Kingdom hearts: Sora has to be the master of masters

Song: master of masters theme #kingdomhearts20thanniversary #kingdomhearts3 #kingdomhearts #sqaureenix #kh4 #disney #sora #keyblade

[@Final_RPG]

PLEASE READ!!!Couple of thing’s to add to this is actually what I wanted to say in the video I didn’t know how to convey it though entirely but sora when he rewrote all the timelines in the realties stated by Nomura he wins in every outcome and I believe that the master of masters is the one time line that failed and had everything go wrong for him and he’s trying to stop his own paradox from occurring in the first place. ANOTHER NOTE xehanort also would be surprised when hearing this name don’t forget y’all sora is a piece on the chess board in dark road in both games they play so he also could have heard his name from this set piece as well just something that has been floored and hidden possibly. But all In all its just a good old fun theory nonetheless so I hope you all enjoyed and stick around for my crazy videos. EDIT THIS IS DEDICATED TO MY PERVIOUS VIDEO ON THE MASTER OF MASTERS IM GLAD IT DID SO WELL THANK YOU ALL I’M SO HAPPY YOU ALL LOVED IT! EDIT EDIT: someone has told me and kinda had known I have a few times of dead air where I’m not speaking and I should have added something to let you guys hear but I couldn’t just take ray chase’s voice from damos video cause that would be stealing so I apologize on my behalf for those parts on the video hopefully it can be forgiven

[@TheMasterofMasters1]

"May your hearts be your guiding key."

[@8-bitskull]

i would agree with the idea, but i believe Young Xehanorts V.A confirmed he knows the M.O.M's identity, and did confirm its not a name we've heard of

[@Final_RPG]

⁠@@8-bitskull it was never confirmed by any va or if it was a name we heard of its been silent since 2013 unfortunately

[@user-lm5ez7jx9h]

I personally think Cloud strife is the master of masters, the voice is similar and the clothing was speaking volumes of cloud being abused. Second thing, he is trying to overcome the darkness in his heart in kingdom hearts 2 and sephiroth was the main chute for that deposit of anger. But what was cloud seeing in Sephiroth that the community doesn’t see?

[@Final_RPG]

@@user-lm5ez7jx9hlol i do think that we will see cloud again really on Saturday when I live stream I’ll show you guys something that was very interesting to me and maybe you all will flip out once I point it out it’s some cool stuff

[@MrNobo15]

The master of masters is Sora's mom. She's had it up to here with his cold dinner.

[@Final_RPG]

That dinner is dusted loll

[@rainick]

Master of Masters = MOM As in SORA'S MOM!

[@Final_RPG]

@@rainick the story old as time 😂

[@k-lostmaster7821]

Lol

[@rafaelrobles8803]

Ong

[@freelands8355]

I'd like the Master of Masters to be someone new. The last thing I personally want is another Sora. We've got like fifty already

[@Final_RPG]

To each there own I'm just excited for the games 😄

[@purpleirken1529]

I honestly don't care who the Master of Masters would turn out to be I just love the guy. Whether he is a being of Light, Sora, or someone completely different it doesn't matter. What matters to me is the execution and explanation, basically what it means for the story as a whole.

[@Final_RPG]

Me too I love this comment!

[@GottaFistDemAll]

After watching the video: *"Ok, I believe you."*

[@Final_RPG]

LMAOO 😂

[@the_armada5579]

I think the MoM is actually soras mom. Think about it, MoM is spelled the same as mom, and the whole plan is to get sora back for dinner!

[@Final_RPG]

FACTS FACTS!!! LOL

[@Dragzilla66]

🍽 Hopefully she kept air frying his old dinner! 🤣

[@Final_RPG]

@@Dragzilla66 she got sucked up by the universal black hole and got folded in kh1 lmao

[@Dragzilla66]

@@Final_RPG True! That did happened. 😂💀

[@ng6635]

Sora, Dinners ready!

[@ChZenOnE]

MoM is Sora's Mom wanting revenge for him missing dinner

[@matthew1st]

And the dinner itself is in the black box

[@josh-uqb]

Banger! This one might as well blow up like the previous one, you went over it smoothly and added additional context in the comment made it all worth while I agree on your statements this was to fire 🔥

[@Final_RPG]

I tried my best man!

[@draklen2244]

This theory is bunk for several reasons. The biggest being that the master is very clever and manipulative while Sora is about as dumb as a rock.

[@Final_RPG]

I think you lack the education to make a statement for several reasons. This is a theory for 1 for 2 sora is not in hindsight it’s called adding charismatic moments to the character. And 3 people grow dawg ur talking about a 15 yr old and a grown up

[@draklen2244]

@@Final_RPG Sora is 15. If he were going to become a Machiavellian mastermind, we would have seen the signs by now. The master has no trouble sacrificing his so called friends in order to further his own goals. This alone puts Sora out of the equation as it runs counter to his entire character and would be roundly rejected by the fanbase. Nomura knows this and he's not stupid enough to try. And once again, Soras intelligence comes into play. Sora is a typical bumbling anime protagonist. He doesn't have the intelligence to come up with contingency after contingency. He's a pure hearted idiot who's going to win by the power of friendship. He's not as deep a character as you're trying to make him. Lets go over the gazing eye. One of your main arguments is that he had to have prior knowledge due to the fact that he hadn't given Luxu the eye yet but still had the information from the future to write down in the book of prophecy. Except that's not how the eye would work at all. It relays him the information at any given point from the future that it can see meaning he wouldn't have to have given Luxu the eye for it to already be working. Also Xehanort claimed he never found out who the master was. If it was Sora I'm pretty sure that line wouldn't exist unless of course he somehow forgot the name of one of his largest benefactors. More likely they blanked the name because its a major character we haven't been introduced to yet otherwise Xehanort would know the masters identity. You mentioned that Soras keyblade imagery is everywhere but that doesn't mean much considering his keyblade is literally a part of the x-blades design. This goes completely unmentioned in the game. Nomura just throws that thing around like candy so it being on Yozora's design means nothing whatsoever. This is just the argument off the top of my head. If I cared enough to actually do deep dive into the lore I'm sure I could bury your theory even deeper. Piece of advice, don't question someone's intelligence or education just because they disagree with you. Its a good way to lose a fanbase.

[@Final_RPG]

@@draklen2244 I don’t really care brotha

[@felipemorgado]

"I think you lack the education to make a statement 🤓☝️" thats you bro, wtf....

[@bigbang8739]

@@Final_RPG🤓

[@shockwave2657]

I think sora is a wild goose chase because this is too convenient, if the community believes he’s the MOM then go right ahead.

