotton wicks are not "better" - they just have different strengths and weaknesses. Main weakness is that they need more maintenance, and need to be replaced more often. Fiberglass wicks do not like dyed fuels, and require cleaner fuel. Though modern "winter" diesel is very close to kerosene, it's not completely there. I have Perfection and Aladdin heaters that use all-cotton wicks. The Perfection can handle winter diesel ok - though I add about an ounce of 91% isopropyl alcohol per tankful. The Aladdin heaters are pickier, and seem to like only kerosene. I also have a "Rainbow" heater that can take EITHER fiberglass or all-cotton wicks. I even have a oil furnace that does not use wicks and can run without electricity ( haven't tried it, yet ) and has 51,000 BTU!

[@bobjones8372]

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[@aguygoescamping]

Well now we know. Great video. Keep up the good work.

[@palangnar3588]

Good explanation, nice video .

[@RusticTrends]

Thank you If you could subscribe to my channel. That would be great

[@EdFilips]

You’ve described my experience to a tee. Not sure what the other guys are doing to make it work. But there is a lot of mention of using a 100% cotton wick. I’ve searched and I cannot find one for my particular heater. I’d like to experiment with a homemade wick made from 100% wool felt. Cut it to the same diameter and stitch or staple the edges together to create a cylinder. Seems like a simple thing to try. If anyone has experimented making their own wick please let me know. Thank you. I’m not concerned about the smell so much as I am only trying to heat my Shelterlogic Shed enough to melt the snow off, when it snows.

[@RusticTrends]

Hey Ed. One thing I have found. You can mix with half diesel and half kerosene. That will work also. I hope you have subscribed. Let me know how you make out with it

[@EdFilips]

I’m also wondering if partly why this won’t work properly is that the Air to Fuel ratio is different for diesel than it is for kerosene. AKA the stoichiometric ratio. If the heater is designed to burn kerosene at a specific rate(rate of fuel volume through the wick) the air volume would have to be correct. i don’t think the diesel can wick fast enough to burn properly. Diesel’s ratio is 14.5:1, kerosene is 15.6:1. not sure but makes sense to me. Maybe I’m overthinking but I cannot for the life of me get mine to burn properly. I’ve used alcohol, conditioner and acetone, burns for a while then flame dies down to a flickering blue ring chasing around the wick.

[@EdFilips]

I found out something fairly interesting this evening I’m still playing with mine with the diesel. I noticed that if I pressurize my heater’s fuel tank slightly, the flame size increases and starts producing more heat. I removed the tank cap to check the level, and noticed the flames grew a little higher. So I said hmm, what if I dialed my air compressor regulator down real low, and applied a bit of air to the tank what would happen. Sure enough I dialed down to about 3 psi, stuck my air blow gun into the filler hole and plugged around it the best I could with my thumb, the flames shot up and actually started making the mesh glow with no added smoke or soot. Fumes still aren’t great. Not sure of the long term effects but I’m going to create some sort of plug the size of the filler opening that will accommodate my air blow gun and inject some air for awhile see what happens.

[@Dark_Knight_USA]

​@@EdFilips< Greetings: Same problem with mine using diesel. I will attempt cleaning wick, replacing it or adding some various fuel additives and tricks I know from bring OTR driver. Diesel, propane, wood, black oil and various alternative heat options all have + and -. I figure it depends on wallet, preference, fuel availability, convenience, dwelling requirements and limitations.

[@rooferash]

What came of this? ​@@EdFilips

[@glennstevenson6242]

I tried the diesel (+ additive) too and had the same problem. Apparently diesel will only burn properly if the wick is made of cotton and not fiberglass. One day I will try and make a cotton wick for my heater.

[@RusticTrends]

Hey Glenn. Yeah I didnt know what was going to happen. I guess it didnt work. If you could subscribe to my channel.. It would help out a lot. Thanks

[@glennstevenson6242]

Subscribed, cheers for Australia.

