Kirk Herbstreit wishes Brian Kelly handled leaving Notre Dame for LSU differently | College GameDay

[@keithpicou6172]

College football set up this scenario by putting in an early signing day

[@michaelmurphy7477]

The media has seemed to forget this fact

[@noahblair9514]

Exactly

[@jefftee448]

To be fair, the whole point behind an early signing period was to allow players to enroll early in spring. I think that's a good thing for everyone involved. How it's affected these coaches changes is obviously a nasty unintended side effect.

[@robbiewhite2351]

This is exactly right. How is this lost on Herbie?

[@lightingbolt8148]

Kirk do the same thing with Lincoln Riley.

[@mikehaynes1769]

Pollack shot down Herbie right he was done with his soapbox. No head coach has ever waited till after the bowl game when leaving for another team. None.

[@A100-y2c]

Could he not have waited until the 4 playoff berths were set? He said himself any team could win on a given day, so why not wait a week & potentially go after the Natty? He worked toward that for 12 years...! Weird stuff.

[@reidwilson7674]

@@A100-y2c okay and the early signing period is less than 2 weeks away so he should have just set up there prolong his previous employer and staff to go and sit around a program that he knows he's leaving to see if they're going to get a playoff berth and then set his recruiting class back a year or two because he wasn't going out recruiting as soon as he got the job yeah make that make sense to me

[@s216674]

@@A100-y2c Before early signing was implemented he could have, but not anymore. Plus, the media leaked it anyway, so would it have mattered if he tried to wait?

[@bshank007]

No way. I can’t believe Brian kelly would do this. It’s not like he has done anything like this before when he was at Cincinnati and left his team right before their BCS game with Florida. Oh wait. He did that before and he did it now. He’s as fake as his accent.

[@s216674]

Herbie can lay off the high horse for a while. 1) since early signing day happened, this was always going to happen. 2) the media leaked that he was leaving, so even if he did want to try to see things through, he couldn't have. 3) You personally have a history of reporting on coaches taking new jobs before they are public, one time on the morning of the SEC Championship game, for a coach who's team was playing THAT DAY. 4) If Brian Kelly was leaving for USC, no one would be up in arms at all.

[@chrisssss4116]

Nobody: Brian Kelly after arriving at LSU: *casual new southern accent*

[@movo2060]

His accent will change, it happens, but he is trying to fit in now. Can't blame the man 🤣

[@nickpitera7891]

@@movo2060 Fugazie

[@vincechan455]

He's there with his fam'a-ly.

[@reidwilson7674]

Why TF do any of you care ? Oh that's right you looking for something to complain about

[@chrisssss4116]

@@reidwilson7674 nobody's complaining we're laughing cause it's funny lol

[@christophercrosby7454]

I get why he left and I agree he handled it poorly. Lincoln Riley did the same thing if not worse and no one says anything. Kelly at least faced his players after the news came out. Riley just dipped out and gets zero criticism.

[@reidwilson7674]

Bro there's no real great way to handle that situation considering the fact that the NCAA is the one who put these coaches and players in these predicaments because of their greed for money 💰moving up the early signing period so what was he supposed to do sit there and stay with a team that's already outside of the playoffs who doesn't even play a conference championship game prolong his situation where he possibly can lose a good percentage of new recruits that he has to go out and get to fulfill his job there is no easy way people just choose to want to act so sensitive about this situation

[@christophercrosby7454]

@@reidwilson7674 I totally agree. That’s why you’re seeing and will continue to see coaches get fired earlier in the season so they can get people in place before the early signing period. Huge mistake moving that up so early. I’m a Notre Dame fan and BK did a awesome job there. LSU got a amazing coach. My only issue is that if he’s going to get judged for how he handled it Lincoln Riley should too.

[@justinsullivan5839]

NCAA could fix this, but they don’t want to. As a ND fan, I’m stoked. Kelly did all he could. Now Freeman is going to bring a championship to south bend!!

