Kiara Impressed and Wondering How Indonesia People Fluent at a lot of Languages

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Күн бұрын

tbh in my opinion, the education system is bad almost at really bad level its just that our tongue is really flexible so we can easily learn another languages
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@viscountzalien6004
@viscountzalien6004 2 жыл бұрын
To answers Kiara's question : Based on my experience, most Indonesian knows at least 2 languages, Bahasa Indonesia and their local region languages (such as Sundanese, Javanese etc) or Bahasa Indonesia and English. We also learnt English from kindergarten until high school. In Highschool you will see 2 majors to choose, science or social. If you pick social major its high chances you'll get another language lesson usually either Germany, Japanese, Korean, or French. So in conclusion, its not that rare to see people who are fluent in 3 languages or so.
@graycap111b5
@graycap111b5 2 жыл бұрын
I think this applies to SEA people in general. In the Philippines, most people's primary language is their regional language (may include multiple dialects of said language), followed by Filipino (tbf, it's mostly just Tagalog with lots of borrowed words from other languages), and then English. Additional languages beyond that are also mostly self-taught. I bet it's the same with Malaysians, Vietnamese, Cambodians, etc.
@pindo8856
@pindo8856 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah most people are able to speak two languages. And by the time they are able to speak english, they become trilingual.
@manusiabumi7673
@manusiabumi7673 2 жыл бұрын
Also, some islamic schools here make arabic a compulsory foreign language subject besides english
@veerium
@veerium 2 жыл бұрын
There is 3rd major choice at 2nd year of high school, that's probably called linguistic albeit probably only for 1 or 2 class. So Science, Social and linguistic.
@Neonna777
@Neonna777 2 жыл бұрын
I think the social major language lesson only apply to some schools. Mine doesn't have that but we have Mandarin & English for both science & social
@firzy1833
@firzy1833 2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile Indonesia itself has 718 regional languages and some of the residents do not necessarily understand their respective regional languages.💀
@yosefarfianbudiman
@yosefarfianbudiman Жыл бұрын
True
@beelzeduard
@beelzeduard 2 жыл бұрын
To add the comments: I don't know whether this is 100% true, but part of the reason why Indonesians can master a lot of language is because bahasa Indonesia (and many other local languages here, i think) don't have any specific rules in it (like in English where the "r" Is not pronounced in some words) and the words are just from alphabet. This makes our tongue somewhat "flexible" and we can study other languages and their rules easily.
@SaruBunny
@SaruBunny 2 жыл бұрын
yeah it's very easy to learn another language if you can speak Indonesian, there are many languages from all over the world that are also mixed in it, because indonesia language was made for that purpose because every city has a different language
@vogel2499
@vogel2499 8 ай бұрын
But that's also weakness when they learned language with that feature. Most Indonesians will fumbled when pronouncing German words and some mandarin, but will be at home with Spanish.
@datlynn781
@datlynn781 2 жыл бұрын
Well, it's easy, really. Quoting someone on the web; "How to be bilingual in 2 easy steps. Step 1. Not be a native English speaker Step 2. Discover the internet."
@gilangprasetya6727
@gilangprasetya6727 2 жыл бұрын
Dang, that's how ASEAN can speak more than 2 languages at default, just learn by curiosity and some interest u can able to do it step by step
@yogaaditya2797
@yogaaditya2797 2 жыл бұрын
This.
@Anathema2741
@Anathema2741 2 жыл бұрын
Welp, I failed step 1... 🙁
@FreyjaWion
@FreyjaWion 2 жыл бұрын
3. be a dedicated"weeb" 🤭
@SunanSetiadi
@SunanSetiadi 2 жыл бұрын
Basically this honestly, if you're born somewhere that doesn't use english as its main language, there's a high chance you'll have english as your second or third language, cuz it is the most popular language used internationally.
@ojougiggle4553
@ojougiggle4553 2 жыл бұрын
I trust they pick , the one that fluent in more languages cuz that's some + point and can easily doing an interaction with their senpai
@zir456
@zir456 2 жыл бұрын
Also can do mix branch collab
@deschia_
@deschia_ 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the JP branch also does this since HoloX. Lui can basically converse in english just fine, Sakamata is pretty basic level but at least above average. Also the upcoming Holostars gen, Uproar, I see at least 2 of them can have written english conversation on twitter, and it didnt feel like they use translation machine
@neku2741
@neku2741 2 жыл бұрын
I think its just most that audition usually weebs that learn japanese in their past time.
@shiroid2413
@shiroid2413 2 жыл бұрын
but Indonesia is the country with the most trilingual users in the world
@Pfish1000
@Pfish1000 2 жыл бұрын
@@neku2741 probably this. Indonesia has a lot of weebs too and Indonesians by necessity are able to pick up languages pretty quickly.
@zynerza
@zynerza 2 жыл бұрын
For the people who don't know, we indonesians usually can speak at least 2 or 3 languages. One is our primary language bahasa Indonesia, second is our regional language, and third is english. Anything besides that usually a self thought thing. Although there are some highschools that taught you japanese and german
@MunchMagician
@MunchMagician 2 жыл бұрын
actually, a lot of Indonesian first and primary language is regional language not Bahasa Indonesia, i even know someone who can't speak Bahasa Indonesia
@ifdy1361
@ifdy1361 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's the other way around, Indonesian language is most people 2nd language
@dahyunkim6019
@dahyunkim6019 2 жыл бұрын
same as the Philippines
@fajarch2204
@fajarch2204 2 жыл бұрын
also theres arabic and/or mandarin
@Mordeiv
@Mordeiv 2 жыл бұрын
Same with us Filipinos actually. Well, us from the Southern Part of Philippines at least. Most of the northerners only know Tagalog.