[@patlabsgaming5329]

It’s Kairi. This is where all her character development went.

[@Liokid20]

My personal idea is that master of masters is the sora who never got the chance to save everyone after they died so somehow he got sent towards the beginning of time and has just changed

[@Final_RPG]

Read my pinned comment I said this as well!

[@jeremysteinmark2845]

Sora is absolutely the MoM

[@Final_RPG]

Right it seems so but if he is or isn’t it’s okay as long as my boy be whooping ass that’s my guy

[@emoneyhardy1756]

Maybe the MoM is just the version of Sora that was consumed by the darkness when the world was consumed by darkness

[@Final_RPG]

Look at the pinned comment I talked about this similar to what u said

[@az_iz_to7458]

The Master of Masters might be Sora's Ancestor

[@shareefhaddad2377]

As long as it’s not the mainline Sora, but an alternate future version who either never had long(enough)term friendships or lost all faith in friendship, I’m fine.

[@Final_RPG]

Yeah this is exactly what I said in my pinned comment check it

[@AxeloftheKey]

Basically, here's my thoughts about MoM. We have a cutscene where he tells his name to Xehanort. *We* are not allowed to hear it. The simple question is: Why aren't we allowed to hear it? If MoM's name is not one we've heard already, or not obviously connected to/similar to a character we know, then eventually learning his name will make it seem really stupid why it was kept from us in the first place. The reason to tease his name, unless Nomura has just completely lost his mind (very possible), is that it will mean something when we hear it. It really could be anything, he could be tied to a lot of characters. But it being Sora just makes sense with how Nomura ties Sora into everything.

[@Final_RPG]

Exactly that is what I’m saying I’m glad you enjoyed it and stuck around thank you so much for sticking around and commenting I really appreciate the feed back!

[@phoenixraven5692]

​@@Final_RPGWe appreciate you!

[@Final_RPG]

@@phoenixraven5692 thank you man 🙏

[@Pannopap]

I don't think the MoM is literally Sora. I think he's supposed to be a parallel to Sora. So the similarities are probably there to make him a foil to Sora.

[@Final_RPG]

I feel that to each there own man!

[@TaigaGalette]

sora cant even figure out his shoe size 1 thing ata time ok

[@Final_RPG]

Loll

[@Valentien23]

Lmaoo

[@RonaldPoe]

I'm huge KH fan and like your explanations but I disagree with the theory itself. Sora and the Master of Masters aren't that similar. Sora's not a manipulator at all and rarely even plans ahead. He's also incredibly loyal to his friends and would never ever sacrifice them no matter how jaded he got. MOM plans on sacrificing the Foretellers to stop the Darkness (a plan Sora wouldn't ever go along with, let alone come up with). Their main similarities are both being goofballs at times but MOM is much more of a ham. Also Sora never officially became a Keyblade Master. Nomura probably wouldn't go with a popular fan theory anyway. My theory is the Master of Masters is supposed to be the KH version of Lucifer (the Devil, not the cat from Cinderella). He's a being constantly associated with Light (Lucifer is Latin for Lightbringer or Morning Star) but has connections to the embodiment of Darkness. He's also a charismatic manipulator and intellectual who's implied to be hundreds of years old. His apprentices are named after the Seven Deadly Sins and he presumably represents Pride. Also Master of Masters sounds a lot like King of Kings (Jesus' title in the Book of Revelation).

[@Final_RPG]

no worries thank you for watching regardless it means a ton even if it is just theory and that's kind enough of you to share your own opinions and look on thing's

[@Mariofan10EX]

That's a pretty good theory

[@derschaff787]

His symbol implies exactly that. It's an heart with an angel and an Devil wing. It would fit pretty well

[@OrganizationXIII]

Nomura would never go this dark with kingdom hearts sadly! His dark game would of been final fantasy versus 13! Maybe Verum Rex can be the game versus 13 wasn’t!

[@jonahmartin1474]

The book of prophecies is jiminies journal

[@betawolfgamer7217]

Nomura is probably like: these theories are too predictable. Let’s throw them a few curveballs

[@osriocesar]

I bet he thinks about putting the Smash appearance somewhere

[@betawolfgamer7217]

@@osriocesar im sure he will tie it into the lore somehow lol

[@smoothsoulbrotha]

The MoM is Nomura. His only purpose is to provide entertainment for the real world. This is why he chose a world that resembles our own, knowing that Sora would be oblivious to this fact.

[@Final_RPG]

Nomura is giving sora’s dinner that his mom never gave him

[@OtterloopB]

It's obviously Max Goof. The entire saga of Kingdom Hearts was a convoluted plan on Max's part to keep himself out of prison after inadvertently killing that security guard at the end of A Goofy Movie...

[@Final_RPG]

Dude you know what me and my friends joked about this but it is literally canon that goofy accidentally killed his wife cause he took a picture of her and she fell off the grand canyon cause he told her to step back more for the photo. Max is the master of masters because he wants to kill his father and friends to make him feel pain 🤣🤣🤣🤣☠️

[@RoxasRamirez]

Honestly, this is one that would just blow me away but if it did ever happen, but its gotta have a badass reveal. you know what i mean? As a theory, this one truly is fun to believe in. But for the sake of original content, i don't 'want' it to be ya know? Like I'd rather see a new original character that adds more lore and depth to the series. I would like to explore his past. Seeing these friends and ones he loved die and not to be seen for years and just his youth really. How he engaged with other hearts. How he even managed to cope and greive alone and just dedicate so much to fighting a war with darkness and not falling in it (that we know of) in the first place. He's a strong character, with clearly a strong heart. Anways, in short I hope not but would love to see it if fleshed out well. Also, what do you think of Sora ever being a villain? Pretty badass to me but i don't think mommy Disney would ever want him to be and would deny papa nomura. (Why the f**k did i type that? Cringe as hell)

[@Final_RPG]

Lol I see what you’re trying to say but Riku became evil and he’s in the same boat as sora and sora does have massive darkness the one pulled out from Xehanort during there battle when he was in rage form it literally shook kingdom hearts so I think it would definitely be badass and I think it would need to be a grand reveal if it does ever happen to be this way!

[@FrostDJakki3529]

Soras dad is the MoM. 😂

[@Final_RPG]

Yknow that would be honestly ridiculous

[@FrostDJakki3529]

@@Final_RPG lmao

[@jacoryarnett7347]

Nah, it can't be. In BBS Riku mention Sora's Dad to Terra who brought them to the island from the boat.

