Toyota Corolla Cross HYBRID Review - Best in Segment, but AVOID this trim...

[@tancar2004]

I have a Corolla Cross Hybrid. Same trim and that color as that one. I've had it for 8 months just hit 5000 miles today and I like it. I came from a Corolla hatchback and I liked that I could haul stuff when needed but I didn't want to move up to the RAV 4. I don't disagree with anything you said. Certainly it's not perfect but it's comfortable. I can drive it for 2 weeks and fill it up for less the $30. I live in the snow belt and the AWD is surprisingly good when the road is slick. First time I was stopped at an intersection trying to turn a corner with snow on the ground and I hit the gas and the car just moved with no problem I was shocked how easy it that was. Yes it's pricey but I came into some money recently and paid cash for it and I'm gonna drive it for 10+ years and I'm not going to have to worry about it.

[@Grizzzly.]

how's ur experience with the MPG? What about seat hight for confort? how's the take off in it?

[@melanielewert7566]

​@@Grizzzly. I too have the same model and trim. I didn't want a black, white, or gray (any color gray) car, so I got the Acidic Blast (gold). It's a little high for people with really short legs, but it's really comfortable and love the heated seats that not only do your bum, but also your back. My current overall mpg is 42.2. Not as good as my old priest, but better than a lot of cars that are this size (or smaller). It's 2ft shorter than the Camery I was looking at, which is huge when you are trying to park in the City. Tons of space for hauling. Small enough to park in a compact spot. As for take off, it's decent. Not as fast as an all electric, but when I'm trying to try on the freeway front of another car (not electric), I can decently out peace them. I've had the car since February and love it. No second thoughts, and there is no issue finding it in a crowded parking lot--though sometimes it hides behinds other larger SUVs.

[@frazergeno4557]

​@melanielewert7566 My question to you is how is the ride over bumpy roads. I have back problems and want to stay away from a stiff suspension. . Thanks in advance.

[@marcprobin1659]

Toyota should put an option for a spare tire. I own a 2023 Prius and installed a spare tire using OEM parts and everything fits nicely which replace the foam under the cover.

[@user-lj5ri3gp5o]

That's a great option for some of us. Was there a cross referencing database for the OEM parts in putting together the spare tire package?

[@beebs4881]

The motor for the real wheels appears to intrude into the space normally used for the spare. I need to have a spare tire where I live (Atlanta roads are horrible)

[@bjsimon802]

weight

[@Cathy-xi8cb]

The heat from the car and from the cables will risk weakening the tire materials if you store the spare in the space. Think carefully about what that means.

[@Flying-Fox19]

Just place the spare in the trunk and cover with a wheel bag for those long trips. The boot space is large enough as its not a sedan. I know its not ideal but hey it's better than having no option at all.

[@andrewng6059]

Great review, I bought the hybrid XSE for my wife as a city car. She mostly use to drive the kids to/from school, music/sports lessons, groceries, errands, shopping etc. The car's loud at high RPMs but that's expected from a compact car. But for city car, this is perfect. I'll also add one thing I like about this particular hybrid is that the the high-voltage hybrid cable is located in tthe trunk, where the spare tire supposed to be. You sacrifice the spare tire at the expense of the cable getting rust and corrosion after few years. If you google Toyota cablegate, you will see the current hybrid design (RAV4, Venza, Highlander etc.) all have serious rusting issues after 2-3 years and it is costly to fix ($5-6k). This issue is more prevalent in areas with heavy snow (salt used on roads or heavy rain fall (moisture trap inside the cable housing) and will cause serious corrosion to the cable due to the design where the cable is underneath the car. Because I tend to keep my cars for long periods of time, I want something that's reliable which is why I got this CC hybrid. All in all, I'll summarize in few bullet points 1. Great fuel economy 2. Good city car, good for daily errands 3. Hybrid cable design is more reliable compared to other hybrids like the RAV4, Highlander, Venza 4. The transmission is a e-CVT, not the traditional CVT Overall, If you are not an aggressive driver, not picky about handling, cornering, just looking to get a good reliable car from point A to B. This is the car!

