Kingdom Hearts 2 - Story Explained

[@Juli0P12]

"After all...who could love a man?" is my absolute favorite line from this video series, Chase is an absolute genius for rolling with that Beast -> Man joke

[@Derglesnaf]

“Roxas has a consistently bad time” that’s a nice way of putting it.

[@zagged2474]

“Get fucked” might be the most iconic part of lore dump

[@madsschmidt5225]

Fuzzy to fu Izzy so i cost safe u eye Carter food I try x I u criticized codification guy ugly z studio tr C coconuts z a t as x

[@superflaffers]

48:07 timestamp for my own benefit as much as anyone else’s

[@JohnnyKaloaNichols]

2:03:30 Technically in Xehanort’s name, if you take the X out and rearrange the letters, it spells “No Heart”

[@Eques_Umbra]

Or "Another".

[@AGhastlyGengar]

​@@Eques_UmbraOr "A throne"

[@BrianHinckley-dn1nu]

It also spells peepee poopoo

[@CassiusStelar]

And if you rearrange Xemnas you get Mansex

[@KodasGarden]

My favorite scene with Demyx is when Sora first meets him and it's just Demyx: "Hmm let's see here." *checks book* "Roxas?" Sora: "Excuse me?" The way Sora says it is so funny to me because he sounds so confused and already fed up with Demyx 😂

[@Leonfei]

Fairly sure I posted something like this under the original video, but the whole thing about Kairi forgetting Sora's name gets lost in translation somewhat. In Japanese, Sora means sky, so rather than telling Kairi his name starts with S, I believe the "clue" is related to that instead. That's also why the letter she writes jogs Kairi's memory in the way it does. The letter says "one sky, one destiny". It's the word sky that reminds Kairi of Sora's name.

[@rngwrldngnr]

Missed opportunity for the translator to add in a metaphor about soaring. 😛

[@LoreDump]

*DISCLAIMER* Thanks for being here! This episode is a reupload, transferring our backlog of Lore Dumps from the Monty Zander youtube channel.

[@elyaequestus1409]

1:08 the 'oh fuck, ok, jesus christ, I am terrified' is permently recorded in my mind. Thank you. This line has come to use more than several times.

[@survivordave]

2:59:19 So re:Coded is "re:" because KH Coded was a Japan-only mobile game released in 8 episodes from late 2008-early 2010. re:Coded is the enhanced DS port.

[@lizabee484]

2:21:33 God I need Neil’s response to “you ok?” as a reaction gif. Because that is a solid MOOD for me a great deal of the time. Especially whenever I’ve had a particularly rough night, insomnia-wise. ^_^;

[@ablooha]

Idk if anyone's gonna read this, but my birthday is today and I presented my own Kingdom Hearts lecture today to my pals. I condensed all of the games into 365 PowerPoint slides, but only made it through the first 3 games. REGARDLESS, we're doing the rest in the coming weeks, and I have to thank this series for getting me through the script writing process ((:

[@jaymeshill9063]

Happy Birthday!!

[@transformersrobotsinyouras5585]

Happy birthday!

[@evecampbell3069]

Happy Birthday! 🎉 I hope you had fun finishing showing off the slides. 🤣

[@marqperigrine873]

Happy birthday!

[@SPIKEYROXAS]

Oathkeeper represents soras connection to kairi and light And oblivion represents riku and darkness You unlock these keyblades through standard progression again. Only on kh3 are they post game unlocks Also the way kairi gets to destiny islands is kinda briefly explained in bbs. And i guess the method which led to it is explained in MoM

[@NightWorldWorshipper]

I find it a bit funny how he keeps calling Struggle "Strife."

[@survivordave]

He must have ordered his Struggle equipment from Temu

[@nathangaspar4989]

1:54:49 The only one of the Ansem Reports in KH1 to be written by Ansem was the first one. The rest were written by Xehanort under Ansem’s name in an attempt to frame him.