[@Final_RPG]

@@jacoryarnett7347you’re right but it would just be funny

[@mannyegarica12]

It will make sense why Vanitas looks like Sora in the first place

[@Final_RPG]

I’m glad you liked the video man!

[@baruchbelmont5821]

I know a lot of people don't agree with this theory but I think you explained it very well. 6 years ago I commented on a Master of Masters discussion video about knowing who the Master of Masters was, and it was Sora, for many of the reasons you pointed out here. But one major factor you missed was actually hidden in the Union x Medal tutorial. It states "They are the physical manifestation of power from the future, drawn by the Book of Prophecies." And we already know who wrote the book of prophecies. We borrow power from the future through the tome of Prophecies, which include all of Sora's connections, all of his friends, and his friends are his power, and through the tome he gave that power to us, the player. Just put two and two together. So yes, Master of Masters is absolutely Sora from a future where darkness did prevail. And Tetsuya himself did say during an interview that he is surprised people haven't figured out who it was yet, I did day one.

[@Final_RPG]

Yeah I do remember this too actually I just wouldn’t think it’s solid evidence for todays people but in again it is a theory and not everyone will buy it

[@baruchbelmont5821]

@@Final_RPG Especially since it's Kingdom Hearts. If he literally said he was Sora people would still have a hard time believing it probably haha. But, asides from them sitting the same we can't forget that Master of Masters is literally the reason Ventus is a thing, and why Sora has the ability to wield a keyblade. If he didn't start a war early or tell Ava to create the dandelions Ventus would have never been sent through time, and Sora wouldn't have had power connected to the past through Ventus to defeat the darkness.

[@Final_RPG]

@@baruchbelmont5821 yeah I literally showed proof for this video of Nomura literally saying sora canonically won this fight and it was never ambiguous and people still think otherwise but I’m not gonna sit here for days trying to fight it I know the truth lol that’s what matters

[@baruchbelmont5821]

@@Final_RPG Indeed, speak your truth and just wait to say you were right when KH4 releases, it's what I'm doing lol.

[@ViroVeteruscy]

Wouldn't be surprised if Sora's body (or a replica) is in the box waiting to get to a certain point in time for MoM to return to it, thus finally returning home. Luxu: What's in the box? MoM: I'm in the box. Luxu: But why? MoM: You'll see~

[@Final_RPG]

That would be so dark lol

[@Gunsmoke2220]

The box contains Data Daybreak town

[@burritowyrm6530]

into the soraverse

[@Final_RPG]

Deadass

[@burritowyrm6530]

@@Final_RPG sora society 💀

[@Final_RPG]

@@burritowyrm6530 man did rewrite every reality I’m surprised no one has made a video of him walking into different verses saying some crazy shit LMAO what ai can do loll

[@elijahpayne1344]

the MoM is xehanort because everyone is xehanort

[@Final_RPG]

Lol nooo😭

[@glitchyfox8706]

my crazy theory is that the MOM purposly ended himself with a keyblade so that he could exist as just a heart then grabbed his nobody and messed with it into becoming sora. Why would he do this? who knows but since KH seems making things confusing then maby this will be the part where we see what happens when the heart of a being tryes to recomplte themselves when their nobody has already grown a new heart.

[@spiritfox123]

A couple of other things I noticed while the MoM was flipping through that book that tie Sora to it were the heartless bodyguard that Ansem controls and a shadow. Obviously, Sora fought against Ansem and his bodyguard. But the shadow is significant because in KH1 when he released Kairi's heart from his own, he turned into a shadow.

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

I mean of course he is him after all :P

[@Final_RPG]

I’m me he says lmao Riku and Riku

[@JERRY_BEING_JERRYEDITS]

Xion and sora have the same color eyes

[@Final_RPG]

So does roxas and Kairi and terra and ven and aqua….lol

[@Ant10doeditz]

Cypher Jerry is the goat

[@JesseLeeArtworks]

Your theory is eye opening! Really cool. The MoM can be a alternate Sora. The Sora that lost it all while OUR Sora is the Sora that rewrote the fate of all his friends in KH3 when he saved them all.

[@Final_RPG]

Yes exactly 💯 thank you for watching and sticking around

[@OrganizationXIII]

It’s the only theory that makes sense! I hope MOM is the alternate Sora that failed to save everyone and thus drove him insane! Cause you know Sora breaks down without his friends! So he turned into the MOM

[@oughein]

My biggest issue that nobody seems to talk about is Soras level of intelligence, I have a hard time, believing that he’s smart enough to orchestrate a complex plan we’ve never really seen examples of him being strategic or much of a critical thinker the master of masters also has a strong sense of wit and humor that I just don’t get from sora so if he is some how mom he’s going to have to change drastically as a character

[@Final_RPG]

Which is completely fine and I mean kh 3 he rewrote all realities and he even made out events that happen exactly the same with out messing anything up which is very good on his end better smart for the way he went about it to pose out and stop Xehanorts plan

[@andrewerath5585]

I agree, but at the same time I thought the same for Xigbar/Luxu. But now look at him

[@YoungProfessorUtonium]

@@andrewerath5585 Xigbar 1000% always had an aura of "I know more than I'm letting on". Curious to see how this theory plays out for sure.

[@OrganizationXIII]

@@YoungProfessorUtoniumwe only have to wait 10 plus years to get Kingdom Hearts 4 and than another 10 plus years to get Verum Rex

[@thekingdomspulse]

There is a fourth option for Yozora's quote: "I accidently wandered into this place, and went through some trials. Then, I was told to save Sora". I know you said you didn't want to go back to Dream Drop Distance, but once you realized add the additional context of the power of waking it becomes clear. In KH3, Young Xehanort describes the power of waking as the ability to traverse hearts to reach worlds. This is consistent with the way we first see it used in DDD when Riku uses it to wake Sora at the end of the game. if you remember, he dives down on to Sora's station of awakening (his heart), and is then transported to Sora's dream of Destiny Islands (a world). It's important to recognize what the power of waking looks like because we will realize that Yozora uses it on Sora. If you remember, Yozora points his crossbow at Sora, then Sora's station of awakening (his heart) appears from underneath them, then Quadratum (a world) appears around them. This is the power of waking. Now that we have identified Yozora's use of the power of waking, we know that from this point onwards, they are inside Sora's dream because that's what the power of waking does. With this added context, there is now another way to interpret what Yozora says next: "I accidently wandered into this place, and went through some trials. Then, I was told to save Sora". "this place" can now be interpreted as meaning Sora's dream. If you then add on the rest of the quote, this is Riku's exact plot from DDD. In DDD, Riku accidently ends up in Sora's dream; then he goes through the mark of master, which Yen Sid directly compares to being a trail ("more trial than test", Yen Sid says); then at the end of the game, Riku is told to wake Sora, which is really close to "save Sora". So what does this mean? Yozora is speaking in the first person. He believes this happened to him. If my theory holds true, we know this didn't actually happen to him. It happened to RIku. In other words, Yozora has at least some of RIku's memories. Sorry for bringing in DDD, lol. DDD is actually even more important in my larger theory as to who Yozora actually is. But to get back to the topic of the video, all I'm trying to say, is that I've so far not found really any evidence that would connect Yozora to the Master of Masters. Not saying that they aren't connected, just I haven't found any evidence of this myself and am unconvinced, so far, by others' attempt to connect them. As for why Yozora is in the Final World, I do actually think that Yozora died (or nearly died) pratly because I think that the Car ride cutscene is a flashback and doesn't happen after Sora and Yozora's fight. But that's part of an even larger theory that involves Yozora's purpose and, as many people have theorized, Versus 13 recontextualized into Kingdom Hearts.

