Kiram maintains $14.9-B arbitration ruling on Sabah Kiram

[@Jaysmith-xh2vz]

Being tausug sultanate of sulu I’m proudly finally we find justice for us tausug Filipinos please unite to support our homeland sulu

[@wasss3745]

Suportado kayo ng buong bansa sa pag claim ng SABAH❤ satin yan

[@roselitovillar9611]

@@secretagencyservices if you have proof then go ...ahahaa

[@Jaysmith-xh2vz]

@@roselitovillar9611 On Monday 11 July 2022, two subsidiaries of the Malaysian state-owned company Petronas, were seized in Luxembourg. Specifically, with the subsidiaries Petronas Azerbaijan (Shah Deniz) and Petronas South Caucasus, which manage the state energy company’s gas interests in Azerbaijan and could be worth more than USD 2 billion. Luxembourg, one of the countries party to the 1958 New York Convention, recognises and enforces the award rendered by Spanish arbitrator Gonzalo Stampa in Paris on 28 February 2022, which awarded the Heirs compensation of USD 14.92 billion from Malaysia. It is important to note that as long as Malaysia continues to ignore the ruling, the money owed to the Sulu heirs will increase. The arbitrator in France decided that for each year unpaid, Malaysia’s outstanding liability to the heirs would increase by 10%. Bernardo Cremades Jr (pictured), of the law firm B. Cremades & Asociados, which represented the heirs of the Sultan of Jolo in the arbitration, said: “The legal steps laid down by international law have been fulfilled. The next step was the recognition of the enforcement of the award in any of the 170 member countries of the 1958 New York Convention, and in this case in Luxembourg. Under this convention - to which Malaysia is a party - recognition and enforcement (and consequent attachment of property) could be sought despite the defendant’s objection. This risk was highlighted by the former Attorney General of Malaysia, who was in office for much of the arbitration and even sent 2 letters to the sole arbitrator, Stampa.”

[@boompanotpanotskie5042]

Sana mabawi nyo ang sabah mga kapatid na tausug at muslim

[@Jaysmith-xh2vz]

@@wasss3745 ang sabah saatin yan mga Filipinos Muslim man oh hindi

[@tonivillanueva5933]

Princess Jacel Kiram she's our idol, she have a very good heart and very talented lawyer studied in US. Beautiful and soft spoken. Proud of you as a Filipina, our good sister from Southern Philippines. We will support you and the whole Philippines will support you .

[@lorrainesilao-santos7539]

Kasi daw ayon sa mga Ibang mga political and law experts, State Immunity daw is not Absolute..And Malaysia was part of the 170 countries who signed sa New York Convention na State Immunity will be under Restrictive Immunity if that country will enter into a Commercial transactions.. Siempre kung may commercial interest yung bansa na iyon sa Ibang bansa at may nilabag sila, it will fall under Restrictive Immunity..Kaya their State Immunity is not absolute..Kaya na checkmate ang Malaysian Government dito kasi Kailangan ng I enforce yung ruling para mabayaran ang heirs ng Sultanate of Sulu..

[@denniscaquilala4668]

We support you Princess Jacel Kiram. Our government should be supporting strongly this claim especially by this time that a French court granted the ruling. We Filipinos should rally behind this claim.

[@whitesky8013]

Seems like ourmedi couldn't care much if you search this issue you would only find 2 videos recent compare to malaysia where in ther parliament is in panic i want this issue to be known to us

[@johncadorna4959]

@@whitesky8013 it is only our local media who doesnt make sensational comments on other countries and their foreign policies. But foreign media does and mock our government. Local medias are afraid they will get banned or visas denied from the countries they attacked. Since olden times our country has always been the birthplace of some traitors. From Spanish era up to now.

[@johncadorna4959]

With traitors I mean look at how the opposition exposed lies about the drug war and exaggerrated the deaths to 30K. It's an internal issue and should be resolved within. We also have Rappler's Maria Ressa who is the biggest badmouther of the Philippines to the International Community.

[@CubSATPH]

Agree but we can use Social Media Platforms too for this issue because Malaysian Govt. is not a friend its like a frienemy they smiling and hugging on us but they stabbing our own back many times over while supporting rebel group like MILF

[@jamesml8712]

This is between SULU heir's and MALAYSIA Philippines is out

[@taurene]

our government should recognize and honor the royal family in sulu just like united kingdom.... my great respect to this Princess Kiram

[@wojaktothemoon3324]

and make your country as Muslim country back again..

[@gamerdudegamerdude4961]

Well this problem wouldnt have started if the UK didnt mess up in the first place. So its their fault, Queen Elizabeth probably knows about this as she have lived how many decades now.

[@Longix69]

Marcos senior pa Recognizes Kiram as the hier of sultan in sulu. 🙂

[@joe8839]

WTF 😮😮 suddenly p Pinoy people want honor recognize Sulu Royal Family 😂😂 as same Great Britain also 🤔🤔 are u all sure l this people true Sulu Royal Family which for many2 long time ago fight each other for who really Sulu Sultan 😂😂..

[@sildeevillareal1569]

The proof that Malaysian government continued to rent it since 1960s and only cut off the payment only in 2013, proves that the government itself acknowledged that the Sabah is not theirs in the first place. Ps. The Malaysian parliament insist that they did not know that their government made annual payment to the heirs of Sultanate of Sulu

[@woozy96]

malaysian govt lying to themselves.

[@romeobarrameda2011]

Gago ka ba?

[@Xavier-fk7wm]

Saan kaya napupunta ung pera na sinabi nirerenta daw? Sa haba ng panahon ng pag renta bakit wala akong nakikitabg pagunlad sa sulu

[@richardranido377]

@@Xavier-fk7wm pinagsasabi mo s family ln nila un not for anybody else

[@millennialinmanila5621]

@@Xavier-fk7wm 5k plus mexican peso lang un or cguro mga 200k pesos lang. Sa family lang nila napunta un since pag mamayari namn nila un

[@danicananes2662]

The EPIC COMEBACK, the PAYBACK TIME, and the time of the PH

[@joey3080]

Trying to rob others land isnt payback, its pure robbery. Malaysia is in the act at the court ensuring sulu and the Philippines pay a hefty price. Considering this situation, all asean members should invoke the article of betrayal, entitled to kick Philippines out of ASEAN if deem necessary, which it is now. Sulu must get themselves ready for what we about to bring to them. Philippines better stay out of sight if they dont want to get the "Payback" as well.

[@bayrostibookalibutanresbak2588]

It is just a PROPRIETARY CLAIM ruling . It is not a Sovereignty claim ruling . It is not yet time for the filipinos to celebrate . Sovereignty claim by the Philippine govt is a long , long way to go . What if the descendants of the Sultanate of Sulu nowadays , after the successful claim of their property declares to drop filipino citizenship and will separate from the Philippines and will establisn a new nation ? ... What can our government do when they ( the Kirams ) are the rightful owners of that land ?

[@larrymadillo5463]

Kaka ml mo yan hahahha

[@arisasprah2100]

@@bayrostibookalibutanresbak2588 well i think thats why d30 and marcos want to create a federalismo. so that each state can have their own like a small country. sulu + sabah will be our main gas oil producer and other state something like that siguro ang mangyayare

[@ferdinandaniban2812]

Congratulations po sa inyong PANALO at SANA'Y mabawi na natin ang isla ng SABAH.

[@belramirez4228]

If we're talking a Commercial arrangement bet. the Sultanate and the British entities were the Sabah was leased back then, we can probably say that in its legal standpoint of view the Sultanate and its heirs has all the legal rights even if the Sabah territory was transferred to the Newly formed govt. of Malaysian Federation in the year 1962. The sovereignty can not be involved legally for transfer that's why the Federation of Maylaysia govt.was still paying the Sultanate the lease and its not a cessation money as Malaysia is claiming it was and therefore implying its sovereignty. Before the Federation of its gov't was created, the Sultanate of Sulu ceded and transferred their rights and sovereignty to the govt.of the Republic of the Philippines in the year 1960.

