Kevin Durant Disagrees w/ 2k Rating & Shaq Was NEVER the BEST in the NBA | The Panel EP1

[@KBGJAY912]

That durag cutting off circulation to Ticket Brain 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Abbad1579]

😂😂

[@luiscepeda2152]

Bru he does make sense. Shaq only had one or two weapons 🤔. All the other centers had at least 3 to 4! Kobe had all the weapons...

[@voiceofreason2674]

Nah ticket has sound logic of somebody who played at a high level. But he’s got the attitude of a hater cuz he never touched the NBA even tho he was in the McDonald’s all star game the same year as bron.

[@KBGJAY912]

@@voiceofreason2674 oh that's why his hate is strong 🤣🤣🤣

[@daveyboonhower]

@@luiscepeda2152 no he doesn’t make sense cause while yes kobe had more moves and was more skilled shaqs physical dominance more than makes up for his lack of his skill compared to kobe

[@wsgzae]

What do you mean ticket 😂 “never let me get my stuff off” you talk over and interrupt. Every. Single. Person. That ever tries to rebuttal and debate you 💀

[@domthegod7775]

😂😂

[@keiglock4]

😭😭😭😭

[@snippetsonly1453]

He don’t even be listening he just be ready to rebuttal

[@xxJP805xx]

Ticket is a queen

[@Sa.Dboy7]

Bruh he just put his head down til he can talk 😂😂, I swear he don’t listen to nobody

[@KingWest_]

Ticket to be so wrong talks so much. And his Lebron hate is so strong it makes him go against his own arguments

[@christhomas1806]

Ticket really be TRIPPIN' 😂😂😂😭. He said Dominique's best co-star was Mookie Blaylock and not only was Mookie not on those 80's Hawks squads, their tenures barely overlapped. They played together in 92-93 and then Nique was traded in the middle of 93-94 😭

[@YoungShadTv]

He just be saying anything

[@talentedmrflowers]

Yikes

[@youngskyler7568]

That Ticket dude was getting cook the more time went on 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@snwlvl634]

he ain’t trippin, he jus annoyin lookin for attention. Makes me wanna mute the show when he watchin ngl

[@Obiamajoyisrmd]

Ok so he said something incorrect. What else

[@jahamilton]

I've never seen someone be as wrong and confident as Ticket is during this whole podcast.

[@SAC_0825]

You ever heard b marsh argue

[@timburnett7940]

Exactly 😂

[@mamba4ever113]

He was right the entire time

[@jahamilton]

@@mamba4ever113 If you truly think that, you lack a basic understanding of the game of basketball lmao

[@mamba4ever113]

@Jeremy Hamilton false I actually understand it at a high level. Bron and Durant is some cowards. You won't acknowledge it because you're probably okay with grown men taking shortcuts.

[@malikbranch64]

Just because someone yells doesn’t mean they always right. Like relax we the viewers hear you

[@BigSalmon13]

No way Ticket genuinely thinks that he’s the one being cut off and not being allowed to get his stuff off😂

[@ian3084]

Hol'on hol' on

[@dantewaves5305]

😂😂😂😂

[@007kazi]

Can we stop letting people get away with lies😂😂😂 shaq had multiple 40 point games before the finals in every year of their run

[@YoungShadTv]

Dudes just be tryna hype up kobe

[@SDTheGhost23]

@@YoungShadTv it was funny he was saying shit about shaq when he played for the Heat but correct me if I'm wrong. Didn't Kobe only avg around 16 points for that first finals win

[@YoungShadTv]

@@SDTheGhost23 it was 15 😂😂 if lebron had won a title averaging 15ppg in the finals ticket wouldn't even count it. You notice ticket knocks shaq, Duncan an lebron ..that shows you he a Kobe fanboy. He gloss over the fact Kobe requested a trade too cause he didn't have much to work with.

[@SDTheGhost23]

@@YoungShadTv I don't know how anyone can knock Duncan. Dude had 50+ win for 20 straight years. Very efficient and was always a top defender. Says he didnt win finals MVP everytime they won yet Kobe only has 2 with 5 chips but won't acknowledge that

[@reezi5244]

Blinded by his on animosity… goal of the game is to get buckets…

[@CharifRocka]

Ticket got that raised by a single mother energy. He's ALL EMOTION.

[@emwebb10]

Big facts

[@willthethrilloneal]

Would you say that if you were??

[@atlantabraves1529]

So you mean he’s got that being a black man energy because 80% of us are raised by single mothers

[@willthethrilloneal]

@@atlantabraves1529 TALLLK TO THIS CLOWN

[@mustafashaqur9694]

@@atlantabraves1529 80% naw that’s not true. He’s talking single mother no father in the picture at all 80% of black boys are not raised without their fathers present. That’s been debunked.

[@jayr1452]

Saying lebron on the Spurs wouldn’t win back to back is hilarious 😂😂😂😂

[@YoungShadTv]

Ticket dumb af

[@well.thy.one.]