[@mattwo7]

Does he believe his true form is Riku?

[@thekingdomspulse]

@@mattwo7 The first video on my channel explains my whole theory, so you can watch that if you want, but if you want to know the conclusion: Yozora is a heartless created from Sora and Riku. During DDD, Riku was inside Sora's heart when he fell to darkness and this is where I believe Yozora originates. To answer your question directly, since it's not in my theory video, It's possible he does think this, but I see no evidence. He probably doesn't think he looks like Sora because he's met Sora and made no indication that he knows what Sora looks/looked like. So, yeah, I think it's possible he thinks he is Riku or originaly looks like Riku. Or he knows that he's a heartless and therefore he thinks his true form would be a heartless.

[@notkeracen3484]

I think sora is the MoM because MoM is a silly goofy guy and who else is a silly goofy guy? Sora.

[@Amocoru]

This is usually second monitor kind of stuff. I'm playing a game or working while I listen to this stuff. You gotta read the text parts.

[@kinghermes43]

Theres a video called foreshadowing sora a villain, which basically explains that past games pretty much foreshadowed sora fate to becoming the mom/villain which sora true keyblade might be no name and riku true weapon will be the kingdom key and riku ends up being more important in the story to help save sora. don't wanna get to deep into this or 100% this, but its so much evidences.

[@OrganizationXIII]

What about Yozora

[@procrastinationstation3343]

I personally lean towards Demyx being the MoM just because I think it’s funny and makes sense. But I def think this theory is viable as well. It would make for an amazing reveal. And even with this theory being pretty well known in the kh community it would still be an absolute shock

[@Final_RPG]

☝️ I agree

[@BRUIN1821]

I just wanna know where everyone is getting that coat that has been made the same exact way for centuries & everybody both good and bad wears them. There has to be something there not revealed other than them protecting against darkness

[@thenobody7509]

I have my own little opinion on this topic. Could it be possible that sora is actually the Fake Light. Which MoM mentioned briefly? If so then here is an interesting idea What if Sora is MoM because Sora is a literal piece of his heart which somehow got a form and grew into its own. Mean, MoM's name could be Lux which means Light and if sora is a "Fake" version of him then sora would be a Fake Light

[@Final_RPG]

That would be really interesting

[@thenobody7509]

​@@Final_RPGHope you see this. This is apart of another idea I had. If MoM saw the future then he would see what happens to Ventus and if MoM's plan still involves ven then of course he would need to save him somehow. Sora saved Ven. How did that happen? Well what if that's why sora is a "Fake Light." MoM needed someone to save ventus when xehanort broke his heart. So he made one

[@ShiroMaKun]

Well after KH2 I had kinda the idea, that Sora might be MoM, because of Roxas - who looks like Ventus. We have Vanitas, who looks like Sora and Vanitas goal was to merge with Ventus again and overpower him to become whole again. In KH3 when Ventus and Sora asked, why Vanitas is the way he is, he simply says because it is the way he is, like he's born this way and complete opposite to Sora. So what if Sora was never "whole" all this years, because in his heart he could take Ventus', Roxas' and Xions hearts (even Kairis heart in KH1), but it was supposed to be Vanitas? And Ventus was supposed to be the "caretaker"/"vessel" up to this point? My other theorie is, that darkness grows in Sora, so he won't be able to control it. In KH1 there was no dark Sora, it started in KH2 when he couldn't handle the power anymore (abused the power) in KH3 Sora can handle it better, kinda but there was one time where Xehanort kinda brought Sora into Dark Mode in the fight, like he could just switch it. And since Sora denies darkness with his mind, he denies his other part of power, which he won't accept to learn to handle it (bc he fears to hurt anyone). And now Sora did a taboo, broke a rule. So maybe MoM intended to do so, so Sora has to accept the darkness of his own and Yozora has to watch and protect him. If Sora learns his own darkness and accepts it, he would be like the most powerful Keyblade wielder, like the Master of Masters.

[@iTzTraffy]

The Theory is interesting but i don‘t think it‘s true. Simply from Nomura saying that Sora isn‘t anyone special. He wasn’t chosen by the Keyblade or anything and i would like Nomura to keep it that way. The best part about Sora for me is that he‘s just a Kid who got lucky and since then used the Courage and the power to believe in himself but even more so in his friends to change the outcome to his favor. His Go-Lucky attitude is what makes him Special and what makes Sora, Sora. Tho it could very well be true, guess we‘ll find out in Kingdom Hearts 16 lmao.

[@Final_RPG]

Lmfao 🤣

[@Sanimatez7865]

That’s what I am saying! We have had so many Sora counterparts that pop up in the game there’s no way the Master is not Sora! Unless he’s secretly Soras dad who’s on a mission to beat his ass for not coming to dinner in KH 1.

[@Final_RPG]

Sora ain't getting his ass beat dude is gonna be handing that out

[@Sanimatez7865]

@@Final_RPGLmao fair fair😂

[@CocoaCatniptv]

I still think if the MOM is actually someone we already know….it’ll be Demyx. Watching cutscenes of the MOM he just seems a lot more similar to Demyx than Sora. I have a feeling the MOM will be a new character though. I think a villain that’s sort of a foil to Sora is a lot more interesting than them revealing that MOM is an adult Sora from some alternate timeline. Still an interesting theory though.