[@RusticTrends]

@@glennstevenson6242 Thank you my friend. Always wanted to see Australia

[@bobjones8372]

Hi, A few things that might help. I have restored over a half dozen heaters, the model you have is the ONLY one I came across that stunk no matter what I tried, it seems to be the fault of that catalytic screen on top, the black carbon buildup needs to be crushed by putting wick over pipe or something and hammering, crushing with pliers or channels also works, I got it with kerosene also and diesel actually seems a little better. The line on wick is for correct installation height. I'll end by saying any other heater will give you a better all around experience using it, sorry.

[@RusticTrends]

Hey Bob. I always like the input from others. With mine I don’t get the smell. Maybe it’s the brand of wick. Also. I’m now just using K1 kerosene. I’m glad you like the video. I hope you have subscribed to my KZbin channel. Thanks

[@sandys9791]

This heater wont work with diesel unless you take the wick out all the time and smash the carbon off of it. Been there tried that. It works but is a pain and eventually beats the wick to death. Go with a kerosun moonlighter or one of its variants with a cotton wick of you want to use diesel.

[@clayevans4819]

Here in Texas kerosene is 10.87 gallon at walmart

[@RusticTrends]

Holy crap. That’s to high. Even here in New York. It’s $7. A gallon. Even that is to high. Thank you for watching my video. I hope you have subscribed to my KZbin channel. Just trying to make my KZbin family grow

[@00buck80]

In Northern Colorado it is $36 for two and a half gallons what a rip

[@RusticTrends]

@@00buck80 I have seen walmart sell the K1 for about $10 a gallon. Its in the camping section. Maybe that will help. If you could subscribe to my KZbin channel. That would mean the world to me.. .

[@reneguillemette7153]

oui au Quebec aussi mais ou trove t,on des meches de cotton ? @@00buck80

[@jonathanrobles2932]

Miles Stair's Wick Shop

[@brentsmith5647]

Brilliant video thank you

[@RusticTrends]

Thank you.

[@wemcal]

Great video… I think I’m sticking with kerosene… I can not find a all cotton with for either of my units

[@RusticTrends]

I’m glad I could help. I’m doing the same thing. Just sticking to the kerosene only. I hope you have subscribed to my KZbin channel. Just trying to make my KZbin family grow. Take care

[@michaelgibbons-us8hw]

Works very well in my KEROSUN radiant 36,,, but the other kerosuns not very well... Must be the wick that is in this KEROSUN 36 be nice if i could find another wick just like this one for the other 5 kerosuns i have.. It can tolerate the DIESEL like its PUPPY FOOD. USING NO ADDITIVES THIS OR THAT CRAP, just plain STRAIGHT DIESEL in the tank.. the kerosun 36 has the FIBERGLASS WICK.. and been doing it for several years now...

[@Jollyprez]

Some of the differences in opinion regarding diesel fuel may have to do with WHERE and WHEN the diesel was purchased. "Winter" diesel is a different formulation than "summer" diesel. Also, winter diesel blends are different depending on how far north you are and how long into the winter you purchase it. Winter diesel is "winter" because kerosene is added to it to prevent gelling in very cold weather. If you're in Texas ( normally ) they don't even HAVE winter diesel. If you're in Canada - then you do. All that said - fiberglass-wicked heaters probably aren't going to like even winter diesel, and certainly not summer diesel.

[@RajunCajun1]

How about a diesel fuel injection cleaner added to the 5 gallons to help clean yhe wick?

[@RusticTrends]

Good question. I’m not sure if it would work. I might have to try that. I’m glad you like the video. I hope you have subscribed to my KZbin channel. Take care

[@Dark_Knight_USA]

Greetings: What did U find on the injector cleaner?

[@gotanmp3]

I know this is an old video, but if you want to burn diesel for heat just get one of those Chinese fan forced heaters. Added bonus of going that route is they vent the exhaust outside, so no more stink.