@BuckOne01
@BuckOne01 2 жыл бұрын
FYI, Indonesia is the most Trilingual country in the world right now, i've met many people speak Javanese (native), Bahasa (Fluent) and English (Fluent).. actually japanese & korean languages aren't very popular as much as english in here tho
@sani8443
@sani8443 2 жыл бұрын
My guess is that Korean for K-pop or drama, and Japanese for anime or otaku subculture in general.
@glenlucifer2500
@glenlucifer2500 2 жыл бұрын
Brother??!?
@BuckOne01
@BuckOne01 2 жыл бұрын
@@sani8443 yes, most of them that fluent in japanese & korean are self taught
@user-sh2sg2ss3s
@user-sh2sg2ss3s 2 жыл бұрын
@@BuckOne01 don't forget that we also send workers to Japan, Korea, Germany, and other countries too. So, that's increase the number.
@i8i03muhammadfarizb7
@i8i03muhammadfarizb7 2 жыл бұрын
@@sani8443 like every weebs in the world to be fair, whether its korean or japanese thing 🤷🏻‍♂️
@Fellatiano
@Fellatiano 2 жыл бұрын
indonesian 101 : speaks 4-5 language = very rich speaks 3-4 language = rich speaks 2-3 language = properly educated (usually a college graduate) speaks 1-2 language = decently educated speaks 1 language = peasant
@manusiabiasa3858
@manusiabiasa3858 2 жыл бұрын
i kinda laugh at the speak 1 languange = peasant. Cause in a way i agree with you, with all the experiences that i had watching a indonesian streamer/vtuber speaks english and there should be at least 1 guy who would say "gak bisa bahasa inggris". LOL
@hakurou8960
@hakurou8960 2 жыл бұрын
i beg to differ but i think speaks more than 5 language, does not mean that person is very rich. just needs to travel to lots of places (doing voluntary activity or something like that)
@yamiRic
@yamiRic 2 жыл бұрын
I'm happy that Kiara said our education system is good because it is totally wrong (lmao! I am definitely not learning any English from our education system. You need to take extra classes outside school system for that) These are the reasons why we learned more than 1 language: 1. I could speak this as SEA people that our native language is most likely useless in the future. We have to at least know one language which are used internationally for example English, Mandarin, Korean, Japanese, Spanish, German, French, or Arabic. 2. We are so exposed to international contents that most of us ended up being self-taught for foreign language. I learned English from subbed anime, Japanese by listening to anime songs and watching anime, and Korean while watching variety show. 3. Indonesia has so many languages and ethnics. Our national language is basically a new language to incorporate all the differences but most of us learned our ethnic language as well. so overall, it is not surprising to see Indonesian to know more than 3 languages and could talk in more than 4 ethnic accents, especially if you are coming from big cities. Pretty sure SEA bros are also in similar situation.
@rudianto2903
@rudianto2903 2 жыл бұрын
Beside regional language and Indonesian, a lot of Indonesian people know basic English. People who knows Japanese usually loves anime.
@degeneratesofthealphav2523
@degeneratesofthealphav2523 2 жыл бұрын
or they got scholarship.
@user-sh2sg2ss3s
@user-sh2sg2ss3s 2 жыл бұрын
Some highschool have languages extracurricular. meanwhile in some other highschool, you can choose languages as your major, you can choose between Mandarin, Japanese, Korean, etc.
@ridhoardipratama7978
@ridhoardipratama7978 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-sh2sg2ss3s my highschool has french
@Verosa1410
@Verosa1410 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-sh2sg2ss3s and it's a fact that Japanese class is basically weebs gathering.
@user-sh2sg2ss3s
@user-sh2sg2ss3s 2 жыл бұрын
@@ridhoardipratama7978 yeah, there's a lot languages major depends on the highschool.
@Delheoblanc
@Delheoblanc 2 жыл бұрын
said the one who speaks german, english and japanese while learning other herself, kiara also is a great multilingual learner! also its mainly due to the flexibility of one's mother tongue and indonesian's language has relatively simple, adaptive and flexible tongue in the first place.
@alvinjan3486
@alvinjan3486 2 жыл бұрын
I also heard she can speak Chinese too
@hreaper
@hreaper 2 жыл бұрын
@@alvinjan3486 Mandarin?