[@akak8299]

Sabah is what made Malaysia rich. Imahine the amount of oil that have already extracted from that area. Its time to turn it over to the rightful owners which are the Sultanate of Sulu

[@kerwtinkeros2641]

Nasa huli ang hulijg halaklak

[@akak8299]

@@kerwtinkeros2641 nope.. Who will enforce that ruling? They will need to attack Sabah and overthrow the Malaysians there. The Sultan of Sulu cannot just attack Malaysia, they have no military power. They will need the government arsenals and military to do that. Here's the question: Will BBM support the Suluans? Or will he be as coward as his father who simply gave up the rights on Sabah claim to Malaysia

[@napoleonbonaparte1260]

paanong naging mayaman eh poorest state ng malaysia ang Sabah. Paki explain,

[@akak8299]

@@napoleonbonaparte1260 sa Sabah po kumukuha ng langis ang Malaysia. Ang langis ang nagpayaman sa Malaysia

[@richardunica3542]

@@napoleonbonaparte1260 isa lang ibig sabihin dyan hindi kasi nila PAG AARI

[@erwinrowelboiser9563]

It should be the reinstitution of 1973 Philippines Constitution. It will easily help us regain our historic and patriotic properties in side and outside the Philippines.

[@ApaAbatar]

Lol.

[@skipah2012]

🤣🤣🤣

[@emblemg8610]

Tama..Kinuha kasi ang right to claim sa sabah noon sa 1987 constitution mga tanga kasi gumawa non..para kasi sa mga Negosyante at kaibigan ni Cory ang Constitution na yan.

[@ApaAbatar]

@@emblemg8610 lmao. Janjan Sankay University graduate.

[@jaydulaytibi1336]

Mayaman Sa kasaysayan Ang sultanato Ng sulu dating kaharian nyn Ng mga royal blood specially Sa kiram family.mabuhay ka princess Jacel kiram.mabuhay Ang pilipinas

[@MGAKAFRIENDS]

Mabuhay ang Sultanate of Sulu Mabuhay ang Sabah Philippines MABUHAY ANG PILIPINAS🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭

[@reycruz5566]

To those who died defending their land should be given justice. 🙏🙏🙏

[@abdulwahidmdtahir3660]

Yes, the 9 Malaysian security personnel were killed defending their country.

[@MANGYANSINGER]

They died because they fight the real owner of land or Saba which own by Sultanate of Sulo.

[@abdulwahidmdtahir3660]

​@@MANGYANSINGER, Sulu only claimed that Sabah was given by Brunei to Sulu as a gift for purportly helping Brunei fight rebels. But Brunei refuted this claim and denied ever having given Sabah to Sulu. There was NO DOCUMENT regarding the transfer of ownership of Sabah from Brunei to Sulu signed by both sultans.

[@MANGYANSINGER]

I think it doesn't matter either their is no document or has document of transfer of Saba ownership from sultanate of Brunie to sultanate of sulo for as long as British Dutch company recognise sultanate of sulo as owner when they sign a contract for renting saba from Sulo sultanate without opposition from sultanate of Brunie when both party sign a contract .is that not enough evidence whose the real owner.

[@abdulwahidmdtahir3660]

@@MANGYANSINGER , first of all there was no such an entity called British Dutch Company. This showed that you don't know anything. The Company involved was BNBC - British North Borneo Company aka NBCC - North Borneo Chartered Company. "....without opposition from Sultanate of Brunei...". Brunei didn't oppose because as the real owner, Sultan of Brunei had ceded the whole of North Borneo to BNBC on 29 December 1877 and it was documented. Concurrently Sultan of Brunei appointed Baron Van Overbeck the co-owner of BNBC as Maharajah of North Borneo and Rajah of Sandakan and Gaya. The above event was before the "pajak" agreement between BNBC and Sulu which was signed on 22 January 1878. This led to an overlapping issue on North Borneo. BNBC signed the agreement with Sulu not as a recognition that Sulu was the owner but just that they would not get into trouble with Sulu. Their main objective was to do business and exploit the resources.

[@carlodivinagracia7432]

Philippines flag with 4 stars Luzon, Visayas, Mindanao, & Sabah

[@Apek6503]

It should be a Sulu Sultanate Flag 4 Stars, Sulu Archipelago, maguindanao Sultanate, Visayas and Luzon. The word PHILIPPINES must be returned to King Philipe of Spain🤣. There were many innocent human being died because of this Spanish Term. Philippines Colonized Mindanao and Sulu forcefully, illegally against their Will and used Elpideo Quirino Colonization Act with the support of USA to carry out their Satanic Motive

[@lexiereigne5286]

Dba part ng Min sulu kaya mindanao parin sabah

[@leogura6580]

Borneo

[@kimrichard8276]

Sory..

[@kimrichard8276]

@@lexiereigne5286 Sabah is Borneo...

[@giasuper9665]

sa mga kapatid naming tausug dyan sa mindanao...congratulations!....malapit nang matupad ang inaasahan nyong magandang buhay!....mabuhay po kayo! fr southern tagalog.

[@jinxiaotian2853]

The decision of the Arbitral Tribunal was based on the evidence presented by the heirs of the Sulu Sultanate. This evidence was in the form of receipts paid by the Malaysian government as their rental "pajjak" fees to the land until it stopped sometime in 2013. The continued payment beginning in the 18th century until 2013 strongly acknowledges the ownership of the Sulu Sultanate of the Sabah land. Hence, this issue must be separate from what is being raised by the Malaysian government concerning "sovereignty". The heirs of the Sulu Sultanate can file a motion for the enforcement of the decision of the Arbitral Tribunal (monetary claims) while it awaits the separate issue on sovereignty to be heard pendente lite. The stay order filed by Malaysia is illegal!

[@menotbastart6123]

Yeah but Malaysia stop paying after the the sulu try to evaded sabah in feb 2013.

[@hisagony8094]

Well said. Sovereignty will be maintained and will apply also the EEZ nautical miles. Authority must be exercise and full control as to ownership of Sabah.

[@abdulwahidmdtahir3660]

"The stay order filed by Malaysia is illegal!". Why illegal? Who are you to say it was illegal? It was Court jurisdiction to grant the stay order.

[@yayeltv]

Congrats po Princess Jacel Kiram

[@Lupa736]

Malupit ang Malaysia they deport many FILIPINOS who are in SABAH..They thought SABAH as they own..

[@faizabasil9436]

Akala nila forever na silang makakalusot sa pag angkin sa Sabah..

[@fujiwarakatsumi2529]

Sulu and Brunei empire existed even before Malaysia and the Philippines had ever been recognize as sovereign nations. International laws and legal arbitration are executive and binding and the British government knows it. Put it simply Malaysia federation cannot just stop paying rent and kick out the original and lawful owner of Sabah just because the old sulu sultan died. The heirs of the sultan of sulu has full legal rights over the property left behind by their ancestors.

[@suskagusip1036]

Eh Tita marami satin dyan ng ee squat. Sa amin lng pumunta lng ako sa ibang bansa yon ngsipag contest yang mga neighbors mgsipagtayo sa loob ng lupain ng Tatay ko. Yong bahay na kawayan abay naging bato at nilagyan pa ng pader. Namatay na magulang ko sunarado nalang bahay. Ano kaya gawain ko? Susunugin ko ba o hayaan nalang?

[@MANGYANSINGER]

Mag file ka ng kaso sa ICC haha.nasa sa iyo na yon kung paano mo babawiin may korte naman tayo yon ay kung may titulo ka ng sinasabi mong lupa nyo .kung wala good luck na lang.