[@RusticTrends]

Hey hotanmp3. You are very right on that one. I have thought about getting one. I hope you have subscribed to my KZbin channel. Just trying to make my KZbin family grow. Thank you

[@357bullfrog2]

You recon the conditioner is what caused it to smell?

[@imaslowlerner]

I use a 50/50 mix diesel and kerosene plus the alcohol and diesel treatment. So far it's working ok but I did notice that my blue flame 🔥 at the top is gone, all orange 🍊.

[@RusticTrends]

How much of the alcohol are you using. Also. I hope you have subscribed to my KZbin channel. Just trying to make my KZbin family grow

[@imaslowlerner]

@@RusticTrends : 8oz each of the alcohol and diesel treatment. IMO I think it's putting out less heat and lasting longer. I basically just use it to warm up the kitchen in the morning.

[@imaslowlerner]

@@RusticTrends : my local mom & pop hardware store is asking $78 for a 5gal kerosene, Sutherland's asking $64 so I'm getting 5gal from Tractor Supply for $49. Back in the day gas stations sold kerosene, I haven't been able to find anyone pumping kerosene.

[@imaslowlerner]

@@RusticTrends : just to let you know, I agree with you 100% for going back to kerosene. The company designed the heater to burn kerosene so using diesel and additives is definitely not healthy.

[@RusticTrends]

@@imaslowlerner One thing you can do. If you have a walmart by you. They sell the K1 Kerosine. Its a little over $10 a gl You can find it in the camping section. It comes in a white jug. I hope that saves you a few bucks. Hope you have subscribed to my channel. Take care. Feel free to write when ever you want.. If i dont hear from you. Have a good Christmas

[@trail457]

Usr #1 diesel fuel,it's basically Kerosene.Winter fuel for trucks in cold wheather.

[@RusticTrends]

Hey Trail. That I didn’t know. Thank you for that. I’ll have to try it. If you can subscribe to my KZbin channel. That would mean the world to me. Thanks for the info

[@SalHEMI-g3i]

Well done! bro ! good video

[@RusticTrends]

Thank you

[@craigjohnson3603]

I agree with you diesel stinks bad. I tried it with a salamander type heater before I got a kero. like yours and it was bad, my dog wouldn't come in the garage he would stand at the door and bark at me! Like he was saying get out of there you dumb A. 😂 Good video.

[@RusticTrends]

Hey Craig. Yes it does smell. And your dog is smart. Get out. Get out lol

[@theheaterguyryan5052]

Just use straight diesel

[@alexhuevera939]

3oz of 91% alcohol per GALLON. you did WAY LESS

[@RusticTrends]

Hey Alex. You are right on that. I’m sure I did it wrong. When you look it up on KZbin. There are so many different videos on it. But I will try that. And see it works out. I hope you have subscribed to my KZbin channel. Just trying to make my KZbin family grow

[@michaelgibbons6294]

Sounds like it is not working... You tried burning it straight without the ADDITIVE JUNK?..... i have a heater just like the one you have KEROSUN RADIANT 8 AND 36 FANCO SERIES 22, SEARS & ALADDIN TR5000 and few PERFECTIONS... dont know what is going on? I been doing it for while long time without issues... The stink comes when its doing the dry burn... Put the wick up on high LIGHT HER UP AGAIN... Looks like i am going to have to post 5 videos of my heaters doing it without issues///////

[@RusticTrends]

Don’t know what I did wrong. I used the Isopropyl Alcohol. I did have the wick up high. Maybe it’s the diesel we have out here. But I will watch your new videos on it. And figure out what I did wrong

[@RusticTrends]

I think I know what I did wrong now. I didn’t let it sit. Diesel here in New York is almost $3.00 Got to love the taxes here lol

[@michaelgibbons6294]

@@RusticTrends Once and for all throw the damn additives away.. NOTHING WRONG WITH THE DIESEL.. I see you put the old wick back in... $3.00 a gullin (onroad diesel) try to find a place that sells the OFF ROAD DIESEL (RED DYE) atleast in OHIO where i live it is cheap to live.. And the gas station here sells off road diesel.. They had kerosene at $4.39 a gullin they finally got rid of it completly and put in OFF ROAD DIESEL PUMP.. AND very cheap $2.00 a gullin.. Give it a try without the additive shit.. If it does not work this time i will get you a replacement.. The old wick, put it back in, light it up on high it should burn the RING OF TAR OFF OF IT... then let me know how it goes. the wick should be soft and not crunchy...

