How to create a responsive HTML table

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Kevin Powell

Kevin Powell

Күн бұрын

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@eric55099
@eric55099 28 күн бұрын
You taught me CSS and now I'm one of the best in the whole University.. Thank you Kevin
@Tsakos17
@Tsakos17 16 күн бұрын
This is a type of channel where you come thinking you know it all and by the time the video ends, you're 100 times wiser than before. Thank you very much Kevin!
@Astroplatypus
@Astroplatypus Жыл бұрын
It's probably worth including the thead and tbody. A sticky thead is great for big tables and/or small screens.
Жыл бұрын
I thought the same with the sticky thead. I think that github does it when viewen large files and it's very usefull. Also tbody tag I always asumed that browser puts it if you forget it, but maybe was just my imagination.
@mityukov
@mityukov Жыл бұрын
Arghhh... Those sticky headers are a bitch to implement. Especially, if you're table is horizontally scrollable. Would love to see a couple of decent solutions for this
@404-UsernameNotFound
@404-UsernameNotFound Жыл бұрын
table tr:first-of-type { position: sticky; top: 0; }
@daguttt
@daguttt Жыл бұрын
@@404-UsernameNotFound This doesn't work as-is
@marklnz
@marklnz Жыл бұрын
Regardless of the need for a sticky header, thead and tbody are surely the correct way to define a table semantically?
@leoschuler
@leoschuler Жыл бұрын
instead of using the data-cell attribute, I would advocate for the use of headers attribute, which accepts a space separated values of the ids of the s that describes the cell. not only it can be used in the attr() function but with a small css/javascript you could add some cool functionalities to highlights specific cells of the same headers. on complex tables, it is common to have row and column headers, even group headers for a particular set of rows and columns, for those scenarios, and are also a good addition to the table markup
@dealloc
@dealloc Жыл бұрын
Not only that but it also makes it more accessible. Data attributes and "content" properties are not accessible as they are not part of the markup. While some assistive technologies may announce content in before/after psuedo elements it's best not to rely on this because it depends on the tool and user's settings. Given that before and after are mostly used for decorative purposes, these are often disabled by default, if at all.
@wayneswildworld
@wayneswildworld Жыл бұрын
​@@deallocWhat do you mean by not accessible?
@dealloc
@dealloc Жыл бұрын
​@@wayneswildworld As in screen readers does not read data-attributes and often not decorative content on pseudo elements. They are not visible in the accessibility tree.
@wayneswildworld
@wayneswildworld Жыл бұрын
@@dealloc aaaah I understand! thanks for taking the time to respond!
@gabydewilde
@gabydewilde Жыл бұрын
@@wayneswildworld cant use the clipboard either
@orlandosfilmwerks
@orlandosfilmwerks Жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I was looking for for the last 2 years! THANK YOU!
@chriswinslow
@chriswinslow Жыл бұрын
What a fabulous tutorial on tables. I’m really grateful for this. Thanks for working your CSS magic Kevin.
@RobBulmahn
@RobBulmahn Жыл бұрын
You really should use and elements within the table around the respective sections.
@BenjaminEmm
@BenjaminEmm Жыл бұрын
Kevin providing the knowledge once again! You're a life saver sometimes with the videos you create. They always seem to come at just the right time!
@tobiasfedder1390
@tobiasfedder1390 Жыл бұрын
A video about responsive . Kevin, you are a hero. You could have mentioned the scope attribute also, but it is explained well in Adrian's blog posts. Thank you.
@joshespinoza3349
@joshespinoza3349 Жыл бұрын
just implemented this into our ticket-tracking system and people love it!
@knghtbrd
@knghtbrd Жыл бұрын
Oh THANK YOU KEVIN! I've struggled a bit with this because at some point you do just need to break the table into stacks or grids or something and the way tables work is just WEIRD. The question was what to do with it once you decide you've gotta break from table to something else, and what precisely that something else should be. Grid is obviously the solution, and while you used it to simply stack everything, you could come up with more complex layouts at a couple different screen sizes to account for e.g. desktop, tablet, and phone. I had an idea what doing this right might look like, I just needed to see the pieces assembled, so thank you for doing that!
@_LtLIGMA_
@_LtLIGMA_ Жыл бұрын
You are single handedly getting my through my Diploma. Thank god you exist my friend!
@fave1201
@fave1201 Жыл бұрын
Your solution is great. I usually use the overflow one because most of the time data presented in tables is viewed on larger devices but now that I know that it's as easy and straight forward as this, I don't have to rely on a UI framework to handle tables. Thank you.
