Kiith Gaalsien - War Has Been Forced Upon Us

May there be peace on Kharak once again.

[@Marth667]

Can you imagine, a fleshed out TV series that explained the events of home world from start to finish? Season 1 show the events of DoK, Season 2 the events of building the mothership and its departure, Season 3 its journey to homeworld, Season 4 the events of the final battle and unification of homeworld, Season 5 the development of the homeworld and the events of the game 'Homeworld: Emergence', Season 6&7 follow the events of Homeworld 2 and season 8 will follow the events of Homeworld 3. I reckon if well done it would be on par with series like the expanse. If only.

[@kabob0077]

May I suggest that the soundtrack be made by at least one of the guys who made the soundtracks for Battlestar Galactica's miniseries, TV show, or Deadlock? Any one of them would probably good for the series and would probably be able to make tracks that are as iconic to Homeworld as The Sense of Six, Are You Alive?, or Kara Remembers are to BSG. However for Season 5 I think something more along the lines of the music that plays during missions in Halo where the Flood are involved would be a great idea given that a season focusing on Cataclysm/Emergence would need an appropriately unsettling and panic inducing score.

[@kordova2182]

@@kabob0077 His name is Bear McCreary and he does amazing work. Check out the OST for Black Sails.....amazing!!

[@kabob0077]

@@kordova2182 Not to sound rude or mean but the guys who did the Miniseries and Deadlock aren't Bear McCreary. I'm saying any of the three would be good for the music of a hypothetical Homeworld series, Bear McCreary and Richard Gibbs both have some ICONIC tracks for Battlestar Galactica and Ash Gibson Greig did an great job filling those shoes with the soundtrack for Deadlock.

[@lachlanthomaslangmead1651]

Ugh don’t get me hoping

[@ravager990]

While the whole homeworld universe is super awesome and has an "alien" feel to it. Id rather it does not get on TV and be perverted and twisted by social media politics and end up ruining it's essence. Give it 10-20 more years for the constant political agenda mob to die down and we can have nice things again and maybe a really good and faithful homeworld TV series :)

[@trygveplaustrum4634]

There are many desert/wasteland-based theocratic factions out there. The Brotherhood of Nod. The Blood Raiders. The Fremen. The Gaalsien have the least media about them but, even so, seem the coolest and most fleshed out. What an amazing job Gearbox did in making them.

[@Coercer]

Deserts of Kharak was made with care and love for the Homeworld franchise, and it shows. It really fleshed out the backstory to the original game. :)

[@ineednochannelyoutube5384]

Gearbox didnt make them.

[@Coercer]

@@ineednochannelyoutube5384 You are correct. BBI made the game, but Gearbox supplied the Homeworld IP, so the game could be set in the Homeworld universe.

[@ineednochannelyoutube5384]

@@Coercer I have seen a lot of people confuse Gearbox for the developer, so I thought it was worth mentioning.

[@Shedovv]

@@Coercer Which killed the Original Shipbreakers. That game would have been so much better. They ended up massively scaling it down. I weep when I look at early dev footage!

[@vinegar3617]

My desert. My Kharak. My Dune!

[@onionman8668]

MY homeworld ! MY mothership ! MY CORES!

[@MR-dc4od]

War has been forced upon us. May there be peace on Kharak. So freaking good. This. This is a villain done right. Because they were even freaking right about bringing down the wrath of celestial powers. Maaaaaann.

[@Nick871203]

they may have been right but they wre being ignorant as well, Kharak was dying. they had only couple 100 years at bst till the planet becomes uninhabiterble, why you think after the war people were motivated enough to building such a ambitious spaceship

[@QuestionableObject]

@@Nick871203 Hindsight is 20/20

[@Bustermachine]

@Phelan It's a little more complicated. Sajuuk was revealed to be ancient precursor ship. But Thematically it is shrouded in mystery and prophecy which the Hiigarans, and Karen in particular, seemingly fulfill.

