Keyboard VS Controller in 5 Racing Games

[@seP4]

Learn more about the REDMAGIC Titan 16 Pro here: bit.ly/4gwYeln (and yes, ofcourse i know about analog keyboards. watch the conclusion)

[@NobleGamer889]

This is truly one of the Daniel give me coffee moments of all time

[@gorrilaunit99]

*YOU PLAYED FORZA AGAIN! YOU'RE BACK!!* 😮

[@marianogamer6261]

​@@gorrilaunit99 you mean Whorza

[@J-STX5469]

I don't think I've ever seen you have a sponsor in any of your videos.

[@marianogamer6261]

@@J-STX5469 pretty sure he did a sponsor for a VPN before

[@trombulan]

The gamepad is better when driving RWD. It's so much fun to have throttle control in corners

[@Therealcal-SA]

I prefer keyboard when comes to pc gaming only using gamingpad on wwe, soccer.

[@Babybarschalarm]

DEFINITELY a big miss not having Trackmania here, it's probably one if not the best example for something like this.

[@seP4]

they update that game so much the video would be outdated in a month

[@Babybarschalarm]

Not really anymore, at least it's avoided as much as possible. TM2 or Nations Forever also straight up just don't update anymore anyway - still really good examples because of their deterministic physics.

[@AntimatePcCustom]

And yet people use macro inputs to limit turns so you slide less and gain speed.

[@gorlix]

​@@Babybarschalarmno

[@Obi-WanKannabis]

stadium car is great on keyboard, the other cars are TRASH

[@lukeyskywalker1251]

I find the old NFS games feel very snappy on keyboard I played carbon that way and it was surprisingly good

[@Z38_US]

Likely because older racing games don't have smooth steering for keyboard inputs. Nowadays games will gradually turn the wheels when you hit A or D instead of just being either 0% or instant 100% which is probably what makes steering feel extremely snappy and in some instances can even be of great advantage since you can go from 100% one side to 100% the other side in the blink of an eye, something very difficult to replicate on a controller.

[@eugene12310mobile]

Likely because PS2 is still very analog and Carbon was under that transition period. Most modern NFS games like Unbound kinda need you to be more precise with throttle input on the highest level, but can be played with Keyboards just fine

[@Rubdump]

I'm early, maybe a bit too early, I'll watch the video now, okay?

[@haithaaaamm]

npc ahh comment

[@Rubdump]

@@haithaaaamm Okay? That doesn't even make any sense, but whatever.

[@redcobra7707]

@@Rubdump He be speaking facts tho

[@Rubdump]

@@redcobra7707what

[@mendyshelios0451]

I played whole my life on keyboard and sometimes on a steering wheel. Played three games on dualshock. (my steam says 45+ racing games, so played a plenty) I can safely say, you can dominate easily with this "disadvantage". It is only matter of precise controling and timing. People just suck at driving, no matter the controls. I play every week NFS unbound and the worst players are... playstation. So... controls do not matter, the driver matters.

[@SpeedySpeedBoy14]

my friend (kbm) can keep up with me (G29) on Assetto Corsa in GT3 cars (other cars are too hard to handle on kbm) and in other games like Raceroom and F1 2020. I have played on all 3 at different stages of my life and controller is the most comfortable

[@JorakinHost]

I agree with this, at the end it's a matter of skill. I like to play driving games with joystick because the analog controls feels better/more immersive, but my opinion doesn't carry a lot of weight as i only play casually or until my hyperfixation runs out which happens every 4 days to a week.

[@AnekoF90]

Keyboard is better for arcade games.

[@justnobodymain]

​@@SpeedySpeedBoy14well a wheel doesn't really make you better in racing games it's just ment to make them more realistic and add a difficulty similar to real life and making it possibly more fun

[@therealbread5020]

I ABSOLUTELY AGREE with this. A top 10 drivers on the leaderboard in Dirt Rally 2.0 could be using a keyboard/controller. One of the top drivers at No Hesi in AC might be using a keyboard/controller. While someone could be at the bottom of the leaderboard while using a steering wheel. It's not the tool that matters, it's the driver that matters.

