THE ULTIMATE BMW F80 M3 & M4 F82/F83 SPACER GUIDE FOR BEST FITMENT

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Hey Everyone,
In today's video, we're going to help YOU decide what spacers would be best on your F80. F82 or F83. In this video, we will show you examples of 10mm, 12mm, 15mm, and 20 mm.
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Bryan
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[@MySkyisClear]

This channel will make anyone feel confident about owning a BMW. The shots and details in this video are fantastic!

[@kamikazei]

Loved the multiple camera angles (seeing the frame-by-frame size comparisons was really informative). Great video, IMO one of the best vids you've put out in the past little while. I agree that 15 (FR) and 20 (Rear) is the nicest. But I'd be worried about rubbing too.

[@Rayzor1502]

12f and 15r looks the best 😁

[@biggboi1967]

I have 12 in the front and 15 in the rear on F30, and the fitment is on point. Thanks, Brian for putting this together for your subscribers. This shit is a lot of work.

[@inf187]

I can't emphasize how much I appreciate this kind of content. I have a 2017 F82 comp package and this channel and a few others are my go-to's before I do anything to my car. Thanks so much for the concise videos.

[@E9JMX]

12 front & 15 rear is perfect

[@damion2449]

The details of this video makes your channel the best for F80 owners. I have referenced your videos before performing many upgrades on my F80 since I purchased it in 2017. I run 12 in the front and 15 rear, but installed them years ago.

[@Just1MoreMod]

Killed it with the multiple angles!! 🤟🏼

[@Rmayrap]

this is the greatest spacer video i have ever seen, i would do 20mm rear and 18mm front for the perfect look. thank you guys

[@jpbredenkamp5091]

Personally like the 20 and 20mm front and rear! Looks great Brian, thanks for the video

[@hevendranarayansamy2793]

Yeah I'm with you. 20 all round

[@ramalusubov7623]

With the 20mm in the front it rubs on the bumper really bad. So better go with 12.5mm on the front and 20 for the rear.

[@RodClinard]

Huge help. Especially about needing a wheel stud conv. Great vid!

[@marsdahustler]

20/20 best combo

[@davidsmallridge832]

What are the positive/negative consequences, in handling, from the installation of the spacers?

[@llkjjjss]

Best comment

[@5tmvgy4k]

Yep agree. Wod be good to hear what the effect of each is on handling. Plus you could get to use the DJI as chase-plane 👍😎, win win.

[@kamilm4656]

With bigger spacers on the back car will understeer a lot easier because more grip from the rear

[@GimliTehDwarf]

For me 15mm spacers all around made my car feel more planted in turns. Also what Imon mentioned can be solved easily with throttle.

[@Peanutdenver]

Your suspension is set up for the designed wheelbase and /track/width/etc, so it won't perform as designed optimally. But for street use it won't make a huge difference unless you go crazy with your spacer width. Track days are a bit different, but all relative to how much wider you're going without making the proper suspension changes for the spacers you've added.

[@robertperez274]

literally was thinking about spacers! The best video!

[@heritage1550]

I run 12mm on the front and 10mm on the back on my M3 CS.

[@quanbaldwin3610]

Just giving credit where do you guys knock this video out the park great content keep up the good work and I'll continue to watch who won the 500 bucks🤔

[@AdrianSinner97]

you guys are gold. period.

[@kraftsoundmotorsport9748]

Very good video. Now I know with what to go on my M4. Thanks for the work.

[@fullybitchslap101]

Thank you for making this amazing and helpful video

[@GimliTehDwarf]

Wish I saw this before I bought amazing video idea and videography thank you! Either way I went with 15mm spacers all around and am super happy with stock ride height.

[@flexspec]

Great video! So much value in it.

[@rafailagheorghita]

4:32 just perfect! perfect! 10+ for this way to show and compare!

[@mus4ddiq]

Great content! I had 12mm all around on my M3 666m wheels. Dropped on Kw has kit

[@johnnylima784]

Great video. Wish I had watched this before I made my choice.Would have made things much easier! I went with KW 12,5mm all round and am very happy with my choice. Nothing too aggressive and zero fender rubbing, even lowered with the BMW HAS kit. Question: Is a wheel alignment required after fitting spacers?i’ve always wondered?

