Are These The Best New Keycaps? Drop DCX

[@Keybored]

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[@wyfyj]

Also the drop link malformed

[@Keybored]

@@wyfyj Fixed! It was missing a letter haha

[@reddawn87]

Ah has the code run out already?

[@MrSkullhead0]

I can hear a big difference on the alphas for DCX being deeper. But on the normal typing test it is almost indistinguishable. I really like this! If they do introduce some well known designers to make sets for them. This will be huge

[@ivovass195]

Yes please, more and decent competition to Gmk without crazy prices and multiple years delivery times. Very nice and very detailed comparison, well done

[@MatthewEncina]

As always, thanks for doing what you do Scott!

[@Keybored]

My pleasure! I thought it was worthwhile to let people know that we don't have to die by GMK all the time haha. I realized how ridiculous it was when I told myself that I couldn't move because I have GMK GB stuff coming to this address...

[@MatthewEncina]

@@Keybored the thought of “not moving because of gb” has also crossed my mind. 😅

[@keebsta]

The most thorough keycaps review I've seen, ever. Thanks for always pushing out quality videos such as these Sincerely, A newbie keeb hobbyist

[@Keybored]

:) I appreciate it! I hope the video is helpful to show the similarities and differences of GMK and DCX

[@tetley3737]

Legends look good, except the Shif t key (space intended). Not sure why so many non-GMK legends have this extra spacing on the 't' in shift, but it's something I noticed and now I cannot unnotice it. Great vid as always!

[@anhex.5747]

A computer renders the characters by many points, and takes the edges as the points closest to the left or right. Hence, the edges of the horizontal parts of the f and t are the ends of the characters, and as the vertical parts are further away they seem like they have an extra spacing.

[@tetley3737]

@@anhex.5747 Thanks for the reply Anhe. I figured that was the case between the f and t with many sets, but GMK (and some other doubleshot manufacturers, including some pbt sets i own) compensate for this and make the spacing look normal/correct. GMK has done this for years. Other manufacturers should do this as well. The spacing just looks wrong.

[@JiDonMySoul]

I honestly think this is the best keyboard channel on KZbin. The attention to detail here is second to none. Love the work you do on this channel ❤️

[@Keybored]

Thank you so much Don! I really appreciate it!

[@MarcoCarag]

Finally got through a rough work week to catch up on this. Really great overview! Regarding telling us more than we probably want to know about keycaps -- absolutely not! I heard everything I needed to hear! If anything, I'd love to see comparisons to even more varieties, like the EPBTs you showed, or Domikey. I'm glad there's another solid Cherry profile competitor out there. Personally, I'm only into double shot ABS for the colors. In my collection, PBT is my favorite for feel and sound. But overall, the scene is a lot more competitive than it was a year ago, and that's great to see! More options are great for us consumers!

[@ValidAsian]

For some reason many key sets have the “t” in “Shift” be just a bit too far from the “f” and these key caps also have it. Would like them to fix that because it’s one of those things that once you see it, you can’t unsee it :(

[@wearetotallymid]

These keycaps sound really interesting, I would buy them if they had some more interesting designs. The question with custom designs is, will there be an option for novelties? 🤔

[@Keybored]

I really hope so. When I spoke to Drop about this before, that's what they told me. Essentially, they want to create a similar process where artists can create original designs with DCX as the foundation, as they currently do with GMK

[@Fleshlight_Reviewer]

Novelties are so tacky

[@zivens.2407]

@@Keybored I'm really happy to hear this! I love novelties when they're well designed and I'd love to be able to get a set in under a year wait time.

[@wearetotallymid]

@@Fleshlight_Reviewer I think they add some personality to a board. Just dont use too much off them, then I'll agree with you haha

[@Zara-ub7hc]

@@Fleshlight_Reviewer well depends. also a preference in of its own.

[@darkdealproductions]

I love how you had a hugely informative title for the first few hours and had to change it to something more general so the algorithm can pick it up 😅. Thanks as always!