[@sanic2794]

Demyx was also in the kh3 scene with marluxia and larxene when xemnas was mentioning their past keyblade wielding and so far we haven't seen his somebody in any of the mobile games

[@peterk.m58]

Pretty sure the MoM is definitely Sora from a different Multiverse. But a Sora that failed to save Kairi because it was suppose to be a Canon Event.

[@TrijayDCKA]

The only way I can think that sora is the master of masters is if there's some type of 'time-loop'. Perhaps all the released titles might have been the actual chronological order after all and the only way to break that loop is what could be the role for the black box. I feel since nearly every character is sora in some sort of way, It would be no surprise if the master of masters was him too. On a side note, Nomura seems to change stuff up when the fans have an idea on cracking the code of the entire plot (just a personal theory of mine). However, we all expected Bragi to be braig and yet some of us second guessed ourselves and it was still revealed to be true. But as mentioned near the end of the video about vanitas, that's probably the main reason why I still hold on to the "sora being MoM" theory; all the foretellers' names correspond to the seven deadly sins, the only name that hasn't been used was pride. A lot of people expected the master's name to be Superbia since the name "XSuper" was on the black box. Vanity is another word for pride and if I'm not mistaken, Vanitas is translated for Vanity in Latin. To back this up, let's not forget that master xehanort extracted the darkness from Ven and named it Vanitas. Now remember from kh3 Re:mind, we see young Xehanort encounter the master of masters and revealed his name. Perhaps he decided to give Vanitas his name in honor of the one and only time meeting the master.

[@SBaby]

I'll say this. If Nomura is doing what I think he's doing with the collective KH series, then the MoM is actually Sora's father.

[@calvinwarthur1770]

Huh, yeah thats a good answer but the question is? Why is he doing this if he doing this to destory or saving this world from darkness mumbo jumbo sacrifcing his comrades and away from his son then, why?😑😑 there's must be some clue to this action if he is sora father 😑😑

[@SBaby]

@@calvinwarthur1770 I think the reason is not because he is trying to save the world from darkness. He is trying to end conflict between light and darkness, which have been in a perpetual battle since before the time of the Foretellers. So to this end, he reasons that the only way to do this is to destroy the ability of either side to fight.

[@calvinwarthur1770]

@@SBaby yes but what i'm trying to say is what is his " *End game of his* " i'm tying things from union-cross and some detail but its just end of the war between just " *light and darkness* " but from my opinion or perspective he didn't need to as he can just let a easy task to his own hand by not doing his diabolical things to his own fortunetellers and the dandelions (i don't know if i'm right or not but i just maybe making this up but i'm just speculating Mid-theoris of this long saga) and ventus is one of many as why him as the X-blade or ķéý-blade if there's an explanation of things related to him (for not to confusing others as normal keyblade) and why do this, why make the life of younger keybalde suffer on this war for what? i'm just speculating things but thats just about it but i'm just gonna shut my mouth and see this Lost Master saga for it is the secret for the entirety of saga of kingdom hearts 😇😇😇(P.S i'm sorry if i'm speculating things or making things up but i'm just quite puzzling on this soo if i'm making offensive remark then i'm so sorry for this 🙏🙏🙏😔😔😔😇and i hope its not to bodering you on this )

[@Dreq458]

*Has* to be? Okay, I'll bite.

[@Final_RPG]

Lol thank you for at least giving a watch and taking a listen I appreciate it

[@Influence_Force_99]

Background music is too loud man.

[@austincoole289]

It’s awful

[@a.j.4547]

this theory and video is fire 🔥

[@Final_RPG]

Thank you AJ!

[@CreamerOfTheDairySquad]

The master of masters is Light. They literally revealed that in a cutscene when young Xehanort asked the master of masters what his name was. If you played the mobile game there is a "Darkness" makes sense that there is a "light"

[@Ant10doeditz]

Also perry the platypus is master of masters fr

[@edwaffle]

I’ve been thinking about it for a long time now, since finishing Kingdom Hearts 3, and the more videos I see about Master of Masters, the more I think it is indeed Sora from sometime in the future. I think that after doing everything he can to save the world, his friends, and his loved one, he still loses no matter what. He breaks and decides to create a new universe somehow where he never loses anyone. And you point to some interesting things too, him losing his friends to darkness and also vanishing! I really do hope the series does this, it would look incredibly cool, specially after so much emphasis on MoM… if he ends up being a new character or someone irrelevant, it’s gonna be very disappointing.

[@Final_RPG]

I can feel that Nomura has stated before it is someone we know by saying I’m surprised people haven’t figured it out who it is yet when master of masters was first introduced

[@michaelwhitmire9015]

It would make sense that the master of masters was a time displaced sora.remember sora lost the fight originally but used the power of waking to get a do over,so the master of masters being sora from the original event would be interesting.

[@monokomomo4977]

too bad this theory doesn't work given how MoM was before the keyblade war and is the reverse of sora with sora given up his existance for everyone while MoM gives up everyone else for his plan, its gotta be a new character thats not fully created yet or random bullshit of a alternate timeline sora thats been displaced into the very far past

[@henrique7137]

Yeah, bit of a shame but who knows it could be someone like Demyx still

[@MrSlaughterrific]

​@@henrique7137dance water dance

[@emrickazor2610]

I must be Sira too. I sit exactly like him except mirrored when I am on a ledge too! Nah for real though, I really don't want Sora to be the MoM, mostly because that is far too easy for them to just do. Instead, I'd rather MoM be someone we've seen a hundred times over, but would never even suspect to be the Master. Riku is MoM theory when? Think about it, the first time we see the gazing eye in the series is in Riku's hands.

[@olajuwonspears9448]

Definitely agree made a lot of good points in the video Master of Masters line from Union cross definitely solidified it in my book with the ending of Kh3 Remind when Sora basically reverses time so his friends don't die/ saves kairi . I think the black box is literally a black box that contains the data from the entire universe

[@Final_RPG]

I mean every place is a universe in kh so there’s multiple multiverses the thing is tho that is ansems data in kh 2 which is why recoded happens because it’s comprised of all the universes

[@tylercafe1260]

