Kingdom of Majapahit - Lies - Extra History

[@extrahistory]

We're going to try airing Lies after our one-off episodes so that the writers have more time to see questions/comments from the last episode. Let us know if this is 👍 or 👎 Recommended reading: The Indianized States of Southeast Asia (G. Cœdès) 10:13 - You might be mad about Matt's mispronounciations, but at least he didn't get a chance to butcher this particular royal name 19:21 - What's next on Extra History? 20:42 - Walpole Connection

[@ankush-kl2nf]

nice

[@ironclad184]

2 days ago video came out 10 minutes ago?

[@LordDragon1965]

@@ironclad184 I think that the Patrons get first access

[@atheistjokeboy6939]

they release the video to the patrons first

[@smalltime0]

it is a good idea, especially since I presume a few people go back and watch the entire series after it is finished.

[@InspectHistory]

Thanks for creating Majapahit Episodes, it's very amazing episodes especially for us (Indonesian) We're looking forward to see your episode about Viking, Chinese Revolutions, Potatoes, and the others :)

[@fikriimaduddin1958]

Inspect History , Potato refer to the great famine in ireland causing a big scale migration from ireland to america. thats why irish became the dominant people in USA today.

[@AryaWibu]

Eh ketemu lagi inspect history

[@henrybricks2953]

@@AryaWibunonton juga ya??? Kabar soviet gimana?

[@AryaWibu]

@@henrybricks2953 lebih baik daripada Soviet yang dulu

[@InspectHistory]

@Fikri Imaduddin Yup, I know that .. here in my channel we are currently making episode about Fritz Haber, A Jewish Scientist from Germany, who created synthetic fertilizer. He's the one who help humanity, prevent another "Great Irish Famine" again. Maybe you're interesting with that topics? :)

[@GigawingsVideo]

Regarding: Ken Arok: This guy is both iconic and problematic at the same time. For some Javanese he's referred as symbol of success while some Javanese dislike him because he's pretty much a criminal and bully and bad role model. Bubat War: This is varied between lots of Javanese. Lots of younger generations tend to ignore the old feud. But some still bring grudge from their parents. But it's getting less due to era of information and multiculturalism in bigger cities. My mom still told me never marry a Sundanese girl. Heh. Indonesia's Independence declaration: Thank you for fixing it to 1945. Took a lot of blood, sweat and anger to defend that independence. We don't burn an entire city for nothing.

[@ExcelonTheFourthAvalonHeirs]

With one? Bandung or Surabaya?

[@alexanderchristopher6237]

@@ExcelonTheFourthAvalonHeirs Bandung lautan api.

[@GigawingsVideo]

Bandung. We even have a song about it.

[@reloadtv4970]

Excelon The 4th Avalon Heirs bandung lautan api ( sea of fire) Surabaya is the city of heroes,

[@majestictroll6745]

Keknya kebalik, justru pria jawa bagus menikah dengan wanita sunda.

[@pradiptobhagaskoro7101]

I just want to thank you for making such interesting videos about javanese kingdoms. Nobody in Indonesia is care enough to make such fun learning video about their history. The minor mistakes in those video are understandable, but they still are interesting key point for those who wants to learn more.

[@matthewaccount]

Amen

[@bebekdragon7604]

5:19 the story is actually more interesting than that. Ken Arok was one of Tunggul Ametung's(a state leader) guard, while being a guard he witness the beauty of Ken Dedes the state leader's wife and admire her. Oneday he saw Ken Dedes bathing and saw her thighs shinning so he told his guru about that, then the guru told him that she is sri nariswari and she will be the mother of kings (meaning that her husband will be king) so Ken Arok got more interested in her. Meanwhile Tunggul Ametung was cursed man long time ago he once visiting a village and saw a very beautiful girl(Ken Dedes) so he then propose her, but she said that he must wait until her father come and decide. But Tunggul Ametung couldnt wait so he kidnap het, after her father went home he then realize that she wasn't home so he got angry and cursed who ever kidnap his daughter will be dead because his daughter's beauty. Ken Arok then searching for his Kris and the Mpu(kris maker) said that it'll 1 year to make that kris. But 5 months latter Ken Arok came and forced to take that kris and killes the Mpu, but before he died he cursed the kris that it'll bring the death of Ken Arok and his 7 descendants. He later give the kris to his fellow guard then his friend show of the new kris to every guard and make drunken party after every was drunk Ken Arok then steal the kris, slip to Tunggul Ametung's room and killed him and return the kris to his friend. Say after that his friend got executed and he get elected to be the new state leader. So it's happened Tunggul Ametung's death was because Ken Dedes' beauty. Months after that the brahmana(monks) of the Kadiri (the kingdom) had dispute to king kertajaya of kadiri so they decided to asking for protection to Tumapel the state of Ken Arok. Then Ken Arok declare he is king of Tumapel an independence kingdom from Kadiri and declare a war with Kadiri. But Kertajaya didn't get scared so he then accept the war and lost. And then Ken Arok would be the new king of Java.

[@bebekdragon7604]

I'm sorry for my bad English So if you find any gramatical error let me know :)

[@syahrezadifachri5121]

To put it simply, the tale of Ken Arok is Javanese Game of Thrones

[@reggiekoestoer1511]

Thanks, your comment is gold. CMIIW but I also remember something like Ken Arok was murdered by a descendant of the king he killed whom in turn was also killed by Ken Arok's descendant whom was also killed by a descendant from the other side as well and so on for several generations....hence the Mpu's curse on the Kris kinda got fulfilled as well. Awesome story from my ancestry wkwkwkwkwk (mandatory Indonesian internet laugh)

[@adityapriambudi5983]

Syahreza Difachri correct!