@alvarojflores
@alvarojflores Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Kevin! You're like Joda CSS master. Be healthy and successful!
@shawnweddle3002
@shawnweddle3002 Жыл бұрын
I’m building a sports website (including F1) for my portfolio right now and I’m having a little trouble with the tables so this video is quite relevant to my interests 👍🏽
@vladimirmijatovic4171
@vladimirmijatovic4171 Жыл бұрын
Your video couldn't have arrived at a better time: I'm just finishing an API whose data needs to be displayed in a table. Your video helped me a lot. Thank you so much!
@andygordon6880
@andygordon6880 4 ай бұрын
What a brilliant tutorial. Hits the mark perfectly and easy to follow. Thank you.
@abiiranathan
@abiiranathan Жыл бұрын
WOW. This is a gold mine. Thanks a lot Kevin. Am sure you will receive a lot of love because this has been a wish for many people.
@bobwightman1054
@bobwightman1054 Жыл бұрын
A great intro to responsive tables and a lot simpler than I imagined. As for adding data-cell="column heading", I generate most of my tables either through PHP or Javascript so that's pretty easy to add to the template, in this case a JS template string: `${data[field]}` The site is multi-lingual, hence the curLang[field] item.
@soviut303
@soviut303 Жыл бұрын
Another approach that is more mobile-first is to start with a and style it with table attributes on larger screen sizes. Unfortunately, you still need a bit of extra markup to do the table heading.
@maziasty
@maziasty Жыл бұрын
Rico and Vettle real GOATs.
@musahkamara
@musahkamara Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, now I can complete my responsive table project.
@justinkeeth
@justinkeeth 2 ай бұрын
This video is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!!
@vivekkumar-pc1xy
@vivekkumar-pc1xy Жыл бұрын
Your all videos are worth to add in my youtube library for future references
@benjaminmosnier
@benjaminmosnier Жыл бұрын
I have known the era of « layout with table » too. CSS was not the same during the Jurassic !
@precisionchoker
@precisionchoker Жыл бұрын
I once had to design some email templates and I was grateful for modern CSS
@LastRoseStudios
@LastRoseStudios Жыл бұрын
@@precisionchoker That's why I avoid doing email templates
@ClaudioBrogliato
@ClaudioBrogliato Жыл бұрын
I feel you. Still a pain nowadays with email templates.
@bojancenikol
@bojancenikol Жыл бұрын
I was there Gandalf, 2000 years ago
@evanevan5096
@evanevan5096 Жыл бұрын
​@@precisionchoker😊
@StephenBolger
@StephenBolger Жыл бұрын
I have been looking for a simple approach like this. I was struggling a little with creating a responsive solution for data that was best put in a table, while keeping it accessible. I really like these solutions.
@blocSonic
@blocSonic 10 ай бұрын
Terrific ideas beyond the container overflow-x trick, which is what I have usually gone to. Thanks!
@PhilKerrigan
@PhilKerrigan Жыл бұрын
thanks so much for making this video - great solution for a responsive table.
@KelseyThornton
@KelseyThornton Жыл бұрын
Tables are the bane of modern CSS - This allows us to still use tables (for tabular data - maybe from anohter source), and still be responsive Great video!
@flashbond
@flashbond Жыл бұрын
I love the way that your brain works.
@brunoritter3486
@brunoritter3486 Жыл бұрын
As a brazilian, thank you for adding Senna!
@tarunchaudhary3958
@tarunchaudhary3958 Жыл бұрын
I like it that you choose F1. It made the video a lot more interesting 😊
@LastRoseStudios
@LastRoseStudios Жыл бұрын
Narrower viewports usually (though not always) are on mobile, which has a touch interface, and so the scrollbar at the bottom is less of an issue. Also, the thead and tbody would be good to add (browsers will probably add it in anyways, but it's better to specify it yourself so you can better troubleshoot things). For example the table headers (first row) got lumped into the tbody
@Ekitchi0
@Ekitchi0 Жыл бұрын
Also with mouse and keyboard Shift+mouse scroll scrolls horizontally
@Warface
@Warface Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@mina86
@mina86 Жыл бұрын
FYI, in HTML5 browser adds TBODY automatically. Neither THEAD nor TFOOT is added automatically. In HTML4 and older nothing is added (so TR is direct child of TABLE).
@TheTiffanyAching
@TheTiffanyAching Жыл бұрын
Holy timely, Batman! I just started looking into this yesterday.