[@hariranormal5584]

No offense, but you kind of type like a AI. Drop the > I'll summarize in few bullet points > Overall, If you are not an aggressive

[@AnonymousHippo5]

Am I the only one who thinks the black plastic around fender flares, sides, front and rear bumpers is a bad idea? The plastic will not look very good after a few years because the plastic will fade in the sun. Seems to be a trend with newer cars, but I am not into a plastic look of cars/SUVs.

[@chuyzzt1252]

The whole point is to protect the paint, especially on something like a wrx which is suppose to be a rally car(which not many buy it for that), there are products that help with the plastic to keep its color and look but I don't think many want to buy more detail products then they already need

[@AnonymousHippo5]

@@chuyzzt1252 Also detailing a car where the paint meets the plastic is VERY time consuming. It is hard to keep polish/compounds/wax off the plastic. Taping off the plastic on a car just adds another step.

[@swishy4mbg]

It’s the most insulting “rugged look” aka cost savings excuse I’ve heard of. Always looks terrible & only gets worse over time, on every single vehicle. Just stop it already.

[@bunmeng007]

Its for protection. There is product u can apply to protect and make the rubber shine

[@looneytunes105]

Actually the plastic trim and dark gray.. which makes it even worse

[@tradukilor2]

I am so glad you are not recommending the XSE grade. More XSE available for us who disagree with your recommendation. Point to me a RAV4 that has those options in the Cross XSE for that price. As far as I am concerned, having a power hatch door, heated seats and power driver seats are requirements for my age and climate environment. On the RAV4, you need to reach the Limited model, which starts at $40K

[@ericswon1130]

Hello! Power lift gate, heated seats and power driver's seat is available on RAV4 XLE.

[@tradukilor2]

@@ericswon1130 Hello! That's $36,820

[@JF-xq6fr]

Man, you know Kirk thinks it's meh when we don't get some sweet LFA v10 rev after the intro.

[@joshm9003]

I like the color. Better than black white and gray that seem so common.

[@toronado455]

I agree with Kirk to go for a lower trim on this. Even the base S, if they were avaialble. Good point about not offering a 2WD hybrid, but I wouldn't want the solid rear axle. Only if they made a 2WD hybrid with the IRS. I hope there will be a new UX with more interior room. I would consider that.

[@rightlanehog3151]

While I agree the lower trims are the way to go, I want AWD. These Hybrids produce so much immediate torque that the front wheels would constantly slip on rainy days and in inclement weather.

[@toronado455]

@@rightlanehog3151 that's a good point. what I'd like is a new Lexus UX that is basically a much more refined Corolla Cross in terms of size.

[@rightlanehog3151]

@@toronado455 As long as the Prius has a wheelbase and rear legroom that is several inches more generous than the Cross and UX, I will look at the next size up in Toyota's CUV lineup. 😁

[@toronado455]

@@rightlanehog3151 RAV4 hybrid and Venza make weird noises. Maybe the next gen will be different.

[@johnwetzel1048]

@@rightlanehog3151 They all have AWD. That's what the rear motor does!

[@djfAmos123]

Enjoyed your video but have to make a comment. In our family we have had 21 xle sienna, a 21 venza, now a 24 corolla cross hybrid and 24 xle sienna. The 21 sienna rode loke a cloud. Regret i got rid of it. 21 venza rode lexus like for a long time but towards the tail end of 22 it started riding rough, really rough. Have taken back numerous times to toyota but they dont want to do something about it. 24 nightshade corolla cross rides decent and the 24 sienna rides terrible as well. The suspension on all these newer toyota cars seems to be really bad. Anyone else noticing how bad the ride quality is on newer toyotas?. I know what you mean about the car sick feeling you are talking about.

[@user-zh9kc7tw4n]

Excellent video and it is a great car but the question is how long it will take Lexus to build an UX replacement on this platform. The LBX is just too small at 6`2 there is no way I can drive the LBX besides short trips

[@rightlanehog3151]

I am the same height so I have the same concern. In general, I want to know why a whole generation of Toyota cars (TNGA) is smaller than its direct competition.

[@firstcitytraveler]

The Camry and the Rav4 will not fit in my garage. They might if the neighbor would tear down his barn and give me 20 feet of his back yard. I have to pull in at an angle and the largest car the I could get in was a Hyundai Elantra. If I tried to pull my wife's Rav4 I would dent both fenders and ripe off one or both mirrors. This would fit in my garage and replace a Kia Niro which is having shifter or transmission problems. I have to have front parking sensors to aid in getting in and out of my garage. The Corolla Cross SXE would be easy to get in the garage. The lower trims do not have parking sensors.