[@princetsa9547]

It is time for Malaysia to pay its dept to the sultan of sulu family and return sabah to the territory of the Philippines 🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭

[@joey3080]

Just a reminder, the french arbitral court enforced by stampa was ILLEGAL and Contradicts the laws. Dec 16, 2021 from the First President of the Paris Court of Appeal suspending the effects of the Exequatur Order in France and barring the claimants from relying on it. Stampa upheld the claimants' request in disregard of the suspension of the effects of the Exequatur Order. "Therefore, it follows that the final award rendered by Stampa on Feb 28, 2022 not only violates Malaysia's sovereign immunity but was also rendered in disregard of the Madrid and Paris court decisions. The Spanish Public Prosecutor has filed a criminal complaint against Stampa for serious contempt of court and professional intrusiveness, it said. It added that the Criminal Court N.40 of Madrid has subsequently started a criminal investigation in connection with the illegal actions of Stampa. "The Malaysian government will continue to take all necessary actions including legal actions to put an end to the claim and to ensure that Malaysia's interests, sovereign immunity and sovereignty are protected and preserved at all times,"

[@princetsa9547]

@@joey3080 at the end of the day PHILIPPINES is the rightful Owner of Sabah. and malaysia is a neighbor that wanted to take territories that belong to the republic of the Philippines 🇵🇭

[@johnj.kalachuchi6495]

@@joey3080 In simple words, land grabber.

[@randymariano2780]

Kiram family . . True owner . .

[@nativepinoyviands]

No the owner is the Republic of the Philippines

[@vladimircrausos7634]

🇵🇭SABAH🇵🇭, PHILIPPINES 🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭

[@newgenng6323]

We support you princess kiram.. laban lang

[@___Anakin.Skywalker]

I hope the Kirams get their money & the Philippines can legally stake a claim on Sabah.

[@shamshulanuar7718]

You mean UN recognition that Sabah as part of Malaysia is void?

[@___Anakin.Skywalker]

@@shamshulanuar7718 you're talking nonsense. History and legal jurisprudence has spoken that Malaysia stole and illegally annexed Sabah. It's all simple historical and legal facts, my brother. Don't twist and uiddle the whole scene.

[@___Anakin.Skywalker]

@@shamshulanuar7718 I dug the internet, and I found out you were peddling fake news. UN has not recognized Sabah to be part of the Malaysian federation. Their still is an ongoing dispute on the matter. This arbitral ruling win by Sulu sultanate further strengthens the claim that Malaysia illegally stole Sabah from Philippines

[@jaygonzales8258]

Just like Australia, Aboriginals are acknowledged as the rightful owners but they don't govern. Same with Sulu its their land but they don't govern, only difference is that the Malaysian government doesn't even acknowledge the rightful owners!

[@jaygonzales8258]

And if you want to go deeper the Malay side says they sold it and Philippine side says they leased it... Well you have to go back further when the Americans who originally obtained the agreement from the Sultan of Brunei (which BNBC would later administrate) and what it says.. a decade before the Sulu BNBC 1877-78 agreement In July 1865, the United States' Consul for Borneo, Mr. Claude Lee Moses, obtained from the Sultan of Brunei a concession which embraced most of the territory later to be administered by the British North Borneo Company ("BNBC"). Mr. Moses was unable to develop the concession himself and ceded the grant to the "American Trading Company" headed by the American Joseph Torrey with the backing of two Chinese businessmen from Hong Kong. With the financial situation of the company in a precarious situation, Mr. Torrey sought to convince the U.S. Government to take over the concession. When this proved unsuccessful, Mr. Torrey found new purchasers in the persons of the Consul-General of Austria-Hungary in Hong Kong, Baron von Overbeck, and the brothers Alfied and Edward Dent, two commercial agents who had founded the British company "Dent & Co." operating out of London and Shanghai. The new concession was an assignment of the original concession to the "AMERICAN COMPANY" (note the word company and the fact they were deal with commercial agents and commercial interests) But what does "concession" mean in terms on commerce, commercial agents and companies? -the right to use land or other property for a specified purpose, granted by a government, company, or other controlling body. "new logging concessions" or - a commercial operation set up by agreement within the premises of a larger concern. "the concessions will offer photo processing and a pharmacy" the right, given by a company, to sell goods, especially in a particular place. So we instantly understand that the concession obtained from the Sultan of Brunei by the Americans was commercial in nature and not a concession of land or property in terms of: - a thing that is granted, especially in response to demands. "the government was unwilling to make any further concessions" or - the action of conceding or granting something. "this strict rule was relaxed by concession" or - a gesture made in recognition of a demand or prevailing standard. "her only concession to fashion was her ornate silver ring" Furthermore: On 29 December 1877, the Sultan of Brunei agreed to issue three separate grants to Messrs. Dent and Overbeck encompassing a large area of North Borneo (some 28,000 square miles of territory) in exchange for a total annual payment of $1 5,000~~. (Since we know what "concession" meant in the original agreement between the American Consul and Brunei by Mr. Claude Lee Moses in 1865 it was for rights to trade and do commerce in the Brunei territories, the rights/concession of which would be later administrated by BNBC) We also understand what "grant" means in these above agreements between Dent and Overbeck. And they were not "land grants or sales of land" but grant in terms of making lawfully the Brunei lands available for the BNBC company to use. -a sum of money given by a government or other organization for a particular purpose. "a research grant" or - the action of granting something. "we had to recommend the grant or refusal of commercial licenses" Furthermore: Since this grant included a portion of territory along the east coast of Sabah which was also claimed by the Sultan of Sulu, Baron von Overbeck deemed it prudent to enter a separate agreement with that ruler as well. In the words of the British Acting Consul-General in Labuan, Mr. Treacher: "The Sultan of Brunei's territory extends, at the utmost, only to the West side of Malludu Bay, though formerly the Brunei kingdom extended as far as Cape Kaniungan, on the east coast, in latitude 1" north. (IMPORTANT PART --->)The remaining territory mentioned in the grants is actually under Sulu rule, and occupied by Sulu Chiefs, and it was only because the districts were Mentioned in the original American grants that they are again included, and Mr. Overbeck will now have to make a separate agreement with the Sultan of Sulu for them". On 22 January 1878, the Sultan of Sulu agreed to transfer to Dent and Overbeck for an annual payment of $ 5,000 a concession to the territory described as follows: ". . . all the territories and lands being tributary to us on the mainland of the Island of Borneo, commencing from the Pandassan River on the West coast to Maludu Bay, and extending along the whole east coast as far as the Sibuco River in the south, comprising al1 the provinces bordering on Maludu Bay, also the States of Pietan, Sugut, Bangaya, Labuk, Sandakan, Kinabatangan, Marniang, and al1 the other territories and states to the southward thereof, bordering on Darvel Bay and as far as the Sibuco River, with al1 the islands belonging thereto within three marine leagues of the Coast" Following these transfers, the Dent and Overbeck syndicate established a presence in Sabah. In early 1878, two "residents" were established on the west coast on the Tempasuk and Papar rivers and one on the east coast at Sandakhan Bay. I have proven without a doubt that these were "commercial grants" for British originally American syndicates, companies and commercial interests to use for an annual payment to use those lands for their commercial activities... after the companies left or disband the land would still belong to the Sultanates that gave them grants and concessions to use it.. These were not "land grants or sales of land in perpetuity" of any kind to the Americans or the British.. To look at it any other way is an attempt to steal,... and makes any other points null and void.

[@mariomovillon1613]

@@jaygonzales8258 Wow, I salute and thank you Mr. Jay Gonzales for that very concise and comprehensive explanations based on where, how and when it started, and what really and actually happened through the course of over a century and many decades thereafter. Including the clarification of the real definition of commercial grants which are 'not land grants for perpetuity' as referred to and inferred by in this agreement. I have learned quite a lot from your historical data research, and so much more about why Sabah is truly owned by the Sultanate of Sulu. And Sulu is legitimately under the domain and territory of the whole Philippine Archipelago.' I hope many could read and appreciate these historical facts also.