[@ToaGresh300]

12:46 They're still pushing out updates for Unbound, felt like I needed to clarify that.

[@hamdichami4636]

I really, REALLY liked this video. It kind of shows that input latency matters more in some racing games compared. I have been maining KB on racing games ever since i was 8 (played every NFS on keyboard and still do). Over time you develop skills and techniques that can compensate for the "digital nature" of keyboard (prioritizing finishing the corner early so you can focus on corner exit, early upshift to reduce wheelspin, etc..) Trying games that have 0 consideration for keyboard are much tougher. I played Gran Turismo 3 on keyboard since i was playing the game on an emulator. All the tricks and tuning weren't enough to save me from my misery. It could be doable, but it wasn't fun Also all KB mains always say that they can be faster on controller. I do it too lmao. Maybe you should try older games like ProStreet or Gran Turismo on the emulator and see if there is more of a difference

[@segsfault]

I am too poor to own a steering wheel or a controller, So on my Potato PC after playing on keyboard for so many years I can safely say that you can perform even better than an controller player, it really comes down to practice & timing and MOST IMPORTANTLY... what you're used to. Though some games tend to be very PITA on keyboard.

[@sam-sagar2011sameer-mm6yn]

BABE NEW SEPI p4 VID DROPPED

[@Kenpai_TDG]

6:10 ahhh the memoriiieeess

[@seP4]

good times

[@snfriedm]

Played racing games for years on keyboard and never got the hate, especially for someone who isn't a competitive racer like myself. Switched to a wheel last year and I will say it is way more fun and probably faster, but if I come home on a weekday night and don't feel like getting my wheel out, I'll just play on keyboard.

[@carlosfontanez9804]

An important thing to note about TCS is that TCS doesn't really function as throttle or brake control. TCS uses sensors that detects when the wheels starts to slip and then applys the brakes independently to each wheel to slow the car down. A human driver can not manually apply brakes indepently to each wheel so this will increase control and safety of car for some players but overall it can actively slow the car down by applying brakes mid corner to reduce the cars speed. It's kind of similar to ABS but the opposite, where ABS senses when the wheels lock up and stop rolling under braking and then disengages the brakes keep the wheels fom sliding. An experienced driver, without relying on ABS, and TCS, and with a gamepad, could probably get an extra 2-5 mph around the corners with proper weight management. Weight management meaning balancing the weight evenly across all 4 wheels, and effectively shifting the weight from the front and rear wheels during braking and acceleration. An example, for instance, would be when accelerating out of a corner, the driver is still turning and has the weight of the car shifted to the side, so the inside wheel is lifting off the ground and has less grip. If the driver squares up the car on exit, then both rear wheels are making good contact to the ground and the driver can use more throttle to exit the corner. With TCS on, the driver can use full throttle with bad weight management because the brake is applied to the rear inside wheel but not the outside rear wheel, potentially slowing the car down in exchange for stability.

[@Sleepkirby6472]

4:38 Wait but I thought you said you were no logner doing Forza stuff after what Turn 10 did to you in their latest Motorsport game

[@seP4]

im not coming back. just opened fh4 to do tests

[@Ts7Turbo]

I mean, it really depends on the game like you said, you can use keyboard in a racing "game" but it is practically impossible to play a racing "sim" and take a car or a bike to it's true limits with it, like on assetto corsa, iracing, an f1 or motogp game. You can still play those sims with all the assists on keyboard but i think that a controller it's much better, you will need some assist tho, mostly in the stearing cause is really awfull to use a raw steering input on a controller, but you can still drive a car without abs or tc and use one of the analogs for the clutch or e-brake for drifting. I know that using a controller for playing a racing sim isn´t the best option at all but some of us can´t afford a steering whell ither.

