Kingdom Hearts’ Timeline is a Paradox

[@ProdigyxCD]

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[@Mcnerd213]

Love it, keep em coming.

[@elb1503]

Awesome video, please keep it up

[@domcarrasquillo2314]

which only means Riku is the Master of Masters. Brain is in Yozora. ephemer is in sora

[@da2317]

Nah

[@SmokingKillsBeats]

Def want more

[@declanadkins7986]

Of course it's a paradox. Paradoxes are an inherent bi-product of time travel.

[@phillemon7664]

Not in a world made of ideas where the reality isn't fundamental so it'd be the equivalent of you accidentally loading an earlier save in a videogame and somehow keeping your progress from the later save without fundamentally breaking anything

[@peterparker-wu3io]

@@phillemon7664 You mean New Game plus?

[@Night_ssbu]

Bruh this ain't undertale 💀

[@Joan-jq5ho]

Depends on what kind of logic behind time a series work. For example, within Multiverse Theory, it wouldnt create a paradox since it would just create a separate "timeline" in which the changes happen. Take for example the Android Saga and Future Trunks Timeline in DBZ, it works based in Multiverse Theory because Future Trunks future stays destroyed because his changes didnt alter his future. The issue with Time in Kingdom Hearts, be it by Nomura being Nomura or simplying trying to retcon stuff by just deciding recently how Time works, is that Kingdom Hearts has shown to have both cases. Master of Masters mention that Luxu having a book creates a Paradox, but at the same time we see Sora using the Power of Waking to travel back to the world where they failed to save the world, but ultimatly the altered future by defeating the Lich keeping the others hearts still happen and is the one we follow. As far as it goes, we dont really know how time goes by, add in that world have their own time that only starts to flow after worlds are complete. Tldr its hard to ascertain how exactly time and paradoxes in kh work bc we arent even sure how Nomura sees time working on the franchise

[@legendarycryptid2629]

​​@@Joan-jq5hoAt least with Xenahort's time travel, he got around the taboo rules by having his younger self pick up Ansem, Xemnas, Vanitas, and Riku Replica from points _before_ they died (remember that one of the key rules of time travel for KH is that when going to the past, you cannot interfere with the Stations of the Canon; specifically, you can't change their canon fates from their original games) and had their hearts (and his own since he abided by the whole leave your body behind bit) put into Replica bodies; combine that with the fact that if the time traveller is defeated, they're sent back to meet their canon fate with their memories wiped to keep the timeline stable, and thus while the five of them impart some information or get some form of closure, they won't even remember it, thus they can't change anything once they go back, so present Xehanort doesn't really break any big rules. Sora, on the other hand, utilizes the Power of Waking, a technique used to traverse hearts to reach worlds, to defy death by taking back his friends' hearts from the Lich, and ultimately ends up rewriting the ending of the "darkness prevails and light expires" prophecy, something he was actively warned about by Chirithy; as a result, once he got Kairi back through the whole "seven pieces of insurance" plot and the final Xehanort spectre is beaten, he gets banished to Quadratum. Basically, whereas Xehanort's actions kept the timeline unaltered due to sticking close to the rules, Sora has full memory of the time travel he did, and as a result, he had to pay the price... at least he's still alive, but now the issue is dealing with the Lost Masters, let alone getting home again.

[@sh4d0wfl4re]

I like to view MoM’s BoP as a record of a time spiral. MoM looks to the future, locking it into place, someone intentionally breaks MoM’s timeline, this then creates a branch, which MoM then writes into another BoP, each iteration creates a new timelocked Worldline kept separate from the prior iterations, this loop spirals infinitely until MoM finds a Worldline that holds the conditions he seeks, then MoM time travels forward into that chosen Worldline and starts a new timeloop in the future making sure it goes as they desire. Most of the Worldlines end with Darkness consuming everything, getting rid of the clutter for MoM, so long as Unreality doesn’t breach containment before becoming optimal

[@whatwecalllife7034]

This some All For One type shit 😂

[@unicornburger16]

Luxu is the traitor because he went beyond what his role was. All he was supposed to do was watch everything unfold and make sure he passed No Name down to someone. He was *not* told to body hop into those same people, ensuring the Keyblade would always come back to him one way or another.