[@Keybored]

I know... It was dying very quick haha

[@cognosis378]

DCX sounds great - a little deeper, a little cleaner. The mods sound more consistent. I can dig it. I'm waiting for my KAM Superuser to come in.

[@mrfranco91]

Definitely this is a really good alternative to the long wait from GMK that is currently happening. I ordered a DCX set when they were launched, so I paid a bit less and after watching this video I'm more than happy of preordering. Thanks for the review!

[@Stoic_Cat_]

Think the challenge DCX face is variety of designs. Else i would actually consider this alternative. Nice to see some competition

[@YzorYzor]

In my country -- customers have a chance to get GMK (on GB or extras) through local/regional vendors. DCX is Drop Exclusive which means Shipping from US + insane Customs charges. GMK is still a better option if you can get it through a regional vendor (which has a business import license with incredibly low import fees).

[@Keybored]

Hey, if GMK is local, then more power to you! I wish they were around local here in the states too!

[@ploppen3872]

damn ur lucky. where is that?

[@kreativeGG]

@@ploppen3872 europe

[@Clackbait]

Very comprehensive take on th DCX. I love the legends on them. Aweome job as usual my friend.

[@snakeplissken5969]

Interesting, nearLucid's review stated they didn't have north facing interference. I've seen this before where the paper test says there is interference, but in use they don't. Guess I'll have to find out when I get my hands on them

[@Keybored]

They Def have interference with full 4mm switches. You can feel the top housing hit the cap and feels very odd

[@teseglet]

I bought some DCX WoB based on a lot of reviews that they are a legit GMK contender. After a number of weeks of hard use my observation is the become super smooth and hard. I know it is all about preference, but I prefer a worn in GMK set of key caps vs. worn in DCX set. They have a very different feel. GMK feel more comfortable and "soft". Maybe they absorb switch vibration better?

[@kkenny]

Thanks for also mentioning the shine factor of the keycaps. I haven't seen a lot of youtubers address that part.

[@jimmyt9283]

Happy to see the community gear towards more affordable options while keeping quality control in mind. Great to see you again, Scott!

[@Keybored]

I hope one day, keycaps will be under $50 haha

[@jimmyt9283]

@@Keybored One can only dream, maybe it will occur after this current recession

[@realhashbrown]

The first time I ordered a GMK set was the Modern Dolch V1 GB. When they showed up at my doorstep, I forgot that I had ordered them a year and 3 months prior. Only GMK sets I have are the GMK Led Zep and the Modern Dolch V1. I'm excited for Drop's offerings in this space. I haven't purchased a keeb since my DKON1687. Purchased a White Fox off someone before this but messed up the board since it was my first time soldering. Great vid as usual!

[@CaptnKrksNippls]

Interesting, I've seen some others say DCX does not have north facing interference in their testing.

[@Keybored]

If you use a full 4mm travel switch like the C3 Tangies, they definitely interfere! You can actually feel the cap hit the fat part of the switch pretty prominently. If you use a long pole switch, or a 3.5mm travel switch, they don't allow the cap to go all the way down to the switch top housing, so no interference. The same is said for GMK caps. For example, Gat Box Inks, Oil Kings, etc. do not interfere in north facing with GMK or other similar cherry profile caps!

[@blithecoffee100]

the title earlier was different, which matched up this scene here 0:17 he talks about the title but it still kinda fits

[@Deschain19]

Thanks Scott for the great in depth review of these keycaps. It is great that there are more options out there for caps. Love GMK but DCX as a viable option as they expand sets will be a Godsend. Keep up the awesome work. On a side note, showed your videos to a total non-mech keyboard user and he was completely impressed with your intros. He applauded your humor and creativity.

[@bradwilliams6767]

Thank-you, I was hoping someone would get there hands on a set of these. I ordered these in the hope I would be getting a good crisp WoB. I'm not disappointed. Drop have a bad habit of giving us renders on their website. This was a great comparison test.

