KILLING FLOOR 3 NEWS! - Skill Tree Revealed, 6 Specialists At Launch And More!

[@grannde_]

So basically it’s just the perk system but now it’s locked to a specific character wow they really made the best choices😂

[@zuryan]

didn't they say they would not do that because everyone hates it?

[@grannde_]

@@zuryanthey doubled down on this decision now so I guess they won’t go back on it

[@gen8901]

Here’s an even better decision, dice roll who you play every round. That will sell for sure.

[@cherrydragon3120]

So like, specialists have specialist only perks and equiment. But for universal stuff you van just turn your Foster commando into a Medic with the right choices of purchase from the weapons pod.... Just less efficient at it... but fuck i am deffinetly gonna want a healer gun as the firebug then just to spite the devs... Why introduce speciulistssss when you still give us free choice of half the stuff the game contains D: tripwire is being weird again. Someone stop them

[@stevenking4287]

I mean it's not that deep it's just a character as long as the gameplay is good it's alright

[@gyanprakash7445]

They really see Payday 3 and thought, “We can fuck our game up too!”

[@retro1x201]

The curse of the threequel

[@jasonbrody3983]

The characters aren’t the same type of lore. All characters came from normal lives. These new ones look like a pg-13 Fortnite skins

[@captainsauce5097]

​@@retro1x201 third time's the charm

[@HPLovesCraftsCat]

yep.. rip killing floor

[@Dabeux]

imagine having your entire player base beg for the hero shooter aspect to be removed and retain the class system just for you not to listen. Im not buying this game if they won't listen to the bare minimum of feed back. It's a bad sign for the future.

[@swiftshifty02]

Agreed. I wish they would just remove the hero shooter stuff from the game, but I think it's way too late for that. It's a shame. They never should've added it in the first place lol

[@jasonbrody3983]

Killingfloor 2 listening quick to their community. Seems like management has changed

[@HPLovesCraftsCat]

yup

[@Barot8]

Thanks Path. Those character designs look like they were just clipped from a different fps shooter.

[@PathfinderBoi]

Yup, they look too generic

[@Coswalker27]

Imran looks like he's from cod advance Warfare.

[@lewanjosephnimick9359]

The guy on the right looks soooo dumb

[@Freedomer3]

​@@Coswalker27 agreed I was about to say It fits the futuristic theme I guess

[@Overposting]

​@@TBContent24 bruh we got knights policemen metalheads goths ww2 soldiers etc this is just generic military personnel

[@redangel6217]

I'm just dying inside seeing specialists

[@salted6422]

But it worked out so well for Battlefield 2042! /s.

[@flock657]

tripwire gave birth to this game, only to post-birth abort it and change into an abomination, during KF2 lifespan anyway

[@yoshiyoshi7148]

"Plays Collapsing" Look at KF3 while this is playing

[@JP-jq7ob]

thank you for the breakdown unfortunately I'm not feeling KF3 at all, best of luck to all who are interested

[@steveman751]

I badly want a new KF game but I agree it is not satisfying that itch. I have enjoyed playing other horde shooters that aren't cringe.

[@dezsir2863]

Oh lord, can't we just make a petition or something, this specialist, perk locked to certain characters thing is really not what killing floor is/was. I'm fine with abilities and the "oh shit button" if it fits well into the gameplay because these are interesting at least, but not the generic look and feel of a specialist system. This wouldn't be a very big change either imo, if I understood correctly they are planning to add more char... specialists.. ugh.. for each perk anyways, why not just make it so that every character can be any perk, or hell, if they really want this, make a compromise, after you have maxed out a character on its perk, it can unlock the other perks, one by one even (all hail the grind). One more thing I agree with is the incredibly generic and plain look of characters, they feel like they are from a different universe. To also point out some of the positives the skill tree looks good and I like the customization it gives.

[@Nightshade31401]

We did this week, literally. Tripwire responded and officially told everyone to pound sand, it isn't getting changed.

[@dezsir2863]

@@Nightshade31401 Oh wow, didnt know that, that sucks then. Well let's hope the game will be good anyways, it looks good so far.