[@GamingPigSFS]

i play beamng on keyboard 😜(i cant drive some cars in manual because i cant do clutch control and when i want to drive casually i am spamming W so it becomes a very uncomfortable experience)

[@varyagace]

For those same reasons, digital inputs are preferred in oldschool style arcade games like bullet hell shmups and fighting games, the speed of shifting inputs and directions and the precision that you can do so is invaluable for playing those games at a high level. Also Trackmania. Most top players use keyboards on that game at the highest level speedrunning competitions. Now, like your tests with Dirt Rally showed, any game that doesn't *act like a game* with the inputs will obviously be at a disavantage with trying to translate into actual direct car controls.

[@sleier]

every day sepi uploads is a holiday in my book

[@Z38_US]

I've been a Keyboard player my whole life. When Horizon 5 came out I played it for 3 weeks with only a controller, never with a Keyboard because I tought it would be better and easier with a controller. After around 3 weeks I booted up a race and grinded a good time I was happy with for about 45-60 minutes. Then I switched to keyboard and wanted to see how close I can get to that time while also playing the game for the very first time with a Keyboard. I immediately beat my best time by several seconds. The skill gap is immense on your preferred input device and the skill between controller and Keyboard does not translate at all. You get used to using a controller but building up the skill already achieved on another device will literally take months if not years to get to the same point so I put down my controller for good and went Keyboard after that for any game I play, no issues with keeping up with controller or even wheel players (excluding racing sims, I do not play those).

[@WormyJester8]

0:13 There are keyboards that can do that by Wooting, people say they are pretty good for games like osu! or Trackmania

[@YISP7]

I grew up playing NfS3/4 on PC back in the 90's. There were no commonly available controllers back then. I'm used to KBM in any racing game but prefer controllers, as they're just more chill to play.

[@johnsalamii]

controllers are alot more comfortable imo.

[@lologannus]

Have you tried RBR RSF (Richard Burns Rally Rallysimfans)? Basically Dirt Rally but it's a 20 years modded game with 300+ stages and free to play with daily weekly or montly tournaments opened to join or private. DIrt Rally but even more hardcore.

[@seP4]

tried it but it favors the same no-life playstyle for multiplayer

[@teertaa]

isnt the rsf physics constantly updated? genuinely asking

[@RelaxSimmer]

​@@seP4no life?

[@whitenova.2658]

@@RelaxSimmer By no life he means by treating the game as a 9 to 5 job. And not playing it as intended by the developers. Rallying is not F1, repeating the same track and car combo for hundreds of hours just to get a perfect lap imo is just a waste of time and energy.

[@RelaxSimmer]

@@whitenova.2658what you're saying is bizarre to me... I what world do you have to treat dirt rally as a 9 to 5 job the fk? And in the end of the day what makes a difference what game you play if you actually having fun waht you're doing?

[@LAST_V]

Bro got his first big sponsor. Congratulations 👏

[@romie-777]

i always thought keyboard and controller were very similar in pace or that keyboard would maybe be slightly faster because of the ability to make faster steering corrections more quickly one advantage controller does have though is that you can keep partial throttle while braking, which for some cars in forza makes it much easier to trailbrake and prevents rear wheels from locking up so often

[@mitsukithesnek2607]

I use both keyboard and gamepad in racing games but I think the only game which I exclusively played on keyboard was the Colin McRae Rally 04, Idk why, but it really felt just right to use the keyboard. Midnight Club 2 is also decent with keyboard but with the difficulty spikes and rubber banding I think using gamepad for percise input is the way to go. So definitely it's a preference thing, but I will go for the pad in most racing games tbh.

[@Krenissz]

I disagree, in dirt rally you need brake control so your brakes don't lock up some stages are annoying cause you have to spam brake on keyboard I tried both inputs I use controller now. On tarmac stages keyboard performs the worst. Forza horizon is similar if you are like me and have all the assists and abs off.