[@PapaMidnite__]

My question is how much has Luxu done that was not prophesized? How far out of plan was he able to move? Was everything all of it for this moment(kh4) or is there more happening still unseen?

[@unicornburger16]

@@PapaMidnite__ I’d bet it’s the latter, and really interested to see if that’ll cause some tension between him and MoM or if the Master will be proud of him for all of it. Like “you went outside of what I told you to do, but look at this amazing tale that came from it”. It’s hard to tell cause the Master is so chaotic.

[@Dawn_Epiphany]

MoM told him to watch with his literal eyes and also explained that the work to be done needed many lifetimes. He didn't want Luxu to interfere to help the union leaders. He taught him how to bodyhop offscreen. Luxu needed to live to have the memories MoM needed to time travel to any point in the timeline, as MoM explained to Darkness in KHUX. The issue was Luxu interfering by helping Brain escape. And I'm sure MoM was aware of that action and planned for it. Also maybe there is more we haven't seen yet that makes him the traitor.

[@unicornburger16]

@@Dawn_Epiphany god that’s right, the endgame UX stuff is like the one thing I have trouble remembering in this series lol. I haven’t watched those scenes nearly enough.

[@Dawn_Epiphany]

@@unicornburger16 No worries, I just watched the cutscenes a lot lol. Thanks for being open to my correction :)

[@stingray3198]

Bro I just finished DDD yesterday and watched kh chi and back cover today and my mind is blown about how crazy this story has gotten… and the fact that the most important parts was tied to a mobile game lol

[@haydenwillmott4687]

3 games! The mobile game is just 1 of 3 near identical games

[@NamekianG]

​@@haydenwillmott4687Do you mean 2? Union X was just an update to Unchained X, not a separate game if that's what you mean?

[@nflbob9814]

@@NamekianGunion X, Dark Road and Missing Link

[@NamekianG]

@@nflbob9814 Those aren't near identical

[@haydenwillmott4687]

@@NamekianG perhaps? I remember hearing it was 3 games, but thinking about it I might remember finding out it was 2 versions of near identical versions of the same story

[@GUNDAMURX73]

That scene where the Master of Masters breaks the stem of that dandelion actually demonstrates way more than it might seem at first glance. If you think of time as a straight line going forward, one follows the "stem" up towards the flower... the future. But the Master of Masters allows the Keyblade War to happen, and through a select group of chosen individuals, he creates a new flower... a new timeline, by severing the current one and allowing it to be destroyed. The flower which was severed is now a parallel yet separate world, not a timeline so much as a "worldline" if you will. It's brilliant... and horrific. He allowed an entire reality to come to a cataclysmic end, just to manipulate the outcome.

[@PendBestDeck151]

He did say we can't be sentimental. Not everyone might make it back home.

[@joyhappiness]

man...this is reigniting my hype for KH4...I hope we get news in 2025 for it at least

[@haydenwillmott4687]

Gotta wait another 15 years bud

[@KewlImp]

This is all on the assumption that time isn't a fixed and closed cycle. Because if it is a closed cycle, then there is no paradox because this is how it always is. It assumes that MOM hasn't done this cycle hundreds or thousands of times finding the best resolution. Included in this is the assumption that MOM is right in the first place, and that he wrote the book. If someone else wrote the book, then MOM is just following the script. That also assumes the final passage wasn't long since past by the time Sora comes along or if it has even happened. But the most harmful assumption is that MOM is telling the truth. "Xigbar" didn't die in that scene. I will argue that one until I'm blue in the face. Unlike every other enemy during the rush to Xehanort, he "dies" off screen. And he never was a traitor, only called it. It was a tool to get the Foretellers to fight amongst themselves, this is easy to see in human psychology with every guard/prisoner experiment that has occurred, every witch hunt, and ect. MOM is playing the long game, the very long game. Since the Foretellers believe the BOP is prescriptive(it will happen), they follow it. Granted we don't know how long it really took for them to start going at each other, but they still do, why? Because they were told one of them is a traitor. And it all comes back to what they are told and they believe the BOP without a second question. Something people have pointed out to me and my cynicism is that no one has been seen lying. Except we have, Luxu lies constantly to move people into position, lies about who he is, and we don't know how many lies by omission. It why people believe Maleficent from the first game that she KNOWS Riku is the keyblade master when she had no idea. Not supposed to be its wielder, but the keyblade master. (She was really just pumping up his ego and no one has proved me wrong since the Kingdom Key choose Sora twice in that game.) (That isn't even getting into the deep lore of the first keyblade or how sentient the keyblades are.) So if one character is lying, Luxu, then other characters might be lying. Sorry for the tangent and long message.