[@testinprod]

This is exactly the comparison I was hoping for. Amazing video as always! Thank you!

[@Keybored]

Thank you so much! I appreciate the support!

[@mosk11tto]

Apparentaly gmk are not doubleshot, this is from mito: "In fact, GMK keycaps are not actually doubleshot, they are built with a technique called insert molding which is what you see underneath (an encapsulated “jail” of sorts)" Upon realising this, I can say I buy gmk for their sweet insert molded caps haha.

[@dogacel]

When you mention “premium keycaps” you only considered “ABS” plastic. Is there a reason why you don’t compare them with pbt? They don’t have the shining problem and currently much more accessible.

[@Keybored]

Just comparing to "premium ABS" in this review. I feel the 2 are somewhat different in that they do have different strengths and weaknesses. PBT does have a much higher resilience against shine, but they also do have some issues with spacebar warp, etc. PBT also tends to sound a bit dryer and denser (which might be good also) while ABS (good thick ABS, not cheap stuff) sounds more "glassy." At the end of the day, it's all about preference, and for sure there are both premium ABS and PBT!

[@dogacel]

@@Keybored thanks! I do not own any abs keycaps so I did not know about this difference. I have some pbt sets none has spacebar wraps (I heard they became much better) but I totally get how you described the sound signature. I think especially the spacebar sound is very different between pbt and abs. I feel like pbt spacebara are much more harder to make sound good.

[@YzorYzor]

CRP is the most premium PBT keycaps but good luck getting those LOL

[@minhduybui7676]

@@YzorYzor yeah they’re sometimes pricier than gmk

[@ImOnMy116]

Hey Scott, loved the OG Top Gear shoutout, I’ve always kind of assumed you were a car guy based on some of the references you’ve made in your videos. The budget Porsche challenge is my personal favorite episode, seeing Jeremy constantly breaking down in that 928 killed me! Enjoyed the video on the whole as well, if Drop ever comes out with a red on black set, I’d buy it!

[@Keybored]

Def! The OG top gear is where it's at! The US spinoff was awful! I really hope drop brings out more colorways with designers!

[@nickthaskater]

Really wish they'd just gone with a low-profile MT3 and stuck with the original MT2 name. Would have been a far more interesting entry into the market.

[@Caution40404]

12:38 the north-facing issue is not an issue for longer stem pole switches. Long poles also feel snappier! Have never gone back to the regular 4.0mm travel switches which feel too deep and delayed for me as I bottom-out after each press. Wonderful content as always!

[@Keybored]

Yup! Long pole switches work with most cherry profile caps with no issues. Thanks!

[@LewisToh]

say no to drama!

[@Keybored]

No more drama!

[@MarbsMusic]

I've been pretty happy with the DCX caps I have and they definitely sound deeper on individual keys but overall the sound was quite similar when typing. The key to me would be how quickly I can get them for a build and if the price is less as well that's a win/win. Great review as always!

[@andytypes8271]

i got this video recommendation because i googled if ebpt worth spending over $100 bucks for. I'm a GMK fan but DCX is as close as i've ever used. Their legend a little more sharp but i still prefer the sound of GMK, but i don't think anyone would notice off hand unless you've only used GMK for years.

[@leicaman]

I like the typography of the DCX font better than the GMK. Including the subtle difference in placement.

[@thedanielmak]

If any KZbin video convinces me to hop into a DCX set, this is it, chief.

[@Keybored]

Haha, more than convince, I was hoping to inform. Whether you decide to buy or not, totally up to you!

[@omritzadok1909]

Hey Scott thanks for all the great reviews:) love your work! the highest quality of content is here and made by you. thank you

[@Keybored]

Thank you so much! I really appreciate the support and the kind words!

[@stickanimations4611]

Scott you should really try out akko keycaps. They make very good quality pbt double shot keycaps

[@JCH979]

Looks like I found what my next set's gonna be. Thanks for the thorough review.

[@Duderus]

YES. My favorite, most thorough reviewer ever! I’m always so excited to hear your take on these things.