[@jendersonpen7175]

I have 20mm spacers front and rear from burger tuning. On 19” stock 437 wheels, car was driving straight and first then I had to get an alignment took the guy 3 tries on and off the lift to perfect the camber, caster, toe and make the stereo wheel straight but I’m good now lol

[@KiesMotorsports]

Nice! It was a little too aggressive for me, but it looks good!

[@pleon1978]

Helpful video guys!!

[@musamanjati5268]

10X12 Looks just right: OEM-like

[@jbrown7403]

I run 12mm in front and 10mm in rear on my F82 w/ 20” 666 wheels. Looks great and no real risk of rock chips. 👍

[@andrewng7110]

what brand spacers are you using. I have the same setup and want 12mm all around. Lowered on m performance has.

[@andresfr0121]

awesome editing bro !!

[@jake_spence]

By far the best spacer video I've ever come across! The comparisons at 4:30 are perfect. Gonna have to get a set for when I'm rocking the 437M's.

[@TheCrazyhpye]

Hi my is Doron and I have a 2009 bmw e90 and I have 15 at the front and 18 at the back and they’re great!!

[@lucc7116]

amazing video thank u for the time an quality bro i really appreciate it

[@forsurejigga]

15F/18R is the best fitment imo!

[@ametelezkurtaj6133]

With 666 whels 15-20 its absolutely my choice thnx for video as always best explanation 👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻

[@Fabiolucco69]

Big up for this good job 👍👍

[@Kuma_Cordova]

12s front and 15s rear is the ideal combo IMO. Car looks amazing geeezzzzz #👏 Awesome Vid.

[@FreshAndSimple]

Fire video!!! 🔥

[@SimplyCarThings]

Such good content you guys never fail to impress! 🔌🔥

[@DownShiftThrottle]

Hey Bryan. I'm running same wheels as yours on my F82, its lowered by 20mm all round and running 12/15mm front/rear. Visit my channel to have a look and let me know what you think.

[@MrDrivingFaster]

Really helpful video where we can see all the options. I think with about 2.5 degrees neg camber the 20mm will be dope and with no rubbing, even with lowering springs

[@keebs_yo787]

My F80 is lowered on the M-performance HAS and 437M wheels with 12mm spacers on all four corners.

[@KilaByte33]

I'm on Eibachs, 437Ms as well and also running a 12 square setup, I wonder how far we could push them before things start making contact.

[@BosaFTW]

KilaByte33 I want to put the Eibach Pro Kit on my M4 and spacers and struggling between 12 on all four or 15 on all four. I don‘t want to mix things up like 12 front and 15 rear. Did you try 15 on all four? Really don‘t know what to do lol

[@legendgalaxy]

@@BosaFTW did you ever make a decision?

[@julian1988julian]

Great job. I admire you. Go further

[@alfarrouq9756]

If you have the larger 19 inch rims on the f80 I did 12.5mm front and back and it aligned perfectly with the body without any rubbing. This is probably the best setup if you’re going to lower the vehicle as well.

[@Adam-ts8zf]

Akhi what springs you running?

[@hizmawee7611]

@@Adam-ts8zf yo did yo ever find out

[@miguelramirez-rc6zt]

I run 20 front and back it looks amazing in the stock wheels

[@damianforrao5214]

Any rubbing?

[@talalrajab8429]

@@damianforrao5214 I just wanted to ask the same question

[@MrPocketRocket]

Hey guys, great video! Would be awesome if you could make a similar video for the G20 platform please! Many thanks!

[@kedde1]

How much would you recommend to lower an F82 M4 when running original 19" wheels and planning on adding 15/20mm spacers- Tyre size is 255/35 front and 275/35 rear

[@tommy.m4]

Hi Bryan, I‘m using a 10mm Eibach Pro Spacer Kit in the front and rear and a Eibach Pro Kit of lowering springs 20/20 on my 2018 M4 Competition but it stands on M666 Wheels. Best Greetings from good old Germany 🇩🇪 and keep it up, Tommy

[@vollcare4076]

Tommy M4 is 10mm allowed on the rear? It’s not on F20 chassis!