@cedrictheveneau9141
@cedrictheveneau9141 Жыл бұрын
As someone who still does newsletters the old fashion way (coding them myself, using tables), I love the fact you’ve adresses this subject !
@Made2hack
@Made2hack Жыл бұрын
Rico "Bobby" Rosberg was undeniable, quite "suave". Definitely my favorite champion!
@mrspade404
@mrspade404 Жыл бұрын
Nice and simple explanation! Looks like a jump cut edited out the formatting of the before container width at the 20:56 mark. Things went from in-line to column formatting.
@m.neiss001
@m.neiss001 Жыл бұрын
This is absolutely amazing! Been needing this and am so glad you decided to cover it -- thank you so much!!
@nelsonnguyen2738
@nelsonnguyen2738 Жыл бұрын
Thank you alot, so simple but very effective solution.
@24Ippo
@24Ippo 11 ай бұрын
I've been struggling with CSS and every video you made has clarified every issue i have with. Now i can make decent web sites that doesn't look as they were made for Netscape
@magnoid
@magnoid 7 ай бұрын
Kevin, this is Awesome. I'm so glad I found your channel! Loving pretty much every video you put out!
@nashidmifzal79
@nashidmifzal79 Жыл бұрын
Oh man!! Responsive tables can't b more simple 😎, awesome 👍
@deniskravchuk707
@deniskravchuk707 Жыл бұрын
It's Amazing! So simple and so workable. Thank you!
@RaveKev
@RaveKev Жыл бұрын
I know this "trick" from the default OutSystems Styles. Tables behave there like this too. I'm not thaaaat happy with the table result, but i think that's all you can expect from an easy and fast responsive approach. Great that you made it public!
@sergei_sg
@sergei_sg Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Kevin! This is a great solution!
@EdwardSmith-nq9wy
@EdwardSmith-nq9wy 11 ай бұрын
This really helped me beef up my final, thank you!!
@adijain
@adijain Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, my favourite F1 driver Rico Rosberg. PS. Another awesome video Kev, keep rocking ❤️
@gamertag8721
@gamertag8721 Жыл бұрын
Make it responsive given the requirement, if you are building a B2B web app, where tables have large number of columns, and scroll horizontally even on computer screens, this might not be a solution you are looking for. Ask first, is my data a tabular data, or is it just for presentation, if it is just for presentation, then I don't think it should be a table in the first place. But I should add, that is a case study for corporations, most people won't have that, and this video is precisely what you need
@SergeiSerbulatov
@SergeiSerbulatov Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this valuable video! Kevin, it is the best solution for my project!
@nathymangaYT
@nathymangaYT Жыл бұрын
Didn't know the semantic could break with CSS. I mean, of course I knew that a display : none would eventually prevent screen readers to describe an element, but I was not aware that a display block on a table,tr,td,... element would change its semantic. Thanks a lot !
@ГаннаСалацинська
@ГаннаСалацинська Жыл бұрын
Awesome video, very helpful. The data-cell attribute approach works for me because I create tables dynamically in code.
@TobyDawes
@TobyDawes Жыл бұрын
I know this is an HTML table tutorial, but I certainly love the F1 aspect, and historically "Our Nige" is my favorite driver too!
@evil-cheetah
@evil-cheetah Жыл бұрын
Kevin, thank you for what you do! You taught us a lot for past few years! I felt in love with css and built my thinking process on how to build responsive layouts! Thank you very much! However, community demands part 2.
@pinnaclewd
@pinnaclewd Жыл бұрын
Fantastic fix for responsive table...the bain of my life!
@JoppeKroon
@JoppeKroon Жыл бұрын
Love the shout out to Adrian Roselli, he does amazing work on accessibility! On that note, I'm afraid the scrolling solution needs a little more to work properly, as Adrian also points out in "Under-engineered responsive tables". 1. It needs to be focusable otherwise you can't scroll by keyboard. Firefox does this automatically but other browsers do not. 2. It needs an accessible name so screen readers can tell the user what it is that has taken focus. 3. It needs a role so that the accessible name will be accepted.
@TKomoski
@TKomoski Жыл бұрын
I've always had problems with tables, but this helps Kevin thanks
@dreamer5959
@dreamer5959 Жыл бұрын
I never knew about using attributes in css, that's really cool
@Like_a_lion_979
@Like_a_lion_979 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Kevin! This is exactly what I needed, I left a comment on some previous video asking for this topic. Much appreciated!
@scyfox.
