Khajiit Blood Butterfly Pea Mead!

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City Steading Brews

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@Kettengruppe653
@Kettengruppe653 Жыл бұрын
Brian, THWACK YOUR PACKET!!!!
@edwardcunningham6315
@edwardcunningham6315 Жыл бұрын
Let Brian Thwack his packet, I'll laugh along 🤣. I have damage to my hands, if I tried, the package may end up across the room 😁🤣👍
@travisgrimforge
@travisgrimforge Жыл бұрын
THWACK THE PACKET BRIAN! I have a new recipe to try now. This looks awesome
@AdamFranklin500
@AdamFranklin500 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this recipe, im super happy about it. It does seems like Butterfly Pea Flower general is a tricksy hobbitsis for stalls. Love the colour change. Over the moon with the score so thank you. Glad i could share this awesomeness with two awesome people.
@CitySteadingBrews
@CitySteadingBrews Жыл бұрын
With this and The Franklin, you might have to keep feeding us recipes! ;) In all seriousness we really appreciate you and all you do for the channel (and us)!
@AdamFranklin500
@AdamFranklin500 Жыл бұрын
@@CitySteadingBrews Thank you, love being a part of this amazing community you’ve built. I am 100% up for feeding you new recipes. I have a few up my sleeve. A couple i want to try to replicate, some that need slight adjustments and others that are good to go
@annahoriatis5619
@annahoriatis5619 Жыл бұрын
Home depot or Lowes has paint straining bags (a 2 pack) for approx $4. They are fine mesh, elastic mouth for draping over carboy, and different sizes. Work awesomely.
@piercedupdude
@piercedupdude Жыл бұрын
I make a Hydromel (keg'd and carb'd) with orange blossom honey. It had an imitation grape (grape candy) flavor. Did a little researching and it seems that imitation grape can be produced by Orange Blossom!! To help link brain to flavor, I added 15 grams of butterfly pea tea flower to a 5gal fermenter for secondary. Its a beautiful purple, carbonated, and tastes like grape soda =D I call it "That purple stuff"
@elricthebald870
@elricthebald870 Жыл бұрын
After seeing *Babish Culinary Universe* cook with Butterfly Pea about a week and a half ago I looked into it for it's amazing blue colour. How awesome would it be to make a vibrant blue mead without artificial colours. And then I learned about Butterfly Pea's pH sensitivity: pH 1-3 (red), 4-5 (colourless), 6-7 (blue), 8-9 (yellow).
@drewb207
@drewb207 Жыл бұрын
Great video guys. Remember to THWACK THE PACKET, but don't POP YOUR BUNG! LOL. I use soup socks for fruit and spice additions.
@AnArchyzAch
@AnArchyzAch Жыл бұрын
Butterfly Pea Tea is dope! I've used it in my homeschooling lesson for my daughter. 🦋 💙💜
@MichaelBB1
@MichaelBB1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the conversion you made, it really helps the European viewers. Keep up the good content!
@thegayfrogs8031
@thegayfrogs8031 Жыл бұрын
First! Oo, this looks amazing! So glad this showed up in my notifications 🥰
@alexcan669
@alexcan669 Жыл бұрын
I’ve never used butterfly pea in any brew. That color looks beautiful great job guys
@johnrobinson3905
@johnrobinson3905 Жыл бұрын
I have yet to brew anything - though I've tried it before - but after finding your channel and watching quite a few of your videos, I think I'll give it a go. Next year. It's nearly winter here in sunny England. BTW, you two are just lovely!!
@BCbiker36
@BCbiker36 Жыл бұрын
Don’t wait till next year. Next year turns into next year turns into I just started my first batch 7 next years later. ADD is a real A hole.
@matthiasperez829
@matthiasperez829 11 ай бұрын
20:46 was hilarious! I JUST ORDER MY MEAD KIT AND EVERYTHING I NEED FOR XMESS I CANT WAIT TO START MAKING MY FIRST MEAD!!!
@GeorgeSmyth
@GeorgeSmyth Жыл бұрын
Absolutely correct with Safale S-04 - I just finished a brew with it and it came to 13.3% using the 131.25 multiplier.