My only problem with the theory is that it's literally a "Grandfather Paradox" if that were true. Sora "mysteriously" receives the Keyblade even though it was actually Rikus. But now it would suddenly be Sora created the Keyblade Sora's been using? That's a classic time travel paradox. Master of Master's explained to his apprentices he created the Keyblades based off the X-Blade when he studied it. The X-Blade origins and the Keyblade War he spoke of when he was a child contradict the theory. Though you could technically make the argument because MoM has possession to study the X-Blade that in itself should be enough evidence of him being Sora. The only thing contradicting that is MoM story of the Keyblade War happening when he was just a kid and was fought over possession of the X-Blade. We only know X-Blade is the counterpart to Kingdom Hearts but as for the Origins of Kingdom Hearts in itself that's still the greater mystery. If Sora is somehow actually MoM then they're going to have to explain in vivid detail what Kingdom Hearts actually is and where it came from. Otherwise that'd mean Sora created Keyblades, Dreameaters, Organization Cloaks, Data Worlds, The Arc, and Time Travel. It's not that I 100% don't believe it but when I compare it to some other theories it doesn't quite make sense especially when you really look at MoM and what he's been doing... Personally I think there's something much crazier going on. When you consider how intangled Light and Darkness are to one another isn't it weird that he created the Cloak to "Protect Against Darkness" and yet when we see these cloaked fighters they're against Warriors of Light... Also something that just popped in my head Namine. Namine is directly connected to Sora and his memories. Wouldn't she be able to see MoM memories if he was actually Sora? Namine powers have shown to be much greater than we previously thought. She was responsible for summoning Lingering Will by recalling his memories from his heart. Surely she would've noticed a connection by now. MoM is also ultimately a scientist. Which makes me think of at least 1 other character as a potential candidate for the true identity.

[@CensoredError]

i always thought if this theory holds up a possibility is sora created a paradox like the zelda games where one timeline he fails but is the only one to survive and goes on to become the master and the other is the sora we follow

[@Final_RPG]

Yeah kinda similar in a way yes

[@deepmind5318]

Why else would the master's face remain hidden. There's something square enix doesn't want us to know yet.

[@Final_RPG]

Man’s face has been hidden since 2013 lmao 😭😂

[@jeremysteinmark2845]

So here’s my full theory Sora is the MoM and I’m going to explain why Mannerism match up pretty well to sora as shown in the video. The MoM’s also jokes around a lot which sora does as well. Here’s my full theory The MoM is sora from the future. In that timeline the MoM never originally existed. Basically in that timeline as sora got older( years after beating master xehanort in KH 3 and possibly after returning from the other reality) he would start to go to a little more drastic measures to protect his friends and stop the darkness. Sora goes too far and this causes his friends to turn against him and abandon him. Sora then finds out that the darkness was the reason why his friends turned against him and abandoned him. Basically the darkness was manipulating sora behind the curtains. Sora finds out but it’s too late and the darkness kills all his friends and family and destroys all the worlds leaving Sora completely alone. Sora decides to use all his power and travel back in time to make sure this doesn’t happen again. Sora sets himself up as the first keyblade wielder and calls himself the MoM’s. He writes the book of prophecies and sets up the unions. In a sense he becomes a paradox. This would work because the only way for a person to know the future to such a specific degree is because they would’ve had to lived through it. Sora puts his eye in the No Name keyblade just so he can keep an eye on the things that he didn’t directly experience such as the events of dark road, birth by sleep, and other events. Regarding that black box. In future sora’s timeline he used whatever was in the black box but it went wrong and this would be one of main ways sora goes too far. What I think is that the MoM (future sora) is so burdened by grief of his mistakes and anger over the darkness is that he wants to create another timeline that has all darkness wiped out. So the MoM wants to use whatever is in the black box to do that but this time use it to wipe the current timeline and remake it into a new one.

[@Fragmentsinfractals488]

I think it is the Child of Destiny (Sora and Riku) as One person setting up their own existence. They script themselves into existence.

[@kallyle6611]

The only way I see this working is if the Master of Masters was a version of Sora from a different background. It’s said that your circumstances shape who you are, so perhaps the Master of Masters is a version of Sora who didn’t have many friends or who lost all of them permanently.

[@Final_RPG]

yeah this is kinda what i said the pinned comment

[@smoothsoulbrotha]

Remember, Sora had to use the power of waking to prevent losing everyone permanently. The MoM is also known for using the power of waking in dire circumstances only to "disappear"

[@theorycraft7138]

easy you have 2 versions of sora the one who is from timeline 1 who lost all his friends lost his heart and went back in time to become MOM, and timeline 2 where he changes fate and lives on. the old world line would have kingdom hearts activate and become the new world, which is quadratum and the old world which is the current worldline we are in.

[@ggloitergg]

hes probably just gonna make it another vessel of sora that probably lose in his timeline since we are adding time travel apparently and came to fix what was lost. short but simple

[@ggloitergg]

Simple and clean i mean

[@larrybills5840]

Time travel has been a thing since Dream Drop Distance

[@Statuslock]

I hope Yozura's driver is Volt Krueger from The Bouncer lmao.

[@Final_RPG]

Dude… dude LOL ME AND MY FRIENDS MADE FUN OF THIS THE OTHER DAY😂

[@MisterX867]

I'd approve of any The Bouncer cameo in KH lol

[@Its_PT_Baby]

Idk if he's joking one guy said it was Pluto, because of the leading and him being allowed to follow in darkness trying to conclude is impossible it could possiblly be yen sid or merlin I had no reasoning besides being old enough to fit the part

[@kibohiskeyblade7890]

I would rather have Master of Masters be a new character. This theory of yours is pretty cool, though.

[@Final_RPG]

I thank you for that!

[@kalenmarshall8692]

If he ends up being MoM than this will be the same plot as infamous lol

[@joeytremblay5689]

Smoking on that touka pack lol

[@kofinart]

Nomura is the MoM, hear me out. There's a fucking box, box = square, Quadratum = Square, He knows a ton of shit, walks around "giving" characters purposes etc. The MoM is Nomura's self insert.

[@Final_RPG]

LMFAOO

[@TronSAHeroXYZ]

Yep, Sora can even assimilate into Kairi's body. Pretty hard to NOT SEE that his HEART contains ALL HEARTS.

[@rncdchs]

I personally just like this theory and wouldnt mind if it was true

[@struanpeat5116]

i think MoM is Luxu think about it he goes through time whitnessing all that the gazing eye keyblade does, he already knows the fundimentals of timetravel, and enjoys the user of the black coats, he's even used to living with one eyes, so taking one out (in the next vessle) won't be too much of an issue for him.

[@gachagav_gc]

Isn't Luxu already Zigbar?

