Kiowa Pilots discuss the DCS OH-58D module and aircraft history

I sit down with a former colleague and current co-development consultant and discuss the upcoming Polychop Simulations' OH-58D Kiowa Warrior module for DCS, as well as the aircraft's history, impact on military aviation, and how our lives were changed flying the mighty KW.
This video is dedicated to COL Michael Pyott, CW3 Frank "No Cheese" Buoniconti and CPT Matt Mattingly; Cavalrymen lost too soon and whose impact on the Kiowa community endures. (Photos at video end)
Time Stamps;
Introductions- 2:50
DCS Module development discussion- 15:28
Kiowa History- 35:04
Check out Barundus' instructor-pilot level introduction to the Kiowa and its systems here: • Kiowa Warrior Detailed...

[@astronak3333]

As a former 19D, the OH-58D was my most favorite air support while deployed in Iraq. They were always right there, like "duck down before the landing skid takes your head off" close. I can only describe Kiowa pilots as "insane manics" , but in the most endearing of terms. The most memorable moment with Kiowas is when we had to get to a crossing on the Tigris river to check a building, but the one of the Kiowas decided that they would just land and clear it themselves, and they did.

[@CasmoTV]

Scouts out!

[@None-yb5ts]

*puts on stetson* yee haw fellas

[@pablonator3000able]

We enjoyed Mortarmen in our Squadron...the Cav was a brotherhood.

[@gradycdenton]

I was an Infantryman in Kandahar province with the 101st ABN during the surge. We were supported by a unit of Kiowas call sign "Long Knife". It's been said that ameteurs think about tactics while professionals think about logistics. The Apache is an absolute monster but didn't have the availability rate that the Kiowas had. Bottom line is I could count on the Kiowas to show up. Salute!

[@nateweter4012]

That’s really cool. Did the Kiowas have more time on station than the apaches, or were they cheaper to maintain and there were more of them? It’s a fascinating aircraft. I’m a fixed wing guy IRL but fly helos almost exclusively in DCS and will pick this up day 1.

[@gradycdenton]

@@nateweter4012 Kiowa is simpler with fewer parts so maintenance is easier. Time on station in my AO was actually less than the Apache due to high & hot conditions. The Kiowas flew both reduced ammo and reduced fuel capacity to maintain flight performance. However, we compensated for that by having a FARP at the local FOB so they could refuel, rearm, and return to the fight without leaving the AO. So in summary, the Apache is a much more capable platform but a Kiowa overhead is more helpful than an Apache in the hanger!

[@bombtek2451]

I will never meet the guys but in Iraq in 2006 a Kiowa pilot provided air support when we were being shot at by the enemy. I got to watch them rain down rockets on the target to save our rear ends. Thank you guys for doing what you do. Retired EOD here.

[@archstanton7006]

Retired Army here, and former 11B. That last statement about 11Bs gravitating to the 58s was a great way to end the discussion. I think that general sentiment is the same as most Soldiers feel about the A10s, and the general reaction we/they have every time the AF talks about getting rid of the A10s. Ground combat can be a lonely experience, and the simple act of SEEING someone else participate, providing persistent support (A10s, 58s, occasionally 64s) seems to create a special, if one-way, affection that doesn't develope between, say, an infantryman and his organic artillery support for example. Probably because that artilleryman is miles away, unseen, unheard. It's a very interesting phenomenon

[@aaronwhite1786]

I can't even imagine the difference in boost the ground guys get from knowing they've got something like an F-16 flight overhead, but barely visible, to seeing and hearing an A-10 creep over a hillside and then come back around for a gun run.

[@rehil123]

going to be more than you think that will watch this

[@CasmoTV]

Already have 🤣. Thanks for watching.

[@zealousideal]

I’m retired military. I was 11B infantry at drum back in those days and then went 67T/15T was on Blackhawks with 2-10 AVN just a few years after you got there. That was my dream job to be a pilot, but didn’t get selected for warrant back then.

