The Song That RUINED Logic

[@VTX-qh7vm]

Who can relate WOO

[@KingBenny]

WOO for life ngl

[@John-mm2yl]

First thing that comes to mind when I think of Logic 😂

[@rayneozier]

🤣💀

[@davesarfo4154]

WOO

[@case8153]

WOO

[@pittythekid]

As someone who played 1-800 when they were thinking about commiting, it was just one of those songs that just helped. It’s just a helping song, and he was not wrong in trying to make a song that just helped.

[@boui.1]

your analysis is soo good. he definitely lost his momentum by rapping about things he didn’t relate to, so the same ppl listening to 1-800 were not going to resonate with his other songs

[@KingBenny]

Thanks. and well yeah killed his hype

[@Wisdumb301]

And this is why people who criticize Logic are always so ignorant to him and don’t know anything anything about him. If you actually knew him or gave the time to listen to him, you’d know he’s actually been able to relate to this subject heavily. It’s crazy people have something to say about this man when he goes out of his comfort zone like other artists tend to and they usually don’t make the best music when they do that. Yet he still managed to make the song blow up.

[@CoalescentFilth]

Listen to under pressure album and comeback to me

[@boui.1]

hey guys, i realized i didn’t mean to say that he didn’t relate to suicide but instead meant to say that 1800 was such a different song compared to his other ones, so the fact that that song blew up majorly drew in the wrong crowd

[@boui.1]

not saying he’s a bad artist, just lost his hype

[@amfq]

i personally still gotta give logic his flowers cause he’s a genuinely talented rapper. the way he uses cadence variety and flow switches in his music shows his real technical ability. homicide is one of my favorite tracks, second place is probably indica badu

[@amfq]

i just don’t even listen to 1-800, i remember how huge it was and hopefully it did help some people but logic’s more authentic music is what caught my attention, like gang related

[@legolokicars5820]

Homicide is fantastic

[@deadboltzz5199]

@@amfq who can relate? Woo

[@lol_histicall4289]

Perfect is also a really good song in my opinion

[@legolokicars5820]

@@lol_histicall4289 i love perfect as well. I got to see logic in concert this past summer and the visuals for perfect really stood out to me for some reason. Basically it was pink with flashes of the lyrics, pretty simple, but i remember it due to how bright it was and how incredibly involved the audience was with the music. That same show also had wiz khalifa, and he had nowhere near as much audience participation as logic did. Logic is a fantastic rapper and entertainer.

[@Fresh_Chapstick]

Saying Logic fell off is such a fallacy. Sure he had those years from 2017-2019 of riding that pop wave, but Logic’s recent discography is better than most artists in the game rn. He had a great send off for his (at the time) retirement with No Pressure, made the Doc D album for the hell of it and it was great. BT3 was pretty luke warm but Vinyl Days is honestly my favorite album of the year. Current day Logic is stronger than any other version.

[@JeliTP_12]

Based on like media recognition, he fell off, he gets so much hate when a larger media page are promoting his music.......imo he is a better rapper than a lot of guys who are liked by the public

[@Fresh_Chapstick]

@@JeliTP_12 true, his streaming numbers have been going down, but that’s just more proof that streaming numbers don’t equal your talent as an artist. Drake releases a half baked album and the whole world shakes but someone like Logic could release a well thought out album and be shut out before people get exposed to it

[@hagelsbagels34]

@@Fresh_Chapstick 100% agreed. his numbers also going down because defjam doesn’t promote him for shit , and he’s been promoting his stuff on tiktok and media, if that.

[@testing_something]

What do you mean by his recent discography?

[@stro5570]

⁠@@testing_somethinghe dropped 2 projects on KZbin after his “retirement”. And they are both pretty good, it’s just not a lot of people care or listen to him anymore.

[@Matthew-hy1bq]

The vague-ness is there so he can help more people, he probably wanted to grasp a wider audience as well. This ssong helped many people,. this stuff is not meant to be taken at a surface level. Also, it's not an anti-suicide song, this is an acceptance song that that happens, and people still want you alive.