[@btiller44]

@@RusticTrends Update? Did letting it sit longer get it working? Did you use additives or no additives? I know Michael likes to say no additives, but you see others using it. I don't see how it could hurt to use them, but not sure if they're necessary. Kerosene here is $8 a gallon, diesel is half that and easier to find. I'm about to start using diesel in one of my dura heat 28,000 btu heaters to see what's gonna work. Happy to "dry burn" as Michael says, if necessary.

[@MarkGumm]

@@RusticTrends I saw that you were using 70% Iso alcohol. You have to use 91-99% Isop alcohol. 70% has too much water in it and will cause it to smell just like if you use year old kersene that has got water in it. You also need to dry burn it each time you use it if you are using diesel. That will keep it from getting so much carbon on top.

[@Rattlerjake1]

Turn the old wick upside down and it will work.

[@TheH454]

For those looking for wicks: milesstair - If this guy doesn't have it, nobody makes it anymore. kerosene-wicks msiwix I've ordered from all three - shipping took less then a week.

[@michaelgibbons6294]

Rustic i am going tris one last time with you. if it doesn't work its all on you. 1. First of all THROW ALL THE ALCOHAL AND DIESEL ADDITIVES SHIT OUT!!!! RUBBING ALCOHOL has water in it, 5% PUT some of in a jug of gas or diesel let it sit for a day look on the bottom, the water always goes to the bottom, and wicks do not like water PERIOD. 2. Fill your tank just enough for how long you plan on using the stupid heater. DO NOT PUTTY OUT FLAME IN MIDDLE CYCLE. 3 Let the damn heater burn itself out (DRY BURN) 4 PUT THE WICK UP ON HIGH light her up again, it may burn little or it may not.. May smoke some.. Let it burn completly out on the second light up If it doesnt work, then you are doing something wrong. i have the SAME EXACT KEROSUN heater like yours. i burned a hole barrel of DIESEL in it without issue. and as well in my other KEROSENE HEATERS. I telling you what i have learned and when the wick CRUSTS UP.. iF NOT please by all means BUY THE $6.00 WORTHLESS SHIT JET FUEL AT $6 a gullin.. However you do it. atleast its not my money i throwing away. I will continue to burn the HOME HEATING OIL (RED DYE DIESEL) at $2.00 a gullin. Second i would never would buy ONROAD DIESEL so the state dont get the damn tax for heating my house. \ I gone through atleast 150 gullins of HOME HEATING OIL without issues in the 10 kersosene heaters i have. 150 x $2.00 = 300 WORTHLESS SHIT AT $4.15 TO $6.oo gullin- 150 gullins of the worthless shit $622 150 gullins of shit at $6.00=$900.

[@Dark_Knight_USA]

What is a "gullin".

[@michaelgibbons6294]

sory rustic!!!! from a year ago it has jumped clear up to $6 for a gallon of diesel.. LOOK ON EBAY.. $27.10 FOR 1 gallon of kerosene shit its a no wonder i burn diesel fuel.. so far no problems in the kerosene heaters i have... leaving a comment in your Part 1 of kerosene heaters. $6 for diesel thats your president, making sure everything goes up in price.. $27 for a gallon of kerosene, no wonder people like me burn diesel fuel.... kerosun radiant 36, 10, 8 & the kerosun omni 105 series of kerosene heaters i have.. THEY ARE NOT KEROSENE HEATERS, THEY ARE DIESEL BURNERS. i wish people would get the name rite on these stupid things...