[@jakebailey5834]

Chase you are talking about Kingdom hearts 3! You get Oathkeeper after finding and taking pics of all Hidden Mickeys and you get Oblivion by beating KH3 on Critical Mode.

[@StormCrownSr]

I know it's been 5 months, but I can actually correct something and maybe reveal something to you. Sora starts off (release wise) the series as a 14 year old. And with each numbered release, he ages 1 year. 15 in 2, 16 in 3.

[@olivernielsen2211]

Numora himself has gone on record multiple times now and stated that Sora is still 15 in KH3 KH2 and KH3 is at most a few months apart.

[@StormCrownSr]

@@olivernielsen2211 Could you link me something on that? Because most places I've seen, he's been reported as 16 in 3.

[@strawberrymango8655]

@@StormCrownSr Nomura has said that 2 and 3 take place during the same summer, though i can't find a direct source cause its from translations. Also the KH3 Ultimania book lists what age he was during different games and they list KH3 as being while he is 15.

[@patrickhayes8761]

Always Down to Duck with more Lore Dump

[@Senfree]

1:56:00 ish. Technically, the Nobody does call himself Ansem, because Xemnas is an anagram of Ansem with an X tossed in, so that's not quite true. Also, if you take the X out of Xehanort's name, you get NoHeart.

[@Kuronosa]

It is to my underatanding, that the original Coded was a Japan-only Phone Game, that was then re-worked into a DS title for Re:Coded.

[@jakebailey5834]

1:21:14 ''After all....who could love a Man?''

[@Senfree]

So, I realized why Hayner thinks Sora is familiar, even though Roxas knew data Hayner. The program DiZ made is from heart data, and hearts are connected, like how Namine changing Sora's heart memory changed everyone's memory of him. Because Roxas was friends with Hayner's heart data, Hayner's heart knew Roxas.

[@metroguevania]

Props to Neal and Monty for keeping up

[@elyaequestus1409]

The 'Get Fucked' line was absolutely and utterly delivered in such a sincere way. It is awesome.

[@Ultratistic]

At 1:55:09 chase says it was Ansem the wise that did the experiments and all the bad shit, but it was actually xehanort after he took ansem's name

[@spitefulwinter]

I havent played a kh game in like 3 years but I remember trama from going against the dancer nobodies and some of the tron heartless in critical mode

[@SD_Koy]

Monty is very much not alone there lmao, Roxas is beloved.

[@NymphieJP]

Hearing struggle being called strife was hard lol

[@Xehanort10]

48:26 Roxas and Riku are both better developed characters than Sora. They also react naturally and realistically to situations and have feelings beyond constant happiness.

[@ralfsstuff]

My re:Coded cartridge just died a while ago and a small part of me died with it. It had its problems, but goddamn I loved that game

[@Sumguyinavan_]

Not as much changes with KH2 knowing the identity of a certain individual. I thought there would be scenes where we didn't know why he was doing a thing, but would make more sense with hindsight, but surprisingly not. So its hard to know how much they actually know about their own past, or if it was just so far not figured out yet by the writer that no breadcrumbs were left.

[@laneedon1998]

When I was a young child this was the reason i was unable to beat this game. He’s 10x harder than he was previously 1:59:44

[@Keaton_Ambrose]

Coded originally came out on Japanese flip phones, not DS, that's why the DS version is re:

[@ralfsstuff]

Weird Chase didn't know that. Pretty sure he also believed the remix subtitle belongs to the PS3 remakes instead of the japanese only PS2 "definitive editions". I also vaguely remember him not knowing that Re:Chain of Memories was a PS2 remake already. Because he, like many others, complained about CoM getting a playable HD version while 358/2 didn't. Much easier to port an old, already PS2, game. If it was just the GBA title it wouldn't have been playable in 1.5.

[@Xehanort10]

1:24:28 The Heartless of Winnie the Pooh would just be the Blood and Honey version.

[@Yelsnia7]

This is my favorite kingdom hearts game thank you lore men 🙌 ill always hold you in MY kingdom’s heart 😿😼🫶

[@novuspatriarch]

Three other randos on Destiny Islands are all Final Fantasy characters. Bugged me so I had to say it.