[@Jy908]

Are spacers normally used for oem wheels? Do aftermarket wheels require spacers for better fitment as well?

[@M4chingy]

If I was gonna put Michelin PSS 295/30/19 on rear, do I need spacers? Thank you

[@miguel141980]

Great job, like always! Quick question, when adding spacers, are you required to get an alignment?

[@GimliTehDwarf]

No

[@slicksvillage6920]

What’s the benefit of having spacers?

[@vollcare4076]

Why do you want to install wider spacer on the rear than on the front? Why not equal sizes or bigger ones at the front?

[@4baggin]

Isn’t the m3 rear fender slightly wider than the m4 ? So maybe 12’s all around for m4 ?

[@ivanfider1631]

F30 15 and 15

[@robhinze8626]

Awesome!! Thanks for taking the time to do this!! I have a set of 15s all around that I haven't put on yet, now I know I made the right choice!!

[@slicksvillage6920]

Will the car drive ok with spacers

[@rajahfl]

Great video!! I've been looking for a video like this for a long time. I have an F93 and I run 15s in the front and 12s in the rear. I'm afraid the 12s in the rear might rub a little but not sure. Can you tell me if you think 12s in the back is ok and if wheels spacers would cause high speed vibration?

[@Kieoryy]

I run 12s all around on my f82 and it’s literally PERFECT gang💯🤌🏿no problems rubbing or having to worry about ANYTHING

[@chrischilds9998]

Tire sizes used in the video? Info is appreciated

[@talalrajab8429]

Any issues with rubbing ??? With 20 front and 20 rears??? Im very concered i run the stock 19” wheels and tires with stock suspension.

[@pulhey67]

One of the online sellers that I asked saying 10mm will break the hubcentric ring of the spacer on 2016 F82 and he suggested minimum of 12mm for this model. Did you notice any issues of the 10mm fitment? Thanks

[@PrimeShineCleaning]

I’m stuck, I’m running H&R Supersports on my f30 and don’t know how wide I can go without rubbing 😒 you guys have some tips for me ? 🙏

[@jfan2z]

Brian I recently installed 12mm up front, I have a 255/40/19 and I'm getting slight rubbing while turning. any tips on how to fix this besides new tires? thanks man

[@KilaByte33]

Your tire is too tall, I had rubbing with my winters since like a dummy I left the spacers on. You either go to 35s or try a 10 MM spacer maybe? I'd personally do 35s

[@julian-ny7fq]

what tire size were these? i have 245/35 front & 275/35 rear if i use 12mm front & 15 mm rear will it look bad? do you know ?

[@danieljordan5572]

I don't have spacers yet, what would be recommended for 330i sport g20?

[@frankjdm4636]

Thanks will be doing the 15Front and 20Rear 👍 Love the Aggressive Look

[@AbletonLiveTechs]

did you do it? i did 15 front and 20 in back and idk the front seems little too bulky imo

[@rdhunterx]

Love your videos! Thanks for educating our community and I personally appreciate the knowledge!

[@TheSundaeDrive]

another great video that makes answering customer questions easy :)

[@dion_the_entrepreneur]

15 all around looks clean with less concern for rubbing if lowering and tracking your car

[@ajleyco3264]

Dion Waller any issues with rock chips on side panels from 15mm front spacers?

[@alexandershipley8103]

I love this channel, Kiesmotorsports is super informative! It's actually inspired me to start my own channel, I've uploaded a few videos mainly of my ls chevelle build but my bmw f10 535i msport will be getting some love soon too. Maybe some of you guys could check my channel out and give me some tips to make my vids better this like channel.

[@Kbltgamers]

What is the name of the color? It looks great!

[@alextsang7858]

Do you need to roll fender for using 15mm all around?

[@RoRo-oh1td]

Good video, I have a 2017 f80 lowered on H&R Super Sport Springs and running a 12mm spacers front and rear.

[@robyoung9267]

Brian, Great video.!..Do you need to have the car Aligned after installing any size spacers? Or did anyone have to Aligned your car as well?

[@BosaFTW]

Anybody running Eibach Pro Kit and 15mm spacers on all four stock 437 wheels?? I am thinking about 12mm on all four or 15mm on all four. Any experiences?

