LearntoRaid's Hagara the Stormbinder Strategy Guide (25 Normal)

[@Kinaesthesia1618]

@7aDreamer I don't usually reply to the music questions, but this was irking me a bit. (Not your fault) The track is "Daydream" and the artist is Paul Basic. It is not a remix of Lupe Fiasco's "Daydreamin". Paul Basic and Lupe Fiasco both sampled this (excellently, btw) from the track "Daydream In Blue" by the artist I Monster. As a side note, even though the track name isn't always there, the artists are almost always linked in the video info.

[@HeinrichWinston]

WTH I'm not playing wow anymore and haven't been raiding for quite a while. Still I'm watching all your new guides :D gj with the videosss

[@ArdenWolfwatcher]

@TheWoWGrind True, unless you're like me and have the gear to raid, want to raid, know how to raid, are probably better than some people in the raid, but are unable to get on during most raid nights. LFR is like a godsend to me.

[@JoolsyB]

Great Music (Paul Basic - Daydream (The Mirror). Great guide too. Ty L2R =)

[@AdventsRising]

it seems challenging! reminds me of somehow lady vashj ! would love to see hc mode also! great guide by the way (as always)

[@avenmashiara]

Where does Kina get the music for his videos? This is yet another example of why I love them!

[@greedlusthate]

Huge semi-circle lightning is awesome.

[@TheWoWGrind]

@ArdenWolfwatcher Have you done H rag 25? If so, I doubt you still 1 shot it with no deaths, if you do grats. But the fact of the matter is you can make more of those mistakes on 10man without having it wipe your ride, making 10man easier than 25 man. The only reason you are clearing 25m hardmode fights with no deaths is because they produce almost no damage now, and you are well practiced enough on the mechanics to know what to avoid.

[@lucathemucca]

As always, a great guide. :)

[@ArdenWolfwatcher]

@TheWoWGrind Whether a fight is nerfed or not is unimportant and whether your guild is subpar or the best is unimportant. If you don't know the fight mechanics well enough, make a mistake (since we're all human), or just don't dps fast enough you can still die or even wipe due to some fight mechanics (MC effect, not getting out of Defile fast enough, additional add spawn ect.).

[@Tormented86]

What are the songs/music in the beginning of this vid and Morchok, Zon' ozz, and Yor'sahj vids?

[@Calaytch]

@FonoKun Why would ur resto druid swap from the best healing class.

[@Soldier842]

What is the intro music? It's so awesome ;o

[@RolfRuiz]

@0wastetime0 yes, why? just for the ranged taunt for Focused Assault? I don't get it.

[@ShadowCloaks]

@Balmunka I think its also because theres just more.. 10 man guild than 25 mans O.o just guessing sience its so much easier to make a 10 man rooster.

[@TheWoWGrind]

@SeriphiaValosx That is unimportant, heroic firelands is nerfed to hell in both modes now, no reason to lose anyone unless your guild is subpar. I was speaking of mostly heroic rag anyways since that is the only fight that matters in a 10 vs 25 man argument due to the server first achievement. 10 man heroic rag is much easier and simpler than 25 man heroic ragnaros.

[@7aDreamer]

what version of daydreamin is this? ive checked every lupe fiasco daydreamin dubstep remix on youtube, and cant find this song!!!

[@Delcady]

Hey, whats the name of the song right at the end ?

[@FonoKun]

Kina, are you going to main switch to Holydin next tier? That'd suck, but I understand. I have a good friend who's a really top-notch Druid, but he's thinking of switching because, well... he isn't a Paladin or Shaman. But at least Disc Priests have niches, right? Like Spine.

[@archiev1976]

not for boss, but tanks are needed for elemental adds in storm phase

[@Goblinlikebeing]

@Bourkes15 They're Alliance, What did you expect?

[@0wastetime0]

what is the reason for having 2 tanks on this fight?

[@ZomIIXC]

I got a dumb question, are you guys fighting in the Eye of Eternity ?

[@TheWoWGrind]

@Gokugogeta It's not about combat rezzes, it's about the mechanics being more difficult to deal with in 25 man. I am saying 10 man is easier because I have done both 10 and 25 man heroic progression raiding, something a lot of people commenting on here have not done. People make baseless claims about the difficulty of 1 raid environment or the other. I bet no one who has responded me me has cleared 7/7 hm's this patch.

[@Balmunka]

@EvoVulzian 10 man is so much easier. why do people not realize this? There are 991 guilds currently who have killed Heroic Rag on 10 MAN. There are only 308 guilds that have killed Heroic Rag on 25 man. Also note there are MANY 25 man guilds who chose to kill Heroic Rag on 10 man to "get the kill" for ranks. 10 man is easier. Progression shows it! 1253 guilds have killed Sinestra on 10 man and only 669 on 25 man. People just assume 10 man is harder because there's less people.