[@Reippa]

@@Nightshade31401Well then i wont buy it

[@thedrogba246]

Concord floor 3

[@alanconcepcion]

I still don't like specialist, i'm not buying that.

[@valentinnoonspecial]

Yeah I can't stand it, I'm going to try it but I don't have high hopes

[@Dieci-9]

Same. I'm not giving them a cent. Hopefully enough people do that so they panic and walk this lame ass decision back like the one they had about not allowing players to buy off-perk guns.

[@Hizungaya]

feels like talking about a different game... what does that have to do with KF1 and KF2?? Only the name is the same but a completely different game...

[@PathfinderBoi]

I think that's what they were going for. A whole different game

[@Hizungaya]

@@PathfinderBoi that makes me sad... I was hoping it would be more like KF1. Oppressive atmosphere, fear, creepy environment. KF3 is now more like CoD zombie mode (lame)

[@sadgallington7850]

@@Hizungaya In multiple videos tripwire stated they wanted to go back to their roots, aka kf1. Might be wrong, you can check by yourself on their channel. I remember vaguely that this 2was their sentiment.

[@thisismywill]

Studios want the next fortnite. They don't care about recreating KF1

[@dootmarine1140]

>planning to go to bed >poothfoonder video Bed can wait

[@ket2ZEchoppah]

So I don't hate: -The art style. To me, it looks like a cool marriage of the KF1 horror vibes with the KF2 near-future high-tech mercenary vibes -Downed state and revive system could work in KF -Imran's actually a cool name idc what y'all say -Weapon customization -"Destructable" Zeds i.e. Zeds that don't go down when you dismember them, leading to more dynamic encounters Still not buying it because: -The looks of the Specialists themselves is INCREDIBLY uninspired. All I can say is I like Devlin's baggy pants. Other than that, Imran is completely and utterly dripless. Foster is just Foster (whaddya want me to say) -Mobile game lookin-ahh font, HUD and menu icons -Omnidirectional sprinting is Killing Floor's thing. Leave the dodging mechanics to Darktide -I tolerate Gears 5 Horde because its ultimates are strictly NOT "oh shit" buttons, but abilities you need to time properly and get decent use out of, and more importantly DON'T just exist to murder everything in front of you. I don't need a corrosion-spewing drone, I already have a fucking gun -Tripwire "revealing" to us that you can use off-perk weapons wasn't anything new and the fact that they pretended it was a revelation to make up for the god-awful choice to go down the hero shooter route is frankly insulting. "Now I can use a shotgun as Commando!" oh like you were QUITE LITERALLY ALWAYS ABLE TO??? I'm sorry dawg. I hate being a doomer boy about this kinda stuff, but it's crazy how the one and only thing potential buyers have the hugest issue with is the one thing they're doubling down on the hardest. Really good work went into this game, but unless they swallow their pride and just give us something that resembles the franchise we hold dear, it's gonna be a fumble.

[@gorgita139_yt]

exactly my friend

[@sourcesymbiosismetamorphis2228]

Killing floor lost its unique identity it once had thanks to the modernization of what current games are now, so sad.

[@hody.8381]

The more they reveal, the less I want to play the game. Shame.

[@jellyfishnexus3132]

Those specialists look like something out of the most generic family friendly hero shooter ever. Haven't learned anything from Concord, another hero shooter that failed due to the exact same reason?

[@steveman751]

This is why I am scared, not just because of the bad choices, but after this much backlash, from their entire community, they still follow through. I don't have hope for a game made by a company that refuses to listen to their fans.

[@maboilaurence8227]

Silent hill 2's remake is great because Blooper actually listened to fans' feedback. Tripwire doubling down on the specialists is...not a good sign.

[@ihavenoaffinity]

Tripwire insists on specialists because they need Mr. Foster to sell the rest of their generic character designs. They really couldn't have lifted the rest of their characters from Killing Floor's history too?