[@ThePatrickBateman69]

Tbh 12.5 in front and 15 in rear is the perfect setup, you don't want too much in the front or else you lose that turning angle and feel, and 15 in the rear is the perfect amount of poke without looking absolutely comical

[@EwanBrooks]

F32 428-435i Slammed down with Air, what's the widest I can go front and back without rubbing issues? 15 Front + 20 Back? Someone let me know!

[@88jdiesel]

What does spacers do for a vehicle? I've never used them before, ever.

[@collinrausch1362]

FATHEROFNATIONS they just have the tires poke out more and give it more of a stance

[@nikodemsikora4127]

How much Lowered is this car?

[@aklol7384]

Hi I have an BMW x6 2008 model I went to install a range rover alloys so I have everything sorted jut need long bolts because I'm using wheels spacers 20mm where can I get the long conversation bolts? many thanks for the video

[@SIRafael98]

i have e90 (not M) but with m pack interior and exterior +m sport suspension and a pair of japan racing jr36 on it. its ok 12mm +15mm?

[@jd14610]

M4 convertible. 12 & 12. H&R Sport Springs. Does not rub, even with 4 adults inside.

[@rahmatmahmud612]

Hi , as u mention, your F80 fix with Bilstein B16 ( EDC ) can you make a review. My F82 fix with same kit , much more better handling then OE ,tq.

[@WanRidzwan]

This is awesome

[@vollcare4076]

10mm on the rear is not possible/allowed due to too thick hub centering, at least that’s the case for F20/21/22/23. Same for F30 and F80?

[@josephbowie8284]

Hey Brian where are you guys located at and do you all sell the spacers and the upgraded bolts for a 2018 M4 competition can I bring the car to you and have all of that installed?

[@anthonyisgro7185]

Would y'all be willing to make this video for the M2+ crowd? 🙏🙏🙏

[@jasonpaul472]

Hi Brian I currently have on 20s on 225/30 with H&R Super Sport Springs which size spacers would you recommend.

[@homelate1306]

First!

[@MaRaChan7]

what tire size tire was the rear and fronts?

[@timsmith8242]

does this mess with your handling and does it cause any vibrations at high speed?

[@thesimpleonel2391]

If you buy quality ones they shouldn't do anything noticeable in terms of performance i have 10 in the back and i went up to 220kmh/137mph and there were no problems

[@redcollins2]

It should not effect handling if you buy hub centric spacers and don’t go thicker than suggested.

[@jrposadas1988]

Hey Brian, i have a 2018 BMW M3 comp package. And i installed 18mm spacers all around and im getting rubbing on the front stock tires. What would you recommend for the fronts?

[@sufficetosay]

C Straley 1 second ago I put michelin 4S 305's on the back of my comp and it looks amazing. Way better than using spacers imo and better meat on the ground for traction. The gap is super small to the bottom of the wheel well and the stance is just sick. I was worried the handling might be compromised but exactly the opposite is what happened. Best cosmetic decision so far other than a rear spoiler.

[@tractioncontroldelete]

Lowered on DINAN HAS - 1inch drop in front and 1/2inch drop in rear - 15F - 7.5R

[@autofanaticasia2746]

Great content! Really helpful. Hey can you make a video about tire size upgrade in staggered (ex 19x9.5 on 265/35/19 front and 19x10.5 295/35/19 rear) and square set up. Pros and cons? Best set up? Your recommendations matter.

[@marrk_mp]

Does anyone know the offset on those set of wheels ?

[@theprodistini2590]

Ordered 12mm and 15mm for my 2015 328d sportwagon. hope it gives it a more aggressive stance. i may regret not going 15 and 15.

[@f80corey]

I went with 12mm/12mm for my M666 wheels. Great video Brian. Thanks

[@johnnylima784]

Same here😃

[@johnnylima784]

Came out great

[@frnvito]

20 front 20 rear all day

[@teezy_s]

F30 .. no spacers but 19x9j et35 front 19x10j et40 rear

[@RabidWeaselz]

I run 12mm front and 10mm rear on my F80. Going too big risks rock chips even with Tommy's flaps. Thanks for the vid!