Khilafah is MORE Democratic

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Islam21c

Islam21c

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@TheUnknownMAS
@TheUnknownMAS 4 ай бұрын
Election process and democracy are not the same.
@kuthub1989
@kuthub1989 4 жыл бұрын
Democratic khilafah is like transparent abayaa.
@anothergoogleuser4915
@anothergoogleuser4915 4 жыл бұрын
Lol Excellent analogy !
@kuthub1989
@kuthub1989 3 жыл бұрын
@@ankhmorpok1497 Khilafah in the way of prophet.
@saleemakbar4335
@saleemakbar4335 5 жыл бұрын
Democracy is a system of ruling not to be confused with elections which the Sheikh has done, however good point that the Sheikh recognised that there must have been a system in place .
@islammuzahidul6524
@islammuzahidul6524 5 жыл бұрын
People's mandate is enshrined in our shari'ah.
@kaz4845
@kaz4845 5 жыл бұрын
Saleem, your mistaking secular democracy with what the shaikh is suggesting.. Which is simply people's participation of choosing the leader
@saleemakbar4335
@saleemakbar4335 5 жыл бұрын
@@kaz4845 Even communists selected or elected their leaders, so selection , election can be a feature of any system .The issue is the Sheikh adding the term democracy at any opportunity . It is a sad state of affairs when we forget what is going on the muslim world interms of the Greater Middle East Initiative where yet again the colonisers are slicing up and imposing their system on the Middle East . His last statement was just laughable " where there is democracy there is hope " Remember Algeria When the people used democracy to vote in Islam in 1992, a military coup dismantled the winning party and led to bloodshed . Democracy like any other system will never allow itself to be voted out for a alternative system . Let us have the understanding and the confidence to break free from the colonisers shackles that bind our thinking.
@kaz4845
@kaz4845 5 жыл бұрын
@@saleemakbar4335, so whats your system? Please give details
@saleemakbar4335
@saleemakbar4335 5 жыл бұрын
@@islammuzahidul6524 Elaborate .
@ctraltdel3558
@ctraltdel3558 4 жыл бұрын
If the khilfah was a democracy, then there is no point in a khilafah. We should just give bayah to Netenyahu. He was elected by democray.
@muhammadmuhammadalfulanial4490
@muhammadmuhammadalfulanial4490 5 жыл бұрын
Sh Haitham Al Haddad. The Khilafa is not a kind of Democracy. YOU ARE WRONG. I'm sure this sheikh never studied the philosophical fondation of the modern politics. That the reason why he says nonsense. Dear sheikh it is not because you live in europe or your family live in such place. By consequence, you can eat and drink. And also send your childreen to the school. That you have the right to say nonsense concerning the theorie of politics in ISLAM.
@UnitAlir
@UnitAlir 4 жыл бұрын
You said he is wrong but not why. I think maybe you're just using slogans and narratives
@MuhammadAhmed-lc1op
@MuhammadAhmed-lc1op 2 ай бұрын
Have some shame. This is not the way to address a scholar.
@T1000-e7s
@T1000-e7s 5 жыл бұрын
The most humiliating attempt at trying to promote democracy, subhanAllah. Mr Hadad your argument falls down the drain immediately, trying to say selecting the caliph is democratic? How can it be when all the candidates are from the same party lol meaning every candidate is a Muslim needs to fulfill the 7 conditions of being a caliph rules by Shari'a etc, where are the other options for the people to choose (secularists,liberals,etc.) Mr Hadad trying to say that the four rightly guided caliphs were elected democratically, then in the next sentence says the shura council picked Othman ra, and then asked some of the children and others their opinion on the shura council's pick of othman subhanAllah is this guy serious how does that even remotely resemble democracy, brothers dont be fooled by these men who contradict the sunnah no matter who they are, be wise and intelligent brothers and sisters just look at how he played a cunning trick he first tells you the truth by saying the "shura" council already ELECTED Othman ra and then asked the people what do you think, is mr Hadad telling us that if some of children, elders and others said they dont like Othman ra that the shura council would of revoked caliph Othman from being the new leader lol absolutely ridiculous and weak low level knowledge and intelligence. Shura picks the new caliph khalas, not the children or criminals or the uneducated and illiterate.
@TarikJamil-s8h
@TarikJamil-s8h 3 күн бұрын
this is the interview where the speakers don't know either democracy or Islam.
@AbdurRahman-dn7gx
@AbdurRahman-dn7gx 5 жыл бұрын
Why there is no 'haha' react on youtube...
@doctorsfaithcorner4917
@doctorsfaithcorner4917 3 жыл бұрын
1.Khalif is elected by Muslims, not people of all religion. Khilafah system is different from democracy.