Eh its hard to say what the chemistry would be

[@garygnu8775]

​@@well.thy.one. I made this same comment on another page. You can be the greatest but the chemistry has to match.

[@swavey4435]

He went 2/4 with one of the strongest superteams of all time

[@michaelkirschner6009]

@@swavey4435 Wade wasn't the same player with Lebron in Miami and Bosh got abused by Duncan. Lebron didn't play well in 2014 and should've won in 2011.

[@purplepacman5493]

Ticket the type of guy to give credit to one player for playing with bad teammates but kill lebron for not winning in 07. Constantly calls people for not standing on shit but my guy levitates through every debate. 🤯

[@bigdrippyy5101]

They was winning 60 games

[@Millennium00]

@@bigdrippyy5101 cuz of Lebron lol

[@bigshlongjohnny2405]

@@Millennium00 literally. When he left they became an instant lottery team for 4 years straight

[@jonnstewart2023]

@@Millennium00 but their defense was prolly the best in the league , stop tryna absolve him of all blame , to blame bfon for the loss is nasty but let's not act like he couldn't hsve played better , they essentially dared him to shoot the entire series and it paid off cuz lebron's jumper wasn't as good as it is now

[@TrollinThru]

​@@bigdrippyy5101 2009 + 2010 seasons the Cavs won 60+ games. 07 + 08 the Cavs barely got over 50 wins if they were lucky.

[@christiangoggins6797]

In 2007 lebron was literally playing 1 v 5 on offense and Tim Duncan says they guarded him with all 5 players

[@siliovice2277]

Me:SOMEONE HELP THIS DUDE!!! LBJ TRIED

[@DcDolo]

I still got the photo from 07 slam when 4 players were on Lebron in that game 3

[@haadtheevision]

He wasn't playing 1 on 5

[@vicmojica4240]

​@@haadtheevision yes he was casual

[@damariolemieux]

And people wanted him to stay on that team and “grind”

[@dantewilliams7458]

Y’all let ticket get away with saying bs y’all got to let him sit out for one episode he can’t talk basketball without bron being in his mouth again he called bron a role player once I’m convinced you keep him because he brings entertainment and energy

[@BGAnime]

I'd keep him for the reason alone

[@TheUndefeatedOfTheEast]

Magic is great but they acting like magic was leading bums to these championships. At 1 time magic had 4 number overall picks on his team (including himself). He played with and including himself the Lakers had 3 number 1 picks on that team for the majority of magics career. Imagine having steph, lebron, and any number 1 overall player at worthys level playing together. That team would make 10 finals appearances in a row too.

[@senorsavage8702]

Depends on who those number 1 picks are

[@Rileylmao_]

look at what Magic was doing in those playoff series, yes Worthy was great but Kareem was past his prime. Magic averaging 22/8/15 in the finals running everything for that team.

[@TheUndefeatedOfTheEast]

@@Rileylmao_ Kareem was not past his prime for the entirety of the 80s and even if you believe that. Kareem was still better than 85-90% of the big men during that time.

[@user-rl9cu1nt1l]

@@TheUndefeatedOfTheEast facts kareem was still one of the best big men and he played good years in the 80s james worthy literally was the best small forward in the league for 4 years he was seriously unguardable and that doesnt mention the rest of the team that had great players that were just overshadowed by greater players if we seen all these guys play separately and then together we would truly understand how great this team was and on top of that the best coaching stay and front office at the time.

[@azza9943]

Every time Ticket says "Hold up, wait a minute" I'm expecting him to break out 2 turntables and start scratching vinyls 😂😂

[@buusa]

“now watch this”😂😂😂😂

[@betweendalinesnbapodcast3733]

Couple things: Ron is a w host man 😂😂 and I peep them subscriber numbers going up 👀👀. Proud of y’all man and I like how y’all separating yaself from other podcast 💯

[@kcob66]

Ticket might be a bigger lebron hater than skip bayless

[@brando405okc]

On god he hates that man 😂😂😂

[@fredsavage7380]

A 2 and a half hour conversation amongst men about which guy they like the most. Something ain’t right about that

[@1538superman]

Aye I’m just letting it be known “ I won’t tolerate NO TICKET slander” because he’s the one that makes this podcast so entertaining 😂😂😂

[@josephsarh4193]

Bro you are not alone...lean back cus im wit u...NO TICKET DISS!!

[@josephsarh4193]

Ticket is a master chef...😂😂

[@YourPain5]

They like to say "tougher conference" but only name two teams 😂😂

[@Dmanime23]

This panel is so 🔥 all of these guys are so passionate about the game of basketball

[@Reefism]

In the Lakers/Kings 2001 Playoffs series in games 1 and 2 Shaq scored 40+ points and grabbed 20+ rebounds!