[@alexanderchristopher6237]

@@reggiekoestoer1511 most of Singahasari monarchs are killed by Mpu Gandring's curse in the Kris. It was only at reign of Kertanegara that it stopped. Kertanegara is the king that the Mongol Khan tried to kill, but didn't, because Jayakatwang killed him first.

[@dwirandypradhika6752]

Well, since you mentioned it. I would suggest doing a series on Indonesian independence in the future, it kinda triggered this chain of conflicts all over south-east asia. And you'll get to see the connection between the fall of Constantinople, medieval Indonesia, europian age of exploration, colonialism, AND WWII. -I'm not a patron, but a suggestion can't hurt.

[@alejndraalmirowitsch4897]

as an indonesian, i really appreciate your effort toward history of majapahit. i have to say it is ok to have some error here in there. you re better than most teachers here honestly. thank you

[@christophorusbrian7760]

I'm Indonesian and yet I learn more from this video and the series than our history lesson at school...

[@emilynaima967]

so trueeee

[@Anindyatejo]

So true. The thing about history lessons in Indonesia school is that they only tell important dates, nothing more. So boring

[@Nicolas-ph2og]

Indonesia doesn't teach history that much

[@lsantomal]

So true!!!!

[@bungurtube7048]

You just lazy ass...

[@lucidity1]

Sambal is amazing, I put it in everything from Sharma's to Taco's. oh and so is ketjap by the way. if you are lazy, dice 1 union, stir-fry it int a wok (or frying pan) add diced chicken and sambal, make sure the chicken is baked thoroughly before adding 2 diced bell pepers(paprika's) and sliced mushrooms and some ketjap. bake for 2 more minutes and serve with rice. offer Krupuk and sate(satay)-sauce as additives. this is not Indonesian, just a lazy dutch guys Idea of an easy and tasty meal. (I would eat this with sweet chili sauce when I was a student a lot)

[@voiceblue2017]

You know what our stomach is craving as Indonesian. Life is not complete without sambal and krupuk

[@revimfadli4666]

Which union? Can I substitute the European one for the recipe?

[@hengkynt2649]

kamu harus coba sambal buatan saya, kamu pasti ketagihan (you should try my homemade sambal, you must be addicted:)

[@memegumin]

We Indonesian are still hungry if we don't eat Rice based food

[@suryokai47]

@@memegumin Totally true v::v

[@epg96]

There's a popular theory in Indonesia why Srivijaya or Majapahit or Indonesian sultanates never annexed Australia since it only had desserts and Nusantaran people couldn't live in desserts since we lived in tropical areas for many centuries, and they couldn't built rice fields since almost every lands were dessert, so many Indonesian kingdoms like srivijaya, majapahit, or sultanates ignored Australia but Australia used to be Indonesian fishermen's favorite fishing spot, even these fishermen introduced the aboriginals about Old Malay language (the ancestor of Indonesian language), diplomacy, foreign trade. No wonder many Indonesian words can be found in Aussie aboriginal language, the relationship between Indonesian fishermen & Aussie aboriginals were ended after Europeans migrated to there, Britsh colonial authorities decided to deported all Indonesian fishermen back to Makassar in 1900s

[@quicksilvermarvel6392]

"Popular theory" ? Really ?

[@mjbull5156]

Australia, Doon, dessert continent...

[@Cutie_Oni]

No, its because of emus, john cena animals, and danger noodles that protected the continent

[@filipusandikawicaksana6822]

@@quicksilvermarvel6392 Well, there's some truth to his words, just not to that extent, probably... Indonesians DID reach Arnhem Land (in Northern Australia) by the 1700s, if I'm not mistaken (Look up Macassan Contact with Australia) but they were only fishermen who tried to fish sea cucumbers which are in great demand by the Chinese. They did not, however, introduced their language and culture there, just a few loanwords from a Malay Creole (Malay is a widespread trade language), such as rupiah for money. By the sheer fact that people from Indonesia DID colonize Madagascar even before Bantu Africans did, it is certainly still in the realm of possibility that Indonesians reached Australia far before Europeans did.

[@epg96]

@@Cutie_Oni tinggal di aussie y?

[@aswindafry]

As an Indonesian, your Majapahit episodes really inspired me.

[@OwinBlazer]

*About Jago-> yeah. It's using J as in Jet. It literally translates to Great/Punk/Mighty *About Java-> I take it as an english translation of Jawa. Growing up here, it's always been Jawa for me, but I know people use Java (Javascript, etc.)

[@7636kei]

The Java progamming language (and all its derivatives) have never had anything to do with the island of Java, so~ ^^;

[@malikfaisal416]

@@7636kei I believe it's from Java coffee imported from Java Island. Hence the logo

[@orenrune]

Im already so happy to know that Polynesian and us (Indonesian) were related, the songs that were singed, the whole culture of way-finder, even the boat, the buildings, the clothes, and even the people looked just like ours!! But when you mention that they actually our DESCENDANT, that confirms my guts feelings that it is reflecting a lot of our culture lol. Not to mention one of our common songs are Nenek Moyangku Seorang Pelaut translated means My Ancestor Is A Sailor

[@safuwanfauzi5014]

As Malaysian, we share with Brunei too, Visaya also have Sriwijayan blood

[@jamiirali1]

How did the size difference occur? Polynesians are extremely large in comparison to Indonesians.