[@KingBenny]

I touched on the vagueness of it... I thought it would've worked better with specificity as it can still be relatable... I understand the song helped many ppl and I think its good that it did but in terms of the song artistically its not my favorite

[@Matthew-hy1bq]

@@KingBenny Fair enough, I doubled-back when I posted the comment, I lashed out a bit much, so sorry bout that. However, I think in utilitarianistic terms, the good that has come of the song outweighs the poor quality of the song itself that you are, in a very valid way, talking about (I hope this is sounding polite, trying my best to, genuinely)

[@Matthew-hy1bq]

(Again, so sorry, not tryna stir up arguments, hope you can see my comment in good light! I mean it that way)

[@KingBenny]

@@Matthew-hy1bq no its all good... I welcome disagreements personally its not anything personal for me lol (it also helps me gain perspective for future videos)

[@sekanoms]

Eh, both apply. Vagueness can be interpreted as broad reach but also as general cliches to do with mental health / depression ig and insincerity Being specific can be seen as not being broad but also can show that you have understanding from a perspective Ie if someone is depressed and I go ‘I have OCD etc. I understand the struggle of [various factors to do with mental health’ then yeah that may help but I don’t get it exactly Idk I’m kinda rambling here,

[@aphyTTR]

Thankfully, since No Pressure, it's so clear that Bobby has been so focused on a fantastic, more proper version of his music, and I hope College Park will complete the redemption, as No Pressure, twitchtape, Planetory Destruction, the YS Collection was a blessing, BT3, Vinyl Days and Peanuts have all been great. Rattpack forever man

[@KingBenny]

No pressure was one of my fav albums in 2020 ngl

[@aphyTTR]

@@KingBenny favourite album of all time for myself

[@onemicyeehaw1583]

Bt3 was honestly pretty mid imo and probably the worst of the bt series, the rest have been great. Planetory destruction is one of those tapes u can put on and just listen and vibe to it's prob one of my favorites from that year

[@aphyTTR]

@@onemicyeehaw1583 PD is honestly crazy, if samples got cleared for that i dont think i'd turn it off bt3 being a bit worse than the others is understandable but pretty much every song from the tape aside from inside and my way get loads of play from me and it's still really enjoyable

[@onemicyeehaw1583]

@@aphyTTR to be fair, I can't really remember a single song off off bt3 but maybe I'll try and get another listen and see if I was missing something soon (actually I remember God might judge that's an A tier logic song)

[@leeraxd]

The problem with 1-800 is that it did two things: It exposed him to a new type of audience, the type of audience that listens to Sam Smith, Taylor Swift, Halsey, etc. In other words, POP audience, and it then lost his credibility with his rap audience. I think what Logic expected was more of a Juice Wrld, X, Lil Peep type of audience, where it would be hip hop fans but just more emotional, but what he got was straight up an influx of Pop fans. So why does that create an issue? Because his main audience was underground hip hop fans, and the song and “Everybody” as an album as a whole, was geared towards those very fans. He created a conundrum with himself by catering to a whole new type of fan, while trying to maintain his old fans. But he was already too niche of an artist to do something like that. It’s like if Lupe Fiasco suddenly did Pop songs. It works for an artist like Kanye, Drake, 21, etc because their image is more based around fame/clout in general. It’s like Kendrick doing the feature on the Taylor Swift song “Bad Blood”. Luckily that version was way more low key and Kendrick’s backlash was quickly swept under the rug. It’s not that Taylor is a bad artist obviously, but Kendrick doing pop, radio mainstream pop, nonetheless, was a “sell out” for his true fans. Notice that since then, he’s never done a feature like that again. In comparison, 1-800 was a great song and had positive reactions, but it was not the fit for Logics true fans. It made Logic fans think that was going to be his new direction, so we sorta slowly dipped out. I have been a fan since Under Pressure. And it’s still one of my favorite albums to this day. But his exposure with 1-800 was not just a “Bad Blood” moment. He was performing the song everywhere, it was on the radio all the time, so it felt like a ‘new direction’. And then new fans didn’t get anymore of that 1-800 content to follow up on, as he tried to go right back to his old audience. He either needed to stick to that sound or he shouldn’t have milked it. In other words, he lost both his fan base because of it. I don’t believe him not being able to relate to suicide or whatever is what was his downfall… I don’t even think most people knew that. His whole album Everybody talks about anxiety and personal conflicts. So it’s clear that he can relate to the track, just not to a degree of literally killing himself. Lots of people can have suicidal thoughts without actually thinking they’d do that. So I dismiss the whole part about him making the song for clout. I just think he lost both fanbases due to inconsistency. At the end of the day, I’ll always view Logic as the guy who got famous from FaZe clan lmao, and rose up to fame with real talent on his own. He was different in an era where mumble rap was rising and lots of artists sounded the same. He was different and he was cool. And I’m sure he’s living life just fine with his wifey and kid. But I do hate how he just started to turn into a meme and was dropped after a while.