[@suskagusip1036]

@@jaygonzales8258 Salamat attorney, your arguments is genius. Malaysia is preparing to argue from the very bottom the word "Claim." Hope Princess Kiram has all the documents before they go back to court. $14.9 billion is GDP of Malaysia. Ano ibig sabihin buong Malaysia mapapunta sa Sultanate of Sulu kung hindi nila bayaran to? Kaya pala nkapatayo sila ng twin tower nayan at train nila tulad ng Disneyland kasi napakayaman pala ng oil 🛢 yang Sulu Sea nayan. How much more yang West Philippine Sea? Omg seguro mi ngpapatayo na mga kompanya ng oil dyan sa atin di lang sinasabi at tayong mga ordinaryo na mga mamamayan ginagawa nlang na mga tanga. Hindi tayo ang makikinabang kundi yang mga kompanya nayan. Hay naku kawawang Pinoy. I hope yang award ni Princess Kiram makatulong dyan sa bayan nila sa Sulu, Tawi tawi at doon sa Sabah. Ayaw bitawan ng Malaysia yang Sabah nayan kasi nadevelop na ng British company. Advance at magara yong city nila kisa Sulu. The whole Philippines is behind you Princess and your family. Praying for all of you to unite and make this award useful to your kingdom there. You are a priceless treasures to our Lahi. Sa kadami daming Datu, Sultan, Rajah natin kayo lang po ang matapang na tumayo at manindigan sa ating Lahi. Sa amin sa Visayas di na namin Alam kung sino, sino ang mga kamag anak ng aming Datu ( Datu Paiburong/Datu Sumakwil). God bless po sa inyo.🙏

[@jaygonzales8258]

​@@suskagusip1036 Note here: Lord Salisbury Foreign secretary on North Borneo to the Dutch Inquiry of the nature of the Overbeck and Dent concession/grant. In September 1878, Count de Bylandt, the Dutch Minister in London, handed a note to the Permanent Under Secretary of the Foreign Office, Sir Julian Pauncefote, setting forth the legal rights of The Netherlands~~. (Sir Julian Pauncefote between 1874 and 1899, was a British barrister, judge and diplomat. He was Permanent Under-Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs between 1882 and 1889) Pressed fürther by Count de Bylandt (the Dutch minister) with respect to the request for a Royal Charter by Dent and Overbeck and as to Britain's intentions concerning north-east Borneo, the British Foreign Secretary, Sir Julian Pauncefote superior Lord Salisbury, replied: that his Government respected the rights of the Sultans of Sulu and Brunei and did not intend to do anything in derogation of those rights. Lord Salisbury added: "Probably, even if our response to Messrs. Dent and Overbeck was favourable, Her Majesty's Government would not go fürther than was justified by the precedents of Sir James Brooke at Sarawak, or of those chartered commercial companies which in former times it had been the policy of this country to establish in various parts of the world without any aim of territorial acquisition. More importantly he goes on to say: "The object of Her Majesty's Government was not to set up any dominion, or to enter upon controversy with respect to territorial claims, but simply, if we saw an opportunity, to promote the development of the resources of the country under discussion"~ CLEAR STATEMENT IS MADE BY LORD SALISBURY FOREIGN SECRETARY OF HER MAJESTY'S IN UNAMBIGUOUS TERMS THERE WAS NO INTENT TO TAKE CONTROL OR RULE OVER LANDS ONLY TO DEVELOP LAND! FUTHERE MORE: In any event, the Netherlands Governrnent was not unduly concerned by the BNBC company's activities in North Borneo since, as the Dutch Colonial Minister noted in reply to an enquiry raised by the Parliament in 1880, this was "simply a question of the establishment of a private Company"(By the British). Moreover, the Minister felt that the Dutch interests had not been affected by the grants given by Brunei and Sulu (grants to develop the land not to buy or control or rule over them!) THE BNBC OWN CHARTER STATES AS FOLLOWING: The BNBC's Charter stipulated a policy of respect of the local customs and internal affairs. Historical studies of the BNBC's administration confirm that the Residents were carefùl not to interfere in the life of the indigenous populations. Notably, judicial administration over the natives was exercised by their own chiefs and headmen and carried out by the village courts in accordance with local customs. Similarly, the collection of taxes was carried out by local chiefs and other native collectors. In any event, even if the BNBC had wanted to carry out a different strategy, it lacked both the staff and the financial resources to administer properly such a vast and diverse expanse of land5'. - the charter states the judicial administration of civilians was in the hands of the local rulers not the BNBC, only the real rulers have right to decide judicial matters or tax people and did not delegate them to the BNBC (the BNBC was there to develop land not to rule and make judgments or tax people) malaysia have no legal ground to stand on even her queen majesty clears states through her foreign secretary of north borneo at the time with lord salisbury's statements to the Dutch about their grants in north borneo "The object of Her Majesty's Government was not to set up any dominion, or to enter upon controversy with respect to territorial claims, but simply, if we saw an opportunity, to promote the development of the resources of the country under discussion" therefore the grants given by the sulu sultanate are leases and even if they were not (which they were not) the queen did not want any of her representative or private and commercial charters GAINING ONWERSHIP DOMINION OR RULE OVER ANY TERRITORIAL CLAIMS IN THE AREA!!! FOR BNBC TO GO AGAINST THEIR QUEEN WOULD MEAN THEIR CHARTERS AND LICENSES REVOKED.... thus it was always a lease...

[@suskagusip1036]

@@jaygonzales8258 Salamat saan mo ba napulot tong mga to?

[@agatth]

Humingi sana ng support ang Sultanate of Sulu sa Philippine Government at makapangyatihang bansa para mapagbayad ang Malaysia at ma-take over na nila ang Sabah

[@chrysllerryu4171]

Its funny, when kiram try to take sabah, the philippine government didn't even help kiram's private army to claim sabah, the philippine government even announce that they have nothing to do about the invasion. Now that kiram's family win the case, the philippines now want sabah? are you for real? If malaysia pay that 14.9 billion to kiram family, they could create a new country of their own. they own the land, and they have rights to create their own country from it, instead of giving that land to the two countries who deny their ownage of that land.

[@kramrey5451]

Dahil yan sa traidor yung tatay ng presidente noon si Panot (RIP). Si Ninoy din dahilan kaya hindi natuloy ang pag bawi ni Pres FM noon sa sabah.

[@jigsnep]

Because invasion is not the right move to stake your claim, it costs so many lives. On the other hand, arbitration through international court is the right move, this is where we Filipinos and the government has helped and still helping the Kirams.

[@iankarldavid8836]

are you a malaysian?

[@jamesleetutorial5100]

Hindi ba talaga tinulungan? FYI Gobyerno ng pinas ang tumulong at gumastos para makapag-file ng kaso ang Sultanate of Sulu and Kiram Family sa Arbitration Court. wag magsalita kung kulang pa sa kaalaman okay?

[@ronnienestor]

The Philippine government did not support the invasion. War is not the answer. PH and MY have good diplomatic relations.

[@motherliberty]

Sabah belongs to the Sultanate of Sulu and the former is a subject of the Philippine Government, therefore the territory of North Borneo belongs to the Philippines

[@aruzcaldo1633]

@@secretagencyservices do'esnt matter, what is clear is the king of brunei gave sabah to sultan kiram, a private english company long before malaysia gain sovereignty honor the rightful owner by leasing sabah to sultan kiram, malaysia even continued leasing it until 2013...abide by the ruling at once...period

[@dxdkaiser8519]

Me right na kayo para mapasainyo na ang Sabah, suportado kayo dahil isa kayong Pilipino....... Mabuhay kayo mga tausug!!

[@richardunica3542]

@@secretagencyservices luxembourg court basis .

[@fidprudentialbsn45]

brunei only gave a small cost sea land to sulu back then bcse sulu helping the brunei that time, idk where you got that brunei gave all sabah to sulu, history tells that sulu only lives on side map of sabah near sea, and that claimed is 100% expired after sabah join malaysia

[@zackyfleibel7043]

@@secretagencyservices he wasn't the founder, there was a marriage between the two sultanates to tighten the bond, and so on. keep dreaming bro, I'm tausog and I know. we do have historian and museum here. if you want you can visit to understand better of the sulu kingdom, SULU ARCHIPELAGO IS THE MOST RICHEST LAND IN PHILIPPINES IF THE GOVERNMENT PAY ATTENTION TO, BUT THE GOVERNMENT TREATED US LIKE OUTSIDER AND TERRORISTS, MY SUPPORT GOES TO THE SULTAN KIRAM AND HIS FAMILY THE ROYAL BLOOD NOT TO THE PHILIPPINES, THEY ABANDON US FOR A LONG TIME, ONLY PRRD GIVES US SUPPORT BUT NOW HE'S NO LONGER THE PRESIDENT SO I VOW MY SUPPORT TO SULU SULTANATE.