[@randomguy1576]

@@jamiirali1 the thing is polynesians are not indonesians' ancestors and indonesians are not polynesians' ancestors. They are related as they both speak austronesian languages and have common ancestors and genes. The size difference is still a mystery tho. Some theories said that polynesians are bigger in size (compared to any austronesian groups like maritime southeast asians, micronesians, melanesians) because of their different diet.

[@dhyanahandizar6383]

another mind-blowing proof that indonesian and polynesian were related is the megalith artifacts that are found in Lore Lindu National Park, Sulawesi Tengah and the artifacts that are found in Easter Island. Both are resembling each other

[@mennit4959]

Lol

[@FeverAmbone105]

I'm glad ya guys covering Majapahit, I wish y'all make another southeast Asian kingdom episodes (Khmer, Champa, Siam, Burma, etc), cuz southeast asian is a bit underrated, compare to another asian history

[@nathanr.9507]

Kingdom of Sarawak, and Siamese Kingdoms are really interesting

[@RegstarRogstar]

up up up

[@halahala2886]

This! Im really interested in Champa because my grandmother said that my ancestors are Champa's nobles that ran away from a war and came to Riau archipelago IM WAITING FOR CHAMPA!

[@Dina-zw3yg]

yeah!! i hope they'll be covering about Kedah Tua Malay kingdom too. it's one of the oldest monarchy in the world but it's so underrated and not many knew about this

[@pavan923]

I know this isn't from southeast Asia but cholas also deserve some attention, after all they took over the entire island of Sumatra from South india

[@BookMattic]

Hey there! I’m from the US but living in Indonesia. Surabaya to be exact. This is extremely interesting to me. I bet you many Indonesians don’t even know about this! I’ll have to listen to your other episodes. Let’s do this.

[@BookMattic]

@Random eurasians dude wow, this was two years ago! I'm still in Surabaya 😊

[@Alaplaya9]

I think the abstinence from spice refers to the king's curtailing of the cinnamon challenge, which was rampant at the time.

[@markjosephbacho5652]

What's the cinnamon challenge about?

[@filipusandikawicaksana6822]

Aww my comments got mentioned 🙈🙈 Thank you very much! 14:30 Also, leopards do exist natively in Java, and they would've made more sense pulling those chariots since they are smaller than any other types of leopards, being the size of a large dog.

[@h.d.1354]

For leopard thing, javanese - sundanese - malay sometimes confuse lion, leopard, and tiger, they call it "macan" for 3 of them, they even called black leopard "macan kumbang" or "beetle leopard" because beetle is often found in black. But I think its more of tiger than leopard who pull that carriage because tiger have roles in old javanese culture. And btw Island of Java have its own indigenous leopard and tiger, so I dont think they imported leopard, but unfortunately javan tiger got extinct because of massive hunting.

[@sibadusibadu5015]

Ken Arok story as a cunning assassin used to be delivered by historical teacher at school in Indonesia in a witty and funny story. The official whom Ken Arok gave his new dagger (keris) has a funny name 'kebo ijo', means green buffalo. Kebo Ijo parade his new dagger around the town with no shame, thus everyone knew it was his when the assassination take place.

[@yogieananda9324]

I am from Indonesia. thank you sir for discussing the history of Majapahit...

[@suryokai47]

KEN AROK FOR PRESIDENT

[@default9168]

Asal mana bang

[@yogieananda9324]

@@default9168 Banyuwangi mas

[@default9168]

Saya dari cikarang bang

[@gilgameshtheimmortal7381]

Sy ngawi

[@mbahregavlog3698]

Little bit correction. The cursed of kris mPu gandring(you mention it as dagger) was killed 7 life, not 7 generation. Read again pararaton in kawi or indonesian. I've read many times, but i never find words that mention that kris kill 7 generation of ken arok.

[@adityapriambudi5983]

True. But it was almost always mentioned that way in the folklores. So probably it was his source since he mentioned that he visited Indonesia before.

[@LAdiartos]

The keris is waiting for its 7th victim... The last descendant of the kingdom... He's here today, walking amongst us, not knowing the horror that seeks him... One day, the dagger and its victim will meet, and Indonesia will never be the same again... (Just an idea for a NETFLIX Show)

[@prongs82]

It was taken from the foklore. The victim is Ken Arok Anusapati Tohjaya That's 2 generation

[@RegstarRogstar]

they broke the curse at the end tho right

[@silvercyber19]

Kuroi Karasu some tales said the last victim was Kertanegara. Jayakatwang stabbed him with keris mpu gandring. Ranggawuni (anusapati's son) and Mahisa Campaka (ken arok's grandson) also said to be killed with Mpu Gandring.