[@KingBenny]

W essay

[@shafer2s646]

Bro wrote a 6 paragraph essay for a youtube comment

[@leeraxd]

@@shafer2s646 Bruh it took me maybe 5 mins to type this out, aint that difficult lol. How long you think it takes to make an 8 min edited video tho? xd

[@hitlersmissingtesticle69]

When they soccer moms pull up in a van while I ride, they like “oh my god children it’s the 1-800 guy” I think logic got tired of being the 1-800 guy..

[@napoopy]

what the fuck does this mean

[@hitlersmissingtesticle69]

@@napoopy you must not be a big logic fan. Look up Keanu Reeves-logic

[@kanyeeast89]

@@hitlersmissingtesticle69 one of his worst songs 💀

[@hitlersmissingtesticle69]

@@kanyeeast89 Keanu reeves?

[@bensonbone]

Imagine being in a dark forest and you hear in the shallow distance “who can relate WOO”

[@deadboltzz5199]

Woo there?

[@bensonbone]

@@deadboltzz5199 hi don’t wanna be alive!

[@deadboltzz5199]

@@bensonbone Woo can relate? Woo!!

[@drakewalkermusic]

Even if you didn’t like 1-800 whatever, it’s not for you. That doesn’t change the fact that this song has SAVED THE LIVES of so many people and spread a message of hope. Peace love and positivity has been what Logic has preached from the very start. Also, just because you don’t like this ONE SONG Logic released, shouldn’t take away from the entire rest of his discography. Love you Bobby 301 RattPack4eva

[@PandaLegacy]

It doesn’t take away from his other music. The issue is that he tried to cater towards the audience of that song which stopped him from making the type of music he used to

[@KingBenny]

Did you just sign off a comment like it was a letter?

[@Melonese]

my man just proceeded to dick ride and peace out lmao

[@drakewalkermusic]

@@Melonese call it dick riding if you want, I just feel like there’s no reason to dawg on Logic Like that when he’s done nothing but promote peace love and positivity all throughout his career. Not to mention everything else he’s done for lyrical hip hop.

[@avacadomangobanana2588]

@@KingBenny how else are you supposed to finish them??

[@connorsexsmith6414]

I don't personally mind the 1-800 song (even though it may be a little tone deaf). What I do mind, however, are the tracks that Logic released later on that bragged about how that song made him so much money. For example: "1-800 then I killed the pussy, who can relate?". Just a spit in the face to anyone who was actually positively impacted by Logic.

[@mikef55]

I didn't know he did that, that's crazy!

[@legolokicars5820]

Most of his references to his income appeared to me as sarcasm, especially in his more recent albums. There are quite a few songs where he says basically yah i have money but that is not what matters most, as well as some songs where he was like “YeAh MaN iM rEaLlY rIcH” kinda just making fun of himself in a way.

[@cookiecrumbs6370]

yeah i forgot exactly where it was but there was a song and he was basically mocking people saying, "oh my god, you're that 1-800 guy" his message sticks out in a lot of songs about gang violence, racism, etc... i think he was just tired of being known for that one song

[@legolokicars5820]

@@cookiecrumbs6370 yeah i think that was perfect where he said that

[@Zxlxya]

2010-15 Logic was built different

[@KingBenny]

Yes he was

[@niQmusiQ]

Idk man I’m a huge Logic fan and some people don’t understand that he has dealt with a lot of shit. The thing that makes 1-800 “the falling of Logic” are the haters that said he went mainstream or how he “gave up on hip-hop”. When he retired he actually talked about how the rap scene pressured him into retirement and it’s mostly because all of the controversy after 1-800. Thankfully he came back and he just doesn’t give a fuck what others think. He also dropped a fire album this year too🔥

[@drakewalkermusic]

Well fucking said 301 Rattpack4eva

[@SirRagerIV]

I have to agree 100% even as a big Logic fan, he will now forever be known as the "1800 guy". In my opinion, I don't he will be able to make a comeback from it.

[@KingBenny]

If he made the greatest rap song ever then prolly

[@reallyonfire]

Can't believe they made it so we have to use Logic in our everyday lives. Bro is the goat fr, hella inspiring

[@KingBenny]

On rhe contrary i think a lot of ppl as missing Logic in their lives

[@Aventucats]

I remember in middle school my depression has started to come to light to my family. My mom never had time for me or my mental health, but one day my mom came up to me with this song. I was so mad at her lolol

[@KonexMatrix]

Logic has definitely made songs talking about depression and suicide (not as much suicide, though) but not to the level of 1800. Some I know off the top of my head 1. Growing Pains II 2. Growing Pains III 3. As I Am 4. Dear God

[@KingBenny]

Yknow what I forgot to mention that bc I think growing pains is much better

[@LoveTJones]

@@KingBenny under pressure in my opinion was his best album, he had more popular singles

[@themoviecritic1092]

I get the argument and agree to an extent but I do feel that the release of Vinyl Days let us know what Logic really wants to do now that he's not tied to DefJam. Also I think that a lot of ppl outside of Rattpack really enjoyed VD as well which really did suprise me ngl. I, for one am anticipating the next album.