@mikemuzzell5167
@mikemuzzell5167 Жыл бұрын
The handle of the measuring cup picked up the blue and reds of the cups if ppl looked closely. And I love the Bob Ross shirt. 🤙. I also would love to see Derekica do an episode of her favourite fermentable. Favourite bag is one that works.
@colinmacvicar2507
@colinmacvicar2507 Жыл бұрын
A little tip for pouring your sample back in. Take the ball off of your baster and use it as a funnel. You can put the end right in your brew so it won’t splash and if you’re careful it will hardly disturb the lees. PS. Always thwack your packet.
@markwendt3496
@markwendt3496 Жыл бұрын
I have only made one mead that had things that required a bag, but I used a LD Carlson brand nylon mesh bag (fine mesh in my case). It worked well for the spices I added to the brew.
@juliaharbeck774
@juliaharbeck774 Жыл бұрын
I love using Butterfly pea tea. fun end results.
@mykilpee
@mykilpee Жыл бұрын
Finally doing this!!!! FYI pee flower is great for airlock joy... starsan makes it pink!
@robertsullivan3970
@robertsullivan3970 Жыл бұрын
I love this format where you guys don't have any idea what's going on 😂 really fun!!
@wescrum1582
@wescrum1582 Жыл бұрын
I always get excited about a Soylent green reference!
@b9brutality
@b9brutality Жыл бұрын
Rainbow braids!?!?! That's like a braid upgrade! Love the mead, putting this on my list to make.
@WagonPat88
@WagonPat88 Жыл бұрын
You guys are my favorite youtube brewers! Thanks for all the informative contents you two do. I tried making the honningbrew mead from the ES cookbook and it was a complete disaster. If you ever get a chance I'd love to see your take on it.
@jessbrakeman6987
@jessbrakeman6987 Жыл бұрын
I tried some of the pea tea to make wine and bottled a month ago. My wife loved it.
@tech-reaver8457
@tech-reaver8457 Жыл бұрын
You a gamer too bro!!! Love these people.
@Skulltap
@Skulltap Жыл бұрын
Look for cider/fruit press bags. They are typically 200-250 microns vs the usual 80 microns on a nut milk bag. You could still end up with the same result though depending on the fruit used in the bag. One trick you can use is to add the bag to the bowl then the fruit to the bag before adding to the fermenter. Just hold the bowl over the fermenter when transferring the bag in to keep any drips in either the bowl or the fermenter. Any remaining juice can simply be poured in. You could even use bowl with a pour spout or the big dawg pyrex measuring cup depending on how much fruit you use.
@NoahNobody
@NoahNobody Жыл бұрын
I recently finished making a liquor from Juneberries using the method from your limoncello recipe. It's awesome!
@brettmcgaw6833
@brettmcgaw6833 Жыл бұрын
Hi guys! Really love the fantasy inspired meads and wines. I'm also a really big fan of the alien movies and wonder what you guys would come up with for a xenomorph inspired mead or wine. You guys are amazing!!!!
@phoff5850
@phoff5850 Жыл бұрын
I used your patented folding technique on a bag of tortilla chips and it was airtight enough that I blew out the bottom of the bag. Will only be using it on low volume packages from now on
@MervynL
@MervynL Жыл бұрын
Hi. I use the mesh bags we have in supermarkets to replace plastic bags for fruit and vegetables! They work brilliantly and are drawstring. Oh I'm in the CZ.
@julietardos5044
@julietardos5044 Жыл бұрын
I use the same, from Trader Joe's. They work well for brewing.
@Drajika
@Drajika Жыл бұрын
i made a blueberry mead with butterfly pea powder!! it was beautiful purple during prime fermentation! now after 4 and a half week and first gravity reading is done its acually more red :D! thinking about adding more butterfly pea powder in one bottle later when i know its done fermenting :D!!!
@Drajika
@Drajika Жыл бұрын
OG = 1.113. FG = 1.022
@bostonelijah
@bostonelijah Жыл бұрын
You guys got a crazy beautiful color!
@jimbojones9665
@jimbojones9665 Жыл бұрын
The final color reminds me of purple Christmas lights. Looks purple at first, but a light shining through turns it almost pink.
@joshuaapt6417
@joshuaapt6417 Жыл бұрын
Been making wine and mead with butterfly pea tea for years. It tastes great 👍. Left a comment on one of your video's about my recipe a month back.