[@mattwoodard2535]

The game is supposed to take place a fair amount of time in the future. Mr. Foster isn't the same person as the KF1 and KF2 one, he's a clone. I guess they didn't think cloning to many earlier characters was a good idea (and I agree). They need to make the new characters "pop" though and I'm not seeing it yet. sm

[@yoshiyoshi7148]

I just wanna play DJ Skully (if he even comes back with my Gunslinger/pistol whatever specialist or SWAT related. THATS ALL

[@cherrydragon3120]

Mate, even if your content is quite rare recently. A Killing floor update video by pathgrinder is worthy of a watch :) Deffinetly liking your vibes 😊 Okay wait... so a specialist is Unique at the start of the match and over time you can just.... become anything?? Just not have the specialist only equiment the others have... Then whats the point of specialists??

[@PathfinderBoi]

Yeah you start unique, then buy whaterver lmao

[@DarkWestern]

I can't wait to unbox some cosmetics!

[@carloscentenocastro9005]

The skill system doesn’t look bad, now the only thing I’m not looking forward to is the specialist system and how the specialists look.

[@suffhunter23]

The poll I've made proves players wants perk/classes and almost every comment/feedback i see about specialists are negative yet they keep going with it.....what a shame they are so stubborn

[@joogleplus6244]

The community basically consists of yes-men who are fine with anything, people who don't care as long as it's KF and those who want KF1's atmosphere. So, Tripwire could have satisfied almost everyone or a decent chunk... It would've probably taken less effort to go for a setting they've already done as well... So, obviously, satisfying fewer people was the play. And so here we are, a rebel group called Nightfall... What are we rebelling against exactly? And why are we still fighting the same threat for so many years... We even needed to clone Foster (the only original (enough) design is a clone of a character from previous games... Naturally...). If we can and do clone people then it's clones vs clones... Either Horzine is incompetent or we are... Or both, I guess... A neverending battle of dumb and dumber. Maybe we ARE getting dumber due to cloning... Gun designs are terrible: generic, blocky and mechanically challenged. Character designs go from generic to generic even for a Chinese copy of CoD. The community doesnt want specialists so Tripwire doubles down on them (easier to sell skins since some will want the character while some will want the "class" or both). Dodging makes the game easier alongside a "clear the screen" button. Animations are terrible and so are sounds but they might be imrpoved if we are lucky enough. Very hopeful.

[@randomsteve4279]

You know what Tripewire! Specialist term I don't care, I just care you won't let me any longer play with whatever character I want with whatever perk weapons I'd like

[@johnbacon8394]

true, i don't get why they are locking specialists to characters, only thing i can think of is battle passes for skins and what not for specialists.

[@Mestari1Gaming]

In a year or two after the release of KF3 the devs will start selling weapons and specialists for 10€ per thing. And your favourite character will be locked to using your least favourite perks... I used mr foster with Firebug because he has a gas mask and flamethrower troopers always use gas masks.

[@salted6422]

I'll have a stroke if the Firebug doesn't wear firefighter's mask.

[@ash2roid871]

So instead of having any sort of character identity, you'll see 4 Foster's running around because you have to play him to be commando. Zzz

[@drivanradosivic1357]

While I like the evolution of the Perks with the special ability, character locked perks is what I have issue with.

[@BigMsmallm]

So far KF3 looks like a generic horde shooter and not the meat grinder KF1 and KF2 we all love

[@loms60910ve]

you sould be look no more room in hell 2 that is real normal

[@torvovenator]

I hope they will change this. Look what happened to battlefield 2042...

[@heheundepu8112]

5:27 THEY PUT NOMAD FROM BO3 IN KF3

[@Delicashilous]

7:43 Seems there is a bit more deepth in Gameplay aspects, but for the price of individual characters with class freedom. I give this Game a chance, because in the end I prefer skilltree variety & Gameplay over Character freedom (which gives you only optical change). I miss tanaka, this Guy was badass & hilarious. Firebug should be a man instead of a woman from my Point of view.

[@yagneshraviteja]

"I do love-making videos" -Pfinder @ 0:50 thanks for clarifying Pfinder 🤣🤣

[@jujupants2486]

They really doubling down on being Overfloor huh?