[@saxor96]

What I see about the BoP is probably more of the self-fulfilling kind. As long as it's not "written", the future can be anything. He just has to write the correct words in a certain manner so even knowing about them doesn't change the result. Or purposefully omitting information so that information doesn't bleed into the cause and effect. So he could've basically crafted a self fulfilling prophecy by hand just by carefully saying and shutting up about what he knows.

[@HunterStiles651]

Also, Sora handily demonstrated that the Book of Prophecies is not absolute within KH3 itself. The Guardians were destined to lose, but Sora overcame that fate. But Sora is also some weird cosmic anomaly, basically the Kevin Bacon of Kingdom Hearts.

[@Dawn_Epiphany]

This is what I think. He writes what he WANTS to happen not just what he sees. This is why he wants Ephemer to have the BoP, to create the world MoM desires to fulfill his aim.

[@saxor96]

@@Dawn_Epiphany Yeah, I didn't explain it very clearly but that's also plausible. For him he sees the final result, so he writes stuff on purpose to manipulate people into fulfilling the future that he wants. For example, writing about a traitor incites conflict that wouldn't otherwise be there just to make the Keyblade War happen.

[@Dawn_Epiphany]

@@saxor96 Agreed!

[@Mcnerd213]

I am almost done playing through 3 again, steam release and all that, now more than ever, I am convinced that luxord is the player re-reincarnated. Xemnas claims he is one of the original org members chosen for his keyblade of the past, “you play the game quite well” being his defeat line in 2, his lines to vexen in 3, the wild card, and a few other things.

[@MrPivotRPG]

Which player? Cause if you mean the one from Chi, then you'd be wrong since it's confirmed to be Xehanort who was the reincarnated player

[@Mcnerd213]

@@MrPivotRPG go play dark road

[@Mcnerd213]

@@MrPivotRPG I don’t blame you fir being confused about this, the scenes are kinda confusing. The player of the x saga reincarnates into the player of missing link, who grows up to be the old person who raises xehanort, xehanort knows the x kids from his dreams, that he got because xehanort’s heart connected to the players. That would be like saying “sora is ventus.” Which would actually have more merit because ventus actually completely gave his heart to sora, where the players heart just tuched xehanort.

[@Vanity0666]

This is actively explained in Chain of Memories when Young Xehanort time travels forward into the future to meet up with Xigbar, as well as Dark Riku/Riku Replica returning from the past in 3

[@noahdean9685]

I love that cut with the part 2 the victims luxu AKA xigbar

[@magicvalgirl]

The characters within both sides of reality have a huge war ahead if they want to survive and bring an end to darkness once and for all, or lime you said, delay it for another long time. As long as hope drives them, no matter how much one suffers, it'll be worth it... I hope. This is perhaps your greatest video yet! I really liked it!

[@SonnyNovus]

Thumbnail alone is saucy, but the video itself had really compelling scripting and transitions. A great summary of Luxu's internal dialogue and angst. The most tragic character in the series, bar none. 👌

[@ProdigyxCD]

Thank you so much!! You were genuinely a big inspiration for the "Storytelling" type of video this turned out to be, so the nice words mean SOO MUCH too me that you enjoyed it

[@kuricosmos]

Mmm I love the narration and transitions for this. Always a pleasure (vote for more). I'm also seeing how Versus XIII connects with that light of expiring souls remark much better.