[@christophersuswal9544]

You know I can recall Herbstreit on Gameday shortly after USC fired Helton saying that Brian Kelly would be a great fit for the Trojans HC. He finished with "that's all I'm gonna say!" It stuck with me all year because I could see BK leaving for the NFL, but NEVER for another college program. I believe hes def an insider and knew of the discontent between Kelly and Swarbrick before most others did

[@yaquvyhardson3768]

Like Desmond said, it’s always about the money

[@DB-qc9br]

I mean, if it was, why didn’t he let ND attempt to counter? Could’ve gotten similar pay to stay at ND more than likely. They’re loaded.

[@theknightswhosay]

The media and the recruiting rules didn’t let him leave in a different way. Herby tried to ruin LSU’s national championship season before championship week in 2007.

[@mikeplata3134]

When is Gameday's segment on Riley in the way he left OU? Oh he left for USC, so it's cool. Blame the NCAA for the timing of these coaching changes. The early signing period means if a coach wants a new job at a big school, he better take it by the first week of December to give him at least 2 weeks to solidify the current recruiting class. You can't wait until after bowls anymore. Most recruits don't wait until February to sign nowadays. And to you who are saying it was just about the money: Why didn't he wait for a counter offer from Notre Dame? He could've let both schools get into a bidding war for his services, but he didn't. He knows he can't win a championship at Notre Dame. LSU gets better recruits, has better facilities and Kelly knows that money will never block him from getting an assistant. He thinks he's squeezed as much out of the lemon as he can at Notre Dame. He just won't say it publically out of respect for his former players and school. Now he's getting trashed because he wants to coach the best players with the best support and the best facilities while coaching against the best coaches in the best division of the best conference. How dare he want to surround himself with the best. We all should strive to challenge ourselves against the best of our peers. At least he wants all the smoke in the SEC West and didn't run from it like Riley. 🙄

[@mikeplata3134]

@Malik Will Riley was recruiting players and coaches from OU to USC while still on OU's payroll. Yet no one in the media criticizes him for that. They're worried about if Kelly is a cultural fit, yet never ask the same about Riley to Southern California. Again, blame the NCAA. If Kelly waits until Notre Dame finds their playoff fate, LSU probably moves on and hires someone else because the early signing date accelerates everything.

[@mannyc4539]

Kirks input really don't matter Kelly is going to make LSU consistently great.

[@frederickwright1060]

kirk is a sanctimonious tool

[@rtanner7335]

LSU is fixing to be a juggernaut again in the SEC west is what he said. That’s just a different way to say exactly what you just said Manny. He’s not questioning weather LSU will get better in the slightest.

[@nickpitera7891]

Brian Kelly’s legacy is that he is the only coach at ND that got away with manslaughter Scott free.

[@movo2060]

Money talks

[@nickpitera7891]

@@movo2060 yeah, Blood money…

[@ginobling1828]

I’m not tripping on the southern accent at all !! Just comes to show he wants to be here he wants to be at LSU. He wants to fit in and be part of the LSU family culture at all means and I respect him for that

[@tigergirlkita]

I didnt hear it but it's likely a trip over your words type thing when you're trying to project your voice but whatever. People will make a big deal out of anything especially those who either didnt like the hire or like that he left for LSU

[@A100-y2c]

Brian Kelly, quote (2009): "There's a football coach, and then there's the football coach at Notre Dame." Apparently the mindset has changed from what was a "dream" and an "honor." Maybe *dropping every big game* had something to do with it.

[@DB-qc9br]

Notre Dame wouldn’t have sniffed those big games if it weren’t for him lol

[@k.c.6846]

Made it to the BCS twice and the CFP once. That would be three big games, where are all these other “big games”? You mention he won’t beat Smart, Smart has done nothing but drop “big game” after big game, so where is your logic behind your post? Orgeron (idiot) beat Fisher and Smart, who drops big games, I wouldn’t crown Kiffin, Fisher and Smart as the best coaches bud, that’s reaching and your the dreamer for that post. I wouldn’t matter if LSU hired Bill B from the Pats, you would say he wouldn’t win. Your a typical hater that makes ZERO sense.

[@whodatn4l948]

Two top ten wins in back to back weeks and on his way to a potential SEC West title in his first year. It wasnt Kelly, it's the ND program. ND doesn't get all the elite talent because of strict academic standards and being frozen to death all winter.