@wardana3403
@wardana3403 2 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact, in Indonesia, the majority of people are Indonesian, their mother tongue is not Bahasa Indonesia, Bahasa Indonesia is their second language🤔
@aadipdip1326
@aadipdip1326 2 жыл бұрын
soo true
@nanno8024
@nanno8024 2 жыл бұрын
Yes so truee
@EsJeruk69
@EsJeruk69 2 жыл бұрын
true, we have lots culture and race. and they have own speak too. even in your neighboor city there re different "language" and accent ahahhahha
@fallenqiqi4840
@fallenqiqi4840 2 жыл бұрын
Except people that was born around Jakarta
@arhaen
@arhaen 2 жыл бұрын
nah i live in sumatera and most of our first language is indonesian (not even malay)
@Panjangl
@Panjangl 2 жыл бұрын
From what I understand SEA people has alot of otaku’s / kpop fans. School teaches us national language, english. Family teach us their dialects or at least we pick it up after hearing it from day2day conversations
@gilangignasraharjo6138
@gilangignasraharjo6138 2 жыл бұрын
true
@maleorembrandt8324
@maleorembrandt8324 2 жыл бұрын
I think because Indonesia have a lot local language, multi roots ancestry and very different each other, that's forced learning other just to understand.
@Honyasu
@Honyasu 2 жыл бұрын
Traditional language, Indonesian language, and English. These are the languages in Indonesian. So ya 3 are the most common
@aggarr
@aggarr 2 жыл бұрын
I can 100% sure thats its not our education system, our education system is suck ass.
@Panjangl
@Panjangl 2 жыл бұрын
True, en jp indonesian + dialects + korean ( iofi knows german so thats a bonus )
@lyconxero457
@lyconxero457 2 жыл бұрын
I just think it's cool that they all seem to know how to speak English and find it fascinating that a few of the members (Reine and Zeta, specifically) seem to speak it quite fluently with no accent. Really, it just makes me wish the American school system pushed other languages at us from childhood because it would be SO VALUABLE later in life. All I got growing up was shitty Spanish classes in high school and after 4 years of it I can't speak or understand the language really at all aside from knowing a few phrases and random vocabulary words. I really love that the ID girls can speak so many languages because it makes the possibility of collabs that much easier between the different branches.
@InstanRamen
@InstanRamen 2 жыл бұрын
I think mostly indonesian people is interest with another language, at least every school in indonesia learn english. In my case Elementary school & Junior High School i was taught english and mandarin High school German or Japanese depending on what major you choose.
@davidputraaditya
@davidputraaditya 2 жыл бұрын
In my junior high School we learn 4 language Arab, eng, japanese, and mandarin
@Absolute__Zero
@Absolute__Zero 2 жыл бұрын
Yagoo is playing real life gacha and is able to pull *SSR* talents. Every. Single. Time. (ノ°ο°)ノ
@saber_xyt
@saber_xyt 2 жыл бұрын
Our phoenix looking hot and cute as always love her so much :') the new members debut was nice :'D We have new people in this nice rabbit whole
@akina5253
@akina5253 2 жыл бұрын
Most of Indonesian at least fluent in 2 languages, traditional and Indonesia language. We learn English from elementary-high school, and train it with talking or just from listening music. Japanese or Korean mostly learn themself, like from their interest such as anime/manga/korean drama. For example i learn Japanese to better know about raw manga/non sub anime.
@rhezeqfirmanchung1172
@rhezeqfirmanchung1172 2 жыл бұрын
*Local dialect
@mazditzo
@mazditzo 2 жыл бұрын
1:30 pffft good education systems? I think Singapore is the best in SEA, dwarving it's giant neighbor by a mile
@sakana4306
@sakana4306 2 жыл бұрын
To be honest, as an Indonesian, I can speak 4 languages, Indonesian, English and 2 regional languages. ...
@GT3Forever
@GT3Forever 2 жыл бұрын
3 because Indonesia has local and our base language, and english is like a must language on our school, at least mine. I have like 6 different english subject throughout my school, like geeez. (I have the time when I hate English, ngl) For other language, let's just say thanks to people on WW. I feel like because of them invading us we got an education from them. Like litteraly my school has language extracurricular, and they are Japanese, Chinese, Dutch, and Korean.
@GT3Forever
@GT3Forever 2 жыл бұрын
I've said it once and I'm gonna say it again. Indonesia is the world in the nutshell.
@Goxut
@Goxut 2 жыл бұрын
To answer kiara question, Yes being a bilingual / tringual is COMMON in Indonesia atleast 90% of indonesia people can speak 2 language (Bahasa Indonesia(main language) and their Local Language) if not (Bahasa Indonesia and English), but japanese and korea is not a language that most indonesian learn, some people can speak jp and kr language because K-POP and Anime community is big in indonesia.
@shawnjonathan6465
@shawnjonathan6465 2 жыл бұрын
Want to add something to the comment section. Yes ,at the very least ,Most Indos can speak even if not in the most fluent way,2 languages, either Bahasa and Local Region languages or Bahasa and English. Some elementary to junior high private schools also teach Mandarin. And in Highschool ,most schools give you 2 options, either social or science, but some also have language (i don't know if its still a common curriculum or not). Sadly in my school, they do not provide such thing as learning other languages like others in the comment section (even in social class) and only English because its one of the primary subject. But what i can say from my experience, we sometimes do absorb language(s) like sponge and water (mostly the basic i must say), because from early age we already/must do so to interact with our family, community and friends which if we weren't able to, things probably were gonna get a bit difficult in the long run. Also, the flexibilty in our tongue, probably comes from the fact that our national language, Bahasa ,is developed through many cultures that has stayed/passed since the 5th century. And the characteristic of simplicity and phonetically spoken of our language makes us more easily accept new languages(?).. that's just my interpretation (correct me if im wrong please). TL:DR ver: Basically we're just a language version of Adapt. Survive. Overcome p.s : sorry if there's bad english in there
@fairusakbar
@fairusakbar 2 жыл бұрын
We spoke 2 Language Bahasa Indonesia and Our Regional Born Language. And from Studying in School Even if you get job outside of the main island you must learn their regional language to survive.