[@KingBenny]

Yeah but I mean ruined logic in terms that ppl do not take Logic srsly... cause Vinyl days was one of his better albums and no one cared

[@themoviecritic1092]

@@KingBenny I wouldn't say no one cared. Like I've stated, when VD first dropped there were ppl all over Twitter and Instagram to an extent we're talking about how the album was either decent or pretty good, it didn't get that much press outside of social media interactions though

[@aphyTTR]

@@KingBenny I disagree, people everywhere have been saying it's up there with hip-hop albums of this year, which is a great achievement considering the "lol logic corny ahh clown" stigma he gets everywhere.

[@KingBenny]

@@aphyTTR i legit haven't seen anyone talk ab Vinyl days being an album of the year but even if logic was respected I don't think its a top 5 album this yr so whoever is putting it up there is just wrong anyways

[@aphyTTR]

@@KingBenny dont think its an outrageous pick, solid solid project

[@jkhongela]

I love it when artists can market themselves if you can leave the “underground” while still making quality music you have my respect. Logic failed on the second requirement.

[@jkhongela]

Like Lupe with Superstar/Show goes on

[@KingBenny]

Logic is not lupa

[@KingBenny]

Lol... idek you were gonna talk ab lupe I just saw the original

[@fredflinstoner9530]

Still don't get why people hate the guy

[@producekyro]

and i’m still gonna bump his music

[@rebellion6423]

Honestly i like the idea behind it, but the execution is flawed, if he poured his feelings into it, it would mean a lot more. This songs feels like a instagram page made it in anti suicide september, you know.

[@KingBenny]

Hard to pour feelings into something you can't relate to

[@nevaehshaak3012]

if anything, 1-800 made Logic famous bru 😭😭

[@KingBenny]

my point was that the fame affected his music dawg

[@gliiitched]

the COADM title track was genuinely a good song though, it definitely takes more from his true artistic vision than his pop transition

[@unpopular2]

It’s So Funny Because Rappers Rap About Shit They Don’t Go Through/Haven’t Went Through

[@JonahH513]

I’m a die hard logic fan, have loved all of his projects from worst to best- but I agree. I think that it did ruin his game, but that’s also why I think he’s gonna be better then ever in the future. After all the fame, I feel like it came back with no pressure being more of a passion project for him then anything else. After retirement I think his projects felt more… logic. Bobby Tarantino 3 is criminally underrated with one bad song and multiple bangers on repeat, that just feels like he made it for fun with the boys, that kind of vibe. It feels authentic imo. and vinyl days really feels like logic going back to the mixtape vibe with the boom bap beats and shit, while also having smaller, underground rappers on this project. Now I’m definitely bias, I loved all of logics catalog, even confessions of a dangerous mind (coadm). I can still recognize that albums such as COADM aren’t very good, weather I like them or not. But I feel like logic is back, and this new, post-retirement logic will kill it on his next project. Can’t wait for collage park :)

[@JohnWilliams-xe4zi]

I loved this song man… got me through a really rough time. Struggling with addiction, trouble with the law, relationship ending then getting sober, and listening to this song really helped me. I can remember driving to AA meetings listening to this song, thinking “I can make it through this, life can get better.” And it has. I’ve been sober for a long time, married to the love of my life and have a son who is my world! Hang in there if you’re going through it! There’s always hope. Every morning is a new beginning and a chance to be the person you want to be! Don’t ever give up on yourself!

[@zachnotzack4]

I definitely think Logic never hit the ceiling I pictured him hitting when I first started listening to him in 2012, and I never liked that this was the song that boosted him to fame and that’s probably what ignited the slump that he went thru, even tho I liked the Bobby Tarantino series, NP and Vinyl Days.