[@rusydirusydi3029]

*MANILA ACCORD August 5, 1963* (Sabah still belongs to Sulu Sultanate) Was signed by: 1. Tengku Abdurrahman (Malaysia) 2. Diosdado Macapagal (Philipina) 3. Soekarno (Indonesia). *Content of the agreement.* Based on the context of attachment of UN General Assembly 1541 (XV), number 4 principal 9, and evaluation of UN Secretary General (at that time held by Bhutan); the three countries, Malaysia, Philipine, and Indonesia HAVE TO WAIT SABAH STATUS DECISION BASED ON TERRITORY OWNER VOICE (FROM SULU SULTANATE), OR RESULT OF LOCAL PEOPLE VOTES IF SULU SULTANATE WITHOUT BEING FORCED HANDED OVER THE DECISION OF SABAH STATUS TO LOCAL PEOPLE WHICH WOULD BE SUPERVISED BY UNITED NATION; because it is related to law order of territorial tenure or decolonization (on the basis of rent document as a proof, SABAH IS NOT BRITISH COLONY, or IS NOT OWNED BUT RENTED BY BRITISH, SO THAT SABAH IS OWNED BY SULU SULTANATE, and BRITISH HAS NO RIGHT TO HAND OVER SABAH TERITORY TO ANOTHER COUNTRY). Generally, INTERNATIONAL LAW, decision to certain Sabah status (attachment of UN General Assemby 1541 (XV), number 4 principal 9) MUST BE BASED ON ONE OF THE ALTERNATIVES BELOW: a. give back Sabah teritory to Sulu Sultanate as the owner of Sabah, or b. (if) Sulu Sultanate without being forced handed over voice right to local people for voting Sabah status certainty, then the decision of Sabah status would be certained by one of the following choices: - join to Malaysia or - join to Philipine or - join to Indonesia or - establish a new country. BUT MALAYSIA DIDNOT OBEY THE AGREEMENT and IGNORED UNITED NATION RULE ABOVE through DECISION TO ESTABLISH FEDERAL STATE OF MALAYSIA AT SEPTEMBER 16, 1963; ANNEX SABAH WITHOUT RESPECTING THE OWNER VOICE, OR LOCAL PEOPLE WILL (if Sulu Sultanate handed over the decision of Sabah status to local people) AND WITHOUT RESPECTING UNITED NATION RULE ABOVE THAT WAS COMMITTED IN THE AGREEMENT. This Malaysia’s decision ignite anger of two countries (Philipine and Indonesia), so that in 1963 Philipines and Indonesia cut off diplomatic relations to Malaysia, and was followed by conflict and confrontation by Indonesia that was called “Ganyang Malaysia” at that time. Generally, INTERNATIONAL LAW (based on attachment context of UN General Assembly 1541 (XV), number 4 principal 9), enforces rule that TAKING OVER A TERITORY TO BECOME A NEW COUNTRY MUST BE OBEY THE RULE BASED ON ASPIRATiON (VOICE) OF THE TERRITORY OWNER’S DECISION. IF NOT, THEN THAT TERITORY IS PERMANENT BELONG TO THE OWNER. Because British was not the owner (rent document as a proof), then SABAH IS STILL OWNED BY SULU SULTANATE (British only as a renter to Sulu Sultanate according to agreement). SULU SULTANATE AS THE SABAH TERRITORY OWNER HAS THE LAW RIGHT TO DO ANYTHING RELATED TO HIS OWN TERRITORY.

[@devolutioninc]

The Kirams getting that amount hopefully will help their people as well.

[@geronimogepollo1396]

They should build the sultanate of Sulu as Autonomous region under PH

[@devolutioninc]

@@geronimogepollo1396 Good Idea. I volunteer to Sultan. Now for my 4 wives.....

[@chuanshuoraro7568]

Ang laban ni Princess Jacel Kiram ay laban ng Pilipinas. #SabahPH

[@macmilanbuot8838]

Kamo ra wla mi apil anah 💪💪💪💪

[@denniscaquilala4668]

I am pretty sure Malaysia will not follow at all cost. Sabah is their biggest asset. Because of Sabah, Malaysia became wealthy. Therefore, we have to strengthen our military might because the only way to get it back is by force. However, when this happens, the oil resource of Sabah can no longer be used as West and EU's will prohibit to use fossil-fuel. Whatever happens anyway we have to get it back.

[@kokey101dugong7]

Kakainin sil ng buhay ng AFP natin. Pero tama ka. Ma dugo yan if mangyari. Pero for sure. Di nila ibibigay yan. Best solutions jan i think is dapat e sunctions sila ng mundo para maibalik ng di ma dugo ang sabah.

[@mik-miklukaran3300]

Force tma ka giera is the key

[@alainepistola5878]

so what Malaysia get out idio

[@woozy96]

DIPLOMATIC IS THE KEY. wag kayong eng eng jan.

[@alainepistola5878]

@@woozy96 hahahha nakailan diplomatic pero ayaw ng malaysia tapoa sila pumatay sa sundalo ni kiram?? wow

[@johantaharin491]

Paris court of appeal hv 'stayed' the ruling of enforcing the earlier ruling as it break the terms of the law(infringe) the countrys sovereignity,(ie exercise of power by the state under intl law)

[@yayeltv]

It does not apply to the other 169 countries

[@jigsnep]

Malaysia's true color.

[@marldonitzblietzkrieg8923]

that so called princess cant answe properly regarding the actual history of Sulu and Brunei History…even the claim crossed the whole Sabah while the actual claimed area was consist of east coast of sabah untill the eastern most of kalimantan was included🤣🤣

[@SilentMOS]

ok means i don't care 😂

[@sulitngaba8672]

It’s because he isnt alive by that time. Others can explain it lol.

[@rural.craving]

True. When Sabah was about to join the newly formed Malaysia, nobody ever bothered to ask consent from her ancestors. Instead, the referendum called Cobbold Comission was held for the people of Sabah to give their consent to form Malaysia. UK even granted the people of Sabah for self governance on 31st August 1963. Seems the announcer also have doubt if it was lease or ceded agreement.

[@marldonitzblietzkrieg8923]

@@SilentMOS why you should care since you’re not living in sabah like me?

[@marldonitzblietzkrieg8923]

@@sulitngaba8672 who is he?

[@iamart5911]

Nakakaexcite pumunta sa Sabah na parang Maynila lang. Congratulations po.

[@princecor2108]

Pupugutan ka doon ng mga Tao at sa tingin mo papayag mga nakatira don?? Parang Abusayaf din ugali mga malaysian

[@MrJeszam]

Goodluck if welcone ka don. Haha

[@jjtzlofttv2390]

Di nmn nila basta basta bibitawan ng mga malayshit yun

[@zugamacyt9515]

Hanggang hindi pato nakoha sa Philippines hoholihin parin tayo dito kolong nang 1 year or 2 year bago ma deport sa Philippines kakain tayo nang tangkong na galing sa likod nang c.R at ang isda naman potol na isda na segarelyo na isda 😂😂

[@zugamacyt9515]

Maya na kayo ponta dito pag mabawi na talaga nang sultan sulu or Philippines 😂 mainit sa malaysia ang pilipino i mean galit sila sa atin

[@ivanfritzagustin6343]

Mabuhay Po kayo Madam Princess supportado Po kau Ng mamayan natung Filipino mapa Muslim man sila oh Christian.

[@milingjr9504]

sa wakas!unti unting nababawi ang sabah!sana suportahan ng gobyerno!

[@hafiezalejai4141]

MALAYSIA WIN AGAIN IN THE HAGUE COURT!!!🇲🇾💪💪💪

[@crazylittlebigthings]

5300 ringgit/66000 pesos for that huge land? Talk about one sided. How come they let that happen. The sultan of sulu shouldn’t have let that land be leased in the first place. This is the worst transaction i’ve ever heard.