@Altercepez
@Altercepez 2 жыл бұрын
Even among ID theres literally hundred of local language and dialect, my mom and my dad spoke dif local language, and if big family gathering theres like 10 or more local dialect, so maybe this is why ID talent tend to be multilingual
@BintangAz
@BintangAz 2 жыл бұрын
Bahahaha Adalah Benar 😂
@rioharta526
@rioharta526 2 жыл бұрын
lol, indonesia education system is only mid at best but nowadays the citizens like to consume overseas media more than domestic media which leads them to always hear the language, which in the end makes them have an understanding of the language and are able to speak the language Of course, to be able to read the language is a different story because Japanese and Korean have very different letters system from the Indonesian and English letter systems So yes, those who can read the language are usually very enthusiastic about the country of that language (usually because of anime / kdrama / kpop) those who do not understand English or other foreign language are usually because they do not live in cities and in areas where there is no internet provider, which causes them to only consume domestic media, which causes them to rarely interact with foreign languages
@takecareyoself5379
@takecareyoself5379 2 жыл бұрын
In conclusion, the shittier our local entertainment are, the higher number of multilingual teenagers is
@gilangignasraharjo6138
@gilangignasraharjo6138 2 жыл бұрын
Our education is AT LEAST better than Japan's when it comes to english. You got a point there too tho.
@zir456
@zir456 2 жыл бұрын
@@takecareyoself5379 long ago, I always felt like having heart attack watching drama with same meaning everyday
@sani8443
@sani8443 2 жыл бұрын
​@@gilangignasraharjo6138 I think it depends on how much English affects one's society. People in my country often make fun of Japan for how bad their English skill is in general, but the way I see it, it's simply because the country doesn't necessarily have to rely on the said language to survive and people to get a job whereas in my country it is a redundant requirement.
@user-sh2sg2ss3s
@user-sh2sg2ss3s 2 жыл бұрын
@@sani8443 yea lol. I always laughing inside when some people mocking japanese English, i was like "they don't even need English in their life" 🤣
@MH-jk1nw
@MH-jk1nw 2 жыл бұрын
Poor Moona 😅 She the only one who couldn't speak Japanese in HoloID so far 😅 Let's see how next 2 members
@fuku1u
@fuku1u 2 жыл бұрын
"good education system"
@mopped8247
@mopped8247 2 жыл бұрын
there's a lot of Indonesians that can speak 2 languages, dare i say there are more people that speak multiple language than those who only speak one.
@Panjangl
@Panjangl 2 жыл бұрын
There was a time when people complained not knowing English but luckily we have minyak sayur and a few others doing live tl
@rudianto2903
@rudianto2903 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the majority of people speak Bahasa Indonesia as 2nd language. Me too.
@rudianto2903
@rudianto2903 2 жыл бұрын
@@Panjangl Minyak sayur is insane, he always helps us to translate in 3 languages.
@mopped8247
@mopped8247 2 жыл бұрын
@@Panjangl he has my utmost respect for being able to translate so fast to the point youtube bans him
@Panjangl
@Panjangl 2 жыл бұрын
Ya, congratulations he got 1k subs
@litlsteps8486
@litlsteps8486 2 жыл бұрын
3 out of 4 of my indo friends has great grammar and english fluency. they said most highschoolers there are decently fluent already.they also mentioned about some local languages that are also quite different from the usual bahasa. o7
@modredd1907
@modredd1907 2 жыл бұрын
They're learned from the past, senpais is the pioneer, but also a legend.
@jasonZoo123
@jasonZoo123 2 жыл бұрын
"Do they have good education system?" Hahaha kiara, that's definitely not the reason.
@orionchevalier7398
@orionchevalier7398 2 жыл бұрын
Most Indonesian is either bilingual or trilingual. The first and second will be regional language and Indonesian, the third will be English. In my school, we also learn Mandarin. In highschool there will also be afterschool activities, there's french class, german, etc. My school is also collaborating with a korean school and uni so they also have korean class and exchange program. My school is also planning to collab with a japanese school soon. Although I don't think most Indonesian is as lucky as I am, but from what I know if you are already a bilingual learning another language will be easier.
@noisessv
@noisessv 2 жыл бұрын
true, I also have that Mandarin class lol
@defadera_736
@defadera_736 2 жыл бұрын
An IB school kid huh
@vogel2499
@vogel2499 8 ай бұрын
I think it also helped that we do consume western media voraciously, we are not contained in our bubble so we have the immediate contexts to apply what we learned.