[@melvynsngltn27]

Thank you Ticket being lying 🤥 his butt off to hype up his boy Kobe. The O'neal Bryant years were my favorite years as a Lakers fan. Too many people downgrade Shaq to hype up Kobe. Both were excellent players

[@quinaroldeal9816]

Facts

[@harrisonmiranda1857]

I’d love to be in a debate with the older dudes because I feel like it would be a much enjoyable debate regardless whether we agree or disagree. The idea that people are debating Kobe or Magic as far as more impactful as a winner is insane. Lakers were always a contender even after Kareem retired.

[@alexsosick863]

The problem is that KD made that shit look too easy. If they had struggled the first year and lost then won the next two, people would be fine with the chips.

[@libanali8562]

Ticket got cooked today ngl, salute to low. Great show always

[@KillingInstinct]

Fax

[@MrKrabs-ho6gz]

I didn’t think low and ticket would stick around the way they did. I’m glad they did

[@SDTheGhost23]

Comparing Giannas beating the Phoenix Suns with Kris Middleton and Jrue Holiday to Lebron losing to the Spurs 2007 is laughable. Hell even the Dallas Mavericks in 2011 were much better than the Suns.

[@kylesandusky6342]

Thank you

[@SDTheGhost23]

@@kylesandusky6342it's funny I heard Chris Broussard say Gianna's won a championship without another superstar and LeBron hasn't. Gianna's never had to go up against teams like the Spurs, OKC and Golden State. The only team you can compare the Suns to is the Heat.

[@gpslaurel]

It’s funny how people forget how good the Dallas Mavs were. They beat out Kobe who won the year prior but, let’s run the narrative up

[@YoungShadTv]

@@SDTheGhost23 I would rather have jrue an Kris over Kyrie an love ...jrue more impactful than love an Kris better than Kyrie.

[@SDTheGhost23]

@@YoungShadTv sure but you ain't going to the finals 3 years straight so you'd be watching from home

[@Clash2008]

Funny how people call Fluent a Lebron hater, and he always replies with “why u mad it’s just facts” and then he compares Shaqs midrange to Lebrons for no reason and then smirks. You are nasty for that Lebron hate. You just wanna feed the Lebron haters for more likes and follows I get it. But man it’s childish bro

[@tashrif46]

1:49:00 well the Lakers needed that much firepower. The 76ers in the 80s had firepower, the Boston Celtics in the 80s had firepower, the Bad Boy Pistons in the late 80s had firepower. So the Showtime Lakers needed those players if they wanted to beat those teams for the championships

[@prot3g31]

He literally never listens and screams and yells to make the same points he makes ALL THE TIME

[@CharifRocka]

Dude way too emotional for me.

[@DesignzRUs]

Ticket bring up teams was injured when Steph won, but bring up no injuries when Giannis won

[@KillingInstinct]

FAX

[@domthegod7775]

Dude bias as shit

[@snippetsonly1453]

Exactly he is never consistent with his criticism at all and it’s disgusting these the Jordan fans i hate

[@mylaughingeffect3459]

Facts

[@BlackJEEZUS8]

Who was hurt when Giannis won?

[@ImJayyFr]

19:10 this is the most insane take i've heard. 100 percent incorrect. Bosh being a "Great" player on the Raptors meant nothing, the raptors weren't a competitive team. At all. Also Bosh only averaged over 20ppg one time(21.1) with the Heat along with only 7rpg... L L L L

[@querlinestsurin]

I feel like everyday ppl make things up to find ways to rank Kobe higher.... and sometimes it takes discrediting other great and its disgusting

[@austinhowser7838]

Kareem abdul jaber is seriously underated. Dude was FMVP in their third championship. Also he finsished 4th in MVP voting in the 1984-85 season. Magics first thre titles he had a top five player, Duncan never had a top five teamate at any point in his career. Plus Kareem was screwed in 1980 for FMVP. Magic is in the 6-10 range all time. Mount Rushmore Guarentees: MJ, LeBron, Kareem Players with an argument for the 4th spot: Bird, Magic, Kobe, Duncan, Russel. Personally I have Duncan. If Steph's prime last a couple more years and wins another ring he passes Magic and enters that 5-7 range.

[@tyjohnson3111]

💯

[@johnsalchak7495]

You had the first three right for the Mt.Rushmore,then completely blew it by not naming Wilt(The Record Book)Chamberlain.

[@matthewparker9802]

Lebron james is 5th

[@zcarecro]

I love educated heated debates like this

[@zcarecro]

Other than loud guy

[@garygnu8775]

Problem with this educated guys they misinterpret and sometimes get their information wrong.

