Kiln of the first flame

[@jordans762]

the most epic kiln in all three games

[@DarthOmix]

So long as you could concede that the DS2 kiln is the most...literal.

[@cyoban]

guys how is ds2 related to 1 and 3 I'm so confused, are there more than 1 kiln or wtf is the throne of want? help

[@lsfaraone]

Sven DS2 isn't that related in only that the power of Lords is spread across four individuals, whose power must be acquired to fuel the act of Rekindling. History of DS1 has been long past and forgotten in the kingdom of Drangleic, with assumption and slight evidence towards that Drangleic is built upon what was once Lordran. And as far as the three Kilns, I've always seen it as the Kilns and the Throne of Want are all built upon where the First Flame happens to be at that point in history, with plenty of time for new things to appear when you consider each game is supposedly at least millenia apart.

[@ImWhyMortalsCry]

I'm still trying to make out how the DS3 Kiln of the first Flame is this one There's nothing that looks the same I know hundreds of years have passed but still I mean you could still make out the DS1 Firelink Shrine at the Demon Prince boss fight The well is there and the ruins But I don't see even a small part from DS3 resembling this place from DS1 No matter how often I look around both

[@Monyato]

@@ImWhyMortalsCry anor Londo? Btw the flame is getting weaker so that’s why nations and kingdoms that are supposed to be in different times suddenly merge together, look at the ringed city in DS3 and the starting area in the ringed city is a broken down lothric.

[@mrantin182]

I still have so many questions about so many places in DS 1, like what they were before, etc. Sadly, none of them will ever be answered

[@colman123456]

And maybe thats a good thing. The games already has a ton of lore, which i find way too hard to get into my head. So I kinda like to just enjoy the mysteries, without desiring the answers.

[@Seelensocke]

Sure love how the Kiln in DS1 is Firelink in DS3. Playing DS1 again got me a very cool nostalgia feel about it all.

[@gustavolemos5913]

this dude is the 'Nomad' of dark souls!!! pretty great man

[@metaljacket8128]

The detail...someone was actually paid to make all of this, just for a scenic overlook. Think about that.

[@VasilyMusic]

I know, right. Looks like something straight out of my dreams. This location is actually what really got me into the Dark Souls lore.

[@RivaiwarenaiRivai]

For some reason Kiln of the First Flame seems similar to the Tower of Babel for me.

[@padorosbankai9541]

you stupid we dont know how it looked like if it even existed

[@zonesquestiloveunderworld]

It's definitely based on the famous painting of the Tower of Babel by Pieter Bruegel.

[@RedstoNeman0]

I want to see those walls around the kiln, they're so strange, as if the kiln was a huge cathedral before the rekindling...

[@CrestfallenChannel]

They may be normal walls but its like they are inclined to the center

[@RedstoNeman0]

***** yes, it reminds me of the structures used in roman architecture to hold a dome... and they're made of stone, but the kiln is clearly molten iron beams... (or if it's molten stone then the rekindling actually made the air solid during it...) so much questions...

[@RedstoNeman0]

+Crestfallen (Haunter) and I just realised that the "explosion"? which melt the kiln came from the south, not from the kiln's center, and it happened after the kiln was actually a ruin... this place will never be explained...

[@CrestfallenChannel]

Why you think that?

[@RedstoNeman0]

***** look at the direction of the melt parts, more specificaly the one you can walk on to get to the central area, and for the fact it's already a ruin before the explosion most of the ones lying on the ground only have the "melt" effect on their south-facing part. this is probably just a detail about how old the kiln is really, showing a bit of the cycles.

[@francismcalister7811]

Say what you want, the architecture still reminds me of the tower of Latria from Demon's Souls

[@thegucc593]

yeah i can totally see that. i wish we had more areas with this kind of architecture in the souls series

[@lennysmileyface]

So it's built above a giant tree? Was the tree used as kindling?

[@aromardu]

I think it's the remains of the tree where the First Flame erupted inside. The one we see in the prologue. The camera goes inside of a hole in it and follows the embers down to the cave space where the Flame is.

[@DraconicLich]

NICE

[@TheOneWhoTakes]

+aromardu it's also what the lordvessel at the altar is meant to represent. pretty cool

[@lsfaraone]

Perhaps so, representing the world as the Norse mythology did with Yggdrasil,the Tree of Life. Funnily enough, with Dark Souls 3 in mind, the tree represented with Yggdrasil is the Ash tree. And at least in DS2, the image of Yggdrasil shows up in several places.

[@Gsmooth84]

This version of kiln almost reminds me of the ringed city.

[@namelessking8914]

More like " Anor Londo"

[@OneStarRating]

0:01 Thank You so much Crest!

[@Lord_Chaos000]

What exactly was the Kiln of the first flame? It seems like an ancient fortress or it was simply the place where the first flame was stored? Or it was the place where the Fire lit up for the first time and the fortress was build to contain it? And why can we see that grey sky, weren't we underground?

[@TheAlison1456]

It's crazy to me to think Dark Souls 3 came out in 2016. I still haven't played it, and only saw dlc stuff. Most of the comments are from 4-5 years ago...

[@drowninginthoughts]

I love your debug videos. I hope to see more in the future

[@Erox006]

how much similarity did u find between this and DSIII's kiln area ?

[@dreadknight0]

You can find those melted pilars and if you notice, the kiln is over an Arch tree in dark souls 1 and dark souls 3. Because the flame came from the inside of one of the arch trees, you can see it in the cinematic of Dark Souls 1

[@MasterOfKnowledge.]

Could you do a debug video for the Catacombs or Blighttown if you haven't already? That would be so cool!

[@CrestfallenChannel]

+MasterOfKnowledge yea, theres not much to see in blightown but catacombs can be cool

[@HISPEEDLEVEL]

As Odin said me once - first was a giant Tree

[@nightsage217]

where is the first kiln relative to firelink shrine though? is deep underneath? or in engine speaking, its just floating map away from others.

[@melrpr5874]

The Sun set is an allegory to The flame that IS fading but what is The sky that we are seeing?

[@JonLee123]

The kiln sets on a arch tree stump, so that sky would be like the Ashlake sky? Something like that

[@thisstatementisfalsenothin5312]

Everyone in this game constantly thinking about the first flame but nobody seems concerned about any of the flames after it why is the first special

[@2401blue]

The First Flame is what powers all light and life in the world, as it split formless Whatever into actual Stuff. If it goes out, life as the people of the world know it goes with it.

[@2401blue]

Of course, later games make plain that the continuation of the fire continues a great curse on all living beings, and life as they know it might be better off ended and what remains of the flame, or the idea of life and life, saved for another age rather than an unnatural extension of an older one.

[@thisstatementisfalsenothin5312]

@@2401blue yeah I know

[@TheAlison1456]

The First Flame brought history into motion, it began time, none came before it

[@thisstatementisfalsenothin5312]

@@TheAlison1456 yeah I know