[@pwen9024]

Old agreement yan malaking pera na yan dati Kaya gsto bawiin ng pamilya ng sultinate yong Sabah kasi Hindi lumalaki yong Renta gsto Rin ng pamilya ng sultan na Ang pilipinas Ang makikinabang sa Sabah Hindi Ang Malaysia.

[@nightbotisahuman7388]

Pinilit kasi ng mga British ang Sulu at nagleche leche yun pagkkalagay sa kontrata. Nakalagay kase sa wika nila ay "rent" pero sa mga briton ay "cede" o mapupunta sa kanila ang teritoryo. Gustong ibawi ng Sulu pero may traydor

[@jewisegaming9005]

Indeed

[@millennialinmanila5621]

Kapal ng mukha diba. Oil ng Sabah nagpayaman sa Malaysia tas bayad lang ng Malaysia sa may ari kakarampot. Ni ndi man lang umabot ng 100k

[@crazylittlebigthings]

@@vijnana1900 alaska is just ice nothing in there. Compare that to sabah rich in oil and resources.

[@adelcorona7393]

I am wondering when Pnoy became president, Mar Rosas talked to one of their brother and they said they want to suggeat to the elders about leaving Sabah, and then that time 2013 the Malaysian stopped paying. Did Pnoy tried to give Sabah to Malaysia?

[@arcibagaw6161]

I think its part of the plan, Pnoy let the Sulu people to attack Sabah in purpose of reclaiming it in 2013 but we all know that they are no match to Malaysian Army. This attack triggered the Malaysian government to stop paying the rent in that year onwards. If only Malaysians continue paying the Sulu Sultanate, they will not be brought into court. From the time they stopped paying Sulu sultanate heirs(2013) until today, it is worth 15B dollars and it will continue to increase if they dont pay us. Thanks to PNOY

[@belramirez4228]

Yep, ktulad din ng gnawa ng Tatay nya c Ninoy naging legasiya nla hindi interes ng Bayan ang pinapairal. Tatay nya tutol sa nahing plano sana ni FM na mbawi ang Sabah noon, kya ng dahil sa exposei nya na Jabidah massacre kuno kya nagkaron ng Muslim separatist sa Mindanao nong 1970's ugat ng dahilan ng MNLF.

[@adelcorona7393]

@@belramirez4228 tama, namimigay ng lupa ng pilipinas, at sigurado ako ma binayaran sila ng Malaysia under the table

[@millennialinmanila5621]

Your fake news wont do any good.

[@adelcorona7393]

@@millennialinmanila5621 really fake news? It's all over news in 2013, Pnoy literally called out Kiram Family and told them to leave sabah, and labeled them terorrist group. Didn't you know that many pilipino died there in sabah when they were labeled as terrorist? And Pnoy ordered military to hold Kiram's forces in sulu to not go to Sabah to defend it. Pnoy wanta them all dead so Malaysia can have the Sabah. If want link of multimedia news about it I can send it to you. Stop worshipping liberal dum dum.

[@duainejazel2343]

As for the history that reaveals, it was "leased"long time ago and up to now from the sulatanate of Sulu, it should be paid for the amount of 5K pounds by the british north borneo co. of UK. Then it was change to 5300 ringgit far from the actual price of leasing by Malaysia. So the heir princess maybe shocked by not paying them as in a real price by BNBC. Surely the interests of it goes highs it was blown out to 14.9 Billion dollars or maybe pounds. And that's a huge payment for Malaysian gov't. They must pay it or else may get sequestered of their some assets such as Petronas. Now the princess and families demanded that Sabah must be taken back to them and to the Philippines for the rights to govern again smoothly, non payment of it will give them a great concequences..

[@duainejazel2343]

@hopelope1703 You visit Sulu and the Philippines, sure you will know the true story. The Sulranate of Sulu and his heir Princess is the true benificiaries of Sabah, don't get bitter because that is the truth... UK, Eu, and France holds the truth about it. Just pay our ancestral tribe and owner🤩🤩🤩🤩👍🇵🇭

[@leonardmichaelmarkrandrup2375]

Just pay off the heirs

[@hamdankaramin3953]

It's also good if the Filipino people have learned to accept Princess Kiram as the true ruler of the Philippines. it is good that the presidency is abolished and princess Kiram becomes the legitimate ruler of the Philippines and the Philippines becomes an Islamic country. a good start for Filipinos to accept Islam, Allahuakbar!!!

[@lauricebganna663]

Not a good Idea either... We got different cultures in every point of this country... Let alone the heirs of the sultanate be the one to rule over to their claim lands under the Philippines constitution.

[@hamdankaramin3953]

@@lauricebganna663 , if you already consider her as the rightful ruler's princess, of course she will demand to be the rightful ruler of the philippines.

[@hamdankaramin3953]

​@@lauricebganna663 , of course princess kiram and her followers will claim to be the next ruler of the philippines and will make the philippines an islamic country

[@lauricebganna663]

@@hamdankaramin3953 haha, that's not gonna happen. Im not against her, in fact I support her rights over sabah but your Idea is just something beyond imagination...

[@lauricebganna663]

@@hamdankaramin3953 before the occupation of foreign occupiers, every part of the Philippines is already ruled not only by the kirams.

[@merceditajarabejo1327]

Congrats Kiram fight for your right You have the paper of ownership.In any court you will go it will be recognize.

[@hafizrazak467]

Jika Sabah bersama Filipina, secara geografi Sabah lebih maju & jaya dari seluruh gugusan kepulauan Filipina. Itu antara sebabnya kamu berniat menuntut Sabah. Jika sebaliknya Sabah itu sama keadaannya rakyat kepulauan sulu, pasti kamu tidak akan ambil peduli. Kenyataan kamu bersekongkol menggunakan segala tipu helah juga alasan tidak berasas. Sejarah mengajar kami agar lebih baik dari hari semalam.

[@ronaldramos2559]

God bless People of Sulo , especially Sultanate of Sulo and Princess Jacel

[@erwinrowelboiser9563]

Our sovereign Rights can only be regain and reinstituted if our 1973 will be re instituted again. Even our claims to spratlys islands.

[@bosswaraydailylife5557]

sakupin na natin handa kami mga waray makisali para tulungan ang mg tausog na muslim

[@princecor2108]

Maute nga nagtatago ka mga taga malaysia pa kaya

[@baraniradiamoda4229]

Kw lang tumolong sa kanila

[@bowlampar]

Seizure of the 2 subsidiaries assets still can't make up for the $14.9B arbitrary ruling figure. Sulu Sultanate heir still need to look else where for the differences owe by Putrajaya.

[@fathiizzan]

Dang , Imagine the living cost of Sabahan and their state of economy if Sulu won Sabah. Can't imagine the people in Sabah will be oppressed, living in slums and forced to eat papag.

[@kangkung998tauge2]

Keep on dreaming. Mesia stategy is speak softly but carry a big stick. Why not PH recognised the sultan sulu’s sovereinty first. As for the so called arbitrator, Stopa, he’s being charged on criminal procedure for the so called ruling. Next..

[@kerwtinkeros2641]

They just rented sabah and stop paying is wich makes it worst...

[@johnyxxx12]

PH don't even recognised Sulu Sultanate sovereignity in the Sulu Archipelago which is Mindanao and Palawan 😂.The Sultan don't claim Sabah on behalf of the PH but for himself

[@alaehvlogs5676]

We support sultanate of SULU.. get what is yours👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻

[@kishuinupower9163]

Congratulations!

[@GaryHField]

The Kadazan natives would conduct an uprising if Sabah will be handed over to the Philippines. They don't want to be part of the Philippines. That's why they voluntarily joined the Malayan Federation in 1963 and become an official Malayan State.

[@3991IohcTub]

Then bring it on.

[@sulitngaba8672]

Lol so be it

[@taglavis]

When its Commercial in nature, arbitration doesnt have to have two participants.