[@johnkessenich]

I'm super excited that DROP is willing to work with designers to create sets that will be available closer to 4 months rather than 2 years (and will likely be more consistently stocked if DROP's other sets indicate). As these seem to be a very high quality alternative to GMK in a familiar profile, I hope that we will get to see designers utilize it and get official designs/colorways similar to what Cannon Keys has done with NicePBT. Appreciate the thorough review as I was very skeptical about this release, however, this seems like a really good option!

[@Keybored]

I really hope the word gets out to designers and artists to hop on it! Would love to see more keycap options that I can grab in a reasonable time. I mean I have to make content around keyboards, and all the time I think... what keycaps can I put on this. And then I have to scour the internet looking for in-stocks... it sucks.

[@nikopic]

The problem with Drop is that historically, they have a tendency to eventually screw over their designers by abusing their IP. If a designer ever chooses to work with drop, they have to do so with the knowledge that they'll eventually be screwed over by drop's corporate overlords

[@realandrisbiedrins]

@@Keybored I don't think many respected or known designers will touch DROP after what matt3o went through. They're a shameful company.

[@CMRock-xx8wx]

10:33 what wristrest are you using?

[@bradyvilhauer4445]

Keybored: “I probably covered more than you want to know” Every viewer: “I’m only here because of how much you cover”

[@kenguru_kbd]

Really nice video! I love the content at your channel and the production quality is actually top notch! Great job. And youre absolutely true about Top Gear 😆

[@dude9237]

Is the height difference between GMK's cherry profile and the DCX profile noticeable when gaming/typing? I'm trying to stay away from taller keycaps but if it's practically the same, I'd give the DCX caps a try

[@nickn3234]

Your videos are the sciencey wikipage for the keyboard hobby!

[@BlazinWolfz]

“And now the modifiers” *they sound virtually the same* Well I guess I can order sets of DCX since that GMK wait is not fun. Great video the depth for everything is so nice to have as a consumer!

[@SpaNkeee]

I mean you went into heavy detail and im thankful for that, but I already was sold on DCX when you said 4 months. Im not paying 200€+ (especially when oyu need ISO/int sets aswell) for some plastic and THEN still need to wait 2 or even more years. I might not even like that colorway in two years from now. GMK dug its own grave. I just hope drop starts including ISO-DE/ES/FR/NORDIC sets with their new DCX keycap sets which would make me buy them instantly.

[@franknuggets5295]

Screw the keycaps…what board plate and switches did you use in that build?! Sounds amazing

[@ProtomanZ]

Also in EU there is like a 20% tax on imported goods and import rights which totals to about the same as a gmk set. But at least the turn around time is better.

[@Keybored]

Fair point!

[@_din1ght616]

pls help,i’m searching for the switch that is gonna have similar sound like ink blacks have but smoother)

[@FleyEnder]

What kind of keyboard are you using here? What is your favorite mechanical keyboard for gaming? I ordered some DCX Camillo key caps and am trying to figure out what keyboard is best overal. rgb would be nice

[@tbang9094]

Very cool, and plans to do a similar video on WS keycaps?

[@TheDeadb3ar]

My White on Black DCX keycaps started shining after about 2 months. Mostly around the most used areas like WASD. They feel noticeably slicker and don't have the nice texture anymore :(

[@hmattenb7054]

gmk is also made in germany and not produced by childern ( jk ) in china you also have to take this in your prospectiv this deffenetly adds to gmk manufacturing costs, however grate vid like always, keep up the good work (-:

[@Magmachu]

Hey, do you have a review on the osume keycaps that you used on the qk65? It sounded great in the videos!

[@Bobfans]

How about monokei wob series 1, compare to these two, what do you recommend?

[@namenloserflo]

Will there be different keyboard layout options in the future or is it only ansi qwerty?