[@Avalon247]

Sora is Kingdom Hearts himself

[@lunarshadow5584]

Some things to keep in mind, Yozora isn't in the body he's meant to be in. It is likely that whatever existence gave him that new look also gave him the trials which he told to us ended with the mission "Save Sora". So while the nameless stars name being Sora makes sense and can still be true, its unlikely that its her that's meant to be saved. That is likely a bait to confuse us, Yozora misunderstanding who was being asked to save because he knows someone already named Sora only to meet a new one, ours. (Though something could be said about her losing her name likely that being given to Sora by someone else to jumpstart his prophecy into the new world) About Vanitas being the MoM's darkness, I believe he did let his loose but I don't believe its Vanitas. It was said that Vanitas isn't even one of the main 7 darknesses, him being a weaker version that escape being wiped out along with the others by the Union X protagonist. But for MoM's darkness, I believe he let his loose in the other world, which is how the KH4 trailer starts. Light and Darkness shouldn't exist in that world but they do, and the only way heartless would exist in that world is if darkness does. I do believe it being Sora would be a big brain move, but I also believe it would be just as great if it turned out that the MoM had pulled off an Aizen, a "I am the reason you were even born" move. Maybe even have both the "I created you" and "I am your past life" mixed together, only Nomura knows for sure.

[@Final_RPG]

Yeah it sounds completely plausible man

[@soul8648]

imagine doing Uinion Cross roleplay or KH roleplay and try to change here and there in UX (your character being friends with Ven pre meeting in the KBG)

[@magicvalgirl2309]

HOW ARE WE SO OBLIVIOUS!? Thank you for this theory!

[@Final_RPG]

Do not mention it!

[@MBCWCWMTC]

no yeah from his background weve been given from back cover and union cross. everything points to him not being either fully human. or something else a embodiment of light? darkness's opposite? Ven was revealed basically to be that type of person to. to not be a princess of heart but be considered a "true" light that has the capability to force darkness into new circumstances. if the master has that same ability as ven but hes trying to use it in a way it ends with darkness being totally eliminated. he must believe he cant make that happen in a world where the rules of reality arent set like the Kingdom hearts universe is established to be.

[@thatboiyessir4707]

Noiiiceee

[@TheKaiyash]

I think the timeliness got split when everyone dissapeared in the 10,000 heartless battle and then THAT Sora ended up becoming MoM And while I don't believe Sora to be so....let's say "book smart" I can most definitely see him attempt anything to see his friends again Hope I'm wrong because MoM seems to not really care that much who wins in terms of the whole "light vs dark" battle

[@breejordon6042]

This on my Mama. The second I was introduced to the master of masters, I thought "this guy is acting sort of like sora right now"

[@Final_RPG]

The way he acts is very similar yes I agree 💯

[@masteroflight7296]

Imagine building up all his mystery and hype behind MoM only for it to be a completely new character? How anticlimactic would that actually be? Imagine it “omg this guy is so mysterious I can’t wait to see who he is!!. OMG HES GONNA SHOW HIS FACE!!! ITS.....ITS......just some dude....wow”

[@YoungProfessorUtonium]

Separate from the points being brought up in this video, a series could do this by dropping hints about a new character throughout the new saga and then having him be said new character we've grown attached to. Not saying that's the case here, but it's not impossible to make it compelling.

[@Final_RPG]

@@YoungProfessorUtoniumyou’re completely right I see both of your points I think it’s more left to interpretation for now and that’s completely fine everyone is allowed to think about how they see it and have there own ideas and there isn’t anything wrong with that love y’all! Don’t let people bash on ya for nothing else about what you think is gonna happen it is just a video game in the end game

[@YoungProfessorUtonium]

@@Final_RPG I appreciate you trying to keep the peace in your comments. I saw you say how you're trying to respond to everything. You're doing fine, my dude. Good luck on your growth!

[@Final_RPG]

@@YoungProfessorUtonium i fucking thank you from the bottom of my heart it is really really overwhelming although i know i cannot please everybody and that's a given i was maintain peace and have people be happy enjoy videos and be apart of the community and i wanna try to do anything in my power to help or make people excited have a smile on their face for the day. so even if someone doesn't like that's okay i'll be streaming on Saturday if i can so everyone can come and talk and hangout

[@Deathbringersora]

I think the MoM is Sora, but the one we see at the beginning is from the distant future and his efforts in Daybreak Town are to create a different version of himself by changing history. Once history had started to change he vanished from the world because he no longer went back to that time, and created a time paradox. He needed Luxu to ensure that events were happening as they should all the way to the battle in the keyblade graveyard, but this is where it changes... I think that a version of MoM appeared to Yozora and trained him up in a similar manner to the foretellers so that "He' as the new Sora could meet him as he intended. The term "saving" I believe refers to the saving of data which Yozora has the ability to copy things(steal) and the purpose of is for Sora's file to be opened later in the future but Yozora found Sora before he should have.

[@Final_RPG]

This is kinda what I was saying in my comment on the pinned

[@Bruh-ii2mp]

I'm convinced it's the character who's personified as jack from ff type 0 (I think that's the game he's from) . That character being demyx. Jack, is a character who no one really understands. He seems happy go lucky type guy, scared cowardly etc but he hardly ever shows his true side. Always a mask, who does this sound similar to? Demyx. Prime example is demyx acting scared of sora in kh2 then turning around and giving probably one of the most menacing looks in kh in general. This isn't a connection to Jack but it's to tobi in naruto: the character that seems cowardly weak, ect, but has more knowledge and is way stronger than they seem, never knowing what their motive is. Back to the point, each and every one of the foretellers have posture and personality similarity to each character in type 0. It's actually pretty uncanny to look at. There are pics on google if you want to look at it. Also, the ux clock tower, is almost built identically to the clock tower in type o

[@Ant10doeditz]

Hey man happy you made this. I already knew this theory, but it’s always fun and interesting to here. If Sora isn’t MoM, then I don’t know who it could be. If not, I hope it’s a new character. Anyways, thanks for making this, I’ve been hella stressed lately and I love your vids

[@Final_RPG]

You’re welcome man I’ll always be here for you if you need me in anything no matter what dude always keep pushing forward you’re one in a billion my homie. Also yeah we have spoken about this quite a bit together haven’t we

[@Ant10doeditz]

@@Final_RPG about 4 months ago you first brought it up (I think)

[@Final_RPG]

@@Ant10doeditz yeah somewhere around there I believe this one has been a long time coming loll

[@Ant10doeditz]

@@Final_RPG it has

[@vexzel5550]

Everyone is Sora. Everything is Sora. Xehanort norting everyone is just part of Sora's grand plan throughout time and space. A piece in Sora's puzzle. Everything is Sora's plan as he orchestrated everything since his birth to fulfill his ultimate plan of defeating all the darkness and becoming the ultimate light. Sora has the power to manipulate the past and create the future he wants.