[@andresmartinez3390]

I would have liked if they brought the crown sport with this powertrain. Would have been amazing!

[@MR3DDev]

Acidic is a good name for that color cause I would never touch that.

[@Cathy-xi8cb]

City parking is better in the XSE than in the RAV4. And once you add the convenience package and the adaptive headlights, etc, your RAV4 costs increase.

[@Cathy-xi8cb]

And getting the power lift gate plus high ground clearance is not possible in its competitors. This XSE trim is impossible to get for a reason: people want it!

[@In-obscurity-n7j]

I can't help but Wonder if and when the Corolla gets updated will it take on the styling form the Prius and Camry. Will they go full hybrid? Will it cut into the Prius sales?

[@lostjr]

Still having supply issues. With the $2000 "dealer adjustment" (N. California).

[@alexraif825]

The RAV4 has a problem with the connector to a rear motor. It tends to corrode.

[@sanzzeeofficiallz7959]

Does any of the corolla comes with a panoramic moonroof? Sorry i am new to this cars world and gonna be buying my first new car

[@s-man3684]

Chevy Trax vs Toyota Corolla Cross. Which is better?

[@mrike5651]

If your in Florida the car is great for going long distance places but tbh it won't last the floods in low lying areas that flood badly. This car will be insurance claim

[@donhurst8459]

Kirk you draw attention by people who think your talking to yourself🤔😂

[@byhsu6140]

The Corolla Cross XSE hybrid should have been closer to $30K than $35K. For $35K there are better options like the new Camry Hybrid or a bigger car like the RAV4 Hybrid.

[@johnwetzel1048]

An XSE Hybrid RAV4 will run you over $42,000.

[@byhsu6140]

​@johnwetzel1048 ok. But they have LE hybrid for less. Than the XSE rav4 hybrid.

[@MovingPicturesAVideoMetropolis]

I don't know about mid to upper 30's mpg on Hiway. I think you'll do better. I consistently get well over 40 in my new Venza. A heavier vehicle. And occasionally well above 50 around town.

[@Gopinathk17]

Above 50??? No way.

[@MovingPicturesAVideoMetropolis]

@@Gopinathk17 way.

[@Gopinathk17]

@@MovingPicturesAVideoMetropolis NO WAY!!!!

[@MovingPicturesAVideoMetropolis]

@@Gopinathk17 have it your WAY.

[@rhinds14]

Did a highway test based on what they do on the Daily Motor channel. Got 42.5 mpg with cruise control set at 72.

[@billisnice]

Toyota should have axed the cross and build a small truck. The wait list in my area for a Ford Maverick is 2-3 months.

[@chadhaire1711]

This guy doesn't tell you it will take 160,000 miles for this hybrid system to pay for itself it gas savings at 42 mpg vs 32 for the non-hybrid, then you can spend $5K replacing the hybrid batteries. The headlights are too weak too...

[@mrgurulittle7000]

It looks like a rounded RAV4.

[@illuminaughty2929]

You can get a fully loader Lexus UX Hybrid for cheaper than the Corolla Cross Hybrid

[@KirkKreifels]

What? The UX I reviewed was $47k... Unless you're saying the dealers are dropping the prices on the UX which is possible.

[@DoLus88]

No HUD?

[@worrywart1311]

No, Paul Newman died.

[@DoLus88]

​@@worrywart1311 what?

[@worrywart1311]

@@DoLus88 Joke....have you not heard of the movie titled HUD?

[@DoLus88]

No, im talking about Head Up Display

[@worrywart1311]

@@DoLus88 Obviously. Hence the joke.

[@agpawpaw5912]

Entry level hybrid with premium price tag

[@TalismanPHX]

Definitely take a RAV4 premium for the same money over the CORCROSS XSE

[@Cathy-xi8cb]

Except it isn't the same money. Insurance and repair costs will also be greater.

[@VOLVO2LUV]

HEY

[@陳冠志-e9k]

噓

[@adorianlazar1780]

You keep saying "I think" This or that. If you're going to do a proper review, know your subject for crying out loud!