[@CrestOfArtorias]

Well they were right about a threat for developing spacefaring technology. The problem is that the ancient warnings had losts all their meaning and the reasons for why this threat loomed over them in the first place. So all that remained was a static dogma. That being said, the Higaaran people had to leave Kharak or else they would have perished and the core might have fallen into the hand of the Taidaani in time. Possibly accelerating the decline of the empire and bringing forth Makaan as the true Sajuk-Kahr drowning the universe in darkness. Exactly what the Great Habourship sought to prevent when they convinced the rest of the galaxy to not eradicate Higaara after they had sinned and stood trial for their transgression. It was because of the Great Habourship that the core and the Higaaran people were exiled instead. While darkness touched the Higaraaran people many generations ago, it had to be them who would unite the three, awaken Sajuuk and open the gates. So it was written and so it came to pass.

[@jackwalters5506]

@@Nick871203 it's questionable that the planet would become uninhabitable, even when the great desert consumed the whole planet. I mean, the Gallsiens were able to thrive in the desert. Not only that, but they were able to nearly defeat their much larger northern neighbor, they only ended up losing because they got distracted by the Kartoba and didn't fully commit

[@VindensSaga]

If you want to make a good villain make them human and make them sympathetic.

[@fragrantwinter8233]

I say the human part is optional, so long as you can still make them relatable.

[@VindensSaga]

@@fragrantwinter8233 I don't know what you mean, eloborate please.

[@fragrantwinter8233]

@@VindensSaga I don’t believe the villain necessarily needs to be human to be a good villain, but they do need to be relatable (i.e. sympathetic) on some level.

[@VindensSaga]

@@fragrantwinter8233 I didn't mean human as a race but something you that you can relate to. You relate to other people by their experiences and their struggles even if you don't agree with them, you can still on some way or level still understand or comprehend why they do as they do. That's what makes a villain good, if you can understand their actions, if you can somehow feel for them.

[@fragrantwinter8233]

@@VindensSaga Ah, that makes sense.

[@brok56]

Best part about that, he is not wrong. By going into space, the northerners broke a 4000 Year old treaty.

[@drusskodaav8419]

-SPOILERS!!- he... is actually a she. She removes her helmet at the end, when you defeat her.

[@Jeff-tw7jk]

@@drusskodaav8419 nah this is the big leader

[@drusskodaav8419]

@@Jeff-tw7jk Yup, you are correct, mea culpa. Been a while since I played the game.

[@Jeff-tw7jk]

@@drusskodaav8419 nailed it

[@DartLuke]

Planet was doomed anyway.

[@ericdekker5768]

Homeworld could be the next battlestar galactica, babylon 5 or the expanse if they just made a series about it.

[@joe5hm03]

I hope when they make a movie, they'll cast Ben Cumbersack as the K'Had Sajuuk. The voice fits perfectly.

[@fallenationrise9379]

This video is spine chilling than Sardaukar's chant.

[@teencomment]

Gaalsien's like a science-fiction version of the Mahdists now that I think about it.

[@DrewDracoSune]

Wish I knew the name of the song, especially when it cranks up at 0:39 , I get chills just seeing the fleet of Gaalsein ships floating over the sands.

[@henryhamilton4087]

The Ashoka Arrives

[@pob_42]

Coming back to this because it was the last of good Homeworld. Now we have magic mind-palaces and giantesses.

[@TR-ru7wl]

This is such a good edit

[@Coercer]

Thank you! It was worth the effort. :)

[@commanderwookiecopc806]

How did we go from this to HW3?

[@Coercer]

I really wanted to make something like this for HW3. But with no cool cutscenes and no actual bombastic tracks in the OST, there's not much to work with.

[@miketacos9034]

Wait, is this an official trailer, or did you make it yourself?

[@Coercer]

Hello! I edited this together from different cutscenes and the official soundtrack. :) Hope you like it!

[@miketacos9034]

@@Coercer bro. I love it.

[@dynestis2875]

@@Coercer beautiful job

[@ThePamastymui]

@@Coercer Beautiful.

[@nerag7459]

"Oh baby why have you gotta make you hurt you?"

[@Fulcrum-Edits]

0:45 Just perfect...