[@kean4218]

Rip killing floor 3 dead on arrival

[@KaysWRLD999]

I don’t wanna bash the game yet cause of the way they did the perk system. It may be good may not be. Just gotta see once it releases 💯

[@Mikel9]

Well, I hope that at least KF 4 goes back to classic perks, because I'm skipping this one.

[@artstar5994]

Love the sidearm change, and other tidbits. I just hope I have the ability to choose who I want my commando to be... I dont like foster, nor do I want to play as a female protagonist. Give us the ability to choose.

[@saverorestuwatari8420]

So let me get this straight. They double down on the specialist system but they will add more characters for each specialist archetype so that people can chose multiple character that goes with your preference specialist (hence why they say there will be more commando, that means each perk/specialist like commando will have multiple characters in the slot other than foster)

[@TheKieselstein]

Sad! The death of another franchise

[@MADOYS]

LETS GOOOO, monthly Newsfinder givin his 2cents!

[@funnyhunter2381]

I think that the following specialists will be 1) A medic- I think it would be logical to add) 2)Sniper - there were snipers in the gameplay show! 3)Berserker - since we were shown an employee with a katana in one of the developer magazines during the creation of the animation! Who agrees?

[@PathfinderBoi]

Can't disagree

[@oni1373]

Makes sense they are really the main core specialists You would want a melee one Medic has to be a thing otherwise it would be dumb for them not to add a medic specialist at launch and for snipers sure idk how high that would be but i can see it happening Overall all concluded i like what they got but i want to see more of this specialist thing

[@Freedomer3]

I mean those are the main perks in the first KF

[@justinlindfors8512]

I think the specialist ability is just something new they wanted to add... Not sure if it makes it less cringe for ya...

[@_FearTheNobodies_]

hopefully when this drops it gets review bombed so they can REVERT the specialist slop. I seriously doubt any kf veterans will enjoy this addition, and I believe we will only be heard through reviews just like how helldivers 2's case has been

[@maxxproductions7749]

love this channel and its dedication to killing floor thank you man for years of info and entertainment

[@rpg247a]

Pathfinder getting more and more based every ID3 video he makes. Just wanting a good game is such a Chad take. Cheers 🍻!

[@rpg247a]

*KF3

[@GamerAddict7796]

Unironically, one of my favourite things about Killing Floor is that the characters have mostly just been random survivors. London bobbies, a couple soldiers sure but then you have day traders, reverends, punks, bikers, Kevo the Chav. I don't want to play as some exo-suit wearing tacti-cool guy, I wanna be a random chav with shitty tactical gear and a fire axe. I love Foster, not as much as others sure, but if Imran and Devlin look so painfully dull and focus tested and THEY were what they chose to showcase? Where's the Mrs. Foster? Or Alberts?

[@Polo-038]

Leaving aside the generic design of the characters and the "specialist" system, the game looks good, at least on paper it sounds good. My problem is that the developers take the game too seriously and that is precisely what made KF different from other franchises, you only have to see the hillbilly horror or summer sideshow event to know that they did not take the story very seriously. Another thing that worries me is the zed time, from what I understood Mr. Foster can activate it with his "skill" so I guess it is no longer random like before which is far from being like the previous games. The positive thing is the possibility of customizing the weapons with different attachments, I hope they know how to balance that because in the end everyone is going to choose the weapon that does the most damage, I hope a beta that makes them see what the fans really want in KF3

[@cristopher8646]

I need to know whats is the reason to lock the skin for each specialist, easilly tripwire change that rule

[@typhoonj6975]

There are features about this game that I'm glad are being implemented like the Crawler wall walking, movement advances and the new weapon modding among other things, but the Specialist situation is frustrating. Also, I prefer it didn't go too far in the Sci fi genre, but I'm not too fussed about that.