[@Refuse2Lose33]

I had NEVER seen this helo before I went on deployment to Afghanistan in '09. I was a Navy submariner on an IA billet and I found myself in the middle of mountains on a FOB overseas (talk about out-of-place!). I remember flying in from Kuwait and the FIRST aircraft I saw when we hit the tarmac was this funny-looking helo with this weird bulb on top of it. I joked to some one that it looked like it had a great idea with that radar mast but didn't know until a month or two later, what a badass helo it was. Whenever the Taliban launched rocket attacks, these seemed to be the first aircraft to lift off and go flying in the direction of the insurgents. I've been a fan of the Kiowa ever since.

[@CasmoTV]

Where in Afghanistan was this?!

[@Refuse2Lose33]

@@CasmoTV I was stationed on Bagram from '09-'10 doing detainee ops at the BTIF

[@CasmoTV]

Oh ok. I know we had a navy man at TK with us in 09 which is in the mountains so I thought it might have been a small world moment.

[@Refuse2Lose33]

@@CasmoTV definitely! Maybe a corpsman? My uncle was a Navy corpsman with the Marines in Iraq back in '04. They sent us squids all over the place back then lol. Although, I have a particularly hard time convincing people the Navy would actually send a submariner to a land-locked country lol.

[@CasmoTV]

He was an officer. Dealing with the scan Eagle as I recall. I think he was a NFO.

[@isaacrothman6522]

Having read Chickenhawk and Low Level Hell as a civilian who's interested in aviation and just got into DCS, that was a really fascinating listen. A lot of stuff sounded, like you said, exactly how it was in Mills' / Mason's time.

[@CasmoTV]

Welcome. Glad you enjoyed. Check out the low level hell podcast. Even had Mills on the show.

[@deltamark6950]

Great video guys! Thank you! Learned a lot! A few days ago was a one year anniversary of the CROAF Kiowa crash. Our pilots crashed in the Adriatic Sea on their way to support special forces in exercise, unfortunately losing their lives. Here in Croatia we are really proud to have this badass helicopter. Our pilots finally got some small but powerful addition to our rotary component. Next on the way is new UH-60M which should replace our Mi-8MTV1. We really love the Kiowa, we originally ordered 16 of them and additional 10 are on their way as well. I'm glad that our Kiowas got some eyes from US on them, it's a shame that they didn't get well deserved modernisation... Anyway, thanks once again, keep uploading video like this! Cheers from Croatia! 🇭🇷🇺🇸

[@CasmoTV]

Take care of our girls! And stay safe.

[@Lemontheft2]

Finally found someone who is on KZbin and took the same path I'm planning to take. 15T to crew chief to pilot, been trying to get info on how viable it is for years now so I'll definitely be checking out his channel.

[@shagrat47]

Nice! So much valuable background info. Just one comment on DCS. Actually the first model with the advanced physics was the "DCS: Ka-50 Black Shark", back in the days. Prior to that we had "Lock On: Modern Air Combat" and "Flaming Cliffs", but these had a very different flight modeling approach. The Ka-50 required a complete new way of modeling aerodynamics, and AFAIK it was the first Simulator to have authentic VRS, retreating blade stall, blade/rotor disc dynamics etc. So this helicopter was actually the foundation for DCS, as we know it...I remember when with "Flaming Cliffs 2" there was the first time to the possibility of Multi-Player with the Black Shark AND Flaming Cliffs aircraft in the same "simulated world"... 😍

[@Reticuli]

X-Plane does all that stuff since 9, though IMO the RBS is kinda weak still even when it is worked into it, not to mention most blade and engine models are often not quite the right balance to get good RPM effects in most X-Plane helos. I mean, you can hear the RPM effects and see the gauges, but usually there's not a huge effect on lift or rotor health when they go into an extreme situation unless you're in autorotation. EECH has VRS and RBS, but no RPM effects except on a recent mod/hack that basically broke a bunch of other stuff on the flight model if you turn RPM effects on -- FM 02 in the ini. I mostly just use FM 01 in EECH now and give up the imperfect automated coordination of the turns. FM 00 is too lite and FM 02 is too heavy feeling, IMO. Janes Longbow had some RPM effects but none of the other stuff. Longbow still has the best replica of a Comanche-style AFCS, though, but obviously used because people were expected to be flying with a joystick rather than a real pole cyclic. IMO still probably the best control technique for a home helo computer game, though. You can sorta kinda get the Janes Longbow RC/AH system in EECH with PPJoy+GlovePIE... and add pedals that Janes LBA requires some serious utilities to hide controllers from the game to do. This GlovePIE scripting also works for FSX for dynamically trimming pitch with a joystick. X-Plane actually has a check box in Special Equipment for auto loading of pitch trims you can use in conjunction with trim ranges to get a similar style of dynamic pitch trimming without the need for PPJoy+GlovePIE scripting. X-Plane also has a helo trimmer available now and a really good WL AP mode & CWS button assign that can do the same thing for those that want to hold a button, move the stick, and release manually.