[@tektoastium7241]

They were RIGHT

[@Gauntlet1212]

And they were right.

[@CHIMrrshan]

Praise Sajuuk and pass the water ration.

[@Ugenburg]

Sign me up for the Hiigaran Fleet!

[@strykertron232]

Man space bedouins are so cool.

[@Exzyte]

Is it bad that the only Homeworld game that I could beat was Deserts of Kharak? Like, HW1 and HW2 are kinda hard

[@SAarumDoK]

Nice

[@Coercer]

Indeed.

[@CDE9]

0:45 what does the music says?

[@vannadij]

Homeworld 3 where are you??

[@IVediano]

What music is playing on 0:40?

[@Coercer]

It's the track called "We must secure the plateau". It's number 72 from the OST. Hope this helps!

[@IVediano]

@@Coercer thanks!

[@Pilvenuga]

Lisan Al-Gaib!

[@armoredcupcake5383]

kinda has iranian vibe

[@a-sheepof-christ9027]

The Gaalsien leader always reminds me of [the Prophet] Mohammed and that he is a seed and far descendant of Ishmael: the rejected son of Abraham: Mohammed is a child who was promised by God. He is not a true prophet from a Christian viewpoint, because he denies Jesus as Son of God: but God promised Ishmael's Mother Hagar, a ancestor of Mohammed: that her child would become "a great nation" eventhough she was a slave. Many Christians today rightfully oppose Islam, but do evil by insulting [the Prophet] Mohammed - eventhough he descends from "Abraham [our] Father" by his midwife Hagar. It is a harsh thing to see God choosing one over the other. I hope in Jesus all things will one day be reconciled with one another: but only after tribulation, which is soon to come. (the false prophet: 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4, the beast of the sea: Revelation 13:13-18) After all is said and done: "may there be peace on kharak once again"

[@masqueofthereddeath8648]

Coalition FTW

[@benjaminchew8442]

Filthy heretic

[@AnonYmous-dh2zt]

^ Tracked vehicle supremacy

[@Yukikazze]

Worst part is.... they were right, because Coalition won they build the first Mothership made the hyper space jump and Kharak got the Exterminatus treatment

[@Jadefox32]

If they'd built the mothership but decided on testing the jump later they'd of spared their people. Kiith Gaalsien was correct but because of 3000 years of history they (and the rest of the Galaxy) had forgotten the context. Not sure if the remaster contains it but there's a pdf in the original HMW2 release that contains the information between the 2 games (ignoring Cata because it was worked on by another team although Cata stands up as a good addition to the Homeworld Lore anyways.

[@jasonfenton8250]

To be fair, the desert regions were expanding further into arable land and all projections showed that was only going to get worse. 1% or less of the population escaping in the mothership was better than total extinction.

[@Bustermachine]

@@jasonfenton8250 To further elaborate. The worst case scenario was the mothership being destroyed. The consulation prize was the mothership managing to find a new home for its passengers. And the best case scenario was the mothership establishing a colony on a viable new world, and with more abundant resources, then constructing some sort of transport infrastructure to begin the, likely generational, effort of moving the population from Kharak.

[@Karackal]

Having played Homeworld a long time ago really made it hard to shoot at them sometimes.

[@Frakelini]

No one's left. Everything's gone. Kharak is burning.

[@danujus77]

We interrupt homeworld to bring you Dune.

[@Coercer]

This made me laugh. :D

[@kabob0077]

The Sleeper has awakened!

[@AcidiFy574]

Hovertech is a death sentence in the dunes of Arrakis

[@rulerofeverything6294]

​@@AcidiFy574 going to space is heresy when you are from gaalsien in homeworld

[@AcidiFy574]

@@rulerofeverything6294 sooooo you rather get eaten by giant worms ?

[@GurniHallek]

0:45 That dropped harder than athmosphere deprivation device.

[@atnasingetnamn2887]

I return just for that moment, it's so sick.

[@tatuira93]

Me and the boys on our way to cleanse the great desert of filthy griitidim

[@Karackal]

My favourite quote is "You can't run from us in the desert. We are the desert."