[@moezilla3831]

I enjoyed the lil shine y’all gave the 76ers run in the early 80s. I think that’s always overshadowed

[@terelldavis9714]

Facts they cooked ticket, with his hypothetically if LeBron James was drafted to Spurs, a championship team with 3 Hall of famers , and a championship coach wouldn't win a finals or go to multiple finals.? LeBron James was a phenom in high school. ESPN televised his high School games. The first year in the NBA LeBron dropped like 20 points. Highly intelligent passer for his age. Like bro what the argument always was if LeBron James had a Hall of Fame coach he will be better. LeBron James has taken first year coaches and assistant coach turned head coach to finals are got them championships. imagine what would he did with pops ,,😂😂

[@xman333]

LBJ had a chance to play with Popavich when he left Miami in 2014 & when he left Cleveland in 2018. Why didn't he??? Because he doesn't want to be coached hard & held accountable.

[@dtg0342]

San Antonio was a terrible comparison Denver Clippers warriors would’ve been a better example

[@terelldavis9714]

@@xman333 hey bro it's difference between drafted and Free agency. Kawhi Leonard got the f out of San Antonio .So like Nobody wanna be Cleveland nobody doesn't want to be San Antonio.

[@Thanosdidtherighthing]

@@terelldavis9714 What part of Eric Spoelstra and Tyron Lue will both be hall of fame coaches do lebron fans not understand? Lol

[@terelldavis9714]

@@Thanosdidtherighthing Hey bro why Eric spoelstra and Tyrone Lue potentially going to be Hall of famer coaches? Because of Kawhi Leonard or Jimmy Butler 😂😂

[@tashrif46]

2:07:22 Celtics did not win back to back with Larry Bird. They went to 4 straight finals from 84-87 but never repeated

[@QuestionEverything562]

Got 2/4 in that run, only lost to Magic's Lakers twice. LeBron made 4 straight finals as well from 2011-2014, and only won 2 as well. Should have been 3 at least, LeBron has no excuses for losing to the less talented Mavericks. The mid 80s Lakers were super squads. You are right though, Ticket was wrong.

[@aaotrey106]

@@QuestionEverything562 when did we ever hear an excuse from lebron about 2011 ?

[@QuestionEverything562]

@@aaotrey106 He and his fans have an excuse for every other series he lost, but I'm just saying there is no plausible excuse for that 2011 NBA Finals meltdown. LeBron has never made an excuse for that meltdown because he and his fans have nothing they can concoct to excuse that complete surrender choke of a performance.

[@aaotrey106]

@@QuestionEverything562 or because he just hasn’t made excuses win lose or draw he competes

[@QuestionEverything562]

@@aaotrey106 But... as we know now, that is not a consistent behaviour for him. Accountability has never been LeBron's strong suit, which rubs off on his fans. Just think about every other Finals loss in his career, there is a built in excuse.

[@odizza1688]

1. Ticket is hella annoying. 2. The Spurs WON THE CHAMPIONSHIP the year LeBron was drafted. Then they won again in 05 and 07. They played up to at least the Eastern Conference Semifinals 12 out of 13 years from '03-'15. They definitely go to 7 str8 Finals if they get Lebron in '03 3. The Spurs were winning 55+ games a year for 5 out of 7 years from '89-'96. During that era in the West though, teams were LOADED. And that meant that who came out of the West was really more about the matchups. It wasn't so much that the Spurs weren't çontenders, sometimes they just ran into the one team that had their number. The proof is in the pudding. 4 out of those 7 years, San Antonio lost to the eventual Conference champion while only making it to the Conference Finals once. Western conference champs from '89-96: Portland, Lakers, Portland, Phoenix, Houston 2x, Seattle. Eastern Conference champs during that same period: Detroit, Chicago 3x, NYK, Orlando, Chicago again

[@YourPain5]

Detroit pistons won is 04

[@ericdupree8603]

Dominique over Bird? Come on Ticket, we not gone lie when everything been documented.

[@QuestionEverything562]

And Dominque had really athletically talented teams that pushed Bird's Celtics to the brink, but Bird and his boys would outsmart Dom's Hawks in the final minutes to pull out the victory.

[@frankyee-laa942]

It went from “getting whooped” to “championship contender” 😂😂😂

[@qualinteranzy7948]

Dude basically saying lebron and KD woulda been Vince Carter and that's one of the worse takes in history

[@malod]

Okay ticket I roll with you, but not on this. Honestly, if Lebron was under Pop that in itself would make him an all around totally different player in itself, let alone him playing with the players on that team….It’s Pops world or you get traded.