@saheb3027
@saheb3027 4 жыл бұрын
The title is very misleading. In a Democratic system, sovereignty belongs to the people as enshrined in Abraham Lincoln's Gettysburg speech "Government of the people, by the people shall prevail..." After Muhammad(SAW) passed away the people of Influence (Ahl Ul Halli Wal Aqd) chose the next Khilafah. The whole Ummah was not invited to take part in choosing a new Khaleefah. Even if the Ummah is invited to the ballot box to elect a Khaleefah, then it does not mean that the Ummah is sovereign... Having the choice to decide to vote for a Khaleefah doesn't mean that the Khilafah system is Democratic... In Islam Sovereignty belongs to the Shariah ONLY. The authority to appoint a Khaleefah belongs to the Ummah (people of Influence:Ahl Ul Halli Wal Aqd; or involving the whole Ummah via a ballot box). The Khaleefah implements Islam by applying the laws on the citizens of the Islamic state. The Khaleefah can be accounted by a special impartial judge called Qadhi Hisbah or Qadhi Madhalim..... The Khaleefah is not a saintly or Godly figure or infallible...The Ummah need to always be able to account the Khaleefah..... We need to stop calling the Khilafah sytem as a democratic system...
@usmanarif5707
@usmanarif5707 Жыл бұрын
Dont confuse democracy with votes.
@ahmadumar6210
@ahmadumar6210 5 жыл бұрын
Ya Shaykh, The Voting of the Caliph isn't like the voting in democrazy the national president. Because the caliph establisment the shariah, meanwhile the president estibleshment the democracy rule and they can decide to legitimate prostutation, alcohol, gampling and interest It is also allowed in our shariah? Discussion is finished
@uthmanhuffington7130
@uthmanhuffington7130 5 жыл бұрын
KHALIPHA IS GENERAL OF POWER OF ALLAH FOR WHEN ISSA IBN MARYAM ALEIHI SALAM COME BACK AGAIN IN MASJID FROM DAMASCO IN SYRIA....IN SHA ALLAH
@kopinikmat5618
@kopinikmat5618 4 жыл бұрын
Assalamu'alaikum from Indonesia. Please at least give english subtitle.
@ctraltdel3558
@ctraltdel3558 4 жыл бұрын
It sounds like he is losing his knowledge.
@anothergoogleuser4915
@anothergoogleuser4915 4 жыл бұрын
Stopped defending him a few years ago, after giving him the benefit of the doubt in many topics. You can't defend the indefensible so ....
@imperator692
@imperator692 5 жыл бұрын
I get what you're saying, but you shouldn't characterize the Caliphate system as a democracy because the Shura Council isn't voted in, its selected
@adbtqi
@adbtqi 4 жыл бұрын
Then how was Harat Hussain martyred Hanbal shafi taumiya abuhanifa jailed How come when there was free/independent justice? Political Murders ?
@ohyeahohyeah8855
@ohyeahohyeah8855 5 жыл бұрын
the muslims chose him but democracy comes from the greek word demos cratis which means for man to legislate by what he thinks is wrong or right, however the people give the bayah to the caliph if he says he will rule by islam and not by what he think is right or wrong. its basic concepts and this shaykh has failed to understand this
@uthmanhuffington7130
@uthmanhuffington7130 5 жыл бұрын
Khaliphato is resistence when dajjal coming...
@uthmanhuffington7130
@uthmanhuffington7130 5 жыл бұрын
ALLAH AL MALIK...IS KHALIPHATO...SHARYATULLSH IS KHALIPHATO...AL CORANIC IS KHALIPHATO...SHAHADA ...SALAT...ZAKAT...RAMADHAN AND HAJJ IS KHALIPHATO...ATTE IMAM AL MAHDI...MA SHA ALLAH ...QURAYSHIE IN AMERICA BIRTH IS SUNRISE WEST...BLACK BIRTH MARK... POETIC MAN....AND MORE MA SHAA ALLAH S.W.T.