[@fragrantwinter8233]

You cannot hide from the Gaalsien in the great desert… For we are the desert.

[@Kevlord22]

I'm so sad this game didn't blow up, it was so amazing. Wish we had more like this.

[@Coercer]

Well, Homeworld 3 is in the works. Maybe we'll get a ground attack section out of that game, too. :D

[@adamofblastworks1517]

@@Coercer I'm not sure if splitting development time like that is a great idea, but it would be cool if they made it work.

[@Coercer]

@@adamofblastworks1517 True! I just mention it because it was part of some very early concept art for HW3. :) IF Hw3 does really well we might get another ground RTS.

[@augustday9483]

@@Coercer Your comment gave me an idea for a Homeworld game in the style of Star Wars Empire at War: A grand strategy RTS with space battles in orbit around planets, then land battles for control of the world. Damn that'd be cool. It would require a really big budget though, and I just don't think the RTS genre is popular enough right now to make it viable. Still, I can dream. 😁

[@Thaidory]

@@adamofblastworks1517 Space Rangers 2 pulled it off almost twenty years ago.

[@void-creature]

"So what if we gave the Fremen hover tanks?"

[@wither5673]

the worst part of all of this is they were COMPLETLEY right, and in a way as the protagonist of this game you doom almost the entire population of kharak to death by hellfire. although you're people would have never found hiigara if we never went to space.

[@nickcher7071]

The planet was dying either way. It was estimated that the Kushan had only 2-3 centuries left (in best case) before the desert would engulf the last polar habitable regions. The extinction in that case would still happen, as complete as with the taidani bombardment, but there wouldn't be any survivors this time without the Mothership

[@vincegalila7211]

​@@nickcher7071 Surely there were other options, geo engineering, Colonization limited within the solar system, enclosed environments

[@brainblessed5814]

They were defeated by Karen in the end. The ultimate humiliation.

[@insanity9329]

And yet even before his death, their leader haven't abandoned his beliefs. As time has proven, he was right. At least partially.

[@fragrantwinter8233]

Close. Defeated by Karen’s ancestor, Rachel.

[@javierguardiola7122]

@@fragrantwinter8233 not Karen, is Karan, with an a

[@crabraptorjesus]

God dam does this get me hyped to play DoK

[@Coercer]

Milkgod Excellent! Mission accomplished! :D

[@AremStefaniaK]

for pacifists, they look awfully well prepared for war, beginning with the overly aggressive styling and paintjobs

[@MikeNolansEngineeringStories]

Si vis pacem, para bellum

[@14112ido]

@@MikeNolansEngineeringStories You beat me to it.

[@guillermocaceres3854]

You can't choice peace if you aren't ready for war. If you are defenseless then your choice have zero value

[@marrqi7wini54]

Pacifism doesn't mean to be completely defenseless. Switzerland is pacifist but nearly every citizen there has automatic weapons, all males serve 1-2 years in the military, and there are numerous secret bunkers, hangers, bridges rigged to explode, and kill zones.

[@AnachronousRex]

Actually, I had a thought about that: You'll notice that in the parts of the cinematic where he's talking, all of the Gaalsien ships are painted tan or yellow? This might just be that the cinematic was made before the Gaalsien ship colors were finalized, but my in-universe explanation is that black/red pain job is exclusively war paint. That as soon as he finished his talk, those people went back home and started repainting all their stuff.

[@exaltedhordes6385]

Kiith Gaalsien did nothing wrong!

[@RedHazeCh]

The funny thing is they technically aren't wrong, under layers of religious mysticism is a piece of truth that'll absolutely sealed their fate in the future

[@desertdude8274]

If they had spent time building defences before the jump this may have never happened. Guess that's what happens after generations of lost context.