[@Sammael66685]

The internet you say? The same internet who says the mafia race mission is one of the most difficult things ever made on a game?

[@oOSonicexeOo]

The mafia 1 race is definitely not easy but it’s no where near as bad as people say it is. I would argue that the driver games have some of the hardest vehicle related missions in gaming possibly.

[@DrFinft]

Yo sepi, why do you unlist most of your videos? Ive been following you for like 2 years and its happened like twice now so what's up?

[@seP4]

explained in fm23 video

[@Blurgamer17]

Arcade and Speed = KbM bias. Sim-cade and Precision = Controller bias. Simulation, Precision, and Consistency = Wheel. Lack of speed, consistency, or precision = Skill Issue.

[@autorennengaming]

Xbox controller is a lot better at racing games than the ps4. This is because of the placement of left thumbstick

[@zenksren8206]

Nah, fuck asymmetrical thumbstick layouts, I don't see how placing the left stick higher (meaning you also have to reach your thumb higher on the controller) is better

[@autorennengaming]

@@zenksren8206did my opinion hurt you so bad I have played on both consoles But Xbox is better in terms of racing. For shooter games, i prefer the dualshock.

[@autorennengaming]

@@zenksren8206did my opinion hurt you so bad I have played on both consoles But Xbox is better in terms of racing. For shooter games, i prefer the dualshock.

[@CturiX.IREALLY]

I've only been using gamepads (and that cursed thrustmaster forza wheel) for only a couple years now and it just feels more tactile playing some games with it. My brother meanwhile sticks to KBM on Forza and manages some crazy laps

[@isotoxin]

Why the rubber gloves? 🤔

[@seP4]

well i cant let my hands touch grass for real

[@nitroxidepiston2091]

The real reason I play on the keyboard is because I like to use Artyon Senna throttle technique. It's actually because I don't have controller =/

[@Carbon_]

On The Crew 2, raw gamepad steering is faster ...

[@tnhem]

this could have been more interesting with analog keyboards, because you can still get benefits of digital steering and benefit of throttle controlling with analog keys on a game like forza.

[@oOSonicexeOo]

(Long comment warning) In my opinion when it comes to racing/driving games use whatever you want. But if you’re using a keyboard and mouse on console on an online shooting game you better hope no one knows where to find you irl. Because everyone pretty much knows that keyboard and mouse is better for shooting games (unless the game has auto lock/aim) but that doesn’t mean it’s ok to use it when you know everyone else is probably using a controller. Also before someone possibly says something like *oh those controller players are just poor* or *why don’t they just buy a keyboard* you shouldn’t have to buy additional hardware to make a game fair.

[@shortcat]

That's what I've been saying for years. Even though I play on a gamepad. I have a video on my channel getting a gold medal in one of Assetto Corsa challenges without assists on a keyboard.

[@crestofhonor2349]

I used to play a lot of Dirt 2 and Dirt 3 on my MacBook keyboard before I got a controller. It wasn't too bad to play that way, however I do prefer controllers

[@shehryaarparacha990]

I think playing on controller is more fun especially on sandbox games like Forza. Also in many games to drift effectively controller is needed.

[@konosuhardbass]

You should've done Unbound instead of Heat since Unbound has a really high skill ceiling thanks to burst nos. Great video btw.

[@IPlayKindred]

I like the video but I am getting sick of the need for speed hate, I like the new games actually.

[@seP4]

in that case i would recommend a masterpiece called barro

[@IPlayKindred]

@@seP4 dude I like your vid but at some point you gotta let the nfs hate go, its a 7 out of 10, let it go.

[@bubbag3332]

this is an impossible test. doesnt matter how many times you go around there'll always be differneces

[@Metalwrath2]

Similarly, keyboard and mouse is better in Souls games, despite what majority says.