[@Tensixeight1]

Seeing all the new ''charaters'' have quite a strong sweet baby inc smell to it :/ i just wanna play a character i like and play all the perks , would hate to be forced to play some lesbian chick to be able to play the firebug now

[@StarScream6541]

I have not watched your videos in a long time, all of a sudden this one showed up for me

[@PathfinderBoi]

Haven't been uploading much

[@smith2354]

Imran really looks like he belongs on the cover of CoD Advanced Warfare

[@sYgmata]

even if they end up reversing their decision after the game releases I still might not buy it because of their reluctance to listen to the community

[@basedlibertyprime]

That’s my biggest issue with the whole thing, at the end of the day the game lives or dies with the community and if we are telling them we don’t want this and they are ignoring us with something so small I can’t even imagine what other poor decisions they could make and be stubborn about changing. Hopefully they gave a helldivers 2 moment where they realize the community is right.

[@dash1141]

Justice for Briar

[@Radi04ctive]

I think this look not bad, to much negativity here, just wait for release and then we cant rant about gameplay and other issues. Yea heaving specific character tied to a perk is not a perfect choice but gameplay, game performance and fun from the game is more important to me.

[@andresj1914]

I hope the other characters aren't basic looking as the two first ones

[@Timbe91]

Naah this is shit. I'll watch poothfundr play on youtube but i ain't buying this. Thanks boss you the mvp for playing!

[@PathfinderBoi]

gotcha fam

[@alexd281]

Really taking one for the team! 😂

[@drivanradosivic1357]

IF every Perk/Class was like Killing Floor 2 aka you merely choose the player character for the looks and voicelines, but Perks are available on everything, and the KF3 Perk upgraded version with a Special ability is just the evolution of that, that would be better.

[@edwardtrooper7027]

Hearing all of this makes me kind of willing to pick this up but I'm still Eh about it. I do hope they will add a survivalist character(DAR)

[@Tricky197]

I guess the one good thing from specialists is once they have multiple commandos for example you can set them up to have different skill loadouts. But they could have just added a skill preset button and it would have accomplished the same thing without pissing people off.. so idk why they're doubling down on this honestly.

[@omegalegion1769]

Im getting cod black ops 3 vibes from this and I'm quite interested to see where this may go.

[@bigbadbennettboy7301]

We get it you dont have to force yourself to make content we will wait for KF3

[@PathfinderBoi]

Ye, but I crave doing videos, just nothing out there, weird predicament I know

[@ufuk5872]

Specialist is what killed 2042, i worried.

[@G-Realla]

Can’t wait for them to add snoop dogg as a specialist so i can stun zeds with my oh shit weed cloud button but on a serious note everything seems decent (not amazing) except the characters that are generic and honestly unappealing

[@dannycurtis3575]

Im hoping that they go the Gears route and let you select characters and classes after a few big updates.

[@zalo9802]

The edits' killin me

[@basedlibertyprime]

The fact that so many people don’t like the specialist system but they are continuing to implement it is not a good sign, if they won’t back down on something this small I can’t imagine how hard headed they will be when it comes to changing other parts of the game that we don’t like. They are making a game for themselves not for killing floor fans.

[@kairo3201]

Ho boy! I sure love being tom banner (and only tom banner) when playing zerk!

[@nicolasM.7.62x51]

So they got that one thing everyone despised from Call of Duty Black Ops 3 and added it into their own game... Wtf are they thinking?

[@SmokeSAS]

This thing is gonna get the payday 3 treatment if they dont fix the character-perk BS.

[@SlCKNESS_]

The skill tree looks concerning, like seriously potentially problematic: All I see from the skill tree is the same 5 passives (we get to pick) we had from KF2, but now considerably less powerful, cause there are another 2 boring branches that are gonna have to bring some power into each perk. Taking away from how good the passives were in KF2. And also we get to unlock these Passives (specifically) every 6 levels now, instead of every 5...truly groundbreaking game design. And the only reason I'm talking about this is because I already disliked EVERYTHING else about the game, this was my last hope.

[@XanSVK]

I love your vids, and I wrote just to boost algorithm

[@sadyeg3423]

Crying over the demo and support combo, I thought they were unique enough separately. I’m wondering after the 6 base specialists then will more slowly release?

[@fairtradepcrepair1]

Next KF should be called Killing Floor Zero and finally take the series back to it's roots.

[@kyleabent]

I don't understand why this is called Killikg Floor. Anyways I was waiting for your feedback, cheers.