[@Luthieran]

"we da panel baby" iconic

[@Tonyoung55]

KD don’t have a clear hole in his game. Ratings are based on your entire game but KD was Trolling and everybody knows 2K cheat the Ratings you can literally add 1 point on any rating to certain players and there overall will jump. So many examples of that

[@garyparks8686]

Ticket said he goin be quiet after he make his point ... and he dont 😢

[@SJaxn1224]

Tickets criteria for greatness is utterly ridiculous

[@deezus4801]

I can’t even lie y’all got my work day flying

[@Kaylon965]

Ticket is seriously the person we all hate having debates with not because he’s correct but because he takes it too personally like he played pro ball guys takes are consistently mid at best 😂😭

[@jalenaustin4715]

Bro ticket is so annoying

[@tashrif46]

2:00:20 well the 80s were a different era. The Lakers needed those players to just combat the Celtics, 76ers and Pistons in the 80s who in themselves had loaded squads

[@tashrif46]

1:29:57 and 1:33:25 that LOW vs Ticket match was fire

[@bossedup3906]

Low started bms

[@bigcoop2575]

How did Lebron cheat the grind when he still had to lead in every stat category for him to win the championship ? He did on the heat and the Cavs nobody on ticket list every had to do that to win not jordan only thing he had to do is score

[@Thanosdidtherighthing]

So how did MJ win defensive player of the year and lead the league in steals 3 times if all he did was score ? How did he average 5 assists and 6 rebounds per game for his career ?

[@scottslade7468]

@@Thanosdidtherighthing He didn't have to lead in all those stats is what he's saying. Lebron had to lead in all stats to win.

[@youngskyler7568]

It was different back then owners put together good organizations good teams good coaches they really wanted to win nowadays owners just want to make money and are cool with not winning

[@Thanosdidtherighthing]

@@scottslade7468 Like when AD led the lakers in every statistical category but assists in 2019-20?

[@scottslade7468]

@@Thanosdidtherighthing A 36 yr old Lebron at the time.

[@BlackestNerd]

the KD hate from Ticket is NASSSTTTYYY 😂

[@smoothsavage2870]

What's so crazy is that Ticket used to dickride KD to spite LeBron until Giannis won in 2021.

[@domthegod7775]

ONG it is this man said Kevin McHale is better then KD then he said Vince Carter 🤦 Ticket is bugged out can't take dude seriously

[@Josh-sk5xd]

Listen I’m a huge KD fan and let me say in this Era KD has been the best player for many years tremendously skilled but Ticket is 💯on his KD take! KD went the shortcut route like Bron which hinders their legacy. Can’t compare KD/Bron with the MJ’s, Kobe’s, & 80’s 90’s players & past players & every great that endured! You can only compare KD with Bron etc because they both took the same shortcut route to win their fake rings. Now when you compare KD & Bron, KD has dominated him therefore he’s better then Bron period! KD is not top 10 neither is Bron sorry to be brutally honest. And before you bring up Bron more MVP’s etc there’s ALOT of CONTEXT behind that. That’s why Giannis(even though he’s not as skilled) & Curry are better then those guys ie KD/Bron. Giannis has the intangibles that make him greater & Curry has shown that he’s skilled enough & assassin enough(baby faced assassin) to be better then those guys… Giannis showed it in 2021 Curry has showed it in 2015 & just recently 2022…

[@joeasuncion2891]

@@Josh-sk5xd LMFAOOOO YOU SAID BRON ISNT TOP 10 LMFAOOOOOOO I CANT. MJ LITERALLY SAID HE WOULD LEAVE TO THE KNICKS AND KOBE WANTED TO BE TRADED. THEY “ENDURED” RIGHT?

[@domthegod7775]

@@Josh-sk5xd we need to stop the bias. If curry was as good as you say he is, then he should not have called KD in the first place. People bring up how KD gave up a 3-1 lead, but never mention how curry and the 73-9 warriors are the only team in NBA history to give up a 3-1 lead in the finals. If curry is this all time great why call KD why recruit him for yah team. Damn near every generation had a super team. Bill Russell had 11 hof on his team when there was only 13 from his generation. Paul Pierce,KG,Ray Allen was a super team nobody say shit. People pick and choose based on there own bias

[@buickmaninc]

Everyone Talking about Shaq this guy brings up LeBron 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 that was absolute gold had me wheezing in tears. That moment was worth every drop of ink on the writeup 😂🤣😂🤣

[@Leovold]

Ticket: "This new era of super teams nowadays, no one wants the grind. Also Ticket: "Celtics STACKED! Pistons STACKED Bulls STACKED! GO LOOK IT UP! This video alone proves that the super team concept isn't new, it's just a narrative used to hate LeBron James.

[@otismichael2583]

For some reason they think managment putting together a championship team is more honorable than players doing it themselves

[@Rishdog12256]

Lol kd out here trolling and yall being sensitive

[@hansduroseau]

All of them are losers, talking 💩 about KD

[@eabarney22]

Dude straight up called Larry bird a big man 💀💀 like he wasn’t the best small forward of all time before Lebron James arrived, I’m crying

[@grayson0916]

You could definitely argue that Bird would be playing the 4 if he played today but it is weird to call a guy a power forward who didn’t play power forward in his career lol

[@TrollinThru]

If you want to say a power forward is a big, then yes. Bird was mostly a small forward but he did play power forward as well.