[@sebastianbelu1417]

I mean if you do well on the keyboard its all or nothing so you are just going full throttle all the time

[@septanos]

me being the psychopath that i am, i play with a keyboard, but my mouse does the steering

[@vizender]

You say that you switched between keyboard and controller often to mitigate the map knowledge. However, I have one big question about all this experience. Would you say you are more familiar with (racing with) keyboard or controller (or something else). Because as someone that started using controller first, then switched to keyboard in the last few years for playing mainly non racing games, I still go back to controller whenever I go back to racing games, because I am much more confortable and much better using a controller

[@seP4]

i'd say im comfortable enough with both

[@aaronwestley3239]

I thought this video is posted 5 years ago. Lmfaoo why not include The Crew Motorfest and NFS Unbound?

[@seP4]

watch the end of conclusion

[@t.k3579]

As someone who plays Assetto Corsa on keyboard I relate so hard to this

[@arkgaharandan5881]

Apparently project cars is horrible with controller.

[@christophertapkins7515]

You really got to make a video about the driving physics in Mafia 2, I feel it puts actual racing sims to shame

[@seP4]

already covered m1. its better than m2 at least for its time

[@Spiltdestructor]

2:20 About that... When BeamNG? It's a fantastic game tbh,I didn't find a single video about it on your channel,but you know it,will we ever get a BeamNG Video? 👀🍿 Fantastic Vid btw,in games that are more complicated like Assetto Corsa where using all throttle in a corner there is a HIGH chance you will spin out or understeer depending on FWD,AWD or RWD So I would say depends on the game,arcade games let you use 1000000% of the throttle and they wouldn't care less,your care would be stable,so I would say nah Also for steering there is input smoothing, especially for Keyboard as instead of doing wheel 0° to 40° it just gradually does it,while on controller it depends on the game,also on keyboard but most games have that if not 90% of modern games for keyboard "input smoothing" if I remember right Great vid again 🍿

[@seP4]

my old pc could barely run it, but it's an option now

[@Spiltdestructor]

​@@seP4 Well,happy to hear that 👀 Btw,I just realized that what you said is what I said,I'm now finishing the video 💀

[@haithaaaamm]

holy yap

[@Spiltdestructor]

​@@haithaaaammwat? Btw,I knew it would be a nice vid lol,I said right to say: nice vid 🍿 Love em

[@Spiltdestructor]

​@@haithaaaammif you don't want to read it just don't 🤷

[@Heneepr]

I played Dirt Rally 2.0 with only keyboard, with mouse+keyboard, with whell(G29)+handbrake(I made it) setup. My best lap time still in keyboard. Why? I dont know. But i am sure wheel use need to much hand work and pressing a key just easier and quicker. Also Dirt Rally 2.0 not that realistic i think. But i also played Assetto Corsa. My best lap time recorded in SPA with a F1 car, while using keyboard and mouse setup. People thinks playing sim games whit keyboard+mouse setup is hard but it accually isn't. Yes, maybe in top drivers need more realistic setups but still most sim games still playable with keyboard+mouse combo. I used keyboard my whole life. I think i am a good driver in keyboard. Maybe the problem is not what you are using, how you are using? Also i must say, i have a licence. I driving car in real life. In real life driving expreince very different from sim wheels. And i tried dualsense for racing games but its very hard to get used to it.

[@justnobodymain]

Well it does depend on how much practice you do

[@zenksren8206]

Watch out, that's "easy mode" according to Jordie

[@Alif_45k]

Bro have too much skill to see any deference

[@SRL72156]

We got sepi getting sponsored before gta 6💀

[@TomLehockySVK]

Indeed iRacing devs suck because they bought Monster Games and now all of their games have stopped releasing for PC. Shame.

[@mixnoty1702]

Cleaning gloves? Seriously?

[@Doryan_GMD]

WAKE TF UP SEPI FINALY UPLOADED

[@o.a]

what do you think about the latest wrc game?