[@mirzaiscandle]

the dcx's sound signature caught my attention

[@F0XdIE67]

I could have listened to that sound test for ages... Was so good. Definitely notice the deeper thock on the DCX set. Also, the legends, the casting quality, and the textures just look better too. I mean, overall visually and audibly I prefer the DCX set over the GMK set.

[@spencerpluger2451]

This was such a great review. Thank you!!

[@illegitimate0]

I can't imagine paying a premium for ABS keycaps. PBT is SO much nicer to type with, more durable, and won't shine.

[@Silvragon]

this sounds good! Anyway, what wrist rest are you using?

[@Speedygi81]

I am liking the DCX keycaps more just on sound alone.

[@CodeXCDM]

Pardon the ignorance, but what is the issue about north facing?

[@crayanashraf516]

Holy shit dcx sounds deeper. A dream come true

[@plasmadanny]

Thanks for the review, I can't wait to pick them up!

[@Keybored]

Definitely worthwhile. I am actually grabbing a bunch of the BOW and Wob for future builds... can't have enough of the staple colorways

[@plasmadanny]

I hope they do a teal colorway

[@darksoul.880]

Personally I would go with the DCX in my ears they sound a lot deeper and a little bit kind of thocky? Idk. I just like the sound more.

[@alexp3577]

Great video! Are there any differences in the tone of the black color when comparing DCX and GMK? Which one do you think matches better with an adonized black case? Could you do a similar review of PBDFans WoB? I was thinking of buying DCX WoB and then saw that KBDFans also did a new WoB set for a similar price as DCX.

[@mister_octopus]

Any idea how these compare to Cannon Key's CXA profile?

[@ozhuenlxbouginsrirluhnbrtw2266]

Would gat oil kings work with 1.6mm thick keycaps on a north facing board

[@arethas6537]

Gateron Oil Kings use a new top housing mold that enables north-facing compatibility. Check out his Oil Kings review for more insight

[@F0RB1D3N-CKRET]

Hey man do u basically know what mod make keyboard poppy?

[@chrisdotdash5154]

Definitely going to pick up the WOB kit.

[@shynnsup8383]

Guys whats the keyboard at 1:42 ?

[@MrFreeze79]

DCX for the win :) more base to those strokes love it

[@ghost-type]

Always nice to have option.

[@hello-vv4vi]

Scott: 30% less for gmk like sets from drop me: finally I can buy good keycaps also me: realizing they are still 90 bucks and im broke as hell

[@Keybored]

One day... One day keycaps will be cheap... I hope!

[@JeroenFallsUp]

Me in Europe: Has to pay 30% extra for taxes and duties

[@hello-vv4vi]

@@JeroenFallsUp same I have to pay 80 dollars for shipping

[@thestreamreader]

What about compared to the nicepbt from CannonKeys?

[@MrSkullface]

Hello! I love all your videos. I had a video suggestion that could use your science brain, I am having trouble with all the types of lubes out there and what they are best used for and why. Could that be something you cover? When I listen to other youtubers they just go with the tried and true method but then seeing stuff like the Gazzew method with his custom lube I am now lost as to what could be the best for certain switches. Anyhow thanks and keep up the good work and have a great day.

[@BigWhiteCloud]

Cool! Hope they’ll repair that awkward spacing between f and t on the shift button that you preferred not to show 😂, but that’s my literally only complaint about this. The sound is amazing, as well as the video 👍

[@clownd2]

the reason it sits higher is because with the deeper scoop, the stem of the cap is lower, this is how they achieve no north facing conflict.

[@Keybored]

But it has north facing interference haha. With the tangies and aquakings, Def feel some annoying interference for sure

[@Genjokoan]

Disclaimer: Since I finally quit on my 30 plus year old Cherries, plastic Logitechs and Apple "magic" keyboards about a year ago I have bought five Drops, no six and held my nose as I passed on the sea of other brands. So yes, I like Drop. Well, some not all Drop. Yea, not all ... given that all of the PCBs I have use north facing LEDs, why would they design keycaps with a ready-made bunch of haters who live to whine about north facing fetishes? Okay, so the early opinions seem to be that the DCX hardware is pretty good ... I maybe will order a WoB set to give them a try. Thanks for the good information. 👍

[@b69u]

How’s the shine now?