[@shagrat47]

@@Reticuli Unfortunately X-Plane has no weapons, no damage modeling, no AI units, etc. a pop up with "you f...d up" doesn't really cut it when it comes to modeling complex systems...😉

[@Reticuli]

@@shagrat47 X-Plane has weapons and some damage modeling. I'm not sure what you mean by a pop up with "you f...d up" on it. There are plenty of X-Plane aircraft with complex systems, including FAA-approved pro flight sim set-ups with it. It is true, however, that X-Plane is not a combat flight sim, though.

[@Barundus]

Thanks for setting this up, Casmo! Really enjoyed it! Looking forward to the next one.

[@CasmoTV]

Samsies. I think maybe a two ship flight video might be in order as well... 🚁🚁

[@lightningmcqueen181]

My 1st Deployment back in 2005 (172nd Stryker Brigade .Ft.Ruchardaon Ak).when we were in Mosul, we had the Kiowa/ Apache pairs for close air support.. In that 17 month Deployment from Mosul down to Baghdad , that was the only time we had Kiowa's. & were Hands Down the best airsupport Assets we had throughout ! Absolutely fearless.. To top it off, it was always a Female Pilot in the Kiowa ! In al-Anbar we had Marine Cobras , Huey's, Chinooks 's & Harrier assets & Baghdad was just Apaches who NEVER , EVER came down to the Deck

[@davidsiegel9176]

I was a 67 V and these were just coming out. I did get to play around with them with a few test pilots at Ft. Hood. Think it was 6th Cavalry birds.

[@elctro7]

such an interesting aircraft with almost no documentation made about it, it really feels like an unsung hero these days, thank you for making this video. Even if I'm a bit late to the party.

[@CasmoTV]

Strange how more people know about it now than when it was doing work. More to follow of the KW soon

[@Power5]

1:04:02 Great point. Usually only becomes clear to me in DCS when those first tracer rounds buzz the cockpit and I manically look around for where it came from.

[@cowboyf2504x4]

We had 58s as sir cover when I was with Cav in Mosul in 09. Love you rotor guys.

[@jakesinclair7266]

my pops flew oh-58 A/C models in Korea, e troop 5/17 cav, always made me a fan of the Kiowa

[@benswanson914]

Thanks to both of you for this discussion, and for the in-depth perspective and detail. I'm very excited to fly the -58 in DCS and the more I learn the more that grows.

[@CasmoTV]

Ben Swanson thanks for listening. We just wrapped up part two last night and I hope to have it up soon slap that subscribe!

[@tonyrobbins1665]

I'm watching ! My youngest brother CWO2 Fedor retired from the Army flying the KW in Afghanistan

[@Barundus]

Found myself here again from a link posted in the PC discord. At the end, we mentioned the KW had well over 2M flight hours across the fleet, with over 830K of those in combat. With a fleet of 368 aircraft, of which only about 320 remained towards the last few years, that's around 2600 hours in combat (averaged) for each airframe... Those hamsters in the back must've been worn-out by then.. Of course, there's a whole new generation of pilots flying these in new units now. Lucky bastards.

[@sasquatchycowboy5585]

Actually the very first DCS module was DCS KA-50 Blackshark, back in 2009. It started with rotary wings, then lost itself for awhile. But it looks looks like its coming home soon.

[@Power5]

I spent so much time in the BS back then. I am just now getting back into the whirly bird to scrape off all the rust since the KW and Hind and AH are about to drop. Already bought the Hind, and just waiting on the others.

[@sasquatchycowboy5585]

@@Power5 God I can't wait. I spent a tone of time with the Huey, and still love it. But I'm ready for the Hind. Honestly I hate the Kamove. The lack of viability really sucks, and I'm not a fan of the workload. Truly I hope to love the Hind, it fits the era I'm most interested in, and I can hopefully let the AI guide the missils, while I consent of the flying.