@irwansigieo2362
@irwansigieo2362 2 жыл бұрын
if we talk about indonesian old era basicly they're like korea or japan or china we stuck at our language n our region tribe language our accent is stuck as well . but if we talk about indonesian this days it's common . usually the citizen learned 2 language wich the native indonesia language and region tribe language . but we got some addition because the majority our regios is moeslem so we are common speaking arab language because of the holy book qur'an is using arabian n we use arab language for reticing on praying . then we got some bonus if they're chinese or arabian or indian because their families environment had diff language as well . so our tongue is flexible . n then we learned addition language english at school from kindergarden primary elementary junior high college. we got more bonus n becomes more flexible . n when on junior n high school the diff school has their more extra language studies such a mandarin, arab, japan, france, deutch, german (depend on the school) on my friends school the got mandarin on junior n japan at his high school on my case my junior is arab n my high school is france and maybe i'm kinda ppl who learn fast n like language so it's smooth even though im not used that again since graduate so much forgotten things happened lmao . and if the people got hobby or like anime or something about japan wich is weeb/wibu/weabo they can learn japanese as well, it's happened alot like me iofi anya ollie risu n bunch of ppl like that we got easier to learn bcs our tongue alrd flexible from the experience and if they got halyu/korean wave from kpop n korean drama, they'll found korean is interesting n u know they'll learn korean language as well, it's happened at iofi as well, and my lit sister is like that, but i'm not interested so i'm pass . something like this maybe happened on malaysia thailand n philipine singapore as well but their quantity is the different indonesia n philipine n singapore n malaysia maybe is the one who are much common
@enmaai5869
@enmaai5869 2 жыл бұрын
as a sabahan, its rare to meet people who only speak 2 or 3 language, cuz since middle shool were taught in 3-4 language and also from daily interaction in multi racial community.
@chlorind
@chlorind 2 жыл бұрын
No, education in here (Indonesia) is not that good. But I think it is because in the high school we have a Japanese lesson as an additional subjects because Japanese investment here is quite high. It is just taught you the very basics (not even reaching N5 level for 3 years) but it is enough to be a trigger some people to be a self learner. And also it boosted by the anime culture. Me, as an example, didn't think have enough talent to learn language because at that point my english is not fluent enough, let alone a language that has a 2000+ f*cking random character. But after starting learn Japanese at high school it makes me want to learn more and here I am after 3 years self taught passed N3.
@itsyonasa
@itsyonasa 2 жыл бұрын
I mean in ID, at least in school we learn Indonesia and English as a compulsory lesson, and we also have many local language (Sundanese, Javanese, Madurai etc)
@proudtobeadisliker9374
@proudtobeadisliker9374 2 жыл бұрын
this maybe sounds disrespecting, but coming from developing country, we "should/must" at least learn 3 foreign language to "sell/advertise" ourself better. you know what i mean.
@carrot708
@carrot708 2 жыл бұрын
My school taught me French, and there's the entire country of England and then an ocean between Scotland and anywhere you can actually practice it. So everyone forgets French.
@vieronna
@vieronna 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's a common thing there, but Kiara out of literally everyone in Hololive who isn't ID YOU are the least qualified to be shocked and surprised about it lol. It's not a competition, but damn girl count your own languages.
@Ji_Rif
@Ji_Rif 2 жыл бұрын
Well some areas in Indonesia has their own local languages, usually bahasa Indonesia is their 2nd language. There's not few people who don't know how to speak english. Actually these talents are so smart that they can learn multiple language. I truly respect that.
@rakataharjuna6754
@rakataharjuna6754 2 жыл бұрын
"Nice education system" Well not really, since I think (as an Indonesian) current Indonesia education system is not good. However, Indonesian children at least Indonesian student learn 3 languages since primary school (Indonesian, English, Local language). At high school, we usually learn 1 more extra language (depending on the school regulation)
@rirusa7238
@rirusa7238 2 жыл бұрын
Bukan cuman edukasi nya, tetapi lidah orang Indonesia lebih ga kaku di banding negara lain, jadi lebih kedengeran fluent
@yukiark6468
@yukiark6468 2 жыл бұрын
Based on my High School experience, I'm studied 4 languages :Native in my case is Basa Sunda, Bahasa Indonesia, English and Japanese. But in other school they teach Germany rather than Japanese
@liberator3490
@liberator3490 2 жыл бұрын
Yea. My high school teach German instead of Japanese
@gilangprasetya6727
@gilangprasetya6727 2 жыл бұрын
Yup my high school has Bahasa class, and I'm at Bahasa class itself and most major languages such English, Japanese, Mandarin, German, etc we consume all of them even though hard to understand like Japanese and mandarin cause different writing systems(even though I'm weeb), and the worst grade at mathematics in school
@ultima214
@ultima214 2 жыл бұрын
Or me learn in islamic boarding school have learn 2 language ✨
@teguhharyadi7741
@teguhharyadi7741 2 жыл бұрын
hey we have 273 Million++ people in Indonesia how can we not have talented people like that. ofc we have them if the bureaucracy is good. thanks Hololive. Thanks Yagoo for finding these talents
@HeinzlerHZ
@HeinzlerHZ 2 жыл бұрын
".....either they just have a really good education sistem" Indonesians: *Laugh in kurikulum*
@KujoMakoto
@KujoMakoto 2 жыл бұрын
More like SEA folks generally speak multiple language due to various circumstances
@ShiraFuyu2022
@ShiraFuyu2022 2 жыл бұрын
Well idk if this true or not, but English has been a Mandatorial Lesson to take in schools. Them understanding more than 2 is up to them if they want to broaden their horizon
@YetAnotherTVC
@YetAnotherTVC 2 жыл бұрын
Can confirm, alot of countries have english as a subject so yeah
@renzanfortineri196
@renzanfortineri196 2 жыл бұрын
Kiara : either they just have a really good education system Indonesian who got red mark on Indonesian Language : *smily face 😊
@navarel9892
@navarel9892 2 жыл бұрын
Most younh people are at least bilingual if not trilingual, you get English lesson since elementary and another foreign language (usually Germany or Japanese) at high school And those who likes k-pop tends to study Korean
@suicasu3514
@suicasu3514 2 жыл бұрын
Well English is the money language, so if you wanna be employed in Indonesia learning the langauge can boost your chance of getting employed, same with Mandarin. JP is usually self-taught because it's the waifu lingo and KR well cuz KPOP. Other than that, usually Indonesians learn their local languages first then Bahasa Indonesia. I'm born in Jakarta and my parents barely taught me their local language so I can't speak it but I can make out what was being talked about and answer in Bahasa Indonesia. So, maybe that's why.