[@Iamacultest]

We need more Luxu appreciation.

[@Salikino]

Well this raises a lot of possibilities

[@WarriorKid_77]

I'm so glad you finally released this video, I can see how much work you put into it. But it is making me question luxus motives even more, like pre role luxu was the kinda of guy who wouldn't ever want to hurt anyone, and yet it seems after all those lifetimes he became distant from who he once was, or was that all a facade?

[@chaellExE]

I am watching this and I just realize, the traitor in Luxu's titile isn't due to him betraying the master, but all others around him for his cause. 'Cause AVA is the betrayer of the masters will. Choosing of her own, instead of the end of what the master initially told her to do.

[@captaindystopia]

the master of masters didnt just know about the book, but he also knew luxu is the traitor, which means he himself allready knows, which would make the book unnecessary, also according to time travel rules in kh, they have to do what their past selves did, which doesnt seem to be the case then with mom, which makes him way more interesting then he allready is... also mom allready seem to know about quadratum. kinda wild.

[@skylerolson7230]

What’s your thoughts on Luxu being half xenanort

[@captaindystopia]

after rewatching other people play kh3 that were new to the franchise and taking their questions seriously i am under the impression that xehanort and even vanitas know way more then we think, i think its shown multiple times too, that xehanort knows about quadratum and luxu stating that he is half xehanort even confirms my theory that we will most likely see more of them in the future - definetly. they even brought xion back... and i also have the theory that xehanort not necessarily "wanted" but certainly planned for sora to win. i mean they often say that sora is a "sheep" that he makes the "ultimate sacrifice" and right after young xehanort says "his time in this world is..." the old xehanort says "i planned for every eventuality" and when you think about it, all keyblade wielders are united rn, xehanort may not saved his friends, but he certainly ensured that all of the heroes are united and existing in the same time, in the same realm, except sora, who will most likely return becouse its said something like that he finds home or whatever... i'm pretty sure luxu existing means xehanort can time hop there atleast or simply just get reincarnated.

[@lucapeyrefitte6899]

I want him to get a new body that looks like his original one, it would be interesting and cool honestly

[@akapotatobrad]

My theory is that the Master is Mr. H from TWEWY. Unreality, as Ansem puts it, is the UG. This means that at some point in the distant past the Master took part in his own Reapers Game.

[@ExiledOne]

I’m still trying to figure out if in KH we’re still in the dream simulation or not

[@mmileymiley15]

I recently rewatched terminator 2 with some friends and we got into a debate about whether or not the time travel makes any sense, the bootstrap you described in the beginning is John Connor sending Kyle Reese back in time and Kyle then fathering John in the past. Just thought that was interesting lol

[@neomishagi]

4:13 jumpscare

[@megafirebird22]

If Luxu is the traitor on purpose and the reunion is the end of the journey for MoM's plan to destroy the darkness, while Luxu being the only force of darkness left. Doesn't it sound like the traitor is meant to be a beacon trapping all big darknesses so that the lost masters who are all masters of light can defeat the darkness once and for all? It's just an idea/theory I came up, but knowing that the keyblade graveyard is an empty world where the only possible vessels of darkness were either destroyed or transformed into a vessel of light. This means that the 13 darknesses have left their vessels to survive and have nowhere else to go except for Luxu who faked his death. And now the lost masters can finish him of with the box being the secret weapon since nobody knows what's inside of it or what the purpose of the box is. It's just weird that we didn't see anything of the reunion if it would just be a reunion between them. We saw the reunion of everyone else through the credits. So my guess is that the Lost masters will have a fight against luxu or with luxu against the darknessess.

[@Another14-]

Yen Sid sent mickey to Scala, so is Scala still in their current time? Or is mickey going to the past to get there ?