[@henrycooper3431]

​@@desertdude8274Kharak had an entire missile defense system that severely weaken the attacking Taiidan force, otherwise we would have faced so much worse when we jump back to Kharak

[@roys.1889]

being fair to the Kiith, they weren't entirely wrong

[@fragrantwinter8233]

Not only were they not wrong, they were absolutely right! It’s too bad they made it sound like a mystical force would smite Kharak out of nowhere, else the other Kiithid might have believed them. (I know they’d forgotten about the war with the Taiidan and treaty as much as the others, but even though the reasons behind their beliefs had faded to mysticism; they still had very good reasons for doing what they did.)

[@Dafeaz]

Both the Coalition and the Gaalsien were right. The Coalition was right that the only hope for their people was to ultimately venture into space. The Gaalsien were right that doing so would ultimately bring the destruction of Kharak.

[@PeferG17]

May the blood sand quiet the great slumber of Sajuuk. The K'had Sajuuk has some of the greatest lines in the game... they end when he pleads with you to not go to space is fantastically written.

[@lordaloa]

This is the perfect video to make People enjoy kharak

[@krzosu]

Gaalsien were wrong - because they thought that wrath of sajuk would be the wrath of god - instead it was a wrath sure - but of the Taidani ergo not gods - just another space race. That is a typical mistake of religious zealots - they had some facts straight but they completely missed the rest of context.

[@ukaszflis828]

But they were right about destruction of a planet, when they reach space.

[@krzosu]

@lis828 Actually no - Taidani didnt care if Higarans went into space - that was not the issue - the issue they've had was about hyperdrive tech. - heck the counstruction of the mothership took decades in the orbit and they were mining the system for resourcess to build it - so no - Taidani didnt care about higarans going into the space so again Gaalsien were wrong about this - and their way would lead to extinction anyway because the planet was becoming too harsh to live on anyway so Gaalsiens way was literaly a dead end and their zealotry would lead to extinction anyway.

[@MonkeSeeMonkeLaugh]

The song in the video is a prayer to Siva( hindu god of destruction).

[@Z0R0zeenee]

He aint wrong

[@thekingzhaul5914]

Homeworld as a whole is like a hidden rose in a desert

[@14112ido]

For a bunch of religious zealots, Gaalsien has one hell of a sick beat.

[@kabob0077]

I wish DoK had mods...

[@killedbytheguardians5545]

Its actually really sad to think about the wars waged on Kharak when you put it into the perspective of Homeworld 1 and how in the end they should have been side by side and are all people of the same world

[@Mandred85]

The worst part is, they were right but also wrong. The destiny of the Kushan was not Kharak but Hiigara.

[@chrissre7935]

NOt as good as OG HM, But still was an amazing game.

[@sergiosaban647]

Can anyone tell me at 0:45 which title is that from the soundtrack? Plz

[@Coercer]

It's the track called "We must secure the plateau". It's number 72 from the OST. Hope this helps!

[@Sorinoir]

both faction try to save the kushankind

[@strikezero01]

its like Dune, but awesome and no giant worm

[@alexandermenschmaschine5361]

This game looks like perfect base for game about Dune.

[@friendlyfire3412]

I was like WTH IS THAT A HALO MUSIC for sec. AND Their everything is hover xD Pretty good game to be honest.

[@RanaRandom]

1:06 the North remembers!!! Valar Dohaeris

[@sakalaath]

Seeing this again, that crowd looks amazing. I wish that we could see crowds on top of the vehicles, or in the environment during gameplay. It would certainly cement the sense of scale better.

[@blacklanner5886]

I can't put my finger on it, but I don't think they want peace.

[@briggs4884]

Well, there can only be one sajuuk-kar

[@insanity9329]

Yes, more screen time for this masterpiece of a game.

[@additiveartificer9365]

man that some impressive Manufacturing Power for a dessert bandit

[@Coercer]

Hehe. As soon as you find those matter converter units to deconstruct matter and make whatever you want with it, manufacturing is pretty straight forward. Who knows what tech they found out there in the desert.

[@killdrod]

He wasn't wrong they did bring the wrath upon themselves

[@VenrezvonVyntari]

Surprised the Sandrats know what a rock is

[@repoman2749]

Good edit here.

[@anonymouskellog6157]

Is this a game and if so what is it?