[@seP4]

never played it

[@hommeboy]

Are you using bluetooth or wired controller

[@seP4]

usb dongle

[@RabbitEarsCh]

As a fighting game player who knows not much about racing games, this video echoes a lot of the same discussions we're having on that side. Theoretically using a leverless controller is optimal in some games, but in reality what matters most is having a controller that suits your preference and makes you able to stop needing to use any brain power to make sure you're hitting the right input. The advantage you gain is not going to be worth you being unhappy with a controller that doesn't suit you.

[@aussieknuckles]

Sepi even if a Keyboard is faster, controller just feels so much smoother and more enjoyable. When I was a wee fledgling though, I used to play games like midtown madness and stuff with a Keyboard and mouse… Nice Test.

[@ptrcrispy]

At least its not like the THPS games where keyboard gives you a CLEAR advantage that casual players don’t even know about

[@zaki8245]

why does sepi sound much different than before? am i missing something?

[@seP4]

yes, the voiceover disclaimer in old videos

[@zaki8245]

@@seP4 thanks for pointing out man, keep uploading i've watched some of your stuff from before and it's great!!

[@purwantiallan5089]

Using keyboards actually put players 4 seconds faster a lap.

[@ZanaGBYT]

Just so you know. Grosjean is also an F1 driver, and he is on the first spot of the game. Think of that what you will.

[@SodiumChlorideMsport]

Hello! Current gamepad DR2 and EA:WRC player here. I found that the main advantage with the gamepad (specifically Dualshock 4) is that there is proper and useful muscle memory being picked up when utilizing the triggers. What I experienced in DR2 with the gamepad on my first few hours was how instantly I was able to position the car where I want to without having to adapt to any input delay. I noticed how well it was able to input any steering lock I want it in any speed. And not only that, button binding is instantly within finger's grasp most especially gear changes and the handbrake. But going back to the point on the triggers, getting the car to weight shift and rotate using the throttle/brake is one of the best skills you can adapt when you transition to a wheel. Another big advantage is consistency. I used to do many online Clubs in different DR2 leagues and was able to compete for competitive stage times and rally wins and ultimately won 4 championships throughout against wheel players. But like you said, the overall essence of rally is consistency over unfamiliar stages. But with the controller, I'm able to dictate the fine line between risk and consistency (not perfectly, I admit). But overall, you made great points. I also want to say that the controller adaptability is *slightly* worse on EA:WRC than DR2...

[@BrokenOpus]

On controller I always use tall Kontrol Freeks for racing games, really adds a finer granularity to steering.

[@neromastic4512]

I must say that a Controller or Steering Wheel are the best option when you are Drifting in for example Forza Horizon Series The Accurate input are much needed for steering and perfect throttle to take corners sideways With a Keyboard (From my experience using both) I would make a lot of mistakes just as to how raw input the keyboard can make. Its also a lot of fun to use a Controller and kick back instead of sit straight constantly.

[@meyers0781]

8:39 i hope you aren't talking about Steamdeck, because SteamOS is merely based on Arch (but modified in a way to be user friendly for Steam users). 12:42 ah yes remappable controls... even the PS2 NFS games doesn't have it and it's annoying! In GT4 and Tokyo Xtreme Racer 3 (made by a semi-indie company Genki that recently announced their return) i can remap accel to R2 and brake to L2 so my thumb doesn't hurt... Also part 2 please! Want to hear your opinion on Assetto Corsa - the only racing game where i tweak multiple settings so i can keyboard my way

[@estermind135]

WRC is more unforgiving than hell so this comparison could be better if you use a game from this franchise than Dirt rally 2.0

[@Rockport1911]

Ive always been a keyboard racer, never had any analog controls, just tappy-tap-tap through the corners. Great for Arcade games, not so great for sims that reward some precise throttle control. Driving assists can help tho. Ive pretty much accepted that I will never win GT4s´Mission 34 when playing it with keyboard on PCSX2, or I just suck at it dont know :)

[@Burnout_Kustoms]

Ok 70% of people who use the controller just slam the inputs to the point where you’re doing the same thing as you would a keyboard. Saying that, I still prefer a controller because it’s an easier layout to use for me.