[@sirthomas00]

Brian Kelly did the exact thing to Cincinnati, when left them for Norte Dame before their bowl game. This is nothing new for him.

[@reidwilson7674]

Okay and it's a business what part of that don't y'all understand he's not trying to do this to them kids but the NCAA has put him in a awkward position

[@theknightswhosay]

Kelly didn’t have the option of coaching notre dame’s next game.

[@logandihel]

I absolutely love seeing Ol Crimson flying high at every GameDay. Go Cougs!

[@DB-qc9br]

Umm…do Riley and Napier get a pass on “the way they left” for some reason? He has to get there and start recruiting, assessing & assembling an entire staff…Freeman was coming and ND had to promote him out of desperation.

[@edszewczyk]

Kelly’s great coaching staff will not include any of his great Notre Dame coaches, all of whom chose to stay at ND.

[@frederickwright1060]

they skeered

[@rtanner7335]

I can’t say I blame Marcus Freeman. He now has a Head Coaching gig. Kudos to him for bettering himself.

[@jefftee448]

They promoted a current coach. Of course they're gonna stay. Not a big deal anyway, the dude has been in the profession for 30+ years. I'm sure he knows a few non-ND coaches.

[@A100-y2c]

@@frederickwright1060You will be running scared of Saban/Jimbo/Kiffin/Smart/Sark/Venables ---- enjoy your wins over Vandy & S. Car, that's about all you'll get in the conference. Sorry LSU fans but we gave Kelly 12 seasons, where are the big wins he promised to deliver? He's not dumb, he has a big buyout coming in a few years.

[@frederickwright1060]

@@A100-y2c still butthurt..whod a thunk it. willingham 2.0 is going to need your support. i suggest you do you

[@rajbanwait325]

Callin' Baton Rouge, nice!

[@Paul-uc8qj]

Brilliant hire by LSU and move upward for Brian Kelly! Kelly a proven winner at every school he coached. No chance of a National Title at Notre Dame.

[@BLS1976PACHAPTER]

I believe in Freeman only one assistant left to join kelly btw

[@DB-qc9br]

@@BLS1976PACHAPTER not everyone wants to leave the comfy sofa to run the SEC gauntlet. Not surprising. You believe in Freeman bc you have to…less than a year and being promoted to HC for the first time bc he was going to follow Kelly to LSU? I don’t think there’s a better example of the word desperate in Webster’s.

[@BLS1976PACHAPTER]

@@DB-qc9br well I guess we shall see who is riding who

[@shylomcfluffy5873]

Kelly did the same thing to UC Bearcats when going to ND, so why is anyone surprised?

[@HamiltonProvonsha]

“It’s definitely about the money.” Well said, man. 👌

[@SuperSparrow45]

It's interesting how Pollack mentions that Kelly left to go to LSU because he wanted to coach with players that are equal talent to his competition. Yet, it seems like ND is recruiting at a much higher level since Marcus Freeman took over. Reality is that Kelly wanted to go somewhere that he didn't have to recruit hard to get elite talent. Marcus Freeman, on the other hand, prioritizes elite recruiting and holds his staff accountable for landing elite recruits. And, what do you know? ND is suddenly the #1 recruiting class in 2023 as of right now. Imagine that. Maybe if Kelly put in the kind of effort that Freeman is putting in, he'd had that "equal" talent to work with.

[@wayneasiam65]

It's all about the Benjamins. And Ego.

[@lisabayhi6241]

It wasn't his fault it got leaked

[@grobble8954]

NOTRE DAME is not a marquee job. You have a delusional fan base with nostalgia of greatness they expect not realizing they were dominant in an era when Army was also considered a powerhouse.

[@robertrodes1546]

:) True. But true because that's what coaches have instilled in the culture, including Kelly. There's no reason Notre Dame can't be great again, so long as the coaches and players believe they can be.

[@kissalive2]

Eh sort of Lou won alot and got a national championship but I don't remember Army being a powerhouse in the 80s but I agree with the first part of your statement.

[@grobble8954]

@@kissalive2 You're delusional if your think they were a powerhouse under Holtz..5-4 bowl record over 11 years. Only won 10 + games 5 of 11 years. Mythical championship in the poll era where they didn't have to face the supposed #2 team. ND overall has not won a major bowl game in 25+ years

[@kissalive2]

No I'm not he won 100 lost 30 but you missed the point. Nothing I said was incorrect.