[@Jordan-vo3gv]

Where’s the time stamp for the Shaq Best talk, because that title is ridiculous. Of course Shaq was the best NBA player in 2000

[@rulev3504]

Ticket is the most emotional dude iv ever witnessed..act like a big baby cryin all the damn time

[@mylaughingeffect3459]

He emotional damaged😢

[@rulev3504]

@@mylaughingeffect3459 😆😆😆

[@bossedup3906]

He the 🐐

[@robinilouga]

@@bossedup3906 he a 🤡

[@bossedup3906]

@@robinilouga if that’s what you think I fw his takes & energy 😂,

[@wsgzae]

Ticket please, you are a grown man, get the hate out your heart you weirdo

[@KerryShuler-jf5th]

He swears he right about everything 😮

[@Aubknowball17]

Fluent a Lowkey bron hater fr lol , always got slick remarks about him

[@brettthomas6327]

Somehow GOAT James always come into anything conservation even though cats say he ain't the GOAT but he stay on y'alls mind like the GOAT, LAWD have Mercy.

[@j-us-t_be-in-g]

Ticket was never saying you couldn't join other teams as a free agent. He was emphasizing that star players linking up with other star players is cheating the system because that superstar team is most likely to win it all because of the unfair superstar talent they have in comparison to other teams.

[@gorcsauce696]

Super team barely work dude they ain’t even functional cuz u don’t have depth . … litetalt super team rn isn’t the meta it’s have 1 super star and costar or another super . With hella depth to have 2 okay squads . The intl super team to work was lebron Miami and Boston . Warriors was different super team but it was plug in that easy asf Chem was the same they 73-9 and won chip year before that . The nets failed twice lakers 2012 okc attempt 2018 with melo Paul Russ . Shit doesn’t work . Dude eveytema at this point has stars league to stacked unless they as new teams to the conferences like they did in 90s which depleted the talent in squad and that when Jordan took advtange .

[@TrollinThru]

Star players wanting to play with other stars goes back to the 70s. Nothing is new here

[@jazzroyale7260]

So the Celtics did it by cheating the system and trading nothing major for Kevin freaking Garnett and Ray Allen while having Paul Pierce and drafting Rajon Rondo. But since LeBron, Wade, & Bosh came together to stop them and battle the greats in the West…they cheated the system and the sport. Ya just love to hate. Shame on Bron, Wade, Bosh for having to play the Boston Big 4, the 60 win Bulls w MVP Rose, Noah, Boozer, Deng, and the crew. The Pacers with PG, Granger, West, Hibbert, G Hill, and Lance. And that was only in their conference smh… just haters, don’t know shit about 🏀.

[@ohhJuice]

Ticket has the most flawed logic one has seen

[@lamontewilliams3011]

Dominique led his team to 50 plus wins for three straight years with very little help. Dominique dualed Larry Bird and the Boston Celtics to a 7 game series with little help. Larry Bird himself said that Dominique being left off of the top 50 was criminal. In fact Bird himself explicitly stated that Dominique is top 25.

[@ASAP_AJ]

That’s not the point. The point is at no point in time was Nique better than Bird. Period.

[@GabrielSantos-vo7ky]

I have never seen someone be so confident in themselves and so persistent on them being correct over anyone else than ticket😂😂… best part is when is starts yelling he gonna cook y’all and than proceeds to just say a bunch of inaccurate bs

[@DeBhris]

Chill got cut off so many times. But when he cut someone off he would let them talk. Half of the time he didn’t even really cut them off.

[@MO-rl9gl]

That ticket guy is too loud and dumb. Makes it hard to listen to.

[@xclusivedynastyera7741]

Low doesnt know what he talking about Bosh leaving Toronto did eliminate them as contenders because not long after DeRozen stepped up as a star and Lowry came along..... couldve been a great young nucleus.

[@scottslade7468]

Key words there mate not long after,Bosh couldn't see into the future and know what they would become. So technically he is right.

[@tashrif46]

1:57:05 thats the toughest one to me. And to be honest, you can flip a coin between Magic and Tim in terms of winning for the organisation. But I will give the slight edge to Magic because the Lakers became that global franchise with his arrival and the winning aura excellence he brought. Because before Magic, the Lakers were looked at as underachievers or choke artists at best. And that Showtime era made the Lakers into one of the greatest franchises of all sports

[@SAC_0825]

You can say the same for tim. They had no championships before he got there and the five they got is because of him. Him and the admiral put spurs on the map

[@tashrif46]

@@SAC_0825 yeah they put them on the map. But the Lakers as a franchise is on a different level than the Spurs.