[@rhinds14]

I like my Corolla Cross Hybrid SE. All the criticisms are fair but the RAV4 feels a bit like too much car for a single person without kids like me. Get between 42 and 48 mpg in SoCal depending on ratio of highway/city driving I do. I bought last October and was lucky to get MSRP but I also got $6500 for my old 2010 Corolla S.

[@KirkKreifels]

You got a great trade for your Corolla

[@collinparsons3363]

I'm on the other side of the country, and I traded my 2012 Rav4 for a hybrid SE a month later. Similar gas mileage, but in upstate NY. I'm also single with no kids, and the new Rav4 is just way too big for what I needed.

[@farcinue]

Living in LA, I like the size of the corolla cross versus the rav4. Parking lots and compact spaces make smaller cars much more practical since we don’t have kids. I’m eyeing the UX too.

[@rhinds14]

Yeah I’m just south of you in OC. Thought about the UX and could have afforded it if I wanted but I liked the way the Cross has more trunk space and is higher off the ground. The UX is almost in between the Cross and the Prius. Wish the Cross had more noise dampening and it would be perfect (though I don’t find it too too noisy).

[@Kjhgr01]

My sister-in-law bought a CC XSE Hybrid when it came out. She really likes it. She traded a 2015 Honda Fit LX... it was quite the boost for her.

[@TheLilleyPad]

I was just in a hybrid Corolla estate in Europe. I hope they bring it to North America.

[@rightlanehog3151]

🙌🙌🙌🙌

[@DoLus88]

Best family car for a low budget. And it has a HUD option. Corolla Cross and Rav4 hybrid - have not.

[@leoprdsoul1]

What is HUD?

[@DoLus88]

​@@leoprdsoul1head-up display

[@rightlanehog3151]

@@leoprdsoul1 For the record, "Hud" is also the title of an excellent film starring Paul Newman, Patricia Neal and Melvyn Douglas.

[@tuhinsarkar1423]

Is there any plan to get a facelift for this Corolla Cross? In some markets, it's already available and it looks much nicer(both interior and exterior)

[@KirkKreifels]

It's coming eventually I'm sure

[@TheOtherKine]

Your opinion on which trim is wrong, though. If you get the lowest trim, there is no option to upgrade to the stereo with the subwoofer. Not that getting that option is all that great, but I need a good stereo, I like to boom my music in the car while I drive, and if I can't hear decent quality in the sounds, it pisses me off to no end, so I always make sure my stereo is GOOD. I've had the JBL in my old Prius, it sounds great, so I am used to that sound. But the drawback to adding that subwoofer the way the Cross have it in the back left of the cargo area, is that it cuts into the width of the area. Yes I could add a stereo myself somewhere else, but if I get the XSE the stereo is integrated as are the tweeters and I won't need to have some local stereo shop take it all apart after and risk having the door sills, panels and clips damaged. It's a hassle! I would install a stereo like that in an old car if I bought a used one, but if leasing is an option to get it all pre-built from the factory like it was in my Prius, why not? Either way, getting the XSE also comes with the AWD, and, in the end, with the stereo upgrade with a slightly better interior, it's worth getting the top trim level, because again, if you compare to the RAV4 in the lowest level, even if you think the RAV4 is a better car, the stereo option and interior trim levels are tied together, and you will end up paying almost $50K in the RAV4. And I will not buy the lowest trim on the RAV4, I keep hearing the ride is smoother in the Corolla Cross Hybrid, I don't need dirt road capability, I just want a cushy ride with a good stereo that I can boom, I won't even notice the engine noise at all anyway, as I can barely hear the Police or Ambulance siren when I'm in my Prius now when I am playing my music LMAO

[@petermacdonald6332]

Toyota’s hybrids over achieve. I’m currently getting 47mpg in my Venza. The new Camry I’m sure will get close to 60.

[@rightlanehog3151]

Toyota Hybrid over-achievement is one of the biggest lessons of Kirk's videos. While other channel hosts constantly push the pedal to the floor and then groan about 'CVT' moaning, Kirk regularly reminds us to take it easy and let the Hybrid beat the official mpg numbers.

[@leoprdsoul1]

How do you like the Venza? Thinking about getting one but the steep slope in the back seems like it cuts down on hauling space quite a bit.