[@Power5]

@@sasquatchycowboy5585 agreed. I like flying the ka50 but when it comes down to a dynamic environment it is very difficult to maintain SA. I love flying my f-14 just for same reason of not having to know every single system in the plane. Let me fly and point weapons, let the RIO configure everything to go boom when it should.

[@radsy5821]

Really enjoyed this lads. Brought back some fond memories of flight school and the couple of hundred hours I spent in a 206B-1. Sadly it wasn't to be for me, but for a time I was recce-adjacent and that was enough to make me respect the role and the crews who fly it. I have mates from those days who went on to Gazelles, Apaches and Tigers... can't wait to recapture the feel in the Polychop KW. Day 1 no brainer, take my money Sven! And if you need a beta tester...

[@kdfw3686]

after 4 years kw was released and did not disappoint. advances in multithread processing and vr make the kw flying experience special for us virtual pilots.

[@WillGorillion]

I've gotten to put enough time now into the kiowa that I can fly and employ all weapons, what a joy. Looking forward to updates and streamlining in future updates, but it's already pretty good as it sits. I enjoyed the video, thanks for your service.

[@spectechdmt6902]

Great Stuff MAJ!! Old, fat, and retired18B/Z here, I usually don't spend a lot of time on KZbin, usually just for DCS content, but I have begun watching your channel nightly. Your chill conversational style of delivering great and detailed information, and your, "there I was..." stories, is awesome. Those still pics bring back so many great memories of being downrange. Tal Afar 05, you guys cracked me up, you were always looking to get in on a gunfight.

[@CasmoTV]

Thanks! And thank you for your service!

[@sabatheus]

I'm an old-school Janes Longbow sim fan, and I can't tell you the level of hype I have for the Kiowa and Longbow releases. It's unbearable. Until they drop, I'm going to be absorbing every video you produce!

[@Reticuli]

I don't see why they couldn't put target and threat spotting as automated in the left seat like they do in EECH and Janes Longbow Anthology for DCS, and maybe automated piloting for those that want to do left seat stuff. Gunship! very badly implemented the latter in a sim with a very bad, gamey flight model and weapons implementation but awesome graphics with a believable FLIR. RIP Microprose. If they hadn't shuttered maybe that sim would have been finished. They had some crazy ideas for apparently combining their M1 tank sim with that helo sim.

[@briank982]

I so can't wait for this! I am trying my best, not to get too excited until a release date is announced lol. Worked on these, and others, as an airframe repairer 2002 to 2009.

[@CasmoTV]

Thank you for your service! Gotta keep ‘em in the fight!

[@wurger13]

Thank you for serving and for sharing your experiences! I was in the 1/10 cav in the early 80's with the 58C's. The D was a big improvement for sure! You could takeoff with 2 people on a hot day! LOL Take care and thanks again.

[@CasmoTV]

Always good to see a CAV guy out there! Thank you for your service and for watching.

[@armyfreak9389]

Ft Drum was my first duty station too. I was in 3-17 Cav.

[@Wolfhound_81]

Something about the "seat of the pants", that's something that's really interesting when talking to guys who "only" flew for real and others who fly simulators primarily, and that's a sensory thing. I flew sims for decades (fixedwing) before I flew a R22 for the first time. For me, flying a sim is very very close to flying for real, as my primary sensor is just optics. If things in the sim look the same as in the real world, I can use it vice versa and when I started taking lessons on Robinsons, my simming improved, and by training the stuff in the sim again, my real world flying improved. Something I think you should keep in mind when it comes to the "it's impossible to simulate it because it's seat of the pants". :)

[@Wolfhound_81]

About the multicrew / singlepilot aspect, one way we do it currently with the Gazelle is by mostly not using that camera but enhanced Mk1 Eyeballs with VR Superzoom to look out for targets while flying.