@generrosity
@generrosity Жыл бұрын
Knowing how it changes, do you ever get a blue wine/mead out of it? If so, what party trick do you add to get people while drinking it?
@joshuaapt6417
@joshuaapt6417 Жыл бұрын
@@generrosity I usually don't add much of anything to it because it changes the the ph level, which changes the color. When someone wants to taste it (everyone loves it),I usually add a tsp of lemon juice per glass and it turns from a blue to a bright purple almost lilac color.
@joshuaapt6417
@joshuaapt6417 Жыл бұрын
@@generrosity I usually steep 10 tea bags per qt, 4 times per gallon and add desired sugar till the gravity I want. Usually comes out in the 1.100 range and goes completely dry with no backsweeting and maintains a sweet flavor.
@CarlPapa88
@CarlPapa88 Жыл бұрын
What is the flavor of just the butterfly pea tea on its own?
@generrosity
@generrosity Жыл бұрын
@@CarlPapa88 very weakly 'green plant' if made like any other flower tea - it's all colour 😆
@amedaius8492
@amedaius8492 Жыл бұрын
20:00 no lie, this here should be a relationship goal. Also the reason relationships with (much) older or younger people usually don't work. Understanding each other even to the point of recognizing whatever reference and finishing the sentence for each other. More important than you might think!
@TheWonderwy
@TheWonderwy Жыл бұрын
This was another fun video. Thanks guys!
@CitySteadingBrews
@CitySteadingBrews Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching!
@kevinkever
@kevinkever Жыл бұрын
most of the time when back sweetening mead, i go with honey since this is also your first sugar source with fermenting
@scotscottscottt
@scotscottscottt Жыл бұрын
Title alone makes this your best video of all time haha
@davidgaylord2952
@davidgaylord2952 Жыл бұрын
I would recommend using grain steeping bags that you would use for beer making
@sniktripn7217
@sniktripn7217 Жыл бұрын
Just made this one and it is really nice Il be enjoying it tonight for sure thanks for the recipe guys
@CitySteadingBrews
@CitySteadingBrews Жыл бұрын
Glad you like it!
@xucaen
@xucaen Жыл бұрын
This is a great video. Thank you!! Afterwards I'm going to look through your channel to see if you've already made videos on starter equipment, things I would need to buy if I want to start doing this at home. Thank you so much for this channel! ✌️💛🍷
@TheVonhollan
@TheVonhollan Жыл бұрын
I have been buying cheese cloth from the real deals store $1.25. 100% bleached cotton and 1.5 square yards. Leave it double this lay it in glass bowl then ad fruit to defrost. fold it tie it with butchers twine that i also paid $1.25 at the same store, put in the fermenter and dump the excess juice. trim with sizers after tied before putting in the fermenter. I prob should have said that in the last run on sentence!
@Friedbrain11
@Friedbrain11 Жыл бұрын
That color is great! That sounds like something I would love.
@crapsforlife3023
@crapsforlife3023 10 ай бұрын
The best bags I have found is at home depot. they are paint strainers, you can get them in a two pack for a couple of bucks. they come in 1 gal or 5 gal size and they have elastic tops. they sink to the bottom of fermenter every time. Thanks for the videos and keep on brewing.
@CitySteadingBrews
@CitySteadingBrews 10 ай бұрын
Not sure those are food safe though.
@edwardcunningham6315
@edwardcunningham6315 Жыл бұрын
I picked up a few large (24cup) coffee filters. I'll be trying one in my upcoming coffee wine recipe to hold coarse coffee beans. I wonder also about the breathability of the material 👍❤️
@hammelbreu2059
@hammelbreu2059 Жыл бұрын
Nice. Thanks for the video and thanks to Adam for the recipe ❤
@CitySteadingBrews
@CitySteadingBrews Жыл бұрын
Yes! Thanks to Adam for another fantastic recipe! And thank YOU for watching!
@tombrabant7097
@tombrabant7097 Жыл бұрын
I use paint bags from Home Depot they work great and are easy to wash
@OdaFluff
@OdaFluff Жыл бұрын
That actually sounds really good!
@basicems24
@basicems24 Жыл бұрын
Schrodinger's mead. If you don't take a gravity reading is it done?