[@SteveBrandon]

Whatever slight speed advantages a keyboard might (and I suppose the first PC racing games I owned, Test Drive II: The Duel, Test Drive III: The Passion, and Vette, I did have to play on keyboard since we didn't have a joystick for the IBM PS/2 I played them on), I think I'm going to continue playing racing games with an old XBox 360 controller due to it being less awkward. (I know the "best" way to play is with a wheel but I don't really have the space for one.) The main racing game I play on PC is Forza Horizon 4 anyway so it's good to know that I'm not really at much of a disadvantage playing with an XBox 360 pad (and I mostly only play single-player at medium difficulty so I already know that I wouldn't be remotely competitive with the world's best players).

[@TheDunai]

Most of the time I prefer wheel because I drive sporty already (i mean irl), but there are games that are made with controller being your first choice. In Forza Motorsport 7 the smoothening your imputs makes the biggest difference (or just adds to the mix: Driving a wheel at lower speeds even makes your car feel like you are playing on an icy road, while controller makes it like you’re driving an F1 car. I tested it on multiple tracks and cars (none of them being close to an F1 car in downforce), and wheel is just shit in FM7. I played FM5 with a wheel on the most hardvore settings and that was actually driveable, you wouldn’t lose grip at lower speeds compared to a controller, but not being forgoving of you make a real mistake. So yes, it very much depends on the game! Although I still prefer wheel over anything, Force feedback is something I miss so much, being able to somewhat feel the car just like irl. It’s not the same ofc but it gives you something.

[@eriksera2901]

I play nearly all car games with keyboard with good or perfect level. (Except newer F1 games from 2022, Forza Horizon games. Yes I played Dirt Rally with keyboard and it took me a few hours to get used to it.)

[@tharimoose]

I have 1800 + hours in Forza Horizon 5 & havee been playing all those hours on a keyboard with only ABS on. I usually beat seasonal online players but not open or custom players. I have a series X controller but I could never get used to it, I am sure I will be able to get used to it if I keep using it but I don't want to. I play ETS 2 & Casual console ports on the controller.

[@Geen-jv6ck]

We'll hopefully have hall-effect keyboards bridge the 'variable input' gap between keyboards and controllers. We just need future racing PC games to support them.

[@burdyneo5701]

For me a game like nfs franchise that has sim-cade psychics kinda better with keyboard.But not for nfs 2015.Especially.nfs heat and unbound the steering kinda quick to turn

[@R0ZZAY]

This is very interesting however I think not having an analog rapid trigger keyboard like the Razer Huntsman V3 Pro or Wooting to compare to the controller is a major missed opportunity.

[@Imagine.Breaker]

I would love a video of you giving out recommended controller settings/assists for these (and maybe more) racing game's Like the tip about lowering down brake power to 95% on forza horizon Games like dirt rally 1/2 give you so much control but I'm always at a loss of which settings I should change

[@alieffauzanrizky7202]

I've been racing on many sim racing comps both offline and online for 2 years and also just an avid oldschool racing games lover especially old need for speed. Your point at 7:59 is 100% why i can enjoy both arcade and sim without any hate on one of them. Some games are so forgiving on their physics that it's so fun to play even with keyboard. And usually they add another game mechanic in order to add another skill point to improve willing of replayability like burnout's slidy drift mechanic, unbound's super fun but actually tricky burst nitro that's basically a slingshot machine, and the classic old need for speed "speedbreaker" . Funny thing is i know a few people on the community that hss been sim racing with mouwe and keyboard combo and somehow is 10% faster than everyone else.