@ibnqaysr7938
@ibnqaysr7938 5 жыл бұрын
This is what happens when the hukm shari is not your criteria and you don't understand the waqi; you start evaluating the pros of cons in a premise where you don't belong. Equating elections with a democracy is a false equivalence and betrays an absurd lack of political clarity about concepts such as sovereignty, which belongs to the people, that allows them to legislate when it only belonged to Allah. Asking in rhetoric if the sharia can be restored due to the vacuum of those institutions that enable it under the guise of it being long-term and tacitly impossible is equally absurd and betrays any basic understanding of political transformation and indeed radical change. May Allah reward the sheikh for a number of things he mentions in this podcast, re khurooj and calling out those scholars that order not to go against the ruler - but I am afraid the basis of his argumentation, even though the conclusion is right, is also slightly flawed, because he argues that it is what the people want it, when it was the order of Allah - for if the people desired a tyrant in power or kufr in place, it would not make it right. Woe to those that use the waqi3 as a basis for their tafkeer, I am afraid these people will never create change, because they passively conform to the overwhelming reality that pervades them without a desire nor vision to change it. Woe to those who tacitly imply that the dead and suffering who were killed and butchered by tyrants like sisi, are foolish - the sheikh failed to even grasp the meaning of the ayat he is referencing. Woe to those who called the dog Erdogan who rules by other than what Allah has revealed, who sold the Muslims in Syria in his agreement with Russia and obedience to the United States, a MUJADDID. Woe to those who believe a ruler is fulfilling his obligation in implementing secularism, apparently absolved if he is doing as best he can. Woe to those who equate ruling by the sharia with boring overused stereotypes to undermine the youth, who forgets the ayat in Baqarah about accepting part of the book and rejecting the rest.
@uyghurrights8595
@uyghurrights8595 5 жыл бұрын
Ok, let's say half of the people of a country want sharia and the other half don't? The obvious implication of that civil war.
@kaz4845
@kaz4845 5 жыл бұрын
Farukh, lots of words of critiscm.. So what is your proposal for how Muslims are ruled?
@osmanjibril8940
@osmanjibril8940 5 жыл бұрын
akhi dont be surprised this guy is ikhwaani they dont care about shariah, in the other clip he said whenever there is democracy theres hope. subhanallah what happened to shariah, from what he said it means theres no hope in appliying shariah. and then you have people defending him and they dont about allahs shariah. this is not a sheikh he is deviant sheikh who wants to misguide people with his own desires.
@kaz4845
@kaz4845 5 жыл бұрын
@@sc-dy9rx, so what are these rulings.. Give the details..
@kaz4845
@kaz4845 5 жыл бұрын
@@sc-dy9rx, lol you use sheikh Google.. I'll ask again.. How does the Islamic system of leadership work.. All I see at the moment are tyrants.. You enlighten us how its supposed to work
@yaseenameen545
@yaseenameen545 5 жыл бұрын
HT munafiqs are going to be crying when they watch this! Lol
@checkmate5338
@checkmate5338 5 жыл бұрын
@Invictus No one said there should be voting every 5 years and no one said we should rule with people's laws over Allah's laws.
@abdulkader7104
@abdulkader7104 5 жыл бұрын
@Invictus that is right but just like the sheikh noted that the ruler can't change anything so who ever comes it won't matter so if he stayed for 40 years or 8 stayed then it won't change anything
@ahmadumar6210
@ahmadumar6210 5 жыл бұрын
​@Don't Support Pakistan Because Nationalism is Haram i'm suprised the shaykh here doesnt argument by islamic text instead with historical critical method like the orientalists
@ahmadumar6210
@ahmadumar6210 5 жыл бұрын
@Don't Support Pakistan Because Nationalism is HaramBarakullah fikum dear Akhi agree with you, your speak is completely right and that is the bad site of the reality here in the west, but we need to call for the right political system and for the change, therefore i hope that any brother here will understand my subtext, By the way, your name is a provocative reminder. Barakullah fikum for this my dear akhi. i'm not from Pakistan, but the chance in for a systematical change is near there, i hope atleast . Therefore i'm support the politcal Movement as far i can, because the Prophet saw. said "the Ummah is like a Body!" (Hadith Muslim)
@ahmadumar6210
@ahmadumar6210 5 жыл бұрын
@Don't Support Pakistan Because Nationalism is HaramKhilafah is Wajib, it mention in the Hadith of Imam Muslim "Whoever die without the Bayah on his neck, die as the time of jahaliyyah" I'm descent in my expression. but i say clear every idea of nationalism is haram and leads to tribialism, I'm from afghanistan and there is the goverment corrupt and make the people to rascist against pakistani brothers, therefore i hate this fascists ideas whose based on democracy and secularism.... yeahh i agree in every sentence with you, and all our brainwashed ideas roots from the colonialism and therefore we need an enlightment for all our countries, this could only happened by a caliph who establishment the idea of shariyyah islamiyyah insha Allah, this is the Promise of Allah swt
@abdulah3178
@abdulah3178 5 жыл бұрын
the title of this video is very misleading. the shaykh never says that the "Khilafah is democractic". He only describes a supposed similarity in electing a leader.
@ctraltdel3558
@ctraltdel3558 4 жыл бұрын
The way he describes it sounds like he is trying to say that the process is democratic. He is wrong either way. The sholars and ahlul hali wal aqd(in this case the sahahabah) choose the khalifah. It is not done by a general election.
@uthmanhuffington7130
@uthmanhuffington7130 5 жыл бұрын
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@abdihasan5255
@abdihasan5255 4 жыл бұрын
Uff🤮
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