[@hada__02]

Can’t believe that Chase left out the lore tidbit that Pence eats dog food

[@ozwell1088]

I actually do want Lore Dump: Danganronpa.

[@lazypaladin]

_Kingdom Hearts II: _*_Goofy F'kn Dies_*

[@jonathanarp3040]

Coded was originally released in segments as a mobile game, but only for T Mobile customers. It was like a Blackberry, flip phone situation

[@ThatKid7718]

Coded came out on mobile phones before touch screens and iPhone were common

[@TehAdmireOG]

Xehanort without the X ='s No Heart Also, Eraqus ='s Square (:

[@Sumguyinavan_]

It is also" Another"

[@TehAdmireOG]

@@Sumguyinavan_ never noticed that one!

[@squirrelwithabanana]

I love how at 1:48:45 Chase just refers to Tifa as “a black-haired girl” (been meaning to make a corrections thread for this for a while, feel free to add)

[@squirrelwithabanana]

2:55:00 note, the actual apprentices were xemnas (xehanort), xigbar (braig), xaldin (dilan), lexaeus (aeleus), vexen (even), and zexion (ienzo) as mentioned a few minutes earlier. Axel and Saix did not participate in the experiments nor should we know that they were ever apprentices of Ansem the Wise because they only joined shortly before everyone became nobodies

[@squirrelwithabanana]

2:57:00 I do believe melody of memory was out by the original release of this video, that is where kairi’s world traversal is explained

[@squirrelwithabanana]

2:59:00 Coded originally came out on Japanese flip phones (also while I have not played it myself I’ve heard great things about the actual gameplay of re:coded)

[@fredranzalot4849]

Wait, this just occurred to me! Is Winnie the Pooh technically a data world?

[@Eques_Umbra]

Had the same thought as well.

[@lunarboundwhale]

Part of me, if the lads ever get a PO box, wants to knit some DOGSTREET gear 🤣

[@nox6687]

"Ansem is Ansem is Ansem." Oh, if only

[@StormCrownSr]

1:59:02 this was one of the hardest roadblocks during my first playthrough as a kid. Some context. I already had KH1, but I got stuck on Clayton and just couldn't be bothered. So this was the first KH game I beat. I didn't know about "abilities" the game I believe only tells you about them after beating giant nobody as Roxas and young me was too busy celebrating to take that in. Cut to me S T R U G G L I N G with this boss. He was such bullshit. Oh I hated him. He made Clayton appear to be the nothing he really is. It was like 10 hours, over many days, into my struggle I somehow doscover the abilities menu. And I remember being confused as to what they were, but oh well, let's just equip everything. I beat Demyx on my 2nd try. Goofy's special spin was my saviour. You will never understand my appreciation for that move. On another thought if you feel lvl 1 playthroughs are too easy. Play the game as normal and just never equip any abilities. I accidentally discovered the hardest mode as a kid.

[@amusingmoose9924]

1:24:14 the answer is Xin Jinping

[@mikeharris6429]

10/10 response

[@Senfree]

Being in the realm of darkness would put you out of balance, that's why the negativity happens, to have balance, you need both light and darkness, to answer the DiZ question.

[@calemr]

Well, I got a fuck you from Monty today. I think KH isn't that confusing IF it were explained in ACTUAL chronological order by someone who just doesn't truck with any of the twists or lies. Just straight up "So this is Xehanort's heartless. He says he's Ansem, he's not.", which wouldn't come up for fuckin' ages because KH1 is like the 7th game or something by now. But yeah, getting it in game release order, it's a mess.

[@jaymeshill9063]

Sora killed Nobody.

[@creecher1118]

I really hope Monty covers these games on his main.

[@robyhughes91]

I don't know if it was mentioned in a different comment on the original video, but Coded originally came out on mobile devices in Japan. It was then re:released in America on the DS. And it was one of the WORST games in the series. Chase was right that pretty much the only important stuff happens at the end.

