Kill Team Pariah Nexus - Tau Vs Astartes

[@rathstar]

Great battle report, definitely a subscribe from me. Those heavy interecessors definitely seem tough, and there were quite a few marines for 125 points. Do you think putting a drone controller on the stealth suits and swapping the breachers for gun drones would have helped. I'm not to sold on shield drones would more shots from gun drones have helped. You could have drowned the marines in saves with 4 shots each at 4's to hit at 9" range from each gun drone, and then if the rail rifles hit it could have been closer.

[@wombatwargaming1634]

Thanks! And its hard to say without trying, but in my experience gun drones have a really tough time getting theough 3+ saves in general, having a shield drone screen for a unit with a heavy weapon tends to work better. I'm actually wondering if a crisis suit might not have been the way to go, will think it over for future games.

[@duncanmcewen4922]

Awe, my poor T’au. They really had trouble shooting, which is so sad. The dice were not with the T’au and those heavy intercessors are tough. Thanks for sharing the game.

[@mountainboardwales]

Tau team Definitely needs more Drones. Gun Drones might be good without the -1 for range making them hit in 6s all the time.

[@wombatwargaming1634]

Fair point, was hoping that Breachers might have been more viable with S6 AP-2 at close range, but apparently not!

[@mountainboardwales]

@@wombatwargaming1634 its still only 1 damage. The gun Drones have the potential for 2 injury rolls on the same model, 1 from each Carbine and Saver Protocols as well to keep your Rails safe for longer.

[@mountainboardwales]

On turn 2 you do Saver Protocols wrong. The Bracher had 4 Saves to make against the Combat spec so you would have had to use Saver Protocols 4 times in a row assuming the drone lasted like long enough. As a tactical mistake you definitely should have rerolled the wound roll against the Heavy Intercessor Leader turn 1 because he had no save yet had a good chance of getting a kill.

[@archangle2988]

Yeah and no one should ever use "Fast Dice" against T'au drones, you make one attak and let him decide if he wants to saviour knowing full well that if he does you still have 3 left he could also have to save ... giving him the information that there need to be 4 saviors means its better to let the first hit model die ... because its not only USING Saviour Protocol 4 times but SUCCEEDING 4 times to save your model ..

[@mountainboardwales]

Great game keep up the Kill Team content 😀

[@shamuslockey]

Kept saying no line of sight when there is clearly multiple lines of sight.

[@defleshed2]

41:33 does your other 2 tau with flesh wound need to take break tests? Since the other 2 shake you need to have additional -2

[@wombatwargaming1634]

No, break test only happens once per turn against a single model with the highest leadership if more than half of your team is either dead or injured. The flesh wounded pathfinder and drone took individual nerve tests

[@defleshed2]

@@wombatwargaming1634 sorry I meant to say nerve test not break. edit: Also looking back at it you do have more then half your army shaken, Out of action, and flesh wounded so you do need to take break test

[@mountainboardwales]

The Bad thing is that's not even close to the best team SM can make. some Lightning Claw Veterans and Plasma would have added alot to the Team.

[@Murkglow]

Even without redoing the list at all there are a few things that would make it significantly better. Not being Dark Angels for one (I know the fluff is cool but that has to be the second worst chapter in current kill team. Literally any other choice, other than Raven Guard which is the only one worse, would be better. Keep the paint scheme and just call them something else, unless you're a fluff puritan and will stick with them to the end, in which case hats off to you) and going with Hellstorm Bolt Rifles over Heavy Bolt Rifles (30" 3 Assault is much better than 36" 1 Rapid Fire especially in kill team, -1 ap doesn't remotely make up for one extra shot at close range, two extra shots at long range, and the ability to fire after advancing) immediately makes the list much better with no points/model changes at all.

[@PPPointyEars]

Long-time susbcriber here. I still liked this video BUT I'm not happy with how Games Workshop treated this game. That's the T'au Empire. Floored. Now imagine if the opposing force was one of the forgotten factions like Servants of the Abyss and the Kroot. Or non-meta lists like a mono-Slaanesh Chaos Daemon kill team. As I've opined in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aHumlnSfgsupjMk , it would have been better if Games Workshop just released a balance pass via an errata PDF but no, they had to sell more models. The whole thing is very discouraging. Incremental stats boost changes that focus only on a couple of factions is almost always bad for asymmetrical skirmish-type games. Or they should have started with the low-tier factions first to engage even mroe players to play kill team (more players = more money for them = win-win). But no, it's always Astartes that get the shiny new things. It boggles the mind.

[@wombatwargaming1634]

Have to agree to be honest. What really set KT apart was that basically everyone got something with each release, not so now. Sure they might update it later, but thats yet another book to buy. Would have much preffered to wait a bit longer if it meant every team got changes at once. Currently still trying to dream up a list that could even challenge a casual marine team - admech melee maybe? Will have to see.

[@PPPointyEars]

@@wombatwargaming1634 "basically everyone got something with each release, not so now." "Sure they might update it later, but thats yet another book to buy. " "Would have much preffered to wait a bit longer if it meant every team got changes at once. " Exactly these. I've been posting this exact same opinions on multiple groups as I'm so annoyed at the entire thing. "Currently still trying to dream up a list that could even challenge a casual marine team - admech melee maybe? Will have to see." Although my first love are the Asuryani and the Death Guard, I'm also a Salamanders player. Even if my SMarines collection eclipses my xenos ones, I find this change makes for unsatisfying victories for me. GW has really messed up with this one. :(

[@defleshed2]

Sweet, more priah nexus plz. P.s as you playing against yourself? Your daughter seems to.always be on her phone lol

[@asiabates5310]

*Girlfriend. I think it sounds like he's playing against himself as he narrates what's happening (I spend 2 years deciding on one move lol) 😂

[@archangle2988]

I just hope her name is Meagan or something, because everytime i hear him say "Kevin" and thats a very awkward name for a girl ...

[@duncanmcewen4922]

At least she is playing. I keep trying to get my 15 year old son and he is only sort of interested.