[@DBT1007]

leopards exists in java. tiger too. and some wild cat too but not with lion

[@abovenkisla9391]

14:30 That's true actually. There is native leopard species even by now that they critically endangered and only 250 left in the wild

[@themisterier]

I'm javanese and grown up just an hour next to Majapahit capital used to be. In fact i was born in their archenemy capital, Daha or Kediri, in which the Mongol defeated bcoz of Raden Wijaya's deception.. it's old capital still has their ancient vibess tho, and people here do remember all the history and it's still being teached in elementary schools

[@silvercyber19]

Could you maybe confused by Kertanegara and Kertajaya? Because the evil king who liked to drink and done a lot of evil was Kertajaya, the 7th King of Kediri whom Ken Arok murdered. He proclaimed himself as God, murdered a lot of Hindu Buddhist priests when they refused to acknowledge him as God. The remaining priests then asked Ken Arok help to rebel and dethroned this king. And the first 'ruler' killed by Ken Arok with the 'dagger' was tunggul ametung (he was a chief of village, not a king). Tunggul ametung dead, ken arok became chief of village, married Tunggul Ametung Widow, the famous beauty Ken Dedes. Then the priests came to ask his help, he killed the king, Kertajaya, and became the first king of Singhasari.

[@teukuhariss.1818]

For your next episodes, I wanna see you make a series about the Communist Uprising in Indonesia in '65. There's still some misconceptions and confusions about that incident and I wanna see you explain that. Keep posting!

[@maudyyulia1089]

I second this!!!!! Better don't use the New Order perspective, tho!

[@jinbotol6243]

@@maudyyulia1089 dia malaysia

[@yantiramadhaty1753]

13:28 Yup! My mother is a Sundanese and she always tells me never to believe in Javanese men. Geez, that was hundreds of years ago

[@aryffkurr2858]

that so racist.,stupid myth

[@yantiramadhaty1753]

@@sonybramantio769 Nope. I am Betawi-Chinese from my father and Sundanese from my mother's side. I have no Javanese blood at all to my knowledge. You are very racist saying that. Did you know, the Sundanese kingdom lasted from 669 to 1579. Long before Majapahit was born and still exists after Majapahit was destroyed. Even the Sundanese kingdom is still experiencing 2 golden age after Majapahit began to collapse: the very long reign of Niskala Wastu Kancana and during the reign of Prabu Siliwangi, the grandson of Niskala If you say Niskala (or Sundanese man) is lazy, I say he is brave, strong and smart. He walked alone to Madakaripura ( Gajah Mada's land) and faced the men who are responsible for the death of his entire family. But when he met Gajah Mada, Niskala only saw a lonely old man without honor anymore. So Niskala left him. When Majapahit collapsed, the Sundanese kingdom entered the golden age. That's Niskala's revenge to Majapahit

[@yantiramadhaty1753]

@@aryffkurr2858 "estri larangan ti kaluaran" It was the law issued by the sunda's crown prince when his family killed in Bubat. Sundanese people may not marry a Majapahit person. Is that racist? I don't know, maybe. Niskala passed the law when he faced deep mourning. And his people agree with him. The Sundanese people just don't trust the javanese people anymore

[@strawberriec]

@@sonybramantio769 i dont think you should say that cause this could bring war in the comment area

[@meong6809]

Ribut masalah seperti ini, membuat saya tertawa geli

[@shirleylee1092]

Hi ! I'm indonesian and live in Java, thank you for making this series. I'm showing it to my kids. It is interesting and easy to understand, much better than reading piles of rambling history books. Your videos summarize the history well, and even I learn one or two things from them. (so that's why the Sundanese people call us 'Javanese'. We usually talk back to them "Look at where you stand man, what island is this?" ) For the mistakes that you made, nah, they're fine, we forgive you. It's nice that you make this video to rectify them though.

[@Catalistic]

Please do "The Adventure of Ibn Batutta."

[@moojesticcookie1456]

Catalistic they did do the perspective of Ibn Batutta in the Mali series

[@adamantobserver8655]

They did

[@chilliam00]

@@adamantobserver8655 SIDE TRIP.

[@grandhisgrandhis8946]

Thank you so much for your work. I am Javanese and come from central Java. Since I was child, my mother always tell me about Bubat battle and how we shouldn't marry a sundanese. It is indeed a sensitive topic eventhough hundred years has passed since that battle. Oh and fun fact, if you look closely, my university (gadjah mada university, named after Prime Minister Gajah Mada) has (almost) similar symbol with majapahit. Not quite similar but it has that "surya majapahit" feels on it lol

[@jacoblucas5279]

When you mention food especially culturally significant dishes, would you mind throwing up a few pictures. I think it would help a lot with the description. It's a small thing.

[@ethantemple506]

Those new topics are AWESOME!!!! I’ve got another idea as well, but I’m not able to access Patreon cause parents: The Life and Political career of Cicero

[@sarasamaletdin4574]

Why Cicero when there should be two end of Roman Republic series rather? If you pick individuals form the era Caesar, Pompey, Anthony at very least had more interesting lives.

[@ethantemple506]

Sara Samaletdin Even better!

[@ethantemple506]

Sara Samaletdin although to be fair, Cicero isn’t as well known, at least compared to Caesar, Pompey or Mark Antony.

[@sarasamaletdin4574]

A History Nut, well some people are less known for a reason. I mean Cicero is well known but it’s his for his writing not his life primary since his writings were so influential and his life less interesting than many of his contemporaries even though interesting on his own.

[@Ihyabond009]

Well...you know, Dark Brotherhood...

[@golgarisoul]

That magical dagger story is amazing. I'm definitely stealing that for D&D.

[@alexanderchristopher6237]

Has the ability kill 7 of your enemies.