[@gunny-lneck4352]

@@tashrif46 thats Because they are in LA with more stars joining them than the spurs, the spurs are looked at like broccoli while the lakers are fine cuisine. Just because 1 is more popular than the other doesn’t mean 1 is better

[@tashrif46]

@@gunny-lneck4352 well its not about glamour, its about excellence. Its about success and dominance. The prestige and the aura of the Lakers all started with the Showtime Lakers. Thats the barometer for success

[@QuestionEverything562]

I would say Magic was more impactful than Duncan overall, though Duncan has a legit case. I would pick Magic because he actually made the Lakers into a dynasty, where as Duncan never made the Spurs into a dynasty. The Spurs always kind of won in between true dynastic teams like the Bulls and Lakers. Magic won his 5 titles in a 9 year time span, took his Lakers to 9 Finals appearances in 12 seasons. Duncan needed 15 years to get his 5 titles, and went to 6 Finals in a 17 year stretch. The Spurs won 4 titles in a 9 year stretch. Tim Duncan was more consistent and more durable, but not as dominant or as impactful when it comes to winning or their respective primes. Magic was more impactful/valuable to his Lakers than Duncan was to his Spurs. It's close though when you factor in defense, but Magic's offense is a lot greater than Duncan's offense. Kobe doesn't belong in that convo of impact with neither of these guys.

[@danielburdisso1483]

Every time I watch one of these, I’m always shocked by how much dumber ticket can get, didn’t know someone could reach that level

[@Tonyoung55]

Lebron don’t play like KL. KL more of a system player Lebron would need Duncan to space the floor more to unlock LBJ full potential but that would hurt Duncan game

[@tmoore944]

So we just gonna forget about the Magic years like he couldn't shoot free throws couldn't cross you over.

[@williBwavy]

lmao ticket made zero sense about bron in the west

[@Premenyc]

Why does nobody address the main point that kd lost to GOLDENSTATE FROM UP 3-1 AND JOINED THEM 3 MONTHS LATER THATS NOT NORMAL COMPETITIVE BEHAVIOR. Thats actually disgusting to support that move like other stars are just doing that shit cause they arent

[@verbalkint3447]

The Hawks were good in the 80s. It’s just that the Celtics and Pistons were better

[@868kng]

Great podcast. Maybe add some timestamps might help

[@jonamped16]

I’m tired of Older people saying “I come from a era” we don’t care about your era times change just expect that

[@xalt00]

I love ticket and low man another fantastic episode

[@blossomsports1]

Ticket talking over a guy who actually saw shaq play like he’s a guy who actually watched shaq play

[@anythinggoesvideospart-2242]

LEBRON was only 22 years old in the 2007 FINALS

[@michaelcampfield5405]

Kobe been 22 in his first finals maybe 21 and he won 🏆 Bron first finals horrible and the second 1 horrible

[@anythinggoesvideospart-2242]

@@michaelcampfield5405 With prime BIG SHAQ DIESAL winning FMVP, & carrying him to that Title ......... And HALL OF FAME COACH Phil Jackson as well

[@gorcsauce696]

@@michaelcampfield5405 Kobe had prime Shaq 🤣🤣🤣 and gad functional orgiznation with pieces around them .

[@michaelcampfield5405]

@@anythinggoesvideospart-2242 stop go look at the hole playoffs the real games back then been was the western conference finals so the finals always been a cake walk why give the ball to kobe when nobody could gard shaq

[@michaelcampfield5405]

@@anythinggoesvideospart-2242 if it was shaq why didn't they win in 96 97 98 they didn't even 🤔 come out the west

[@mizzy412]

TICKET FORGETS KOBE WAS UP 3-1 AND LOST AS WELL

[@danteluckett3461]

Y’all gotta mute ticket more often. He NEEEEEVER stops talking bruh. Give him a time limit on his rebuttal then mute his sh*t

[@TheBrocktopus]

50 min mark.. is basketball an individual sport, or team sport? Why do we criticize players now for joining winning teams? The goal is to win 'ships, end of story! Win easy or win hard, the goal is to win! No other sport criticizes teams, so why does basketball?

[@Reefism]

What if the Lakers had drafted Dominique Wilkins with the 1st pick in 1982 instead of James Worthy?

[@ericdupree8603]

He still wouldn’t be a better player than Larry Bird.

[@Tonyoung55]

He definitely would have 5 rings

[@t-god2439]

@@ericdupree8603 the true game is between the ears

[@IknowMoreThanYou]

He'd have 5 rings. And a goat argument Since y'all like to put people with stacked decks in the GOAT convo.

[@odotmdot]

GOAT Convo as the 3rd best player on the team?