@scyfox. Жыл бұрын
I had the trouble of working with tables and found a nice solution. Switching were possible from rows to columns, and placing the thread rows at first
@BrianClincy
@BrianClincy Жыл бұрын
We're not using thead? I was wondering if that was part of accessibility or just declarative if your header has multiple rows?
@ghostpants8172
@ghostpants8172 Жыл бұрын
Pretty neat skill to have. You will have to work with tables at some point in your FE job if you're working for companies. Also worth to learn about how to make the sticky thead or footer when scrolling. Just another tutorial idea 😁
@luiscosta2385
@luiscosta2385 Жыл бұрын
your videos are awsome!!! learning a ton with them! Thank you kind sir
@ayodejiikujuni1233
@ayodejiikujuni1233 Жыл бұрын
Love this so much Kevin... Always had to run to grid when to deal with it.. Thank you so much
@PresidenteHollanda
@PresidenteHollanda Жыл бұрын
To me you are a CSS magician, all those commands you do out of your head. I make a lot of use of Bootstrap, but that reacts sometimes so weird. More and more i think i have to go back to basic CSS. Very good info on making a table responsive, thank you for sharing.
@homevids
@homevids Жыл бұрын
Love or hate them, tables have their place in web design. I started designing sites with tables and this was before css files existed, all styles were tagged with each element. Fun times. Back then one didn't have to worry about responsiveness so it was easy to churn websites out at a high rate.
@leoMC4384
@leoMC4384 Жыл бұрын
Great content as always. I remember that in this full stack MERN project I developed, I had to implement responsive tables as a functional reusable React component. I had like 4 or 5 tables in that website. I remember I used a base code from Codepen but I had to change several things in it as well and add others. It drove me nuts but I got it done. It was worth it. 👍
@linjianru
@linjianru Жыл бұрын
Really inspired by this video. Thanks.
@bmehder
@bmehder Жыл бұрын
You forgot the GOAT - Latifi. I actually had a tough time tackling a responsive table about a month ago. And, sometime you just gotta use a table. I just implemented this solution. Thank you for doing this video. Also, I think Fernando changed his name to Alonstroll.
@AREACREWBMX
@AREACREWBMX Жыл бұрын
Finally. This IS not a video, THIS IS THE VIDEO!
@ewomer100
@ewomer100 Жыл бұрын
When a content creator is out of touch about what type of audience he has, go back and fix that table. First, you messed up the table, then you didn't fix it, third you told us not to worry about it, but worst of all, you told us about it, NOW, that is all I'm looking at. We need you to post a video of the table fixed, thank you.
@ewomer100
@ewomer100 Жыл бұрын
Oh thank God, you fixed it at 18:15
@sthernito
@sthernito Жыл бұрын
I remember doing this for a client 10 years ago, data attributes where not a thing, but :before and after were starting to be used, it was not as clean as this but content did the work.
@wayneswildworld
@wayneswildworld Жыл бұрын
Absolutely god tier video
@Lord_zeel
@Lord_zeel Жыл бұрын
Interesting usecase for data attributes. I do question why use a script to add roles rather than add them in the HTML though? In most situations, we aren't going to write tables by hand - we have some framework running a loop over some data to generate this output. Whether it's PHP, React, Vue, we will probably only write one row and repeat it with a loop. So it's not a lot of extra work to add the role attributes too. Of course, it's pretty unfortunate that CSS would change the semantics - that seems like the wrong approach for the standard to have taken. If it's a table, it's a table. The styles shouldn't take that away, and we shouldn't be forced to add more bloat to our markup to put it back.
@securefolder4548
@securefolder4548 Жыл бұрын
Finally someone said use right element for the right purpose
@DanielKwan
@DanielKwan 7 ай бұрын
This is awesome. Shopify unfortunately does not seem to support the "content" element. Does anyone know of a workaround? I'm not looking forwarding to adding headings to every single td and then hiding them for desktop view.
@MartinProgrammer
@MartinProgrammer 5 ай бұрын
This is great, cause I am just about to create table in NextJs app that I am actually working on in my youtube channel so thanks a lot Kevin 👍
@404-UsernameNotFound
@404-UsernameNotFound Жыл бұрын
You can set up the table and all the data attributes with this emmet snippet: table>caption{The last 14 world F1 champions}+tr>th*6^tr*14>td[data-cell=name]+td[data-cell=poles]+td[data-cell=podiums]+td[data-cell=wins]+td[data-cell="career points"]+td[data-cell=championships]
@lawrencepsteele
@lawrencepsteele Жыл бұрын
Before my recent retirement, my team supported a LOT of HR-data related intranet sites where the output was tabular. We used the data-attribute method and it worked quite well. One thing with the display-grid method (which we did not use) is that it handles even narrower layouts since a single header/data element combo take up a single column, which would reduce the overflow seen around 23:55.