[@dico8199]

Not the biggest fan of Drop but these caps are actually good

[@Keybored]

Yeah, they have had some issues with previous activities no doubt. I didn't want to get into any of the drama stuff, but just show what these caps are about :) Honestly, drama aside, they are like 99% GMK lol

[@64BBernard]

Are there any issues with fitment as some people had with MT3 keycaps on the Keychron Q1?

[@Keybored]

Nope! I tried it on a few keyboards (including ones with a square ESC cutout) and no issues. Basically, if GMK fits, this will also

[@PoguliPogalu]

what a great review! I love how in depth you went! the legends on DCX seems really sharp and the sound is great too, alphas seems a tad bit thockier than GMK, I feel like there isnt much difference in the mods but the spacebar is a tad bit clackier than GMK, that makes it really interesting!

[@jiyumasudk]

2 years later and here's the big question.. How is the shine looking like on the DCX caps? If you've used them that is

[@MS-pd2yo]

Stellar reviewing method as usual, uncle Keybored

[@Keybored]

Haha, thank you!

[@BSEUNHIR]

The legend on the delete key though....

[@imsorry7590]

Thank you for the review. Would you say the price to quality ratio is better than GMK?

[@Keybored]

I would say that. Honestly, for WOB and BOW, I don't really see the need to buy GMK for me. It's just more money for not much more gain.

[@j7a7m77]

Bro that grip you have on the thumbnail and the pic itself looks like you’re being forced to act like you like it at gunpoint😂😂

[@Keybored]

The Hope75 weighs in at like 7.5lbs... this was tough trying to smile and hold this thing up with my fingers... painful

[@obietobi]

They're nice just hope they can release more designs

[@LEK]

Unfortunately no full ISO support. Why bother making all ISO keys but forgetting the hash/tilde key next to ISO enter?

[@Keybored]

Oooh I should check to see what's included in this set

[@LEK]

@@Keybored Yeah its really just one single key missing for full ISO :( EU Boys never getting love from drop

[@Keybored]

@@LEK I should try building a ISO board

[@blayses3116]

Great video! Thankfully I somehow got my hands on some osume keycaps cause of you but I'm excited to see what colors they bring out in the future. Also, do you plan on doing a setup tour? I would be glad to watch it

[@Keybored]

The osume keycaps look awesome! Still have it on my QK65! I really hope Drop is able to work with designers and get more DCX options out! Will think about the setup tour!

[@kalle3940]

The caps do sound and look really good. I was looking at them when Drop announced them but noticed they, at least then, didn't have any ISO-international caps, which is a shame. :( I hope they add ISO+international support later on. Very nice and in depth video! :)

[@Keybored]

I hope so too! So many have mentioned this, so I'll bring it up to Drop!

[@lucas_vlanc]

can you also review the Shurikey Hanzo SRK keycaps? Shurikey is a sub brand of Varmilo, and the keycaps are also double shot ABS cherry profile, so I would love to know how their quality stacks up to this

[@Keybored]

Oooh that is interesting. Will have to look into them!

[@Poesjuh]

Perhaps redo this video but with a keyboard that's not build with PE foam? While there is some noticable difference in the soundtest between the two, all I hear is pe foam. Would be worth to hear some difference in for example a more classic top mounted board that's not stuffed to the brink.

[@DJaquithFL]

My priorities: Looks > Feel > Sound

[@DJaquithFL]

GMK .. based on your tests sounds a hell of a lot better than DCX.

[@Trickshotter]

I find it hilarious how Drop both sells DCX and GMK white on black. As if someone is gonna choose GMK now XD

[@foundlost5583]

Professor Scott, can you educate us more on keycaps? Great job!

[@Keybored]

:) Thank you! I hope the video is informative to the differences/similarities... I just want more options Vs. waiting years for my GMK...