[@A100-y2c]

@@grobble8954 Holtz' 1993 team beat #1 FSU and finished with the same record -- easily a 2nd natty. Look at the dominating '89 team as well. The reason they've struggled is 12 years of Kelly. Anyway who is your team, Bama will slip badly when Saban retires.

[@craig9605]

NCAA should remove the early signing period

[@hwyman01]

Kirk.... dude, you know exactly why he had to leave when he did. He had no choice

[@brianjirish]

Brian Kelly is a Politician. Good coach but an even better Politician. Good luck LSU. GO IRISH!

[@KaminJohn]

100 million would make anyone a good politician T boy 😂

[@viv1d]

Nobody cares how he left especially anybody at LSU.

[@mattrider822]

How about ND Nation! We are getting ready to find out if we play for a birth in the Championship! To ND Nation it matters! He could of waited a week or two to finish the mission!

[@robertrodes1546]

If he leaves LSU that way in three years, people at LSU might care then.

[@A100-y2c]

@@robertrodes1546 Exactly Robert, LSU is swinging for the fences -- but if they've whiffed, it will a costly thing with BK benefiting

[@dmatt2284]

How exactly does someone handle something with early signing period an a school saying it’s now or never.These media people are idiots and Notre Dame doesn’t want the coach exiting to talk to the players longer than he has to they don’t want them leaving to go with him

[@barryjohnson5288]

What about Lincoln Riley? Is he a snake in the grass too? Because the media is covering them both differently, and he did the exact same thing. Double standards much?

[@geauxtigers5172]

And then took all their best recruits to USC, probably recruiting for USC while employed at OK. But no, Riley is a saint and Kelly is terrible

[@barryjohnson5288]

@@geauxtigers5172 and why do you think that is?

[@A100-y2c]

@@barryjohnson5288 A couple of things here: the Sooners are out of playoff contention so it's not the same situation. And Kelly has had a long 30+ HC career, no doubt he has rubbed some media members the wrong way over so many years. BK has also said his AD lied, where most people in the know believe instead BK has been caught in lies.

[@carolineurban4920]

Rumors were coming out of Columbus that OSU wanted Freeman, Mr Herb Kirkstreet upset that it didn't happen.....

[@trekaychris6263]

I'd love to hear what Kirk has to say about how Saban just left Bama.

[@PeteyThePanda]

What is there to say? The man retired two days after their season ended and won 9 conference titles and 6 national championships in 17 years. He’s 72 years old and has more than earned the right to ride off into the sunset.

[@Kenjayfan55]

I absolutely love comments that age like milk on a Memphis sidewalk on July 4th. ESPN's SEC bias is gossamer thin.

[@steelcitystorm]

Kelly didn’t go to LSU because their is better talent, he will have a better selection of talent with less academic restrictions. Comon get it correct

[@tompacker4196]

1:33 "You haven't seen head coaches do that". Umm Scott Frost anybody

[@jefftee448]

He meant going back and forth b/w jobs to coach Bowl at old school and recruit at new school.

[@paulcarberry9489]

Does anyone else thinks he looks like Tommy Boy in the Blue Sport Coat

[@A._J_.]

Brian Kelly wishes Kirk Herbstreit bought a toupee with a natural looking hairline.

[@easton838]

Him leaving doesn't guarantee wins period.

[@DB-qc9br]

Nope. All speculation. But in terms of LSUs previous coaching hires…he’s as close of a home run as they’ve come. I just hope he can bolster our OL.

[@easton838]

@@DB-qc9br When Les Miles left he was in the top 5 of active coaches and they let he go. Nothing is guarantee from Kelly.

[@DB-qc9br]

@@easton838 Top 5 of active coaches in what perspective? He inherited a championship program and rode it into mediocrity. He was fired* (didn’t leave) and for good reason. He was also turned down for other coaches jobs. Kansas just did it as a media stunt. Kelly was sought after and already HC of a 11-1 Notre Dame program. You can’t even compare the two situations.