[@rightlanehog3151]

Kirk, The Corolla Cross Hybrid is just missing a stretched-to-Prius-proportions, TNGA-C wheelbase. In other words, it is another Toyota that is smaller on the inside than its chief competitors. 🤨

[@KirkKreifels]

Yeah it's corolla hatchback-like small...

[@VanCityDLLM]

Excellent hybrid system and the size is perfect. This is the size the RAV4 should be but the RAV 4 is getting way too big for many people. This car is incredibly difficult to purchase in Canada as inventory is very limited, therefore, Stealership prices for this car are astronomical. Due to limited availability, I will have to get a Kona or Mazda CX30 or 5 instead. Lost opportunity for Toyota. Ps do not buy that acid yellow colour. It looks horrible in person and won’t hold up well after a few years.

[@kenfrank2730]

Same problem in the U.S. Many Toyotas are very hard to find.

[@lauk837]

I am consistently getting over 60mpg in Bay Area traffic. I wish the gas tank can be slightly bigger, I can only get around 450 miles per tank. Other than the cheap interior materials and build quality. It is a perfect car for me.

[@BrianPetersen-l2w]

Excellent , helpful review. I always favor light color exteriors and interiors, something that local mid-west dealers don't seem to stock (you can have it in any color, as long as it's black HF).

[@avdp9095]

Bestseller in Europe, besselling car in its segment......same for the brilliant Yaris Cross. Allthough European spec Corolla Cross has far nicer materials for the interior, like all European build Toyota's....big difference.

[@markus8484]

I have to disagree in almost every point you just mentioned. It is not the bestseller in its segment. Thats the VW T-Roc. It is not Toyotas bestseller in Europe. Thats the Yaris cross (almost 200.000 units against 50.000 units of Corolla cross). The Yaris Cross is brilliant? No, I don’t think so. Its a very small car with an 3 Cylinder Engine. No wonder, they don’t sell them in the US. Furthermore the European Models have not better materials in the interior. The corolla cross is exactly the same inside. Prius all come from japan and of course they are the same inside. Same with the RaV 4. I never noticed any difference and I drive regularly rentals in US and Europe.

[@avdp9095]

@@markus8484 you have obviously, no clue

[@markus8484]

@@avdp9095 yeah that’s the argument when you have no more arguments. In which part exactly has the Corolla Cross EU better material when the US counterpart? Don‘t search for it. There is none.

[@Mm.2112]

After the crazy weather here in south Florida am seriously thinking of buying SUV or at least crossover

[@islanddon865]

I thought we were done with Gold and Champagne after the '90s. Yeah, I want to take my grandkids into the Mojave Desert & Mountains without a spare. Right. 👎

[@alfistasubbie]

I recently test drove couple of trims of this model at couple of dealerships and the very first impression I got when I got in is how CHEAP it is made inside compared to exterior design. Road noise is unacceptable even compared to a 2023 Impreza which is what I am coming from. The steering is rock hard to hold, wonder why no reviewer mentioned about it. It clearly shows they brought it to market just to be a commodity car nothing else. On top of this, dealer markups is widely spread on all toyota models which is what Toyota shows their blind eye in addressing this issue. The only redeeming point for this is the drive train, just seems like a lost oppurtunity to make it a better quality product.

[@branmuffin6351]

I was considering this, but ended up getting a 24 RAV4 Woodland. When you add options similar to the Woodland it surprisingly comes out to just under the same price point. When you’re paying that much, might as well get something that is more car, better power train and materials, and more options.

[@KirkKreifels]

Rav4 woodland is WAY better. Great choice mate!

[@Cgl3g3nd]

I agree about the se for around 30k, the cx-50 hybrid is big competition. I want the new civic but these and the Camry are what I’m thinking about for buying early next year.

[@1tarras]

i drive the Honda Jazz hybrid 122 ps upgrade 2024,and test drive this Toyota Yaris cross 2024 with the tree cil. atkinson engine from my brother and i find the back space crampie compare with my Honda Jazz,the Honda hybrid system is the best of the two with more silence in the cabin in the Honda.the heating button for the steering wheel is not in the dasch in the Honda ( in the dasch ,nt in the steering for the Toyota Yaris Cross) The Honda driving inthe Honda is more economic (3,4 l - 4,4 l / 100 km ) .prefer my Honda Jazz hybrid four cil. 1.5 l. atkinson engine.The Honda has more airbags build-in about 10 ! airbags ,two more than the Toyota.