@CitySteadingBrews
@CitySteadingBrews Жыл бұрын
LOL
@_Gart_
@_Gart_ Жыл бұрын
I had this same thing happen with my viking blood mead. Forgot to account for the tart cherry syrup sugar content. It was at almost 12% and the gravity was still so high that it tasted like cough syrup. Restarted it with champagne yeast to get a little more sugar out and still had to dilute it with dry mead. Lessons learned.
@marshaross4255
@marshaross4255 Жыл бұрын
Loooooove the shirts especially the DND ones.
@jonathanmiller2701
@jonathanmiller2701 Жыл бұрын
Love your guy's videos! Gonna have to try this one sometime, great content. You guys make it easier to learn how to brew
@ELECTROB01
@ELECTROB01 Жыл бұрын
i love you guys channel so much and I am going to start making my own mead soon :)
@Ditzy_Kitty
@Ditzy_Kitty Жыл бұрын
I love your videos! The color to this mead was so cool! I'm wondering have you guys ever tried making Blaand a milk mead I'm so curious. It might be my next project but I would love your guy's input or a video on it🤩 🥛🍯🤔
@Markus__B
@Markus__B Жыл бұрын
If you´re looking for brewbag alternatives, i use a hop-spider. i found one that just fits the opening of my big mouth fermenters. the closed top is keeping everything fully submerged.
@CitySteadingBrews
@CitySteadingBrews Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion!
@DeathbyNoob15
@DeathbyNoob15 Жыл бұрын
So I actually just did a very similar mead that was blueberry honey, butterfly pea blossom and hibiscus (I made a tea with the gallon of water using 0.5 oz each of hibiscus and butterfly pea), lemon peel, and 3lbs of blueberries. I did blueberries in primary and not in secondary, however, and instead of backsweetening with sugar I used maple syrup and additional wildflower honey. It’s pretty good, but I’m definitely curious about what the differences between our brews are.
@blondequijote
@blondequijote 11 ай бұрын
I really like the idea of backsweetening with maple syrup.
@blondequijote
@blondequijote 11 ай бұрын
Update for preliminary taste testing of Brays one month mead fermented dry and backsweetened with approx 2 tsp maple syrup in 8 iz glass: While I tasted and enjoyed the maple syrup flavor on the backend, I noticed improved mouthfeel more than the sugar in the syrup.
@Sunseahl
@Sunseahl Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of how you two made the Klingon Bloodwine.
@lukeshedid650
@lukeshedid650 Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of Araq. It’s a traditional Arabic drink. It’s clear as water until you dilute it, then it turns white like milk. I’d love a video on how to make an araqi-mel. That’s be so cool if it turns white when you dilute.
@sniktripn7217
@sniktripn7217 2 ай бұрын
I done this last year or the year before and it was a hit so I'm doing it again to fight all I need to do is go buy a lemon for the zest but it will also help my lemon and ginger mead I have aswell as I can add some more fruit and root to that brew aswell winning also a side note I found out tonight that lemon, ginger and a few mint leaves is an almost equal to juniper berries as my lemon and ginger brew tastes like a straight juniper brew
@trentwalters
@trentwalters Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love hibiscus especially in a wine but the tea is awesome and love the color this is my next mead
@trentwalters
@trentwalters Жыл бұрын
Btw Thwack your Packet Brian
@elricthebald870
@elricthebald870 Жыл бұрын
Made an hibiscus/cinnamon liquor some time ago. Amazing colour and taste.
@trentwalters
@trentwalters Жыл бұрын
Just started this mead today like an hour ago, I added a little more honey and I added the EC1118 for hopefully no stall I love the color
@Skydaughter256
@Skydaughter256 Жыл бұрын
THWACK YOUR PACKET!!!! XD This looks amazing! I have to add this to my To-Do list and bump it up pretty close to the top!
@peak2782
@peak2782 Жыл бұрын
I use the mesh bags sold in the grocery store for vegetables.
@hotsauce1646
@hotsauce1646 Жыл бұрын
This one is on the list to make
@lbdhoyte
@lbdhoyte Жыл бұрын
for small amounts, like the blueberries, I would probably use a large hop sock.
@elricthebald870
@elricthebald870 Жыл бұрын
Same here. Got a few, and they can easily contain an entire kilo of fruit.