[@hrznn]

We competitively grinded NFS World (now Nightriderz) on a keyboard with my friend. For a year, we held a good chunk of track records in any car class, except the highest one (which was rigged for no-lifes grinding rare parts). That was on a regular hall-effect Apex Pro keyboard, but since than, it got a rapid trigger update, which made it more enjoyable than a gamepad. I'm currently enjoying CarX Street with it. But what I realize, is that racing games should give me some real world experience, which is why I'm currently investing into a VR sim rig.

[@prohunter717]

I would like to see some sims like Assetto Corsa or ACC, Richard Burns Rally, Live For Speed. Also F1 would be interesting to see.

[@rashad4566]

I've always been using keyboard for racing games my entire life, none of my friends understand how I could play racing games so well, I never understood how they couldn't.

[@PlanesWithHotas]

Because of this whole Controller vs Keyboard thing, I decided to just buy a racing wheel and oh boy am I glad I did that, I love seeing my friends suffer while I'm chillin in DR2

[@zZiL341yRj736]

Keyboa.....wha...wha...what? There's only one thing you should use M&KB on and it's shooters.

[@robertlichon8861]

Love some deep life thoughts at the end. I'm playing on keyboard because I tried to switch to controller but I don't enjoy it and most importantly my hands simply hurt after 15 minutes. General shape of controllers is so bad for me. And still I'm better than anyone I know who uses a controller so I'm happy.

[@Franklin_Johanessan]

I find for arcade racers, keyboard is better, being able to instantly change your direction. For anti-grav, controller definitely. Haven't played many sims to know enough for them

[@tyrantz1424]

Man I can't even finish a stage with RWDs even after 40 hrs of playtime and mf did it in 20

[@teengamer7]

The man, The myth, The legend SEPIIIII HAS POSTED!! TODAY'S A GOOD DAY 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥

[@KeravnosPrime]

midnight club 2 had raw steering on pc keyboard a bug i assume but it allowed for fish tailing for crazy speed

[@yurilopes420]

right at the start of the video you're wrong I KNOW most people that play racing games on controller don't do it cause it's faster, it's cause it's more fun and relatable... but go off

[@madarao_201]

So it''s not just me who thinks Keyboard is a far more enjoyable choice for NFS and Forza and can't seem to go back to controller

[@fruitycoconut]

Idk who's saying racing game is better with a controller, but that simply stupid and I never heard that. Then you'll need a wheel to be better than a controller ? Then a 1000 bucks wheel to be better than an entry level wheel ? Then a 10k setup to be better... Etc until the end of time. Some people are even playing with their feet. All it matters is your skill

[@attilahorvath4325]

You should try Live for Speed if you haven't already, arguably the best racing simulator. Game is old, but still alive.

[@Dkm337]

Thing with game pad is you are already doing 0 to 1 inputs when in turns. with keyboard one will do multiple input and it has a press frequency while on game pad you can sort of do half way of 1. i prefer to play Sim games on gamepads while racing are more fun on keyboards.

[@Maximus0451]

I guess that explains how my friend on keyboard can do pretty well in NFS. Also damn bro you don’t have wish NFS was dead lol

[@Xenzif]

One - important - aspect is missing form the comparison: the joy of driving with a wheel. It is so much more immersive, feeling every bumps of the road, every reaction of the car to the surface, it makes the whole experience more alive and memorable - at least for me.

[@Sirphatsorn]

In dirt rally I use Y for accelerate T for breaking A to turn left D to turn right E to shift up Q to shift down and it's really easy to use try this❤

[@Anakin.Skywalker44]

While yes, keyboard is better than controller from a competitive standpoint controllers and especially racing wheels are way more fun than keyboards so i would recommend controller or wheel to any racing game player who isn't playing an arcade game competitively since simulators are better on wheel even from competitive standpoint

[@Zabloing1555]

I think more games should have a built in gyroscope support, i've been playing like that for about 500hrs on ac an honestly its pretty solid and i have mostly no problem keeping up with wheel players, gyro steering is still too underated tho.