[@belakthrillby]

Y'all need some timestamps. As you guys change topics, do something to help clue the editor in so that y'all can easily get the video segmented by topic

[@dreskee8422]

Shaquille O'Neal was the next carrier of the torch after Michael Jordan. His team defeated the Chicago Bulls in that half season where Jordan wore number 45. The Orlando Magic years are when he made a name for himself, and the Los Angeles Laker years are when he secured his position as the greatest player playing basketball at that time or the best player playing basketball at that time. He is partially responsible for destroying any idea of a euro centric NBA agenda because of his style of play which is why his way of offense and defense are not popularized today by the NBA media. And if your rebuttal is Kobe Bryant was the dominant player taking the back seat......keep in mind how expendable Kobe Bryant was at that time although his bargaining power was youth.....the Lakers saw that Eddie Jones had just done what Kobe Bryant was drafted to continue. And don't forget, Kobe Bryant drafted his game after Michael Jordan. Where in contrast Shaquille O'Neal was NOT like any other force of strength anyone has ever seen outside of Wilt, and Ben Wallace (But Ben Wallace was solely built to stop players like Shaquille O'Neal) who eventually stopped him. Big men that utilize raw strength are a rare.😎

[@TheLionaaa]

I like that

[@ambientmusic-studymusic3780]

They have to stop ticket from cutting people off. Nobody can finish a point without him cutting people off.

[@logicalthinker-v5l]

That Magic vs Curry scoring topic by Chilltown is just pathetic and stats that he put were of a traditional point guard. Game is different today 🙏

[@TheUndefeatedOfTheEast]

Agreed, I can easily say how many games has magic made 8 or more 3s. Or scored 30 in 3qtrs. Having a 20 and 10 game means nothing when comparing it to curry becasue he didn't play that same way. His point would only be relevant if curry played the same way and magic was better at that style of play.

[@primedime1332]

I’m two seconds in and glad we finally got a logical guest, hello low

[@Iam2toneT]

I'm sorry but ticket honestly has low debating skills and its entertaining for the viewers but its kinda embarrassing. he never listens to understand he listens to rebuttal. I swear everytime he's on he uses the same exact talking points and its never with good logic

[@lawwinner9472]

Ticket is literally the main reason i watch this

[@Chrislittle223]

Shaq was never the best player in the NBA? 99-2000 30ppg 14Rpg 3BPG MVP Are yall smoking the Covid Vaccine?

[@ericdupree8603]

Should’ve been unanimous. Tho I also feel that way about Bird 1986, Jordan 1992, & 1996 as well as Bron 2013. Id even throw in 1968 Wilt Chamberlain

[@JohnnyTough]

Good build. All these guys were great ,including Ticket. I respect his passion for the game .

[@snippetsonly1453]

Ticket wasn’t kobe was finna demand a trade cause the lakers didn’t surround him with a team point of the matter is if ur team isn’t going to surround u with pieces u have every right to leave don’t leave how KD left 😂 up 3-1 on a 73-9 team then go to em talking u a champ now weak asf😂

[@Rob8041289]

Wasn't no finna....Kobe demanded and wanted a trade ..Ticket won't ever admit Kobe faults

[@snippetsonly1453]

@@Rob8041289 right he’s literally loud and wrong and bias like he talks about how bron didn’t win until he got in Miami but didn’t bron go the finals and conference finals with his shitty teams and Jordan was getting knocked out in the first u seen when Jordan lose he talks about the Celtics being overpowered well where that same energy for bron cause if u tha ink that 05 cavs team was finna beat that 05 spurs team u gotta be crazy

[@melvynsngltn27]

@@Rob8041289 or through the 2004 finals and quitted against the Spurs

[@dontcallmeblerd3371]

Del and Ticket are a must because they both can't dominate the mic at the same time.

[@tashrif46]

1:39:19 Magic Johnson no doubt about it. The Lakers franchise went from an underachieving franchise to an all time franchise in all of sports because of the arrival and the sustained success that Magic Johnson brought to the Lakers. He elevated to franchise

[@tashrif46]

1:43:34 Magic Johnson had no Pat Riley as the coach and Kareem Abdul Jabbar as the center when the Lakers made the finals in 91. That was first year without Pat and second year without year Kareem. Kobe had to go through 4 years to even get to the finals without Shaq and 5 years to win.

[@okcomeback123]

Magic had another hofer James worthy. Who did Kobe have when shaq left smush Parker?

[@tashrif46]

@@okcomeback123 lol whose fault was it that all those players left Kobe?

[@okcomeback123]

@@tashrif46 shaq left Kobe what other good player do those lakers teams have?

[@tashrif46]

@@okcomeback123 but that was the era of the 2000s. And the Lakers had two of the top 5 players in the league at the same time. You have to compare relative to the era. Most teams in those era had 1 or at 2 best stars on their team In the 80s, you had the Celtics, 76ers, Pistons had loaded squads. So Magic needed those weapons if they wanted a realistic chance of winning in the 80s.

[@okcomeback123]

@@tashrif46 I think Kobe had to play Steve Nash Tim Duncan dirk Kevin Garnett Yao Ming Tracy etc we’re all in west. My point is it took Kobe 5 years to win because he had nothing. Magic after Pat Kareem left still had a squad

[@goldenglovescoach9437]

🚨 🚨..How old is the kid with the Durag… Clearly he didn’t see shaq in the playoffs… Kobe NEVER averaged more than shaq in the playoffs when they won… A simple google search will tell u that ..🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️