[@kristophermichaud4467]

I like to imagine time as a tunnel that curves out like a cornucopia, and that the paradox is where that curve circles back into the curve, further cementing the curve in the first 'time'. It may sound like gibberish to you, but not to me, but I figured I'd ask if anyone feels similar about this? I know that im probably far off, but i feel that this could be a basic metaphor for how time flows through space?

[@nemesi55]

I think the visualization you’re looking for is a Klein bottle, perhaps? A bottle whose spout loops around, intersects with itself and opens back up at its bottom.

[@Phyrior]

Forgive the snark, but... Of course it's a time paradox. Welcome to Final Fantasy.

[@94hourzzz66]

True, even ff1 had this

[@VincenzoVelasco]

beautiful video! forever my favorite KH channel

[@maidenless_tarnished]

Excellent video! Gotta work on those articles though bro lol. Use 'an' before words with vowel sounds. One example from the video near the end you say 'a opportunity' it should be 'an opportunity'. But that isn't the only time an article was misused during the video

[@erichermann1226]

It involves time travel. You're going to find a paradox or two.

[@Oblivion420]

I have a feeling that Ava will end up in Quadratum. Just a simple thought due to Strelitzia being there.

[@alecsmith8462]

I don't know what it is man, but something about your voice just MAKES this video. It's not even like you have a MatPat type of voice (I mean in no offense btw) but something about the way you sound when you talk makes the video more ominous and almost... scary... and I love it lol.

[@oaktutor1154]

Everyone who messed with fate disappeared. Interesting

[@MastaGambit]

How did Strelitzia mess with fate? It's been a long time since UX and I honestly dont remember why she was killed

[@nathantaylor1618]

seeing what luxu did in the future so far makes it odd that M.O.M said " Congrats ya did a good job".

[@bbro43]

So you got me thinking now that the Apprentice with MoM in Quadratum is not Luxu but Ava

[@Dawn_Epiphany]

Always appreciate content that focuses on Luxu! Nice video.

[@thenobody7509]

I like to think MoM comes from a other reality. A mirror if you would to the one we know. Similar perhaps even to unreality and when he jumped into the KH reality. Similar to time travel there needed to be a version of him in that universe. Think how Rex confuses sora and yozora because yozora is probably a version of sora. Luxu is a version of MoM not the same person but a version of them that is and isnt them

[@nattylight9494]

KH hype is returning. Somethings around the corner

[@TheGoodWitchLuz06]

This is interesting didn’t expect the video to be a story like video

[@truthspreader1996]

Man oh man is Kingdom Hearts confusing😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫 And it doesn't help that some of your story is on those mobile games😢

[@kdatalbi]

top tier video thank you bro. i definitely want more story videos.

[@vadandrumist1670]

I would not say they have to escape than a paradox. After all, the paradox has its resolution point not contingent on resolving any particular repetition, but simply sending the keyblade back in time just once to confirm it. Even the Keyblade War is not a true recurrence, as it is not a single war played out loopingly but several different wars along a single timeline.

[@nemesi55]

I feel like the multiple Keyblade Wars would be a lot less confusing lorewise if they were given distinct names (i.e. in real life we have World War I, and World War II). It’s just a recurring cycle of violence that breaks out from time to time in response to the tension between light and darkness, but the scale differs wildly-the most ancient might have spanned worlds, but the most recent with Xehanort was a war between a little under 30 people or so.

[@vadandrumist1670]

@@nemesi55 The only problem I have with that is calling it a recurring cycle of violence. It just implies something more specific than there already is. If the last "Keyblade War" had barely any people, and most of them aren't even keyblade wielders, then where do you draw the line? Was BBS a Keyblade War? Was KH1 for the one time you fight Riku wielding the keyblade of heart? Does *any* violence count as part if the "recurring cycle of violence"? It just seems like too broad a net since the Union Keyblade War doesn't even seem to involve the X-Blade, so that can't even be called the qualifier.