[@arko8523]

Even I'm an Indonesian I still believe Indonesia has real independece at 1949 because that 4 year conflict with Dutch

[@jjryan1352]

America had the same problem. First came the bravery to make the Declaration of Independence, but then there was still the hard work to truly free the country.

[@radendaffaearlyansyah9753]

I am from Indonesia and I can confirm your series on majapahit thought me more than the history class I got back in high school.

[@yudhakuncoro]

13:27 wow, I impressed you know that, I'm Javanese btw

[@InspectHistory]

There is a book entitled "Nusantara", I bet they used them as one of the sources :)

[@filipusandikawicaksana6822]

He probably read my comments from that episode wkwkwk Since another comment mentioned the "1351" mistake, which he also corrected, making me think that he corrected some of the mistakes from the comments

[@gamepapa1211]

I am using your series as part of my English class. Really thankful for it!

[@folvenson]

We love you Matt. You guys are doing awesome with these videos.

[@adijayaification]

I suggested you to talk to Dave from Londo Kampung KZbin channel; he is native Australian living in Java

[@adijayaification]

He's been living in Java since he was 2 years and now he's 30s. He living a Javanese life

[@danuaditya642]

14:35. In regards of lion and leopard, it is most likely refers to the tiger, specifically Javan tiger (extinct), whichy known as "the king of the forest". The lion reference is part of Indian culture legacy which relates the lion to the government or king power. This is the source of word singgasana (literal "the throne of lion") as translation of throne. It is the same interpretation as in the history of Singapore.

[@junisoehardjo]

thank you for adding South East Asian in your series. it brings attention to this beautiful part of the world not only for modern tourism but also place where great civilizations arise.

[@dead-ishchannel6212]

Is that a nepal flag in the background?

[@thefortnitegameryt285]

Yes

[@abelcheng2073]

Aye.

[@f7city86]

Yep

[@redbenada798]

What other flag has that shape?

[@quicksilvermarvel6392]

Commander Raichu Why are you asking ?

[@teddysatrio]

Interesting point: Islam in Indonesia is derived from India (traders from Gujarat) and China, but nowadays in modern Indonesia the axis seems to be shifting towards Middle East. I personally believe that this is political, but any additional perspective that can explain this shift would be appreciated

[@timothymclean]

Germany: "'W' is pronounced 'v'." England: "Ugh...fair enough, it's your alphabet, too." Indonesia: "'V' is pronounced 'w'." England: "What? Why does-where's the idiot who thought _that_ was a good way to Anglicize it?" Germany: "I'm confused, what's the problem?"

[@vortimulticompte7177]

Timothy McLean mmmh...the V was invented for /w/

[@FeyTheBin]

Well, we Indonesian stopped pronouncing "V" as "W" a long time ago actually. Then again, I don't really want to ruin this joke (even though I just did), so carry on.

[@kingpopaul]

The Latin "v" probably had the "w" sound too since the letter w was not part of Latin.

[@tams805]

Actually, in English most German words are pronounced with a 'w' instead of a 'v'. The 'correction' to 'v' is generally not accepted if it is already a well known word in English. The same applies to any other language, hence 'Java' not 'Jawa'. It allows English speakers to just get on with the story rather than waste time on pronunciation. This is why translators and interpreters exist as professions, as it isn't as simple as most people make it out to be.

[@veratrindye7292]

That's because the Javanese language borrowed a lot of vocabulary from Sanskrit, especially for the royal titles... only the Javanese didn't have a native "v" sound, so it became a "w" sound instead. So technically it's correct to pronounce "Srivijaya" with a "v" because it's a Sanskrit-derived name - though the Javanese pronunciation is "Sriwijaya". Same with how English speakers call the guy who ruled the USSR "Joseph Stalin" even though the native Georgian pronunciation is "Ioseb" - it's still the same name from the same root, pronounced two different ways. As for the name of the island itself, I believe that it had to do with Marco Polo's book rendering it in Old French as "Iaua", which morphed into "Java" over the centuries via misreading.

[@yosoyysoyyo]

There are a lot of places I would love to go that I can't feel safe visiting given current LGBT-related laws and/or prejudices. I hope I can visit Indonesia and many other places like it someday. Edit: Thank you for the comments! Anyone like me thinking of visiting, apparently you'll be alright if you 1) don't ask, don't tell, 2) stay in the more touristy areas, and 3) stay far away from Aceh. I'm still too cautious to risk it at this time (see my reply) but if anyone else was on the fence for the same reason, then you can consider going there more seriously! (Thank you locals again! 💜)

[@muhammadfirstian4847]

Nah its fine. The worst thing you can get if you show anything LGBT here is a sneer stare. (Maybe mock stare too.) Nothing else will happend.

[@theyusar8247]

As long as you didn't publicize your sexuality (public display of affection are not well received, whether you're straight or not) and make it look like a platonic relation to other people you should be fine visiting Indonesia. Depending on your ethnicity you might get some curious looks aimed at you, but that's not too much of a problem.

[@russellalexanderyim8623]

Just stay in the more touristy places and youll be safe. There are alot of extremely intolerant in indonesia but the cities and tourist areas are mostly safe, also stay away from aceh. Its a national embarassment.