@eizumichi
@eizumichi 2 жыл бұрын
*Must have skill (At least for the educated people here) #Indonesia - Bahasa Indonesia (Of course we should know our own language) #English - Normal subject in every school (Just like most of school in the world) *Your choice #Javanese/Sundanese/etc - Regional language and also the reason why Bahasa Indonesia/Indonesian language system created (Indonesia is huge you know, it's as if JPN, KOR, SG, etc become 1 big country with each region still keep their respective language and culture) #Chinese - Sometimes... in some private school, this is normal subject for them (2nd after English) #Japanese - Popular otaku language (Anime is huge here) #Korean - Popular since the explosion of KPop and KDrama The rest are just extra... small percentage (If someone like it, want to work there, hobby, etc)
@totallyathome
@totallyathome 2 жыл бұрын
I think that having English as a first language is what makes it difficult to have the need to learn a second or third language is why. Since En is widely used while ppl in Indonesia definitely have to learne their local language, Bahasa Indonesia, then English to communicate with external businesses etc. I'm trying to learn Italian but whenever I hear English I just default to it immediately and that's my trouble.
@VieKrohtiel
@VieKrohtiel 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly as an indonesian bilingual or trilingual people here is super common There is a lot of races here with different languages in Indonesia, so i guess learning new one isn't really that hard(?) Idk. but they say if you can learn other language other than your mother tongue it's gets easier to learn new one And it is especially easy to learn japanese at least for the pronunciation because it's similar to Indonesian on how you read A I U E O
@ryuuohdeltaplus7936
@ryuuohdeltaplus7936 2 жыл бұрын
We folks here at SEA tend to learn and speak at least 3 languages growing up
@antasena6043
@antasena6043 2 жыл бұрын
As far as i know First of all, a lot of Indonesian people known at least 2 languages Bahasa Indonesia and their local language (like Javanese, sundanese, etc) and also most of the school in our country teach at least 2 languages (English and Indonesia) but can be as much as 4 or more (other language like our local language, Arabic or some even have German, France or Japanese language) Second, as far as i know in Indonesia your language competency can add to your value when you try to something, so more languages you can speak more value add to yours.
@arianramadanov_s1teknikele418
@arianramadanov_s1teknikele418 2 жыл бұрын
Remember how Moona's debut going? That one is a mess.
@ahmadaaziz2945
@ahmadaaziz2945 2 жыл бұрын
- A lot of Indonesians speaks *bahasa indonesia* (duh) - A lot of indonesian who're fortunate enough to get a proper education especially in schools , learns *english* at a pretty early age (like at grade/elementary school) - Some indonesians who're interested into the japanese culture like anime and stuff 😏 , tries to learns *japanese* - Most young female (between the age of 16-20+) likes korean drama /music , so they tries to learns *korean* So , Zeta is an indonesian, probably educated in school and her job as a secret agent to speak english, who also work as an idol in hololive (japanese idol agencies) , and a girl who probably liked kpop/kdrama to... Btw , sorry for bad english , im also an Indonesian 🙏🏽
@ahmadaaziz2945
@ahmadaaziz2945 2 жыл бұрын
ps . - Knowing Indonesia has the most muslim believer in the world, some school taught us *Arabic* language - Some school also have extracurricular/clubs that teaches *german* language - plus indonesia has a lot of ethnic groups talking tons of different languages , but united by *Bahasa Indonesia* So yeah , that's why a lot of Indonesians are multilangual
@RSV_CLIP
@RSV_CLIP 2 жыл бұрын
I can guarantee one thing, its not because the education system.
@diniza
@diniza 2 жыл бұрын
In my country: Malay = official language Chinese =for work or just born Chinese Tamil= born Indian abd learn it in SJK English = second official language (must learn at most schools) Arabic = for Muslim people ( not mandatory ) Indonesian = cuz most video only has Indo subs (only people suck at Eng ig) Japanese= usually weeb Korean = K-pop fans
@sy4z117
@sy4z117 2 жыл бұрын
let me guess where are you from: Malaysia?