[@nemesi55]

@@vadandrumist1670 Yeah, that’s fair. I think of it that way mostly because it seems like it’s the nature of light and darkness themselves as traditionally interpreted by Keyblade warriors that tends to incite these sorts of conflicts. The Unions started warring because they suspected one another of treachery (in the sense of harboring Darkness), Light/Lux became coveted, and this violence erupted over what really boils down to this ontological struggle coupled with the human capacity for poor judgment just spiraling way out of control. There’s a kind of extremist streak that comes from this and gets passed down to people like Eraqus and Xehanort, and that’s how you get BBS, which I’d argue was at least an *attempt* on Xehanort’s part at inciting another Keyblade War-or a conflict that acts as a microcosm of it. Same with KH3’s clash of light and darkness. 7 vs 13 people isn’t exactly enough to realistically call it a “war”, but that’s what Xehanort calls it, so that’s what we call it. In terms of what drives it, it’s a similar theme of a treacherous seeker of darkness instigating a senseless conflict for the sake of “balancing out” the World. I guess it’s actually kind of a vague, confusing and not terribly useful term with the way it gets used in the series, but at least for me I largely think of the Union era Keyblade Wars that left behind a shit ton of fallen wielders’ blades stuck into the battlefield as the classic “Keyblade War”. Everything from BBS onward is less a literal war and more a violent, more personal-scale conflict that acts as a reflection of that original war. Like how in real life, a large-scale war might officially end, but there might be skirmishes between smaller forces who still harbor the ideals of the warring sides for years after the fact.

[@vadandrumist1670]

@@nemesi55 Out of curiosity, do you think that the "traditional interpretation" is wrong? I get that light/darkness is talked about as being important for a balance, but the problem is the story itself doesn't present that. "Light" seems to be a neutral state compared to how darkness draws in heartless and eventually transforms the individual into a heartless...supposedly, because I don't think we've ever seen that happen non-artifically. Ventus shows that a person can live without Darkness and still feel negative emotions, and Union shows that an individual's darkness does not have to even be determined by their emotional state (vindicating Terra I'd say). The Realm of Darkness is actively malicious in how it torments Aqua, and the only positive examples of creatures of darkness are the mushrooms and flan which are never explained or acknowledged. I do not see the correlation to the Union's Keyblade War and Eraqus' extremism. I wouldn't even say that Eraqus was particularly extreme and that deciding to attack Ventus was out-of-character. After all, he trusted Xehanort despite what happened and was willing to take care of Ventus, and even after seeing Terra's darkness allowed him the chance to grow unsupervised. Even disregarding that, Eraqus was acting out of fear of the Keyblade War rather than puritan anti-darkness, which are different circumstances. As for Xehanort, there is little to say since his motivations flip from the X-blade being the means to the Keyblade War to the Keyblade War being the means to the X-blade. The whole thing in KH3 is a mess, it really should have just been that when the X-blade broke in BBS it was those shards were the 13/7, and it was gathering those specifically that would recreate the X-blade. The KH3 X-blade isn't even composed of 20 pieces and has a ratio of 12/1 with most coming from people who don't even have keyblades at the time. I mean, sure, but in that case we haven't seen even a full cycle yet. If using the war analogy, once all of that dies down there should be another build-up of keyblade wielders that leads into another war. There is some build-up currently, but not significantly enough for anything that would be comparable to before. While the Dandelions will grant those numbers I'm not sure if it would be fair to call it any sort of natural or inevitable cycle when the vast majority of participants are from the previous one and bringing all their old hangups which lead to said previous war.

[@nemesi55]