[@zeroyuki92]

In general you can do whatever you want as long as you don't force your idea to locals or insult the wrong thing/person. Yes, there are some religious bigots, but LGBT live both in background or even in the spotlight (e.g read about Dolce Gamalama, a famous Trans artist that is also religious and basically was Indonesian's Oprah popularity wise). It's actually even easier for you since locals generally do not think that non locals are muslim, thus do not need to abide by islamic rules. TL;DR: Being LGBT is okay, holding a gay proud parade or demanding legalization of gay marriage is not. Avoid Aceh like a plague tho, that place is a beatiful but is being run by assholes.

[@ycantiusegeorgiantextforhandle]

Unless you're going to Aceh you should be safe.

[@shawnheatherly]

I like the idea of having a one-off in between the end of the main series and its Lies episode.

[@arivanuaranu]

Java is the anglicized name so it's fine to pronounce it as you would in English, and the v's in Sanskrit names are acceptable as well. But yeah, the "j" in "jago" should be pronounced as voiced postalveolar affricate.

[@anttibjorklund1869]

That Walpole connection was a bit too easy.... :P

[@robertwalpole360]

The connection my be easy, but I'm not. ;)

[@mestre12]

Sometimes this connetions dont need to be complicated.

[@anttibjorklund1869]

I know, the comment was made a bit tongue-in-cheek as is implied by the smiley used.

[@jarredmace1080]

The only issue I have with the connection is that the South Sea Company didn't have anything to do with Indonesia, but the Caribbean. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKTOZ6KQopZ4e6M

[@timothymclean]

That's why they're doing Walpole connections and not That One Soldier In the Opium Wars connections.

[@ajiekstoneman5445]

Wow, I am impressed, how you knew a lot about Indonesian history especially about my hometown, Singosari which was a Kingdom in the 13th century in East Java. Well, I am going to follow your stories and be one of your subscribers, Good luk, TFS!!

[@alinabintang1642]

Thanx to introduce Majapahit series.. My grand parent said, big part of Indonesia.. Malaysia Thailand Singapore Philipina Timor Leste Brunei Darussalam All Majapahit descendant.. Nusantara brotherhood..

[@Cutie_Oni]

thanks* And no one really cares about what your grand parents said

[@adinnaikhwani6255]

@@Cutie_Oni thanks, AND I DO CARE ABOUT HIS GRAND PARENT

[@RizkhyDestatama]

Did you watched the video? The real story is Majapahit literally just east java and bali, majapahit extort others land for tribute. Other than east java and bali actually kingdoms with induvidual government too, just colonized by majapahit.

[@adityapriambudi5983]

Dezta93 you may need to read about the mandala political system.

[@adinnaikhwani6255]

@@RizkhyDestatama LOL, YOU NEED TO READ MORE STORY, EVERY ISLAND NOT ALL HAVE A KINGDOM LIKE MAJAPAHIT

[@sinantara665]

leopards are indigenous to Java

[@VijayRagMalimNawar]

Extra Credits should do a program about the lies of "Hang Tuah" stories that mentioned in Malaysian history.

[@averynvoleen9252]

You make indonesia history a little bit easier to understand. Thanks. Never been a fan of history of my own country. But your story telling blew my mind.

[@DielGunner]

No sambal is a huge deal for many Indonesians. Some of my friends expressed that their dish missed something as they didn't have sambal provided with it.

[@vbi2dd103Abgr]

that is the same fact that I read from many references that prove Majapahit Kingdom was never conquer Indonesia. Majapahit region is only Java land and Bali (not include Sunda). Majapahit even Singhasari also never conquer to Sumatera. Pamalayu Expedition is only to make some relationsship to Dharmasraya Kingdom. Arca Amoghase is a gift from Singhasari to Dharmasraya Kingdom for this relationship

[@adilpangestu3924]

Then what about other kingdom literature like Salalatus Salatin(Melayu), Hikayat Raja-Raja Pasai (Pasai), Alamat Zaman Ketahtaan Nagari Baruni (Brunei), Pasak Negeri Kapuas and Wadian Nan Sarunai Usak Jawa (Dayak), Kronik Kutai (Kutai), Hikayat Negeri Butuni (Buton), Kisah Perang Maya (East Nusa Tenggara Kingdoms), Hikayat Banjar (Banjar), etc, which tells of the Majapahit attack on his territory? Coupled with notes from other nations such as Yingyai Shenglan and Ming Shilu from China that depict the Majapahit region which covers most of the archipelago?

[@Heavenlyrules]

Say whatever you want. The ancient manuscripts say otherwise

[@FeyTheBin]

We need a series specifically aboun Ibn Battuta's adventures!

[@arunimaanand2046]

Yes, Ibn-e-Batuta series, please. It'll be exciting to see the world through his perspective.

[@bradley8614]

Where are the original guys??

[@Qardo]

He is doing his own thing on another channel...or so I read somewhere. I do not know the channel sadly -.-;

[@InspectHistory]

You mean James? yeah I missed him too :( But this guy is good too, I think :)

[@dianagarcia6336]

@@Qardo playframe

[@lynallott3404]

He didn't write the episodes so he doesn't do the lies

[@Awesoman66]

I also wondered about that.

[@akiefalfatih4145]

14:30 I think they mean literal lion, not a leopard. Lion in Javanese is singo and in Malay and Bahasa Indonesia is singa. Knowing this you"ll understand that the ancient Indonesian already have knowledge about lions even long before Majapahit because they even named 2 kingdoms after lions, SINGO-Sari and SINGA-Pura. This also explained that Indonesian sailors already reaches Africa at that time because there is no lion in Indonesia. The similarity between Madagascar culture, ethnicity and language with Javanese also proof that Indonesian sailors are familiar with the African continent in ancient times, long before Majapahit.