[@ljhaypanergo]

We support all the heirs of sulu sultanate. Mabuhay kayo.

[@datuaidilindal5933]

Maraming salamat po,thank you,terima kasih,magsukul.

[@erichrandomstranger1243]

There's a win-win situation here that we can aim for. The Malaysian Government can continue leasing the land and pay the Philippine Government and the Philippines in turn under the constitution must also give the Heirs of the Sultanate of Sulu a part of the lease. The Philippines in turn must get shares in the natural resources in Sabah as well as the income. It's a win-win situation. Malaysia can keep Sabah in exchange for the annual lease payments. The Philippines can get shares from the Natural resources and the Sultanate of Sulu can earn money.

[@phildefnews]

Di nagbayad ang Malaysia mula 2013 kaya binabawi na Sulu ang Sabah..Kyng gusto nila ituly ang renta ksilangan nilang mabigay ng tamang renta base sa income ng Sabah hindi yung dating agreement na barya na lang ngayon.

[@bracketsrivetshousedesignc8123]

Tama na. Kung ganyan pa rin mangyayari, mamamatay na lahat ng Filipino ngayon, di pa rin nasasapasa-kamay natin ang Sabah.

[@katsan9155]

The thing is the annual lease payment should be in Mexican gold currency like how the Brits paid before the lease was transfered to Malaysia, and Malaysia paid in ringgit which was sorely lacking and was only tolerated to avoid dispute. The last straw was when they stopped payment altogether. The coin was supposedly a Mexican gold coin not ringgit.

[@anthonypaule638]

Nagbabayad sila ng renta pero less than 100k per year. Mahal pa renta sa apartment.

[@zekefister8294]

The original lease contract from 1878 is now null and void. The Philippines, along with representatives of the Sulu Sultanate, should renegotiate a new lease for a commensurate amount that reflects the actual value of the natural resources being extracted from Sabah. That way, Malaysia retains its "sovereignty" over Sabah, the heirs of the Sulu Sultanate get paid a significant sum every year, and the Philippines government receives capital gains tax on that lease money paid to the Sultanate.

[@bracketsrivetshousedesignc8123]

'Kala kasi ng Malaysians patuloy nilang maiisahan mga Filipino. Matinik ine!

[@toniimperial8393]

Sabah Sulu Philippines!🇵🇭👍

[@mohamadzakimohamadsaad7776]

Poorly Philippines government not recognised the sultanase legacy how come you want to take Sabah from Malaysia what a jokes

[@marvzbarrameda]

Congratulations to the Sultanate of Sulu, especially to the Kiram Family! 👏👏👏 *Malaysia is Checkmate by Sultanate of Sulu's heirs, for not paying rent since 2013 *Sulu Sultanate descendants win over Malaysia at French arbitration court *Malaysia need to pay $14.9bn for the descendant of sultan *Petronas oil company Malaysia state own seize at Luxembourg LUZON, VISAYAS, MINDANAO & SULTANATE OF SULU = PILIPINAS 🇵🇭

[@raymanbalatinsayo13]

We support the Sulu heirs their victory will be the whole Pilipinos victory!!!! PBBM for sure will make an action about this because FEM really want to claim this because of our legal documents and the operation Mardeka that was form by the current President father.

[@socratestrinidad3863]

Kaya na butata ang plano sana na paglusob dahil mayron isang Filipino nag TRAYDOR na MORTAL na kaaway ni FEM sa politika na nag ambisyon na pumalit sa kanya, at bago pa ma isagawa ang paglusob ay ibinisto na nya sa Malaysian govt, at nabigyan pa ang ULOPONG na yun ng Malaysian Citizenship na nag ngangalan MARCIAL BONIFACIO na ginagamit nya pangalan sa kanyang pasaporte.

[@joey3080]

Just a reminder, the french arbitral court enforced by stampa was ILLEGAL and Contradicts the laws. Dec 16, 2021 from the First President of the Paris Court of Appeal suspending the effects of the Exequatur Order in France and barring the claimants from relying on it. Stampa upheld the claimants' request in disregard of the suspension of the effects of the Exequatur Order. "Therefore, it follows that the final award rendered by Stampa on Feb 28, 2022 not only violates Malaysia's sovereign immunity but was also rendered in disregard of the Madrid and Paris court decisions. The Spanish Public Prosecutor has filed a criminal complaint against Stampa for serious contempt of court and professional intrusiveness, it said. It added that the Criminal Court N.40 of Madrid has subsequently started a criminal investigation in connection with the illegal actions of Stampa. "The Malaysian government will continue to take all necessary actions including legal actions to put an end to the claim and to ensure that Malaysia's interests, sovereign immunity and sovereignty are protected and preserved at all times,"

[@joey3080]

You do realize the documents has fully expired after the cobbold mission in the 90s where the people of sabah voice out and form Malaysia. Philippines already respected the result, but this stupid sulu raise it again and influence your government to involve. Now, you must realize that your country, like it or not is close to an inch of going to war with Malaysia. That is something you dont want to have with Malaysia.

[@addamrobin2]

Next time don't send your armed followers to attack Sabah

[@wisemeoww]

Philippines government need to act on this. Sabah is part of the Philippines. It's very clear that sabah was rented by Malaysia before.

[@ardaqs2694]

mabuhay ka Princess Jacel Kiram... Sana pagmakapunta ako ulit jan na wala ng passport maraming talagang pilipino jan na nagsalita na ng malaysian language, pati ako natoto na rin. maganda talaga dyan maayos ang ekonomiya... walang gulo.

[@junjungarapan4297]

Kung pwede lang Sana magkaroon Sila Ng posisyon sa govt TAs Kilala in Yung sultanate nila para nmn respect sa history Ng mga ninunong pilipino

[@khaeltwotowns6612]

Exactly, pwede bigyan ng Philippine government ang Sulu Sultanate ng permanent seats of the Senate and Congress as respect and token of acknowledgement that they have been an integral part of our history and culture

[@A.d.O.n]

dapat talaga di tinanggal ng kapangyarihan ang mga datu at sultan

[@rahimarahima4709]

I love the Sultanate of sulu ,thats belongs the filipino people,also belong the MAHARLIKA KINGDOM OF GOD LUPAH SUG EMPIRE

[@lover-oj3xk]

Anong lupah sug empire ka jan

[@alanvinas4304]

From SAIPAN US 🇺🇲 And BIKOL REGION suportado ko na maibalik sa sultan ng sulo o sa pilipinas Muslim o Christian ang SABA 👊👊👊👊

[@Rhythm_and_Flow]

Kaya pala nung elementary ako halos lahat ng Philippine map natin lagi kasama ang North Borneo (now Sabah) sa picture.

[@ernestopobladormosquera6336]

Ok 👌👍😊😘

[@freeyourmind2187]

The problem is how the ruling from a court in one country is implemented in another, will Malaysia allow it?

[@Mr.Crabbb]

That is how abritate work....

[@phildefnews]

France has the right to seize Malaysian assets inside thier territory and give it to Sulu Sultanate heirs to complete the 15B dollars they were supposed to pay.

[@rexvaldez5710]

they will bankcraft if they dont follow the law sanction will follow

[@ernieesteban1045]

Congrats!!! 🎉🙏

[@itsme_mocha]

This ruling is not legal. There are certain criteria need to be met before a case can be brought to arbitration court and as for now, the criteria are not completely fulfilled.

[@neoab8608]

Even if you don't go to the court. It's a simple logic. Why Malaysia was still paying rent until 2013 to the heirs of Sulu Sultanate? The moment they have started paying the rent is already a justification that part of Sabah is not part Malaysia and is in fact owned by Sulu Sultanate. As per the Malaysian MPs, they tend to belittle their neighbouring countries and also the Sulu Sultanate because it is not a governing body anymore. Another logic, is it acceptable when the renter is saying he owns the property he is renting?