[@CasmoTV]

I think flying sims first translates easier to flying for real than the opposite. I spent YEARS flying sims before I went to flight school and things like control touch and air sense were much easier for me to grasp than guys who didn’t have the same back ground. I flew many hours in janes longbow and other helo sims years before I broke contact with the earth in a Jet ranger and when I went back to the sims years later I had a new appreciation for the proprioceptive system and it’s impact on rotary wing flight. it actually made me worse in the sim cause I wasn’t getting the same feedback anymore that I had grown accustomed to. This is mainly at low speeds and hovering. Sims have a long way to go before that catch the nuance but I think things like VR and pedals can help a lot.

[@Wolfhound_81]

@@CasmoTV Deffo, I wouldn't want to fly anything without VR and my Pro Flight Trainer Puma.

[@GeFlixes]

​@@CasmoTV I've also found that something like a Buttkicker or a JetSeat greatly changes how the simulation feels in that you feel a lot more connected with the aircraft (especially with VR). I think it translates a little bit of that seat-of-the-pants feeling into the simulator, albeit of course artificially and in a way that's different of how a real aircraft would feel. You can for example dial it in so that you feel ETL happening in helicopters, or you feel high AoA in the F-18.

[@CasmoTV]

GeFlixes Ive not heard of that. That sounds interesting!

[@PSMWRX143]

I always loved this helicopter, and I can not wait to take this for a spin!!!

[@one_pang]

Super hyped, thanks for the content

[@Mach1Greeble]

Guys, this was downright fascinating.

[@williamtaylor3275]

As a 15S 2002-2007 i will be buying this Module Day 1 i miss this bird and belive the army made a major mistake dropping the capabilities teh KW had

[@Happy-tp4jd]

This is awesome I hope to see more when the module is out!

[@tequila6955]

Bad Ass! Appreciate your service brothers.

[@BIGNEWY]

Thanks for sharing, enjoyed.

[@CasmoTV]

BIGNEWY thanks for watching! Tune in soon for the second discussion.

[@FlavourlessLife]

This was amazing to listen to... cheers!

[@Mass_hole508]

Thanks for sharing this. Loved the video and i can't wait for this to come out.

[@kenhelmers2603]

Cool info video! Now on to the update :)

[@tinto278]

Great podcast guys, from Aus.

[@Nighthawkaviator]

glad I found this, great video! Enlisted as a 19K and I'm now at Flight School now. I will definitely think about picking an aircraft on my personality compared to what's cool. Apaches are badass but my personality definitely fits Blackhawks though.

[@CasmoTV]

Mitch Johnson glad you found it too. Keep the greasy side down!

[@pitbullvicious2505]

Excellent information. Thanks!

[@Reticuli]

The shark is really tough to employ in DCS with how clunky the EO sensor system is. The trimming system ED is using on it also leaves a lot to be desired. The DCS helos, even the shark and huey, seem to require still slightly too much nose down to maintain speed and also bleed speed too rapidly on nose up when it should be maintaining speed more and gaining altitude without you also lowering collective. Improvement in that over older combat helo sims, but X-Plane seems to do this better. I do not think DCS has pulled off an effective and convincing yaw damper, either. I also found the gazelle to be a bit of an unstable nightmare compared to X-Plane's even with no art stab activated. I disagree with some of the people who've said the DCS helos need to level out more when you take your hand off the stick, though. If I've manually trimmed out the roll moment on my throttle thumb rotary after getting into translational lift, I find this basically the same on DCS as X-Plane (albeit me hat trimming in XP), and when in a hover the tilt back to level doesn't seem that bad at all. Even with adjusting my control sensitivity, the 8 and gazelle, though, seemed to be a excessively wobbly mess in DCS unless you're deep into forward flight. I'd much rather fly around in X-Plane with its 8 and gazelles, and even the X-Plane sharks feel nicer if you cut your pedals by half their range to compensate for the huge yaw capability coaxials in X-Plane give you. I'm still looking for a sim that will do the above right, and model rpm effects on the lift, RBS, etc, that even X-Plane doesn't completely cover sufficiently for rotorcraft. EECH does overt RBS, but not rpm effects well enough yet. Longbow 2 did rpm, at least on the low end from overpitching, but no VRS or RBS.

[@ughleegamer5598]

Really fascinating! thanks for the vid.

[@Longbow7771]

Great video! Can't wait to fly it!

[@CasmoTV]

You’re gonna love it.