@@vadandrumist1670 Honestly I see KH as being more of an overtly fantasy Star Wars, where the Light and Dark sides are kind of more aligned with Ontological Good and Evil even though the writing often casts them in shades of grey. (Really all KH is sort of missing at this point is its own version of the Sith to the Keyblade wielders’ Jedi. Xehanort definitely counts but there’s not really like an established, recurring faction of Darkness Users the way there is with the Light.) Darkness is this weird mix though where it’s sort of simultaneously both People’s Personal Mundane Negative Emotions, which aren’t actually inherently evil or even bad, because you can certainly apply negative emotions like anger, sadness etc. in a positive and constructive manner… but then also “Darkness” is an eldritch force which actively corrupts and destroys everything it comes into contact with, too. I guess there’s levels to it? Like some kind of nebulous threshold at which you surpass the normal acceptable level of darkness in a heart or ambiently in an area and that’s when you start seeing the Horrors (When it comes to the Light really I think the issue there is largely out of universe in the sense that the Light tends to be associated with the Disney worlds and characters and especially mascots, and so we can’t have Light being portrayed as this less-than-wholesome thing when it’s the IP holder’s characters on the line. :p Although KH has definitely TRIED to push the angle of “Light as extremism” from time to time, it’s never going to be shown as nefarious as the darkness IMO.) It feels like it’s kind of vibes based a lot of the time, basically.

[@merifumanal3104]

My favorite video from now of you.Congratulation

[@94hourzzz66]

I thought Luxu’s betrayal was the fact that he directly got involved with the dandelions by taking Brain’s body, when the Master had explicitly told him not to do so? The master told him to watch from afar, not get his hands dirty, and eventually pass his keyblade to one of the dandelions. He never told him to body hop

[@Dawn_Epiphany]

In KHUX MoM tells Darkness he needs Luxu's memories so MoM has memories at any point he travels along the timeline. This requires Luxu to keep living. He also tells Luxu their goal needs multiple lifetimes, and for Luxu to watch events with his own eyes. We just didn't see the teaching onscreen.

[@johanstenfelt1206]

Hm, how very interesting, i guess we’ll see what comes next.

[@skylerolson7230]

What’s your thought on the fact Luxu is half xenanort?

[@johanstenfelt1206]

@@skylerolson7230 hm, a very intriguing point.

[@Alfreddottide2]

How on earth, right, can Xigbar exist? He is the nobody of someone whom heart has been possessed by another heart. In other words, when Braigs heart gets stabbed and his body separated by his heartless, where does Luxus heart go?

[@snailmail2000]

I'm gonna laugh or be disappointed if the MoM is a grown and crazed Sora

[@shiyu_oddsekai]

is the MoM future luxu ? (he's calling luxu, the traitor, and later the mom says that he's planning to the end of light)

[@KolomerEntertainment]

Really good edit

[@gowary]

It isn't a loop... it's a SPIRAL!!! 🤣

[@datagoose2931]

Yo now that Marvel could be canon maybe we’ll get Cable and Bishop 🤘

[@Serge_Jackson]

Did sora time traveling break the paradox? When he went to change everything and get kairi back

[@Vanity0666]

Nope, it did alter the natural events of the world causing him to be erased from the world record however. Sora put the forces of life and death out of balance, the same exact thing happens in FF13 when Lightning is erased after Etro saves the main cast from Cocoon collapsing down on Pulse.

[@Numba003]

This video was a lot of fun! Thank you for this. I would definitely be interested in more story videos in the future. God be with you out there, everybody. ✝️ :)

[@mindbullets22480]

Seriously though, fuck Master Xehanort.

[@ShadowMoon96]

Luxu the body snatcher the traitor

[@v.0scar]

all worlds begin in darkness and all so end.

[@v.0scar]

9:25 where was this written again?

[@jonathanreyes3249]

luxu going about time nearly over 2000 years giving to the point that the master of master was born when the earth was made the true hades the grim reaper the god of death the spirit that gain control of the corpse of abel

[@danteshollowedgrounds]

Yes, Endless.

[@SirMixatron11]

What if the master of masters is alternate sora?

[@metalfightxiggy]

im saying it here and now sora is the master of masters

[@skylerolson7230]

I feel like people forget that Luxu is half xenanort like I never hear anyone bring it up. So he’s only half luxu.

[@skylerolson7230]

Like we need a video of some therory on that

[@skylerolson7230]

I wonder if xenanort knew he was gonna loose and put part of himself in Luxu so he could survive to see the true key blade war

[@PendBestDeck151]

He's not "half" Luxu. He's full Luxu with a piece of Xehanort inside him. Was Sora half or 1/3 with all the hearts inside him?