@dawnteskey3259
@dawnteskey3259 Жыл бұрын
That looks amazing!
@ravenone9128
@ravenone9128 Жыл бұрын
I realize this is several months old now, and perhaps you have already found a good solution to the "bag issue"... BUT! in case you haven't, My wife had some brand new mesh laundry bags that are of varying sizes... I may or may not have reallocated a good medium/small bag (sanitized of course) and it appears to be working well! Caveat: I just started making mead and wine a couple months ago... so I... DON'T know what I'm doing... but so far it's working well, for whatever that's worth!
@sonofnox607
@sonofnox607 Жыл бұрын
for smaller amounts I use rumble jars, they are made for cold brew coffee but work fine to strain out solids and for larger amounts can just use several of them.
@CitySteadingBrews
@CitySteadingBrews Жыл бұрын
Yes! We have used rumble jars many times before! Great for dry ingredients that you want to steep in brew.
@TheTarotBard
@TheTarotBard Жыл бұрын
Ive been waiting for this
@louiel8711
@louiel8711 Жыл бұрын
Try using a full packet of s-04 yeast for mead and do it like a step feed, beer yeast doesn't really like low PH must. Great video as always.
@benway23
@benway23 Жыл бұрын
As far as bags to hold fruit and stuff I have always just used cheesecloth. But I am a cheap bastard. Thank you for your work.
@brianarnett1563
@brianarnett1563 Жыл бұрын
I'm new to all of this but this is cool and can't wait to make my own meads
@weoutsidewiddit
@weoutsidewiddit 9 ай бұрын
Mass Hysteria !!
@dennisn.8137
@dennisn.8137 Жыл бұрын
Hey guys, love your videos. Can you tell me in which of your last videos you talked about batch pasteurization?
@rachellemazar7374
@rachellemazar7374 Жыл бұрын
My husband loves having m laugh a your videos😅 This one is very entertaining with the color change and jokes
@CitySteadingBrews
@CitySteadingBrews Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@gcourtjr
@gcourtjr Жыл бұрын
Hi Brian, slightly off topic, but what basic mead recipe do you think is both the best tasting (in your opinion of course), and takes the least time to be happily drinkable? Thanks.
@DeathbyNoob15
@DeathbyNoob15 Жыл бұрын
If my math is right, then according to that 1.7lbs per 1000 gal measurement, the conversion should be about 1/8 teaspoon (specifically ~0.1307 teaspoons) of yeast hulls for 1 gallon.
@CarlPapa88
@CarlPapa88 Жыл бұрын
Don't know if it's just me, so I figured I'd bring it up. I noticed you remove your bung/airlock the same "tilt & wiggle" way I do. ...I've snapped the stem off 3 of the S-type airlocks that way. Anyone else? Oh! Awesome color btw. Another ingredient I gotta order me some of now. Haha
@nomadjon4465
@nomadjon4465 Жыл бұрын
THWACK YOUR PACKET BRIAN!!! , but in all seriousness looks amazing great video.
@timothynaquin8899
@timothynaquin8899 Жыл бұрын
HE DIDN'T THWAK THE PACKET.... NOOOOOOOO
@Backdaft94
@Backdaft94 Жыл бұрын
I use the LD Carlson mesh bags, since I make alot of fruit wines. Can't believe B didn't thawk his packet!!!
@MarkTheNewf
@MarkTheNewf Жыл бұрын
Nice. I make a mead using hot peppers from our garden along withe the butterfly pea flowers. It's initially blue but the acidity (I assume the honey) makes it turn purple. I named it "Purple Nerpal". I'd hoped that it would have stayed light blue. The plan was to freeze-concentrate it and call it my Romulan Ale....nope. No worries!
@Amy_the_Lizard
@Amy_the_Lizard Жыл бұрын
Maybe it'd turn blue again if you added a touch of baking soda to make it more alkaline?
@James-hp3rg
@James-hp3rg Жыл бұрын
That colour is as mad as a bag of spiders 😳 Adding to my future brews, cheers !!
@eddavanleemputten9232
@eddavanleemputten9232 Жыл бұрын
Now I’m going to have to check out the availability and price of butterfly pea flowers. LOL!