[@s1nner_]

Ever since I heard this song, I've found a new purpose in life, to turn this song off whenever someone's playing it. Thanks Logic 🙏

[@luccafoster-soltis6742]

id have to disagree with you basically saying 1800 didn’t build him a bigger fan base, yes the mainstream knew him for this song but he’s had multiple songs blow up after this and go radio mainstream plus a lot of people found his other music through 1800 if you just look at his concerts post 2017 they’ve been way bigger than anything before then

[@KingBenny]

I mean I don't think it was direct downfall but the long term effect is here

[@luccafoster-soltis6742]

@@KingBenny mostly because he isn’t catering to popular genres anymore i think if the dude wanted to be could have another radio hit

[@KingBenny]

@@luccafoster-soltis6742 nah but like thats what I'm saying... ppl don't take logic srsly even as a rapper as a result of songs like 1800

[@luccafoster-soltis6742]

@@KingBenny maybe he’s not getting the same commercial success but as far as respect, I’d say with projects like no pressure and vinyl days he’s a lot more respected now that he was in 2018

[@KingBenny]

@@luccafoster-soltis6742 yeah but hes not as respected as he once was... i havent heard many ppl even talk about vinyl days and no pressure was a good project that also got little to no attention

[@Big_Human]

Been calling 988 a lot lately I bump his mixtapes to soothe tho They came out during a simpler time in my life. I wish folks a successful recovery

[@dilz5041]

Content coming in 🔥🔥🔥 thank you for ya time

[@KingBenny]

For sure no problem.... we making it big soon

[@dilz5041]

@@KingBenny thoughts on oldhead rap I'm 31 so I have no idea whats poppin with the today scene...would you consider a longerform video that explains the where today's sounds comes from?

[@KingBenny]

@@dilz5041 i got into hiphop listening to the Ice Cube's and such as well as being a fan of the older style so prolly not the best representation but I think they're dope especially Jay, Nas, and New York rappers in general... Today's sound really comes from too many areas to track down... hiphop is truly more diverse than ever tho so that'd be a tough video just cause every rapper has his own thing going on if that makes sense

[@dilz5041]

@@KingBenny facts! Looking forward to the next episode

[@KingBenny]

@@dilz5041 It will come sooner than later.. thanks for showing love

[@dbonechis]

Honestly the biggest one-line showing of disconnect since "Let them eat cake"

[@KingBenny]

Chilll... its not THAT bad

[@AriesOcean]

I somehow remember it very differently it might be the Mandela effect tho. I remembered Everybody being really popular and by the time the song with the suicide hotline music video went out, a bunch more people started loving logic.

[@its7teen205]

Logic hated for no reason

[@Theweirdkidddd]

Stg

[@addie2131]

Under pressure is one of my favorite albums. Logic keep goin

[@jamesphilips7777]

Once logic blew up with 1-800, i think he started tryna to get as much money he could. Now he’s just doing what he loves and having fun. He gunna start doing trap music again (judging on some snippets of unreleased music he’s released).

[@Twofirmfeet1024]

WHO CAN RELATE?

[@KingBenny]

Woo

[@seanmuller4955]

Good analysis, but I do think using one Genius clip to go and say that "Logic doesn't know depression well enough" to make a song like 1-800 is a bit of a stretch, because he definitely does. I suggest reading his memoir "This Bright Future", he goes into a lot more detail about his upbringing and the traumas he went through. It was my favorite read of last year.

[@stephentyger3165]

what’s the outro song?

[@KingBenny]

J Dilla - Life

[@Repoise]

Logic wrote this song from a genuine place and it just so happened to give him a huge pop. Just because he didn't have a plan on how he was going to take his own life, doesn't mean he can't know what it feels like to not want to go on anymore. I've been a Logic fan since ILLCAMS 38 and seeing him hit mainstream was super hype, even though people decided to dogpile him for being "corny" and "disingenuous". Mental health awareness is quite on brand for Logic so hearing 1-800 made sense to me. Yeah, it ain't that boom bap shit or that throw back shit but Suicide Hotline brought in so many more fans who decided that Bobby's personality and talent WAS worth supporting. Man got everything he wanted and needed and you want to say he's "ruined"? C'mon bruh, tune in a bit.

[@KingBenny]

Thats cool and all... but the song still ruined him in the long term

[@Repoise]

@@KingBenny Leave it to the clout chaser to not know what real success is.

[@KingBenny]

@@Repoise aye bro... you do you... if you like the "1-800 kill that pussy, who can relate?" guy then shoutout to you

[@manfred2375]

He should go back to back to back to back to back to back to his 2014 rapping Style.

[@Open.Close.]

Under pressure is by far the best Logic album.