[@avenmashiara]

@7aDreamer you can listen to this Paul Basic song on facebook. (Search for 'Paul Basic'.) The whole album is available on iTunes or for free download on prettylightsmusic.c om.

[@MsBrotherF]

I like the sarcasm in both top comments about the same topic...

[@spectacularqt]

When's the Heroic 25m hagara coming out? :D

[@ZomIIXC]

Fighting in the Eye of Eternity? and its not against the reskinned Malygos? Fuck yes!

[@bloodknyte]

@TheWoWGrind sorry, but 25s tend to be much more forgiving. you get 3 rezzes, 25 people to allow some to be carried. the only time 25 mans become harder is when the fight requires spreading out a certain distance from others.

[@Bourkes15]

Need more paladins in your raid?

[@Braindwen]

@iHeeRov2 Haha, it's funny because they brought plenty to every other boss they've covered. It's not like it's going to matter on normal, wouldn't be surprised if they're just bringing whoever's on for PTR testing. Example: 0 druids on Morchok/Zon'ozz. Druids are terrible!

[@CameronTheJedi]

@rightupp It's the same exact place :P

[@worldsman]

@Bourkes15 Haha ;D Well for real they need more huntards

[@xzhou]

all of learn to raid videos got sick background music!

[@poptya]

@iUnitedpk I dont get it

[@langhalsen]

Strategy: -Don't stand in flames -Do what addons tell you

[@FonoKun]

@Calaytch Because as things are right now they're almost unarguably the worst healer in Dragon Soul.

[@SeriphiaValosx]

@TheWoWGrind I actually don't agree at all, I do 25 man Firelands Heroic and we almost never lose a player.

[@rightupp]

the platform is very similar to EOE (Malygos) raid

[@BlueDeathFire]

nice

[@tidus93]

where are the 10 man guides? D:

[@Mdbsup]

Kin, Y U PLAY PALLY? :c.

[@StrongButAwkward]

@iHeeRov2 Our damage is too good, just ask GC. They had to remove us from raids in 4.3 to give the other classes a chance. Also, Jesus Christ lots of green numbers on that screen,

[@Bourkes15]

@cosmicforce741 Finally someone who understands

[@Zozo_uwu_]

@bloodknyte You get 3 rezes cuz you have so much more people in raid, more chances for the raid to fail and screw up. You need more good people at one time and 15 more people to not fail to get through the fight without making mistakes. Don't even ask about fights where you spread, I laugh when i do a fight on 10m compared to 25 at those. 10man makes fight mechanics a joke.

[@TheWoWGrind]

10 man was considerably harder in t11, 25man was considerably harder in t12. IF you don't agree, you haven't experienced it.

[@avenmashiara]

@Kinaesthesia1618 Keep doin what you do! Love your style! =D

[@TheWoWGrind]

It's not about how many players you can carry. It's about how much more difficult the mechanics are to deal with in 25 man than 10 man, and how forgiving the penalties are in 10 man compared to 25 man. Lets say you could carry 3 people in 25m heroics though, and you couldn't carry anyone in 10man. You would still have to have 22 people playing perfectly compared to 10 man, which further validates my point.I've done heroic progression in both 10/25, 25 is definitely harder. You are wrong, sorry.

[@GuyN0ir]

@0wastetime0 10 man only needs one tank

[@Apollus91]

Argue all you want boys and girls, Blizzard themselves have said 25man is harder. So end of discussion

[@iHeeRov2]

Look at all the Hunters in the Raid.....

[@AndreasWB]

@benderbg Reminds me of wotlk, you could never have enough paladins! :p

[@andrefrbk]

I rerolled a priest becauce of kinaesthesia...

[@Sergyy1776]

I watch these just for the music and stupid puns.

[@poptya]

nevermind I get it

[@benderbg]

Only 7 paladins in raid :)

[@cosmicforce741]

@Nucleariasi Haha... what? 25 man is so much easier than 10 man, it's stupid. in a heroic 10 man raid every person must be perfect, there is no other choice. Ever wonder why the best guilds in the world are 25 man guilds?It's easier, it's faster, you have more people = more people than can fuck up. In 10 man normals, you can fail a bit, it's lenient. But 10 man heroics... if everyone is not perfect, you're not going to do it. It's that simple.

[@iiHaVoKx]

inb4first

[@RaGb1522]

@TheWoWGrind WRONG!!!! so FUKIN WRONG, 25ms gives youa chance to carry 1-3 players, while on 10m EVERY single player must do shit right or its a wipe

[@tsh9513]

he talksh kinda phunny

[@CarotideEtude]

please stop pronouncing "L" so annoyingly!!!!