[@rehil123]

@@AdmiralQuality The Gazelle is good you only need to tame it, it's not a fighter with all the auto this computer run that it need to be tamed like a bucking bronc. Even then it will try to show you whos is boss ever now and then

[@Wolfhound_81]

@@AdmiralQuality Says who? I'm flying the Gazelle in missions and absolutely love it. If you know how to fly a light helicopter, don't yank the cyclic around like in a Huey, and don't fly it outside of the flight envelope, it's a great helo.

[@eatleadcobra]

Awesome video. Maybe I haven't gotten to this part yet, but when was the CMWS added to the KW (IRL I mean)? I didn't realize we were getting it until I saw the external model

[@kan249]

This was very informative and interesting.

[@Wolfhound_81]

Of course any of you guys as you rightly said can chose which community/squadron to join, what would be really great is if you could record videos of you flying 2-ship or 4-ship missions and explaining what you do why you do it.. things like tactics etc. - That would be kinda force multiplier enabling squadronleaders and instructors like me to take that knowledge and distribute it.

[@CasmoTV]

RotorScout I would love to do that. I have been sharing some basic tactics in the KA-50 with some friends as it translates pretty well to Apache stuff. Would be happy to help you and your squadron out as well if you like!

[@Wolfhound_81]

@@CasmoTV That'd be much appreciated. How can I reach you? I'm in the Polychop Discord as "TAW_Wolfhound"

[@CasmoTV]

RotorScout I’ll hit you up!

[@Dcparkour1]

No way I stumbled onto your channel! I'm currently in B-trp 1-17. Small world.

[@Dcparkour1]

We still wear the Bootleg patches that you had on your helmet @4:38

[@CasmoTV]

I helped design it. I also started the flask tradition if that’s still going on.

[@Dcparkour1]

@@CasmoTV That's awesome! not aware of that one. but we try to stick to the roots, couple of our old squad leaders Sgt Love and Sgt Oldenburg made sure we knew that the 58 was a badass bird and that 1-17 was the tip of the spear.

[@Dcparkour1]

We still have some 58's in the CAB, one on the lawn of the CAB and one at the hangar. Wish I could have worked on them.

[@GatorGreenGladiator]

it was almost symbiotic with that KW watching you. It was your "spirit animal" almost, calling you lol.

[@wingnutjacrispy4511]

R.I.P Matt Mattingly AIRBORNE

[@CasmoTV]

An honestly good dude. Not just saying that in the obligatory “he died so we have to talk good about him”.

[@pablonator3000able]

Carry on Soldier correct...crewchief here

[@pablonator3000able]

Sad the 58 ended but respect the mission it landed.

[@davidsiegel9176]

Worked on the A/C models, No glass cockpits. Did you fly with 2 pilots or did they still have the 93B ariel observers

[@CasmoTV]

2 pilots with the D

[@helo177]

My favorite bird not to bias for being a 15j

[@RedTail1-1]

Also. Development started in like 2017. It's going on 2024 now... What Module takes over 7 years without even releasing EA.

[@CasmoTV]

Couldn’t tell ya.

[@MTBXterra]

Both of you probably were trained or worked with my father at Ft. Rucker, DAC Anderson.

[@CasmoTV]

Don’t remember the name but I may recognize a face. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@MTBXterra]

@@CasmoTV He was involved from the very beginning with the Kiowa - even before it was armed. He retired just before they unfortunately decommissioned the Kiowa. I believe the last 3 or 4 years of his career he was in Standards. He played a big part in setting up the stinger training shoots down in FL. I just happened across this video and heard the mentioning of Fort Rucker. Looks like a great game and enjoyed the video! Brought back a lot of memories of seeing my dad fly and visits to the flight line.

[@fozbstudios]

So I haven’t been paying super close attention but based on the early conversation, is the m4 FIREABLE?

[@CasmoTV]

Nope. Not sure that’s supportable. But I don’t work for PC so idk what limitations exist.

[@fozbstudios]

CasmoTV kinda what I was thinking. Regardless thanks for the content and the service!

[@CasmoTV]

Thanks for watching!

[@ConflictGamingGroup]

So, When we getting Full pink teams?????

[@TheRaptorXX]

Another goodie mate. Ain't got DCS, ain't got any access to Helis but listening to this kinda makes a man want to... just sayin'... By the way, just a quickie but being a natural drummer and ergo used to doing four different things with all four limbs, would this count as a possible potential advantage?!!