[@HBKTrel]

Great video, but I just want to say the your transitions and the songs choices you used in this video is top tier! Thanks bro

[@kaiwilliams8886]

The vagueness is about depression, not to cater to someone. Depression is a condition that can only be explained as feeling vague, like you can't place it, can't figure out exactly what is wrong.

[@sadboijokes]

Vagueness and depression don’t necessarily go hand in hand. There are a lot of songs that talk about depression and make it relatable by talking about SPECIFIC details. And while you may not relate to the detail, you relate to the feeling. Logic has a song called Buried Alive where he questions if his fame is actually worth anything in the end and how he still feels worthless. I am not famous, but the feeling of “is anything I do actually worth it?” Is a pretty universal thing. And it wasn’t vague, it wasn’t trying to appeal to everybody, it was a dude talking about his feelings in an honest and authentic way. Depression is far from vague. It has differences with many people. But there are plenty of similarities.

[@82adot97]

at this point logic needs to collab with other artists and just make a boom bap type song. :/

[@Gameplays1able]

he should collab with travis

[@Happy-qx5tx]

His last album is literally boom bap rap

[@igetnobitchs]

Gang related and the whole under pressure album is actual pressure though ♥️

[@Justencrypted]

What’s ironic is this is his most popular song. Man LOGIC my favorite I couldn’t really even like take his “fall off” well considering his old shit is FUCKING good

[@sadboijokes]

What’s funny is I remember not liking the 1-800 song when it was released as a single. But I was a huge Logic fan at the time so I just pushed it aside as a song I simply didn’t care for. Because Logic had touched on heavy subjects before that song and it sounded genuine and heart wrenching (Dear God, Buried Alive and others come to mind). 1-800 sounded like a heartless product but again, I was like whatever. Then Everybody dropped and I listened to it. And i thought it was okay but then the 1-800 song came on and I skipped it. And I may have had my Spotify on Shuffle, but I remember the next song that came on was Ink Blot with Juicy J where Juicy J says “k*ll yo self” and even having that on your album while trying to promote “Peace, Love, Positivity” and anti-su*cide just rubbed me the wrong way. The song feels disingenuous and if the song helped you, that’s great and I’m glad you’re still with us. But the song is trash.

[@casmithh]

anyone know the video with Kanye dancing in that blue suit with the fedora? Trying to find it, kinda goes hard

[@KingBenny]

it's an alternate video for Heard 'Em Say thats out there

[@casmithh]

@@KingBenny ty!

[@senshy290]

"RUINED" is kinda harsh brother he still is a legend and someone who brought many many normies to rap music through his cringey ass quirky ass songs but he still was a HUGE impact to the rap scene so "RUINED" is kinda wrong but i also wouldn't know what else to call it

[@aboutnoise2335]

Logic is the luckiest fan ever... he had no business picking up a mic

[@Raptorking18]

Lmao, everyone here bullying Logic out of a career and they completely forget about the living walking L named RUSS😂😂

[@DukesMusic84]

Once you lose the respect of these listeners, you've lost it for good. Tough crowd. Vinyl Days was actually Logic's best album since under pressure, but it fell on deaf ears.

[@KingBenny]

Idk I think no pressure was prolly his best album since under pressure

[@themoviecritic1092]

Nah Twitter talked a lot about Vinyl Days when it first released and most of the things said were positive

[@DukesMusic84]

@@themoviecritic1092 And deservedly so, its dope. If the label couldn't get behind it, their loss.

[@RyeRyeShnatBat]

People always talking about how he didn’t actually have thoughts of suicide. Y’all want him to go through that shit?

[@KingBenny]

No its not that its just that the song isn't as good as it would've been if he knew what he was talking ab... like if he had more direction

[@denzolli4381]

Idk it'd kinda like Drake making a song about the emotional journey of being pregnant. I mean sure you could try buuut you just aren't gonna come off genuine.

[@Marco-dw4gt]

That j cole verse at the end of that one album was actually sick

[@evanbrong]

This video doesn’t make since, just because Logic hasn’t thought about killing himself doesn’t mean he can’t make a song to help others

[@KingBenny]

Nah thats not what I said... he can make the song... but the song is prolly gonna miss the mark in the same way anyone talking ab things they don't know ab is gonna miss the mark... but mainly the song sucks just cause the lyrics are dumb lol

[@DonLM98]

The real issue is how he followed up the release, Logic tried to appease everybody with his tapes and boombap mixtapes instead of following up what was then defining the closest thing that we could say it was his own style, while everybody seems blend and forced it isn’t outright terrible, but people can see through catering and both his old and new audience could see through him, everything after seems rushed, forced and even uninspired, seems he constantly lacked any artistic vision for his catalogue

[@MysterAitch]

Relatable feels on the subject of suicide...but King ISO's track Hypocrite resonates with me like a bitch.