[@PendBestDeck151]

​​@@skylerolson7230Xehanort put pieces of himself in everyone to guarantee they'd be strong enough to fulfill the darkness requirement needed for the kingdom hearts rituals. Like how Riku isn't affected by darkness anymore. In Re Mind, the Master told Xehanort he wouldn't lost himself to darkness but control instead. Because even tho he failed, he was destined to do all of that. Sora was just also destined to go further. In KH2, at the end of the game, Sora and Riku are stuck on the dark margin beach and said the realm of light is safe, we can be the darkness. Watching over it. Then BOOM, the next main game was Birth my Sleep. Xehanorts backstory. In Dark Road, we learn Xehanort knew of the 13 darknesses. So is a gander he put his heart in others so those darknesses couldn't take over the organization while trying to rescue Kingdom hearts from darkness and remake the world in a balanced state. KH had been lost to darkness since the Master of Masters childhood. The left over piece in Luxu is a plot device. For Young Xehanort to return. We were shown art of YX in Quadratum. People researched that to a park in Tokyo. So that kh4 trailer, COULD be MoM and YX.

[@skylerolson7230]

@@PendBestDeck151 he said and quote “I’m already half xenanort “

[@aidenwrath1402]

I loved KH1 and 2 (not so much CoM) and those stories were very understandable, but seeing how drastically BBS complicated things (for the worst), I kinda separate the franchise from 1 and 2 cuz I don’t like the new story at all

[@reduchiha8172]

Sora is the master of masters...The end.

[@PendBestDeck151]

Terrible.

[@nemesi55]

This would genuinely be so fucked up but it is one of my greatest fears given how silly and goofy the MoM is. I don’t want the baby boy to have a bad end timeline ):

[@goblin7372]

Let's hope king hearts 4 is not a big flame pile of crap like kh3

[@michaelzimmer2118]

What else is new

[@ansemthetrueseekerofdarkne2730]

... Three new masters.. of a new era long after... Rainer Kingston... Carmella Sycamore.. Hirako Hyuga.. faunus... shinobi... Kamen Rider X... Power Rangers X-Force... Kings and queens... Bloodless... Bat, Phoenix, Cerebus, Leviathan... Four Hellion Beasts... Bijuu & Jinchuuriki... Miqo'te... Lalafell... Au Ra.... Many races... Cetralon... A World Of Many Worlds... Maverick City... Tenebrae Imperium... This World is for those Stranded beyond..... The Wastelands... Drawing of the three... World of Worlds... Long after the child of Destiny's tale... and his friends... Go Forth and Gather More Hearts... The Chronicles of Kingdom Hearts, anew.....

[@liammccbyrne4184]

from what I gather the plot of KH was always going to simple and clean until the rest of Square Enix told Nomura he wasn't going to get his Versus XIII... and he take that very well.

[@thekittenfreakify]

Predestination assumes causality doesn't exist. That is a mistake. Predestination cannot exist when causality exists. at best it can use causality to steer things

[@OpticalSorcerer]

The biggest issue with the series is how confusing it can be. It's very exhausting for every installment to be like "you only knew some of the story"/"What you thought was true wasn't actually true," such as Terra-Nort, Xion, unnamed friend of Lea and Isa, Saix's goals eithin O13, "Braig" pulling the strings, OG O13 being manipulated into believing they didn't have hearts, etc.

[@Dead_Hitori]

Other than BBS, KH1, and KH2. KH story is trash

[@ProdigyxCD]

I don't remember asking

[@Dead_Hitori]

@@ProdigyxCD you did when you made the video

[@joesocrazee]

Who knows...Sora could be Luxu's nobody. Idk it was just a thought floating around my head

[@Colipopkola]

Yes please more story videos! This was such a good short recap of what's going on and it really was nice to revisit! I'm still loving the mystery of if MoM is darkness tricking the light or as you said a corrupted light or if he's one of the lights truly trying to help. I'm excited to see where this story ends up going. We've been at it so long! 😂😅😊