[@JeancarlosRPerez]

I am hella excited to give this a try ! Can't wait to finally see new engine K3. I see many folks having opinions about the specialists, I don't mind personally, but I'm gonna save all my judgement until the game is out. Just happy for more PvE content

[@hbdhow]

The characters... They kinda lacking in uh, STYLE?

[@PathfinderBoi]

Thats why theyll do cosmetics

[@Xenomorph2285]

Imagine it killling floor 3 had a cod zombies mod

[@Coswalker27]

I mean, the second game had it was called endless.

[@cristopher8646]

Zzzzz

[@wiffy3067]

Nice, so we can have multiples of the same perk. This was my only worry with the game and I am now at peace.

[@Bear-kb4kt]

Perks>>>> whatever this is

[@basicallybacon2593]

Im Surprised you havent talked about darktide, its a great horde shooter.

[@luisnunezrodriguez9200]

What makes the game fun is changing skin and character, my 3 characters were always Ana, Rae, Sr Foster. Basically KF3 became BO3

[@ericandre9574]

I still have hope.

[@chariie1200]

Okay I don't like the specialist system (surprise surprise) but I can't lie I don't think it's gonna put me off the game, the graphics, weapon customisation, more skill tree customisation kinda seems rad, I don't think it'll feel like the exact same killing floor but I think the game overall will be very enjoyable

[@geepfish7935]

Yay border-floors 5 or is it killing-lands 4?

[@LokoManInvictus]

Man kf3 is gonna be really sensitive i hope they can pull it off but tbh i really hope the game is gonna be fun.

[@sumtingwong8230]

i like foster in 1, but i can say that for all characters in one, had more humor to em imo

[@Paradoraxx]

The more I see the less I want to buy it, I'll just give this game a chance because it's Killing Floor

[@rhyder61]

So they went copy/paste to the Borderlands system. Not a bad game to emulate, the question is how good will they manage to pull it off

[@ADUSN]

The game is a year out and it's already a disaster, this is unprecedented even by payday 3 standards

[@pavolp.6527]

Did you try helldivers 2?

[@swiftshifty02]

Sucks that the specialists are staying. I dont know why Tripwire would do this. Its confusing to me. Great video!

[@Rattaz]

>over under double barrel pyro ak as if it's ever going to work... >generic military cod specialists... >rpg style damage types i dont know about this man...

[@darkoni95]

I can't wait for this amazing game

[@selfelected3832]

Question somebody please answer if Mr Foster is a clone then why couldn't they just bring back everybody as a clone

[@zacks5616]

Kf3 is going to bomb so bad, tripwire is going to fire 3 CEOs

[@iamjogun]

Game is in first person anyway so I don't really care what my character model looks like. Glad to see they expanded on the classes though as KF2 leveling felt pointless.

[@Tergyt]

Not really too fond of the fact that they didn't listen to the community regarding characters being tied to perks and is pretty much doubling down on it. Then again not really surprising considering they added EDARs in KF2 despite everyones grievances with them. I'm also not too fond of the addition of a "Oh ****" button because I feel like It's going to take away a bit from the difficulty (Could be wrong, but still, Not too fond of having it) Customization looks alright, but need a lot more information before I can really get a opinion of it. As it stands now, they pretty much shown how it is, but not how It works (How much % does they change grenades effectiveness etc.). Weapon mods is pretty much the same deal, though I really doubt they'd make that much of a difference. Overall not likely to buy KF3 or at least not sometime after launch just to see how things roll out. Though If I do, I am likely just going to stick with Mr. Foster even If I get somewhat stuck with Commando perk all the time (Commando is my main, so not that much of a loss for me tbh). And also because Imrans and Devlins just looks awful (Devlin looks alright'ish, though I don't disagree she needs a change since both she and Imran looks like they belong in a PVP shooter) That being said though, If they end up releasing DJ Skully behind a big paywall and he's not a Commando, I am not going to be too happy.

[@tomlong9613]

You make the best kf videos.

[@Chonstantin]

Let me create my own specialist...

[@nutzz168]

Eh IDC I just want something new kf 2 is ancient at this point

[@phoroclock]

What happened to the survival horror aspect of the game????