[@ukyoize]

I heard that gameplay wise recoded was neat

[@robyhughes91]

@@ukyoize it's all over the place. One minute you're platforming your way through Traverse Town, then youre running towards the right side of the screen platforming like Megaman fighting the Heartless boss in the same style. Every world had a different gameplay style pretty much. The only one I enjoyed was Hollow Bastion where after playing the game solo, you get Donald and Goofy back. Add in that the command deck and leveling up system is the worst, to me, makes the game feel VERY much a mess. And yes it was a mobile game before getting "remade" or re-released onto the DS, but it really needed more time in the cooker before being put onto the DS.

[@piefish1000]

As someone who originally also missed the Lion King world on their first playthrough it is totally optional lol

[@scotthood8372]

You get oathkeeper in twilight town and oblivion in the world that never was.

[@crowsandcryptids]

i played like 12h of this game in a weekend a few weeks back and for some reason my memory of the Ned of the beginning roxas segment just isn't there, I have no idea if I was cooking or getting my washing out when I did it I just straight up cant remember parts of it

[@numberhunter62]

With removing the "X" from Xehanort you actually get Noheart, or No Heart.

[@Merlin_From_Shrek_3]

Which castle do you want maleficent? Yes.

[@jakebailey5834]

1:19:53 Man's Castle

[@mischiefcal]

37:50 i would be so for this just for their reactions about the one they call the ultimate despair, hiding somewhere in this school

[@scotthood8372]

I like listening to these alot, I'm learning alot I never really knew, but man I wish there's been about 10% more research before the dump. For example. Coded was a phone game. Recoded is a cutscene collective.

[@ShadowReaver573]

Coded was a phone game, Re:Coded is a DS remake, Recoded on the collections is a movie collection.

[@opinionpaladin6007]

Wait. Are yall not doing Re:Coded?

[@LoreDump]

Hey! It's on the KH2 video, it's tagged on at the end- Neil

[@opinionpaladin6007]

@Lore Dump thanks for the info. I'm only on the beginning of the KH2 video at the moment. Glad to know our second little data boy didn't get left out.

[@DDTRAINER]

No wonder this was so confusing when I was 9!

[@arod1176]

Is Neil Smoughtown or am I an idiot? Also 🔥🔥🔥 video

[@MontyZander]

We’ve had questions like this before about Chase! The answer is no I’m afraid. Neil isn’t Smoughtown and Chase isn’t Flaming Shark - appreciate the comment!

[@LoreDump]

I'm ashamed to say that I'd never watched this creator and having now done so, I can totally see why you might think that- Neil

[@whym6438]

"Roxas" is an anagram for "Sora X", and the Nobodies all have x's in their names. Using this, I figured out that Roxas was Sora's Nobody as soon as he was introduced, despite never having played this game. 1. Before you ask, yes, I do want a cookie for being very smart and figuring that out. 2. I wonder who Lae/Eal/Ael is/was?

[@uberfapwashere]

Smart enough to figure that out but still missed the obvious anagram (which is the right one)

[@Sluggii]

i'm gonna guess the guy doing the explaining doesn't know final mix existed on ps2 in japan

[@katykohley201]

I remember the fuck cart one my brother said his first cuss word at that obe

[@Zapphoman]

Yeah Roxas story is Soma levels of effed up

[@johnschicitano9920]

Xehanort. Take the “X” out. You get “No heart”

[@MicahLowther]

Recodeds story is pretty mid, worst in the franchise. But it's gameplay is the best out of any of the handheld titles before DDD

[@nathanvarade5820]

So should say this now. Even though I’m very late to the party. THE Key blade. Is the one that Sora has. The silver and gold one. It’s it’s own special object. Key blade wielders got the ability to make their own key blades from the one Sora has. So Sora’s chosen one status doesn’t come from having a key blade it’s because he was chosen by that one. It’s why all the other keyblade wielders all have different looking ones.

[@foolishlyfoolishfolly3209]

Roxas game 1!!!! Algorithm boosting comment