@diniza
@diniza 2 жыл бұрын
@@sy4z117 is that even a question
@sy4z117
@sy4z117 2 жыл бұрын
@@diniza yeah. I just guessing
@Wisnu_Ardi384
@Wisnu_Ardi384 2 жыл бұрын
Indonesia have many differents language in local and if they move to other city maybe will hear the local language of the city and must understand it but if dont just use basic indonesians language. I, in first place dont wanna learn new language is just most thoughts in my head but after move local island (java > kalimantan) on 7 years I'm used to new of their language, and then a feeling of wanting to learn another new language came into my mind. Most people who are multilingual are people who are forced to learn and rarely know people who are interested in a new language in my experience
@Wisnu_Ardi384
@Wisnu_Ardi384 2 жыл бұрын
It's possible that people will be able to have multiple languages ​​if the country has a variety of languages ​​too and they are interested too
@gardawg
@gardawg 2 жыл бұрын
For legit answers, I believe It has to do with our history since Indonesia got invaded by European countries since 1509. Languages became mixed with each other and throughout decades our species has flexible tounge because we've been through any culture shock challenges. Since we got our sovereignty after Japan lose in WW2, our ancestors build an Ideology which simply means to respect each other cultures and be united. That is why we have so much talent for different cultures, we simply love all of them.
@Norrikan
@Norrikan 2 жыл бұрын
When I was on Vacation in Indonesia I got along with English exceedingly well, since like 90% of the people spoke it at least at a good conversational level; the only problem was the very occasional incomprehensible accent. But what really surprised me was how many people would, upon learning where I'm from, bust out perfectly adequate basic German or French (the latter mostly better than mine, embarrassingly enough).
@cbalinefourcba4615
@cbalinefourcba4615 2 жыл бұрын
said by Kiara who is not any less amazing in that regard.
@gamyaabiroma2919
@gamyaabiroma2919 Жыл бұрын
Sd : b. Indonesia, Inggris, daerah Smp : b. Indonesia, Inggris, arab Madrasah : b. Indonesia, arab Sma: b. Indonesia, Inggris, japan/Perancis Kuliah: b. Mesin Nongkrong : b. Gaul Sms : b. Singkat Kerja : b. Formal
@farizakbari1545
@farizakbari1545 2 жыл бұрын
At least we Indonesian learn 4 to 5 languages: Indonesian, English, 1or 2 local language, 1 extra language self taught
@prajawb
@prajawb 2 жыл бұрын
I laughed so hard at *"Good Education System"* part. As an Indonesian I heard that like a bullsh*t.
@thekingBruuuh
@thekingBruuuh 2 жыл бұрын
Lol same. From what i experience is, i don't learn any sh*t from school, i learn everything myself. That's how bad Indonesia's Education System
@Iluvatar196
@Iluvatar196 2 жыл бұрын
*This is too serious, and too long, just skip this comment* I would like to add on to the discussion in the comments, about a subject which most people havent mentioned. I would like to believe that Indonesia's status as a country, is between third world country and first world country. Yes we are good enough in some sector, but we are also completely behind in some other sector (public transportation, corruption, to name a few) Im oversimplifying and overgeneralizing a lot of things, but basically, we learn foreign language in hope that we can live/build a business/build a career in a "better" country OR use the language to connect to foreign people in hope that we can make a job out of it, but if you're already a native in the aforementioned "better" country, then of course you dont need to learn new languages. CMIIW, but I think that that's why so many korean/japanese people either cant speak English or have poor English skill. (Again, overgeneralizing, I'm sorry) Because they live in an already-good-enough country, why would they bother learn English?
@ramza8355
@ramza8355 2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion Malay (The root of Bahasa Indonesia) makes the user's tongue flexible to speak in other languages. To answer that question, we need to go back to understand how and why Bahasa Indonesia has been created. Back in the days when Bahasa Indonesia is not even the lingua franca yet, there are so many people from their own region each with their own mother languages such as Javanese, Betawi, Sundanese, Borneo, Papua, and hundreds more. Our so called founding fathers need to unite all of these people. But to unite also means we have to understand each other regardless where we come from. So they expand Malay language to create Bahasa Indonesia. In the first place, the main purpose of Bahasa Indonesia is to unite all of different people with different languages (at least those from Nusantara). This new language (Bahasa Indonesia) is pretty simple and has straightforward pronunciation. This simplicity makes the user who learn Bahasa Indonesia first as their mother language able to learn other complex languages. And yeah because Malay is the root of Bahasa Indonesia, SEA also has this tongue flexibility. It's actually pretty interesting. I also wonder the evolution of Malay language itself from thousand years ago. Because geographically, SEA has been the intersection of world trade activity. Maybe that's also why Malay language makes the user tongue flexible.
@moores4415
@moores4415 2 жыл бұрын
Well you know SEA things, Indonesia Malaysia, Philippines, Singapore. Their first language is most likely regional language and then Bahasa Indonesia or other way around, then English ofc the lingua Franca, then In high school most school taught either france, Japanese or Germany. Well that at least what i know in Indonesia can't confirm anything for the other SEA but i'm pretty sure English is a primary language for SEA, most people understand it or a passive speaker at the very least. and to add more, Iofi often use Regional Language that is Sundanese she even taught Sundanese from time to time. She even taught Sundanese sanskrit that is soo hard to read. So it's not that the education system is good if i have to say we have so many things to improve, but at least it's free from 1st grade to 12th grade for public school so can't complain much about it either.