[@itsme_mocha]

@@neoab8608 It was not a rent. It was cession money. It had been like that since Overbeck & Dent. The Sulu sultanate never challenged the wording in the receipts. And majority of the people in Sabah agreed to join Malaysia, confirmed by Cobbold Commission. And only 2 presidents of the Philippines recognised Sulu sultanate yet wanted to claim Sabah which clearly contradicting. And the decision made by Stampa is not legal because he was already annulled by Madrid. Focus on the welfare and harmony of the people and nation rather than making attempts to claim other people's country which can lead to wars and loss of lives.

[@neoab8608]

@@itsme_mocha how come its a cession money? It's a rent money. I got your point. War is not the solution. Pajak is a rent money. The Malaysian Federation was paying RENT until 2013 for 5300/53000 ringgit. The ruling was to pay the just amount for renting the land. You can also ask the sabahan, they all know from different generations about the history of Sabah that the Sabah is the Sulu Sultanate's land. If we trace the root cause of this... These British made a mess again.

[@itsme_mocha]

@@neoab8608 prior to any claim made, ensure the evidence is justified. Pajakkan to British means to grant and cede. This is supported by Najeeb Mitry Saleeby etc. This word is stated in 1878 agreement. However in 1903, Sultan Jamalul Kiram II signed a document with a phrase "kita telah keredai menyerahkan kepada pemerintah British North Borneo". This is not something that only Malaysia and the Philippines know. This is a history known by many historians throughout the world. The sources are easily available in the Official Gazette of the Republic of the Philippines website. And the Sabahans had already agreed to form Malaysia together with Malaya instead of the Philippines and that is their stance even now. Even UN confirmed this. Everyone can bring evidence but it must be a sufficient, relevant, comprehensive, and reliable one. If not, even Indonesia can claim Borneo today because of Majapahit's history.

[@itsme_mocha]

@@neoab8608 also if North Borneo really belongs to Sulu till now, then why not the Philippines give their leadership to Sulu in order to reestablish the sultanate? Why not start at home since some of the heirs are Filipino nationals rather than trying to claim the land of other nation? Why only 2 presidents of the Philippines recognised them? This is illogical and irrational.

[@66paksoy]

Mabuhay Ang Sultanate of Sulu..

[@erwinrowelboiser9563]

Hurrays DIVINE JUSTICE IS MOW SERVED TO THE REAL HEIRA OF SULTANATE OF SULU. SALAAM ALEKUM

[@datualip1401]

Salaam brother Sa palagay ko me alam ka sa Tunay na Sa sabah ang tunay na kiram heir. Kong me alam ka Replay mo ko at usap tayo

[@kalocotv1125]

We still have a real Filipino royal blood 💕💕💕long live sultanate of sulo

[@bukagon]

Palakas ka AFP at makiisa lahat ng pinoy na muslim...pinoy ang dugo natin...Muslim lang an Malaysia...Gyera lang solusyon para mabawi ang Sabah...

[@ramonnaguita8596]

This amount is is just a fraction of the Oil and Gas extracted daily in the Island SABAH is producing 100 k barrels of Oil and Gas Daily or 1.3 million barrels a month.

[@zarizx3]

Its rediculous to even think off. The ppl of Sabah shall decide on how and who to govern them. well they had vote in favor to join the Federation of Malaysia in 1963. Ironically, its somehow the same thing like China assertions over vast territories of SEA with their historical claim but this dysfunctional Sultanate doesnt even get recognition. Unless there r hidden hands that constantly stoke the good relationship between neighbour.

[@gamerdudegamerdude4961]

Nah! Its more like when the Brits leased Hongkong from China then returned it after they left.

[@zarizx3]

@@gamerdudegamerdude4961 yes unfortunately they refuse it. Same goes to China's claim over Taiwan which they too refuse. Its not too hard to understand. Its ppl who decides it in the end

[@gamerdudegamerdude4961]

@@zarizx3 Thats because the West has put their puppet & brainwashed youths to go against their country folk just like in HK. Destabilizers where funded by the West just how rebel groups or certain politicians in PH are funded by outside to destablize the country.

[@Puck_Official]

I know the History of Sabah.. it's a Gift from Brunie Darusalam

[@tech-help-people2357]

im christian andito ako sa saudi mahal ko ang mga muslim at tausog kaya 100% supportado ko kayu diyan.. para sa inyo talaga diyan.. mga kabayan..

[@Lupa736]

Right, We need to restitution the 1973 Constitution to claim our territory.

[@arserniayoung5355]

July24,2022 Congrats: Princes Jecel Kiram in the Sultanate Sulu Filipinos🇵🇭👑🫅👸👨‍👩‍👧‍👦. In the 🍵 ☕️ Sabah Philippines 🇵🇭 Soldiers. From the 🍵 ☕️ Brunai . ❤️😍😷

[@erickgamboa501]

Checkmate now malaysian govt. Should pay the sultanate of sulu heirs what rightfully theirs or else the sultanate can claims all the asset of petronas around the world including the NYC stocks

[@taiwanbelongstochinaforeve3118]

Wow I feel bad they were cheated. They should pursue this

[@amavic1]

Before it was named Quemoy and really a part of China. Chiang Kai Sek, escaped the mainland during the green revolution of Mao Tse Tung and occupied Quemoy, and renamed it Taiwan

[@offlimits194]

Grabeh ang hirap na pinagdaan ng family nila bawing bawi sila sa panloloko ng Malaysia dekada inabot.

[@hafiezalejai4141]

MALAYSIA WIN 🇲🇾 💪💪💪

[@MarkCams]

Too much greed will cause a lot lives.

[@dxdkaiser8519]

Congratulations to sultanate of Sulu, support princess Kiram.... Laban lang!!

[@viverrine1580]

What's the Philippine government's part or doing in helping them?

[@bluemiles100]

Wala, waiting for corruption lang. Alam mo na yung bantay salakay na mga magnanakaw

[@lover-oj3xk]

Babalik na ang sulu state at mgiging independent na ulit mababalik na ang sariling bansa ng mga sultan ng sulu

[@jamesleetutorial5100]

Impossible. Hindi yan mangyayari may kasulatan na at pinirmahan ng Sultanate of Sulu and Philippine Government na magpapa-under sila sa Philippines and wala na silang magagawa dun.

[@kristinaargosino1546]

It’s about time, please give and pay back the Sultanate of Sulu, we’ve been waiting for this moment, please give it back and pay the Sultanate of Sulu, We love our neighboring countries as our President says Philippines is friends of everyone and enemy to none, but give justice to the Sultunate of Sulu.

[@abdulwahidmdtahir3660]

The Spanish Arbitrator Gonzalo Stampa's action of bringing the Sulu claim case in Paris Court when Madrid Court had already made decision in favour of Malaysia was seen by Spanish judicial authority as "Contempt of Court" and "Professional Intrusiveness". Following this, Stampa's appointment as an Arbitrator was revoked and annulled by Spanish Court. His arbitration award to Sulu of US$14.92B compensation was also annulled. Criminal proceeding was also taken against Stampa. Sulu and Stampa tried to appeal in higher Spanish courts but failed. And finally Spanish Constitutional Court upheld lower courts' decisions revoking Stampa's appoinment as an arbitrator and annulling his arbitration on Sulu's claim. On 11 December the rogue Arbitrator Gonzalo Stampa was changed in Madrid Court for "Contempt of Court" and "Professional Intrusiveness". On 8 January 2024, the court found him guilty and was sentence for 6 months imprisonment together with a ban from practicing as an Arbitrator for a year.

[@volvol6542]

So sakop talaga ng pilipinas ang lugar na yan ang sabah tapos magbabayad pa ng 14.9billion dollar bah? Wow congrats

[@MarkEdisonAlviz-official]

In Fact, yes. Sa katunayan, ang Sultanato ng Sulu, nand'yan na, wala pa ang Pilipinas.

[@aldrenasibal1782]

Mabuhay ang sultanate9f SuLU❤❤❤

[@Lupa736]

Thanks to Heavenly Father and Heavenly Mother SABAH will return to the Philippines.

[@charlespadamada5979]

Anu stand ni BBM???

[@rolandogallardo3640]

It started with the word pajak in Malaysia where the translation was rent then change to payment to own really confusing