[@CasmoTV]

Couldn’t hurt. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Power5]

So what chopper replaced the 58 if it was basically retired in 2014? The interest is there because the majority of us were not able to be an actual flier for various reasons. This is as close as we can get. Hearing the stories of real pilots like you guys is how we can imagine living vicariously through you.

[@CasmoTV]

Nothing. Apaches and UAS.

[@Power5]

Army doesn't fly little bird any more either? So sad. Little bird and kw are a favorite little helo for me.

[@toddw6716]

Nice

[@Timmandel]

where do I go to get the 58?

[@skypickle29]

Who are you interviewing here?

[@konanva0495]

Whend is it goin to be released??

[@CasmoTV]

Not sure yet.

[@konanva0495]

@@CasmoTV is it still 2020 say yes pleaseee ive been diying to fly this bad boy

[@CasmoTV]

I hope so. I really don’t know tho. Not in my knowledge base. Stay tuned tho cause when I know and can say I’ll be sure to tell you!

[@neodecker]

Not sure what that noise in the background is, but it's driving me nuts.

[@mahmud-i9c]

is that oh 58 module cancelled?

[@CasmoTV]

Still in progress…

[@rehil123]

If I can ask Do either of you fly in VR and what are your controls

[@CasmoTV]

I use trackIR. Thrustmaster t16000m with a 3D printed modification I just made recently. I’ll show that in the next video we do. Ive heard VR is much better for helicopter sims. Just gotta pull the trigger

[@rehil123]

@@CasmoTV VR and the Puma flight system defiantly add greatly to the emersion factor

[@CasmoTV]

Lemme see how the stock market treats me in a few months and I’ll look into it lol.

[@Barundus]

I basically have a potato on a cut-off broomstick, and a duct-taped Nintendo 64 gamepad.

[@CakePrincessCelestia]

@Zeb I think I still got a spare Quickshot Pro somewhere in the attic... :D But well, the wayward simmer should definately go for an MS FFB2, a decent throttle unit and some pedals, especially when it comes to flying helos in DCS. And flying in VR does quite a lot. When trying to hover a Huey over the apron, I was all over the place... when I first tried it in VR, I actually was able to hover taxi along the lines out of a sudden.

[@ShuRugal]

at 1hr10m, talking about guys not using things like digital spot report... that feels like it could be the subject of a whole genre of military-humor comic pages... there were times that i felt like if the firearm were invented today, that the average US soldier would play with it for five minutes, then say "fuck it, i'll keep using my spear"

[@CasmoTV]

Lol

[@milesd3890]

Still laughing at this one!

[@SpearHead1011]

This thing has been showcased for the last year and still hasnt been released

[@CasmoTV]

It’s taking a while... 🙄

[@Happy-tp4jd]

Stuff takes time man.... Just like every aircraft

[@Reticuli]

cue the total recall lady: "Two weeks."

[@jmdesertadventures803]

All army birdbrain's eventually return to mother Rucker.

[@nymerie]

Well? Anything new about this?

[@CasmoTV]

You’d have to ask PC

[@nymerie]

@@CasmoTV I did. They don't respond. And that's a very bad sign :-(

[@amaydayhaha2413]

Does this module dead?

[@CasmoTV]

Don’t think so🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Happy-tp4jd]

Hey CasmoTV If you want you can join Speed And Angels DIscord its got a couple of pilots F-18,F-16,V-22, MH-53 Pavelow... and some others! here's the link we would love to have you discord.gg/td9qeqg

[@CasmoTV]

I’ll have to check it out. Would love to expand my discussions to other airframes and talk to pilots in the DCS community. Get some perspective on reality and simulation.

[@Happy-tp4jd]

@@CasmoTV Awesome cant wait to see you there

[@sterlingarcher4989]

No sign of it yet ☹️

[@CasmoTV]

It’s taking a bit...

[@RedTail1-1]

10s of people will probably see this... Well.. 28,000 people and counting..

[@CasmoTV]

Never assumed my channel would do as well as it has.

[@shadowwe5080]

Как не умеет летать ваш Газель, так и Кайова летать не будет! Херня!

[@CasmoTV]

That’s not very nice.