[@easton838]

@@DB-qc9br You said Kelly was a home run ...and i said wins aren't guaranteed ...based on wins and losses he was LSU's best hire ever ..letting miles go was a chance ..he still was a good coach at the time it was a gamble that paid off..hiring Kelly is No guarantee he will win a Championship he couldn't do at ND.

[@DB-qc9br]

@@easton838 “as close of a home run” meaning there is always speculation things don’t work out. Letting Miles was hardly a chance. He underperformed in every facet of the game, his clock management literally lost them multiple games, & his off-the-field issues with coeds led to the obvious choice of firing. Again, the two are hardly comparable situations. Apples to oranges

[@dennisryan6370]

Maybe Herbstreit could start crying....over what he doesn't agree with. That would be ideal to me!

[@movo2060]

It wasn't his fault how they found out, 11 minutes talking to them and bouncing is odd. If I was a football player, I wouldn't be sad, but happy for him. I can't say I wouldn't do the same. Just put your self him situation. Money talks.

[@grobble8954]

Sorry in the modern era coaches leave as soon as they can. They want to recruit new players & to reassure any 5 star players that may have already signed or verbally committed under the previous coach to not reopen their recruiting.

[@BLS1976PACHAPTER]

If notre dame doesnt have the same talent as LSU then how did they beat LSU not once but twice in a bowl game

[@genewilliams245]

It’s not the coaches it’s early signing system. Change the early signing period its bad for players and coaches.

[@PastorBradRocks]

I am so looking forward to the day with the MISNOMER that ND doesn't have/can't recruit the same talent at the "-all powerful" SEC is exposed for the falsehood that it is... that day is oming! In a way it's a massive insult to insinuate that only dumb kids can be great football players...

[@DB-qc9br]

That day will be when they join the SEC. Til then…nah

[@grabert7383]

but he has no problem with riley going to usc

[@lsurouge]

Kirk H would moon the camera and walk off the set if Fox Sports offered him $100MM to leave ESPN.

[@k.c.6846]

Desmond Howard just made zero sense. Kelly didn’t have the players at ND, that LSU will provide for him. When ND played the SEC schools in the CFB playoff, he lost, he will now have better players. Of course he will play against the same level players each SEC game, which I think he knows the SEC isn’t CUSA. He made it to the CFP with average good players, he will have an opportunity to get above average players. Get it Desmond?The sky is blue, it’s dark at night etc Desmond.

[@A100-y2c]

If you think Kelly will beat Saban/Kiffin/Fisher/Smart you are a big dreamer. Which is fine, but you have to take stock of the reality -- or hope another Joe Burrow is coming.

[@k.c.6846]

@@A100-y2c oh one other thing, rent free all day.

[@josephhale9198]

😵 once Cincinnati beat him you had to know he was gonna crawfish outta notre dame

[@javierdu5473]

could be best head coach tigers had ever had

[@josue24]

Brian did this to Cincinnati when he ditched them for notes dame. This is what he does!

[@inhotpursuit1788]

Lsu hiring Saban from the north? He fit in.

[@youngw.a.r2709]

He better call out Lincoln too. Lincoln is a snake and Oklahoma is better off with a 3 time national champion in brent Venables who is a defense recruiting machine heading into SEC

[@coreyrogers5358]

His defense hasn’t been able to stop ACC teams all this year. They weren’t all that great last year neither.

[@miked1254]

Blame early signing.

[@ethanknifsend9775]

It’s definitely money

[@gregmoore5823]

And he’s won what ????

[@jobyclauson6184]

Totally agree with Herbstreit, disagree with Pollack. So do the facts. Scott Frost did EXACTLY what Herbstreit said when he was Head Coach not a coordinator at Central Florida and coached them and took the Nebraska job. And ND is a Christian school. I forgive care but come on leadership and biblical success is different than worldly success. One lasts forever the other burns up. Who really made the right investment in what matters? Thanks.

[@jobyclauson6184]

One sacrifices self to serve God, others, a higher purpose. Another puts self, money, worldliness, above God and others.

[@jobyclauson6184]

Pride and ego and money is a factor. Pollack is wrong, and covering his tail and others because he would do the same thing. Others don't, won't, like Herbstreit, Corso.