[@rajasriindra9004]

Singa actually Sanskrit word, as far i know

[@lemonadethefifthp389]

I'm Indonesian. Thanks for covering our history and for helping our earthquake and tsunami victims

[@stefanusbayu1426]

The research actually really thorough. And your mispronounciation is forgiven. Also treat Indonesia alphabet a kind to that of german one. They have similar sound Glad to hear you love sambal. I cant eat it cause it will upset my stomach

[@masayukitachibana2756]

what a shame. my cousin introduce me to it and I can't get enough of it :D

[@koriharyono5712]

Yo...there's actually Indonesian that can't eat sambal?what a pity

[@mathetesolei7961]

2:48 It's less about pronunciation mistakes than how you choose to pronounce Sanskrit words. 'V' is Sanskrit's consonant glide form of the vowel 'u', just like in Latin. Thus theoretically it should sound like 'w'. In India, it has long been pronounced like English 'v' due to fricativization; similar to the shift in Persian - Sanskrit's cousin - during the transition from Sassanid Persian to New Persian. However, native Indonesian words don't have the 'v' sound, and thus hard to pronounce correctly. So, localized Sanskrit words are pronounced with the theoretical 'w'. Similarly, native Indonesian words don't have the 'sh' sound and is often pronounced as simple 's'. Which is why the 'Shri' (Sanskrit for 'holy' or 'illustrious') is localized into 'Sri'. Some local languages/dialects in Indonesia also find trouble pronouncing certain consonant clusters, so they pronounce it 'Seri'. Likewise 'Pertiwi' (motherland) for original Sanskrit 'Prithvi' (Goddess of the Earth). The official spelling in the standard Indonesian language often reflects these localized features, among others because that's how they've been pronounced and written even among the educated and in the royal courts. However, Western academics and historians often prefer to stay true to the Sanskrit pronunciation. Whether you want to read/write it as 'Sriwijaya' (the local and officially "correct" form) or 'Shrivijaya' (the academically correct form); they're all valid.

[@yantiramadhaty1753]

In my opinion, don't feel too intimidated if someone says it's wrong. All we can do is tell which historical source we took to support that opinion. Because if we look at historical relics in Indonesia for example, sometimes they differ from each other. Pararaton mixes historical facts and legends. Negarakretagama on the other hand, is considered more accurate in terms of years or names of characters, but only includes good things from Singasari and Majapahit. So there is no Bubat war in Negarakretagama or the curse of Mpu Gandring. That's just two books, not to mention the inscriptions, temples, statues, or songs. Or even notes from foreign explorers. So, it is very important to include the historical source. But for me as an Indonesian and as a historian, that's fun. All debates indicate that history and culture are still interesting very much alive for Indonesians. I am sad if no one debates me in the classroom.

[@emilynaima967]

hi! Just want to say that you’re my favorite history channel! I’m Indonesian and I’m so amazed at your majapahit videos. Keep it up!

[@deciananapitupulu5903]

Halo dari Indonesia!! Majapahit is from Sumatra and i'm Batak(which is north Sumatran) Love your vids

[@Brata19]

About Ken Arok and battle of Bubat stroy; those might be fiction or lies. You might look into this historian guy Agus Sunyoto (but only in Indonesian languange though). Basically these stories might have been made up to undermine or divide and conquer the archipelago that being brought up by the dutch. So why not keep and open mind and try to see it from another perspective.

[@c4ezar]

I know it wont happen, but maybe watching a couple series of Medieval Indonesia will be a good idea

[@ayoksus]

True or not, people can just check it deeper. However, thanks for a great history presentation about great nations in Indonesia. In Indonesia recently, there is a guy making controversial statement that Sriwijaya was never existed. Shocked almost everyone in the country.

[@rufuspanjaitan5759]

Thank you for this series. I understand Majapahit more from this series than from the history classes during my school years.

[@wil-]

Thanks, ur 4 years late but still appreciated :)

[@airilsra]

It makes me happy watching your expression when you tell us the quote about the chariot.

[@vitordan23]

My dream of seeing Brazil in this channel still lives

[@sudirjahariwibowo8169]

Couldn't wait for the next episode.. Very nice job in Majapahit series..👏👏👏

[@nanaaaaa5499]

Thank you for doing this series. Absolutely love this!

[@sinantara665]

about Indianized kingdoms, Indians did not conquer any Indonesian territory but they migrated in several waves to Sumatra and Java. The first kingdom in Cetral Java was Kalinga, which morphed into Bhumi Mataram, and from Indian sources it is said that when Kalingga was overun by the Mauryas the elite (who had the means for it) migrated to Java rather than living under the Mauryas. In Java they were well received. Then in Sumatra a 'kling' is an Indian. For acceptance they even initiated their own clan, the Nasution and Nasutions indeed look Indian/ The genotype is also common in Java but after Islam some people rather admit they're of Arab descent. My point is, and this can be found in Indian litrature that migration played a role in the transmission of Indian culture.

[@deepblue3682]

sinantara 66 ,add to that "Bali yatra" the festival of kalinga (odisa)..which is happening now..