[@KingBenny]

Idk who that is ngl

[@MysterAitch]

@@KingBenny I discovered him thru tech9... In the Kathartic series. Peep it

[@donovanmuse5715]

I think the 1-800 joint kept people from committing suicide cuz it’s makes killing yourself seem corny asll

[@ccmxdia]

bro said 'when LoYic broke into the rap scene'

[@KingBenny]

Nah... the dickriding insane rn

[@ccmxdia]

@@KingBenny chill bruh 💀💀, I enjoyed the video and the keem one too, then subbed. homie gotta chill 💀

[@KingBenny]

@@ccmxdia haha lol... its all good. I just like to joke ab it cause it allows me to not take comments too srsly

[@ccmxdia]

@@KingBenny fair 💀

[@youngkennypreach8558]

I think South Park displayed it perfectly

[@youngkennypreach8558]

@@Scarab2187 it came out after, it was a mix of making fun of safe spaces and cartmans obsession with getting popular with the new trend which in the case was suicide

[@DirectVue]

Life as a musician - save literally hundreds of lives (at lesst) and still get clowned for it. I need to get my algorithm on some more positive stuff. Where the dune reviews at??

[@jesusmejia3646]

In the words of joe budden “Logic is the worst rapper to ever touch a microphone” 😂😂

[@f.c.2475]

You guys know he's Biracial ??

[@bridgerlee7478]

Bro made 30mill. after the Everybody album dawg, he enjoying life now. He don't care bout the numbers/fame, he make music for the fans.

[@theocanonoy8691]

I just want to take the moment to appreciate how the song that "Ruined" Logic, is also his most streamed song in spotify. I feel like thats saying something.

[@danielcortesgarrido8854]

Saying that Logic is one of the worst rappers is bullshit dawg

[@ryanarmes8492]

Everything in this video is subjective and up to opinion, just like with everything. I will agree that “old” under pressure YS logic is what I fell in love with, I still like Logic today and I enjoy seeing how he’s grown through his sound. Just like any rapper, their style changes, and that’s what makes hip hop great and something that never gets old.

[@danbruk5986]

OOPS NEVERMIND. Seems like you gotta remake the whole review. you can't say his name right and you just don't understand Logic. Your whole review is you going "well like Logic did this really well, but I just don't understand it/ I can't take it seriously/ I feel like this doesn't make sense." It really shows how much you understand about the rap or hiphop community when you say a positive thing and then go... uh but like just no. I agree with you saying Kid Cudi or Kanye could have made this song but you just don't elaborate. I think the song was really deep and blew up because it resinated with so many of the rap and hip-hop community. I love the sound and the flow and making of "who can relate" is just the dumbest thing I've heard. Seems like some guy in his 20's understands nothing about a pop song and then makes a whole review backtracking the statement about the amazing parts of the song. 2/10 review

[@KingBenny]

deadass tho.... not that deep. It's a funny song. if it helped you then good shit, it aint help me so I'm not gonna dickride.

[@thegamingpesant2880]

If y’all wanna fantastic song about suicide that came out the same year check out I’m Sorry by Joyner Lucas I’m pretty sure that’s who Logic got the idea for this song from and Joyner’s take on the subject is infinitely better despite him also somehow never being depressed

[@bridgerlee7478]

Bruh Logic has killed it in the rap game, man writes all his songs.

[@KingBenny]

... most rappers do tho

[@hadookin47]

I'm glad he's retired from the mainstream and making good tapes again, Vinyl Days and College Park go hard with great production and features

[@blakesteenrod4765]

Lil Durk had a fire remix to 1-800

[@KingBenny]

I can't tell if this is a joke or not ngl

[@wildsword6856]

The hate that he got in the world of hip hop was just completely stupid all because of one song and and it looks like all hate that everyone in the hip hop world give him is now coming back to bite them in the butt just look at the recent songs in 2022 from other artists but all of you already know what I'm talking about take a guess why I said that

[@kanyeeast89]

It’s def not just one song… there’s plenty of logic songs that are either corny or just straight up shit 💀

[@soleil3033]

I loved logic before and during 1-800 but I remember hearing this song and being like who tf is this?? This song is shit and then I found out it was logic. I was like NO WAY he would make a song like this

[@KingBenny]

shit.... at first I thought 1 800 was good cause it was "deep"

[@soleil3033]