[@jobyclauson6184]

Also Pollock's tone body language towards Herbstreit and accusatory words dismissive was not classy or the same respect Kirk showed him. Shows a lack of maturity and defensiveness and projection on his part. Pride, anger, bullying may work temporarily on a football field, in a studio show, not in heaven, the kingdom of God, Christ, healthy relationships or eternity.

[@jobyclauson6184]

Manipulation is when ppl choose to blame u for your reaction to their disrespect; so they don't have to re-examine themselves and possibly make a change which takes humility + more difficult work on self.

[@drumusic5665]

Dude talking about talent like ND doesn't bring in just as good if not better than LSU and ND has been putting out more Draft picks. But sure talent was the issue

[@Tony-rz4ks]

Brian Kelly only challenge will be beating Georgia and Bama that's its.. the rest of the teams are like the teams ND plays...average. He will have a very very very hard team beating those 2 teams. Lets stop pretending SEC all the teams are top dogs or dominating teams.

[@Royalwar0305]

It's really bama. Because UGA has lost to LSU the last few times they played

[@A100-y2c]

What about A & M and Ole Miss? I think both are far better than "average."

[@John_Hoover]

@@A100-y2c This year. Going back over the past 5 years, A & M is averaging about 4 losses per year and Ole Miss over 6. Hardly elite. Kelly at LSU will be dominating them in short order.

[@robertrodes1546]

@@John_Hoover Yeah, but that's to S E C teams! Clearly, you know nothing about college football.

[@ProdigalBeard]

Kelly's a good recruiter, a better recruiter than he is a coach. We'll be aight with Freeman

[@phillipcusic6599]

Actually the opposite bro Kelly is a better coach than recruiter. Freeman was our recruiter we will be better without Kelly

[@EulogyfortheAngels]

@@phillipcusic6599 you literally have no idea of Freeman is head coach material. Tons of talented coordinators don’t pan out as coaches. The majority, actually.

[@phillipcusic6599]

@@EulogyfortheAngels With all that you just said even if true. It still does not negate the fact that Kelly was a better coach than recruiter and that’s facts. The 22 and 23 yr recruiting classes are a result of coach Freeman and there is no debating that.

[@canefan17]

It's a business - who cares?

[@bartleygorman3546]

Kelly will do fine at LSU, but he will not win a national championship. If yesterday is any indication Bama is so much more talented and well coached then LSU is and it ain’t even close. And the reason is they have deep respect for saban that Kelly won’t get at LSU, because he won’t be himself.

[@ihikebc2295]

Les Miles won NC at LSU and so did Ed Orgeron, who beat Alabama at Alabama just a few years ago with (slightly) less rated players than Alabama's. It can certainly be done.

[@lisabayhi6241]

Quit talking culture, WINNING IS ALSO LOUISIANA CULTURE COACH O WAS LOUISIANA CULTURE AND THAT ENDED IN A DISASTER

[@A100-y2c]

Coach O brought you a National Championship, quite a disastrous coach.

[@donovanthibodeaux9781]

Let me hand u 100mil and see if u take it or leave it

[@markswanson4682]

Pollack is nuts, don’t get it TWISTED. BK LEFT ND FOR $100-MILLION DOLLARS. Anybody who tries to peddle ANY other reason is a FOOL.

[@ironhead3494]

You seem so sure of yourself. Yet, ND’s AD said that Kelly gave them no chance to counter. You know what that means? It means, it was more than about money. It was about championships, and he’s seen 3 different coaches do it at LSU in the last 18 years(2 of which were mildly retarded, and that might be a slight towards the retarded). ND hasn’t won a championship in 33 years. When BK did get y’all there in 2013, the talent difference was obvious, and that hasn’t changed. He not only wants to make it to the dance, but actually have a chance to win it, and that’s what LSU can offer him that ND cannot. One of the most fertile recruiting grounds in the country without the high academic barriers that are in place at ND. ND is the better school academically, hands down. No discussion needed. However, LSU is the better football school now. Hands down. No discussion needed.

[@Bears9McMahon]

Sellout

[@Waywardwulf]

Cry us another river emasculated Herbstreit. That would be "ideal". Perhaps you should cover women's volleyball.