[@Coercer]

It's Homeworld: Deserts of Kharak. A prequel to the Homeworld space games. It's an RTS game. Quite fun, if I do say so myself.

[@MsRiqueman]

@@Coercer I think its sad that people dont know about this game, it is so good, reinstalled it many times.

[@heyooo4258]

What soundtrack was used at 0:45?

[@Coercer]

It's the track called "We must secure the plateau". It's number 72 from the OST. Hope this helps!

[@heyooo4258]

It does. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it!

[@franceschik1]

@@Coercer I remember that track as "angry gaalsian noises"

[@Coercer]

@@franceschik1 That is quite accurate, hehe he :)

[@karankenZ]

It’s actually a Hindu religious hymn

[@jurcik250]

When the prophesied end of the world really comes and yet it was the right path.

[@DrLynch2009]

#KiithGaalsienwasRight

[@Sorinoir]

wait a minute, all this people aren't gaalsien, they're from coalition, it's coalition uniform, why are they listening to K'had Sajuuk?

[@ydk1k253]

The Gaalsien blame Coalition industrial revolution for the worsening climate on Kharak, really struck a chord with those who still believe in the old kushan ways of the past.

[@nagel133]

looks like planetside 2 vechiles

[@davidaustin5622]

I see you are interested in that religious artifact buried in the sand. I suggest you not disturb that.

[@TheSparrowLooksUp]

Homeworld miniseries, when? Season 1 is the events of the first half of Homeworld. Season two is the last half of Homeworld. Season Three is a flashback to the Deserts of Kharak. Season 4 is Homeworld 2.

[@СашкаБелый-ч6м]

Is it film Dune?

[@Houston-ms3oe]

Ay didn't know you had a YT!!

[@Coercer]

Hey there! I do have a YT, but I need to get back into the groove of posting content. How did you find me? :D

[@Houston-ms3oe]

@@Coercer was wanting to see if YT had any homewold voice lines, and I stumbled on you channel

[@Zelousmarineinspace]

Griitidim

[@guragat2]

Whats music at 0:45

[@Coercer]

It's the track called "We must secure the plateau". It's number 72 from the OST. Hope this helps!

[@StrelokRO]

Is it me, or the Gaalsien speech sounds an awful lot like what Putin keeps on saying?

[@RMX010]

More like US and NATO combined when they bomb Pakistan, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and called it "Threat to democracy" :)

[@taomongkol5921]

The thing is Gaalsiens are partually right about the consequence of entering into space.Putin seem less likely to be right.

[@poopsiepop4179]

"Weapons of Mass Destruction" lest we forget

[@squarek123]

​​@@poopsiepop4179chemical weapons are weapons of mass destruction... Besides, even if there were no WMDs, Saddam was an asshole dictator.

[@zackgraymes3665]

I don't really like the shot at 0:20. not only does the shape eerily ressembles mount Arafat (a highly symbolic place for the muslim community) but I just found a picture that is disturbingly similar to it. I mean, I get that there are similarities, but this is really pushing it. I'm not a fucking terrorist who is preventing people from seeing the truth, Islam is not a tribe.

[@Coercer]

I've looked at the images of mount Arafat and yeah, that's pretty close to the imagery in the game. But that's just it. The artist probably did a google image search and got inspiration from those images. The Homeworld series has always been inspired by themes and imagery from RL sources. There is no way this was meant as some kind of message against your religion.

[@lhemnenn4713]

Well to be fair, in this game the Gaalsian were technically correct, it's just that nothing really justify bloodshed ... The history of planet Kharak is kind of a tragic story ...

[@fragrantwinter8233]

I’m failing to see why you’re so upset. The Gaalsien were the antagonists, yes, but they were ultimately right about everything: All of Kharak suffered greatly for the development of hyperspace technology, billions of lives were snuffed out in an instant. Even if the reasons for their beliefs had become obscured, they were still good reasons.

[@thebighurt2495]

The Homeworld series is actually littered with Biblical references, The Gardens of Kadesh or Tanith.