@@KingBenny to be fair all I heard was “I just wanna dieeeeee” and I was like 10 💀

[@farelmahiza6890]

Doing pop tracks is his worst mistake imo, dude shoulda go full experimental like billy woods or Lil ugly mane

[@dayswillburn777]

Damn that beat at 4:58 I forget where it's from 😭 great vid btw

[@dayswillburn777]

Nvm I remembered lol

[@KingBenny]

Thank you and yeah 44 Bars is a cold song

[@buunopoly]

homicide and 1-800 are complete opposites tbh

[@KingBenny]

Yknow... now that you mention it... you're not wrong

[@jaquaviontavis6026]

Damn man

[@almondussy]

logic is one of my favourite artists and bro his new music belongs in a house fire

[@Bedhead13]

Have you heard Vinyl Days or No Pressure?

[@illneumatik]

I apologize if I have incorrectly sentences.. Im a multi tasker im out here creating art developing new apps an making music lol.oh yah and commenting with miss spelled sentences I'm a busy man but still find time to comment

[@JayJayShawtyBae]

No one cares

[@aidenfrederic6409]

but the thing is people didn't understand the context of the album. he's writing through the perspective of other people. like there's a whole story to everybody. but he did lose much momentum

[@methrecovery6922]

That song made him it was his biggest song. It was the shit projects he released after that that destroyed his career.

[@KingBenny]

Yeah... but I think the shit projects were a result of this song's success

[@methrecovery6922]

@@KingBenny bro he's half black it's ok

[@familypedro8]

0:01 when logic broke in...

[@mikef55]

It's like Macklemore with 'Same Love'.. like okay but neither of them related to the message they were putting out, so what's the point?

[@nedkeith2669]

We are the world

[@Pro-Wrestling-Drirect]

plus the number is out of date now

[@bensonbone]

When he went on national stage and said “ I DONT WANNA BE ALLIVVEEEEE, I DONT WANNA BE ALIIIEEEEVVVVVEEE, I JUTS WANNA DIE TODAY” probably not the best song to perform 😅

[@flobbyrobbo2889]

Vinyl days is again going back to his roots, big fan of it, just him rapping and having fun. It isnt something i listen to loads, but neither is logic, ill listen to it every now and then and it's good

[@KingSquirtle999]

That song was pretty bad tbh

[@case8153]

you ain't lying bro.

[@octaviovalenzuela3650]

Really good video. Subbed.

[@KingBenny]

Thank you very much

[@EyaadRafeek]

Alright. Lets give my opinion! *Every Kendrick Diss Ever* BRO 1-800 SAVED LIVES LIKE BRO WTHHHH HES ABOUT PEACE AND EQUALITY

[@iTS._zay173]

im hoenstly lost when the song first came out i didnt know it was or would become a "meme" nor did i see any memes relating to the song so im not sure about that but the fact that you bashing such a well crafted and thoughtful song for its time is a lil crazy to me mainly because we had songs like "Jocylen Flores" where its about a girl taking her life and the eventual rise of emo rap like not even a year or 2 later but im just syaing your really underestimating it mainly because the main stream audience wasnt fkn with it but i dont think its his best song but i do think its a good song and he shouldnt hhave gotten hate from it nor should it have been taken as a joke

[@danbruk5986]

Wait but like, I don't think the review is correct. You can't say logic right. It just comes out as lo ig. Please fix the review and say logic right. Thank you.

[@KingBenny]

Uhhh sure

[@sazahmed4225]

I personally hate this song. My late cousin was the one that introduced me to mixtape/young sintra logic. And I was on board. Till this album dropped. Both me and my cousin were big fan of Logic, but at the time my cousin was going through some shit, cut off contact from everyone. I wished he heard the 1-800 before he ultimately killed himself. And I hate the fact that this is the song that propelled him to his popularity now.

[@KingBenny]

sorry to hear, hope youre doing okay.

[@namcox40]

Just gon say off the bat I think the label may have had a part with logic’s career after 1800 dropped, forced him to be a bit more woke/overly positive or just straight corny pop genre afterwards. He never was like that imo, now that he is independent it’s more back to the roots.

[@stuzzox]

logic saved so many lives with this song. I dont give a single rats ass what people think about it 🤨 He wanted to help people and thats exactly what happened

[@KingBenny]

I mean yeah he saved some lives... I still think it's bad

[@billy6464]

hey, I doubt it

[@stuzzox]

@@billy6464 aight ☠️

[@tyleranderson6533]

under pressure will forever be a top 25 hip hop album for me