[@sinantara665]

what does Bali means in regional language? Here we have the island of Java, the name Subali is still a common name for traditional minded Javanese and kembali means return in Indonesian.

[@sinantara665]

I mean the island of Bali

[@deepblue3682]

sinantara 66 ,island of Bali..was called "Bali dweepa"...and is barley quite commonly cultjvated in java??..

[@deepblue3682]

sinantara 66 ,Bali in many Indian language also have a common meaning of "pithru tharpana" or giving offerings to deceased ancestors...or giving offerings to verious deities in the temples

[@KaptenN]

Do you guys have any thoughts on releasing refined versions of extra history episodes where you've fixed all the errors you've found? You could perhaps sell them on blu-ray or in digital stores.

[@asikbanget5041]

I'm a Javanese man married to a Sundanese woman. Our wedding was almost 10 years ago, and yes and that time there were always people within her or my family that disagreed with my marriage. I told them (through my relatives), if they don't pay anything for the wedding, they just might as well shut up

[@teriinekoyama1369]

8:33 Interesting thing about that joke, which I found out in 2010. I happened to be in a panel with the Admiral that was the head of the ship during that visit by Dubya at the Women of Color career fair that year. Turns out that banner was actually meant for the ship's crew; it was their mission that was accomplished, not the war in Iraq. I know, it ruins the joke, but some context never hurts.

[@jnliewmichael4235]

Really looking forward to the Chinese revolution series! I hope it lives up to your amazing standards! On the other hand, I would hope to see videos done on the Brooke Family, the White Rajas of Sarawak, though I dunno if it's interesting enough to make a series on / for international audiences

[@aangb0b]

I'm interested to learn more, any recommendations for further reading on the topic?

[@bima4wijaya]

hello just wanna say I LOVE your episodes about Majapahit 😊 love how the western retell the history of Java which myself wasn't really know that deep honestly... by the way, just some thought, maybe you could manage to make the Ken Arok-Ken Dedes story? like, maybe a side story thing? just some thought.. keep doing your great stuffs guys I enjoy it 🙂👍

[@tec-jones5445]

19:45 Hey it's the reading baby! Keep it up little guy, you'll be a great historian/KZbinr one day.

[@AldoMichaelM]

For not eating spice, actually there is belief in java religion that fasting spice for 40days called "puasa putih" or you can litterally translate it to whitr fasting. So it means you can eat anything as long as there are white and tasteless (eat only plain rice). In this case he fast until he can reunite archipelago

[@tazine1070]

do an episode on Sejong the great of Chosun dynasty

[@PrograError]

and the lead up to the Japanese occupation of the peninsula as well as the resistance movements...

[@roderickvannoorloos1967]

AKA: The Chosun One

[@klabumalami6699]

its too sour kimchi bro

[@hutauruk_andika]

Empu Gandring (the smith)'s curse on Keris Empu Gandring (the mystical dagger) was actually have little more story to it. I don't know the detail but there is a lot of vengeance blood on it. Ken Arok after becoming king later will be killed by the previous king's son with the dagger. The killer (the rightfull ruler) will ascend to the throne and later be killed by Ken Arok son with the dagger. Story told that this Vengeance cycle goes back and forth until the 7'th descendant, fulfiling the curse. Sorry for my bad english

[@Rvc546]

10:19 its pretty easy... Shri maha-raja virla-nand-gopala Shri sundar-pandya deva adi-ishvara

[@albinappelberg1637]

Why do not you put the sections in the playlist any longer?

[@singhanmolpreet5935]

2:10 he said Constantinople, but he said Bagdad before! Is this a mistake?

[@Morphium.]

I think not. They most likely needed to cross Constanitnople on their way to Bagdad

[@SaaranshMehta]

I like the new format! one offs are pretty good!

[@fireisawesome1466]

talapatras are better in many ways than medieval paper in many ways look into annamayya talapatra they are maintain very well even today

[@endrigoV]

Fascinating! Greetings from indonesia

[@ahmadganteng7435]

You have a good collection of our heritage.. Thanks :)

[@Smooth_Joe]

There's a lot of lost records on the history of the majapahit. Or intentionally hidden by the Dutch colonists. Because rulers have the right to write history. European explorers greatly appreciated the 'jong Java'. And also a banner (flag) majapahit with his eminence in the nusantara region. Which is in fact the inspiration for the national flag of the United States. Ones of museum in the USA holds the spear weapons from the royal majapahit. How the hell did that get there? (By Google translate)

[@yaminisolo314]

Trima kasih. 😊🙏 Ai. From. Javanis.indonesia

[@MrDoob-xo3sm]

As a Hong Konger, can't wait for the Chinese revolution series!

[@rhitomdey3199]

You did not talk about Malacca's association with the mouse deer!!! While looking for a new capital, Parameswara saw a mouse deer under a Malacca tree( yes the state is named after a tree) that out witted his hunting dogs. He was so impressed with the sight that he chose the sight to be his new state. And this was born, Malacca, the spiritual home of modern day Malaysia, the true descendant of Sriwajaya.

[@gingerteddy618]

Sriwijaya originated from the Malay peninsula.

[@widuroadi]

Terima kasih for the great Video

[@gilokdc]

YES, a ibn battuta series would be awesome!

[@jacobkidwell4315]

Sticking to the topic of Southeast Asia can u do a series on the history of siam please

[@Last555555555]

I like the new format.