@dany_prayogo
@dany_prayogo 2 жыл бұрын
Well, if you can speak japanese fluently, it's a plus for cover corp when you go for auditions, so yeah the one who get accepted will be the one who fluent speak multiple languages
@alvinjan3486
@alvinjan3486 2 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie. Most South East Asians can speak a language fluently. This will change Kiara's mind. Filipino language is the hardest language xD. Japanese is not that hard. Kanji is the only thing making Japanese seems hard but to be fair Filipino language is the hardest language well atleast for me P.S I'm a Filipino but I only knew some deep Filipino words out there xD
@cxqcrosswa3372
@cxqcrosswa3372 2 жыл бұрын
If you will well educated in Indonesia people here atleast can speak 2-4 language, most of educated indoneisan can speak 3 (Indoneisan, English, thier mother tongue language(600 ish language through out the whole indonesia)), just a little fun fact, so zeta might be able to speak 5 language, her mother tongue language that she didn't mention.
@GoogleAccount0729
@GoogleAccount0729 2 жыл бұрын
Well Bilinguals are getting more common in asia i have some friends and 20% were bilinguals
@alfonsuskristo1624
@alfonsuskristo1624 2 жыл бұрын
Most Indonesian children learn 3 languages in school: Indonesian, their tribal language, and English. (The other languages are just extras usually)
@printsilent7917
@printsilent7917 2 жыл бұрын
Fyi Indonesia has so many regional languages Like javanese, and sundanese. The fun fact, Javanese and Sundanese can't communicate if they use their own language
@budiyanto4680
@budiyanto4680 2 жыл бұрын
indonesian and english from school, if they know japanese means they watch anime, korean language means they love k-pop/k-drama
@Kartoffie
@Kartoffie 2 жыл бұрын
indonesia somehow hold the title of worlds most trilingual country so theres that. also universities here offers various european and asian languages major too
@DINGOlord
@DINGOlord 2 жыл бұрын
I just assumed that HoloID has been recruiting many Ojou types with foreign studies?
@atrinia5788
@atrinia5788 2 жыл бұрын
many of us watch anime/kdrama with english sub, so it's already a three step learning process i suppose
@shiony3975
@shiony3975 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, never thought there was so many people here respect for indonesian You guys also got my respect 🙏🙏 (Btw my language was only indonesian, english, japan (little), and bali)
@hoodahek
@hoodahek 2 жыл бұрын
its natural to have ur own regional + national then English then others would probably be learnt from school
@HartSickle
@HartSickle 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah Hololive Indonesia is popular in America and other English-speaking countries, so they definitely choose girls who can speak English as well. Speaking Japanese is also a plus in auditions because they can collab with Hololive Japan much more easily.
@fallenqiqi4840
@fallenqiqi4840 2 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of discrepancies of Indonesian who can speak multiple languages and the one who only speak bahasa
@theunknown1760
@theunknown1760 2 жыл бұрын
I think its common for southeast Asian to be multilingual I mean look at the languages they speak its a lot
@terenceplayzz3643
@terenceplayzz3643 2 жыл бұрын
As an Indonesian, I agree that our educational system is pretty advanced. But the problem is that some kids are just too lazy with learning and ends up uneducated. Basic Indonesian schools usually have English, Mandarin and Sudanese as their language subject so it's common to see us speaking 3-5 languages
@rokkon6936
@rokkon6936 2 жыл бұрын
Becoz laifu is tough and anime is interesting...and waifu is real
@Ahartono99
@Ahartono99 2 жыл бұрын
Really good education system..... :D yeah right......:D
@BlackFantasy470
@BlackFantasy470 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know about the requirements Hololive has for their auditions but maybe ID branch only takes people in consideration who know at least 2 foreign languages. If it really rooted in their education system that would be great but would make me really jealous. I would have really liked to learn some interesting language in school (like Japanese) but, honestly, the education system in Germany is crap.
@aadipdip1326
@aadipdip1326 2 жыл бұрын
we mostly forget about it when we graduate, for me i only remember Ich bin, du bist, danke, und entschuldigung... 😆
@Rizky-xv4kz
@Rizky-xv4kz 2 жыл бұрын
Wait until they knew how many local/regional languages here in ID
@slumberstudio4757
@slumberstudio4757 2 жыл бұрын
1:31 i almost spitted and chocked when she talk about the education system
@triyanto6633
@triyanto6633 2 жыл бұрын
our educational system? no, its not. its getting better tho ...
@ninomaeputanginanis-kfp
@ninomaeputanginanis-kfp 2 жыл бұрын
"Back in my day, when we debuted..." -Granma kiwawa
@andhika7452
@andhika7452 2 жыл бұрын
The way Kiara said "debut" sounds like "debus" in my ears
@MrChebek
@MrChebek 2 жыл бұрын
And moona with KSZK debut
@justapleb7096
@justapleb7096 2 жыл бұрын
Short answer, education system in regards to language education is just as bad as any other country when they want to teach their students a foreign language. In terms of languages that we speak, usually people know 2 languages from the get go as in Indonesian and whatever their regional language is (for example javanese and sundanese), as for English, most people (at least in the island of Java which is the most populated) can *understand* them quite well and can speak in a basic manner, but in terms of speaking English fluently with almost no hint of an accent like most holoID members can, then no. Speaking English fluently with almost no hints of an accent is still a rarity here, even in the capital. As for other foreign languages beside English, then it's just a hobby. The people that you see in the ID cast are a rarity when it comes to foreign language fluency. These people are spectacular.
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