[@TronSAHeroXYZ]

Yep, Sora can even assimilate into Kairi's body. Pretty hard to NOT SEE that his HEART contains ALL HEARTS.

[@vexzel5550]

@ckgamingchannel8066 Sora is Kingdom Hearts *drops mic and walks away You don't hear me saaay Please, oh Baby! DONT GO! Simple, and clean is the way that you're making me feeel Tonight It's hard to let it go*

[@ZAYVERYRARE]

Interesting theory, it’s definitely something to keep in mind.

[@Final_RPG]

Glad you think so man! And thank you for watching and noting it!

[@botanbutton]

At this point, I'll take anything. 😭 I also have not heard this theory before.

[@Final_RPG]

Loll I feel you and now you’re welcome for sharing it and passing it to you! 😄

[@grandjae]

Wht if the joker card Luxord gave him probably made it possible for this interaction

[@Final_RPG]

That would be interesting I will never forget about that card 😭😂

[@Fallout1Boi]

the story is so bad to point where theories like this seem better than what will probably be true

[@Final_RPG]

Oh come on now don’t say that 😭💀

[@aoto8897]

Bruh. This theory is cliche. I don’t want the main hero to be the main villain. It has been overdone in many stories.

[@OrganizationXIII]

@@aoto8897what stories! I rarely see the main character being the villain! I love that concept

[@Yurikon3]

@@aoto8897 Everything in KH so far has been JRPG cliche in some form or another. KH is light-weight in some of those cliches.

[@TylerAngelle]

It’s kind of hard to focus on the video with that loud ass piano in the background🤣

[@Final_RPG]

I apologize on the volume I didn’t realize that it was actually that loud till everyone was saying so I’ll be live streaming Saturday maybe you guys can tell me if I can change it

[@followerofyeshua9210]

Anyone notice his theme is just a distorted version of soras theme

[@Final_RPG]

Exactly yes! I wish to point that out but I feel like that isn’t good enough for proof so I’ll be devoured lmao

[@followerofyeshua9210]

@Final_RPG I have a theory on The master of Masters Sora that would show how he was able to travel back in time before he was born even though the normal kingdom hearts time laws are different know quadratum is like a mirror of the kh world well Sora entered quadratum then went back in time there then re-entered the kh world in the age of fairytails. He even has more control over the power of waking as well because he was able to raise the fortellers and write the book of prophecies. He also clenches his fists uncomfortably after Xehanort says sheep pretending to be wolves because of this we know the ending of the next saga this sora actually has the X-blade because I believe its just an upgraded kingdom key so M.o.M Sora is trying to fight his younger self so that when he fights him and the fortellers they die but he reincarnates them and he will die but he probably wont reincarnate it will be a sad momment.

[@Final_RPG]

@@followerofyeshua9210 that would be fucked up

[@chaellExE]

This was the first time that I have noticed the line about the way point and what it takes: the memories (LUXU) and medium (THE GAZING EYE). Which also made ask the question that I have never seen before around this topic. Why would he need to have the other gazing eyes if LUXU is the one / one of the few who has the memories (The FORETELLERS) and is still alive? DOES THIS HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THAT STATEMENT THAT ANYONE CAN USE THEM? ALSO I just noticed this segment. As MOM mentions about time traveling with lifeboats, he's directly implying that he has been traveling with it and LUXU was his making sure that when he does again, he will have that insurance as time will change again.

[@Final_RPG]

glad you i got you to see somethings man thank you for watching!!!

[@KeybladeBrett]

I think it’d be wild if it was Walt Disney or Nomura 🤣

[@Final_RPG]

They actually were going to put Walt in timeless river but they never got a follow up so maybe in the future and Nomura would be crazy for the master of masters

[@joshsilva4006]

I think it’s a convenient theory, but I believe it’s way greater than that. Sora is our protagonist and he’s never been anything more or less. If the first Saga was about Xehanort challenging the balance of light and dark, the X Saga has consistently been suggesting that there is indeed an imbalance, and that it is Light that has too much power. At the end of KH3 Eraqus begins a new chess game where Sora by himself is battling all the foretellers - yet we’ve seen no glimpse of those characters being agents of the dark, they all fight for the light. They want to eradicate the darkness, however time and again it’s shown that both Light and Dark need to coexist for the worlds to even exist. My theory is deeply rooted in that concept. I believe that Sora in the upcoming saga must learn from Riku and perhaps even Terra (since they both utilising light and dark) to use the power of darkness to indeed maintain the cosmic balance and save the worlds from destruction. We’ve had a villain that was all about restoring the balance in Xehanort, the next logical step would be to have a villain that’s all about the dominance of light and eradication of darkness. Of course the union X story confirms there exist primordial darkness’ incarnate. Why can’t there also be primordial Light? And if that is the case, then why can’t the MoM be a primordial Light? What if this challenges that notion that Sora was right about kingdom hearts? it wasn’t darkness as Ansem suggested, nor is it Light as Sora triumphantly proclaims. Perhaps, it is both. “If Light and Darkness are both equal, then we’ll be the darkness” - Riku to Sora in the realm of Darkness after defeating Xemnas in KH2

[@lovesgibson]

Master of Masters seems like an a-hole who messes with other’s lives and causes turmoil. Definitely not light incarnate

[@soku330]

@@lovesgibsonshould be Ardyn then from ffxv remake in quadratum

[@nickelbackisokay]

Maybe with MOM being alternate Sora - Yazora (who resembles Riku slightly) is alternate Riku. He’s always had the 2 sided persona so it’s fitting with the two different eyes. Also Yazora wears the king son keys on his shoulder and that might signal that he serves alternate Sora/MOM in some way

[@Final_RPG]

I’ve always kind of thought he served him because of this in some way

[@95kad19]

the page that he ripped is between the heartless and kingdom key after the darkside I think we are getting to something here

[@Final_RPG]

Yeah I remember always looking at it they wouldn’t just show it to show it. They know of sora and there’s a reason

[@robbyjones9813]

We assume that Sora is the Master of masters. However there are other options we may not be aware of. For instance time splits could be a possibility. However, there is enough evidence to suggest that Sora being the master of masters or at least some relations is still on the table. Also the master of masters states the Darkness had physical forms in the past. This might suggest that their was an older keyblade war whose ramifications changed everything. As for the darkness that was inside Ven. I think the master of masters had planned for that one to possess Ven in order to give it a physical form as then it could be defeated, in theory anyway. Finally we must also ask what quadratum is and also place on the table that the master of masters could also be someone else we know or will meet who has simply time traveled.

[@Final_RPG]

Yeah this is kinda what I was saying in my pinned comment check it out