@glencoventon2523
@glencoventon2523 Жыл бұрын
This is awesome and very helpful. Thanks Kevin keep up the great work.
@karansawant5121
@karansawant5121 Жыл бұрын
your highness sir!❤
@LastRoseStudios
@LastRoseStudios Жыл бұрын
Someone else mentioned that data attributes are great for dealing with multiple languages, which I 100% agree with, Another good reason for that approach, vs the css version is if you have merged cells. The css version will mess things up vs the data-attribute version which won't.
@pripri-h4d
@pripri-h4d Жыл бұрын
thank you veryy much ,it's delivered at the right time ,i need it now ,thx mate
@QwDragon
@QwDragon Жыл бұрын
I hope somewhen we'll be able to use accessability attributes in css. table { role: table; display: grid; } Very simple, clear and doesn't need any scripts.
@gabrielferrin
@gabrielferrin 11 ай бұрын
Great video! Thanks!
@stephanemo2135
@stephanemo2135 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic ! A big thank-you
@SeanCassiere
@SeanCassiere Жыл бұрын
I've been using the tailwind table utility classes and tanstack-table for implementing tables and data-grids 😅... Also a big F1 fan!!!
@LuchoCbes
@LuchoCbes Жыл бұрын
hi kevin! just a comment: be careful when you hide the row header completely, remember that tables are a matrix of crossed data (columns / rows), so each row cell needs the column reference, so by hiding it, that cell loses the reference, hence the SR is not gonna announce it, even if you add the data-cell attribute the user is gonna hear it, but they are actually inside a table, so they are gonna navigate it as such, expecting the columns to be there and heard as they navigate each row cell from left to right or viceversa the best way for this to work is to override all CSS from the thead (so it's not using any spacing/colors) and use a span to wrap its content with the famous "sr-only"/"visually-hidden" class only for smaller resolutions, that way the column headers are still semantically present but not visible; then inside each cell, use another span with the column's name (also only for small resolutions) and aria-hidden="true" attr to avoid SRs. Now the SR user is going to navigate through a table and visually it's going to look like a "list" more complex, yes, but this way you are covering all type of users and assistive technologies in a more semantic way
@zoki5388
@zoki5388 8 ай бұрын
You should make video about it.
@OnlyADownstat
@OnlyADownstat Жыл бұрын
Nice one..... Not all web sites are "commercial sales" sites.. (cards etc)... some sites we create internally are for management to review preformance etc , and tables are a big part of those... tho' bootstrap does have useful utilis for these
@ThomKnepper
@ThomKnepper Жыл бұрын
This is even awesome for people that sometimes still have to use tables for, for example emails.
@historynerd6630
@historynerd6630 Жыл бұрын
great and very helpful ... as always
@RehctubNomis
@RehctubNomis Жыл бұрын
Why wouldn't you use and when creating a table? I noticed you used the for the header but not nestled in a ? Also, would it be possible to make the mobile view an accordion? So you could touch the driver name and have it drop down the stats (closing the previously opened) or would that be asking too much of css?
@churchers
@churchers Жыл бұрын
Omg, I’d almost managed to forget the days of table layout and single pixel transparent gifs everywhere
@user-mma173
@user-mma173 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin for your generous knowledge sharing. How to suggest topic(s) for your future videos?
@kleberkibe
@kleberkibe Жыл бұрын
Friend, that was great. Thanks !!!!
@tatianaagapkina8658
@tatianaagapkina8658 Жыл бұрын
This video has levelled up my approach to tables responsiveness. Thank you so much, Kevin!
@yungifez
@yungifez Жыл бұрын
I'm stealing this for my open source project
@agilkerimov
@agilkerimov Жыл бұрын
Wow, i didn't know you are into F1. That's great.
@TylerLarson
@TylerLarson Жыл бұрын
Hmm... When I started doing web design, I was *excited* about tables, because they were new and not yet widely supported. It was such a pain trying to deal with the compatibility disparity. Once bitten, we weren't going to be forced to guess about compatibility on the next major feature!! Remember ? What a solution.
@mkajiwala1
@mkajiwala1 Жыл бұрын
Superb, you are really master.
@_the_one_1
@_the_one_1 Жыл бұрын
Wow I didn't know that! Awesome! Thank you!
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