@caterack8875
@caterack8875 Жыл бұрын
my favorite bags to use are: SUNPRO, Brew In A Bag. 2 pack (22'' x26'') i believe they sell smaller ones as well. anyway, loved this video!! It was awesome!!!!
@JoeSteffy1932
@JoeSteffy1932 5 ай бұрын
I like brew socks, for hop additions. About the size of a tube sock but made from a cheese cloth material and with a draw string. 🍻
@CitySteadingBrews
@CitySteadingBrews 5 ай бұрын
We have small cheesecloth bags, same concept.
@mitsujunkusha3026
@mitsujunkusha3026 Жыл бұрын
Thats unfortunate the 04 stuck but they are a bit finicky. Brian I have a question, Ive made three batches of the triple berry mead. First batch lasted about six months, It turned out pretty good The second batch maybe nine months a little smother everyone loves it. This last batch I managed to leave alone for eighteen months smooth as silk wonderful aroma, You have called it a bitter note on the back end, I call it a Bite it is very distracting and disappointing. So I've started a batch using safale 05 to see if the lower alcohol will take that bite away. My question is, do you have any recommendations to remove or reduce that bitter note . Thanks
@dfitzger
@dfitzger Жыл бұрын
Come up to the Homebrew shop in Dunedin sometime, we have some nice nylon bags with drawstrings that are perfect for wine making. I use them all the time for my gallon batches
@CitySteadingBrews
@CitySteadingBrews Жыл бұрын
David! Which shop is yours? We are planning to come tomorrow!
@dfitzger
@dfitzger Жыл бұрын
@@CitySteadingBrews Vetterbrew Homebrew Supply! Close by Countryside Mall right off 580
@kurtgreen1040
@kurtgreen1040 Жыл бұрын
Magic Mead
@rattlesnakz9716
@rattlesnakz9716 Жыл бұрын
Hey, loving the videos ATM, on a binge session for a few days, Just wondering if you have ever thought about making a type of honey beverage called braggot, I would be very interested to see that
@CitySteadingBrews
@CitySteadingBrews Жыл бұрын
We did that! 🤓 kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJqWkKKHjdasf5o
@bostonelijah
@bostonelijah Жыл бұрын
I didn’t use hibiscus tea and I used orange blossom honey and I got a crazy gray color! Insane lol
@dylanfeltz5587
@dylanfeltz5587 Жыл бұрын
You switched to whole batch pasteurization? Like you do it before you bottle the wine/mead?
@johnnytoy5487
@johnnytoy5487 Жыл бұрын
Small delicate garment wash bag.
@ahviper5871
@ahviper5871 Жыл бұрын
Have you used bee pollen as yeast nutrients? Thanks.
@David-we3sb
@David-we3sb Жыл бұрын
Great video! Been going through a bunch of em and enjoying them. What would have happened if you added the 1/2 c sugar at the beginning must, before the yeast? Still new to all of this
@CitySteadingBrews
@CitySteadingBrews Жыл бұрын
It might have fermented it out, or could stall due to stressed yeast.
@trudyhoffmann6405
@trudyhoffmann6405 Жыл бұрын
I have hibiscus powder, what do you think would be a good amount?
@edwardcunningham6315
@edwardcunningham6315 Жыл бұрын
The blue reminds me of RASPBERRIES 😁
@juglore
@juglore Жыл бұрын
you iphone flashlight blocks uv it is part of the red eye reduction effect. so using it to illuminate a purple color can get odd effects
@hondatuner5156
@hondatuner5156 Жыл бұрын
It took several hours to deal with, but i got 30 gallons of fresh pomegranate juice.... lets get to brewing!
@rednecksniper4715
@rednecksniper4715 Жыл бұрын
Maybe try using 1/4lb of Marichino cherries with the blueberries for sweetness instead if sugar? Idk what I’m doing just a thought never tried making anything before but sounded good to me. Edit: lol you said it tasted like cherry juice after the sugar so I couldn’t be that far off
@davidmathieson8661
@davidmathieson8661 Жыл бұрын
Hmmm now I'm thinking about how to incorporate a "moon sugar" "skooma" element...for those of you who know "Khajit has wares". Thinking possibly Buzz Button flowers would give a more physically sensory experience which could be pretty fun
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