[@dianepeirce5912]

Bought a 2022 corolla cross. Wish we didn't. It's too small for 4 people. Back seat is very cramped. I hate all the driver controls. Everything seems backwards from other cars I've had.Runs and handles great. Excellent gas mileage. Just hate the controls. Need a magnifying glass to read controls. Can't get used to this small suv.If you scoot the front seat back, the rear passengers knees are squashed. If I the front seat forward knees are in the glove box. Ugh!

[@cubanboi2429]

Definitely looking at the Camry Hybrid or Civic Hatchback Hybrid

[@LeoTheShortGuy]

Cool

[@theadvocate4698]

Thanks for the info, i was looking for an awd cross L...maybe i'll get a rav4 instead...

[@user-lj5ri3gp5o]

Thanks Kirk, My oldest daughter was talking about this the other day. Watching your upload, I'm inclined to tell her to look at a RAV4 instead. I don't feel it's worth 36K +...at least for me.

[@car24dude]

This should be called the RAV-3 or RAV-2

[@reticulan666]

What to buy, Corolla cross or Lexus ux 300h?

[@ozzzy3z946]

$36,000 😂

[@AliEsko]

I'll take a kia Niro over this all day every day

[@valsutherland7399]

until u have to replace engine

[@hariranormal5584]

can get a used one for 23,000$ (converted price from my country) new ones are nearly 30,000$. I think I'd get a used one I don't mind a few years old at all especially when it's a practical car, it makes not much difference IMHO

[@kwillee93]

You could get into RAV4 territory but a comparably equipped one is going to cost into the 40’s

[@367arnaldo]

8:20 is no one else bithered about the aggressive shifting and the car wasn't even in a full stop?

[@michaelsmith9308]

No HEATED STEERING wheel in the USA- someone fire the CEO!

[@gordonnguyen7160]

The rx got the same 7 inch digital cluster that’s unbelievable

[@uhAlphaFox]

I hear 2025 Corollas are getting the 10.5" infotainment. I assume that would include the Corolla Cross! Would be a nice upgrade for the XSE trim. Having the base 8" infotainment in a top trim car is wild

[@KirkKreifels]

Yeah hope to get an announcement late summer on the bigger screen

[@franklinsteen4721]

We have the SE. Just did 300 I-94 miles round trip -90% at 65-70. 47.7 mpg. With city errands, 60+ mpg. Complaint-they could have done better with a few interior amenities.

[@chadhaire1711]

hahahaha..it will take 140,000 more miles to pay for itself in gas savings, and then you will have to worry about spending $5,000 replacing that hybrid battery system....

[@randytahsin686]

Which one should i go for daily commuting to work? THIS COROLLA CROSS HYBRID OR HONDA HRV?

[@johnwetzel1048]

Corolla Cross has much better gas mileage and power and better looking. HRVs are gutless and don't offer a Hybrid.

[@kevinbarry71]

36K? That's very close to a top line Camry which is a much better car

[@rightlanehog3151]

A Camry LE is a much better car.

[@FM-ij7iu]

I test drove this hybrid but couldn’t get the head rest to adjust to fit me. I’m 5’3” and the head rest was forcing me to look down when I had my back against the seat. Trying to figure out how to resolve this.

[@kevincorcoran5610]

You can remove the head rest, turn it around, and insert it back into top of seat.

[@FM-ij7iu]

@@kevincorcoran5610Having experienced whiplash from being hit by a drunk driver, I would never do what you are suggesting. The headrest is a safety feature. The Prius has a better designed headrest so I’m going with that.

[@Hschlick84]

Rav4 is still a better value in my opinion.

[@johnwetzel1048]

They are about $6,000 more.

[@johnwetzel1048]

RAV4 doesn't have the 5th gen hybrid either. They are due for an update soon.

[@Hschlick84]

@@johnwetzel1048 you pay for what you get.

[@luckyguy600]

1,000 lbs heavier than a FWD model. Only with the 4-wheel electric drive system, at least in Canada. I said no and went with the LE FWD model.

[@JWFas]

Given the price point of the XSE, you might as well move up to a Rav4 hybrid XSE.

[@swishy4mbg]

It looks like it’s trying to compete with Mazda cx50. Do you think the quality craftsman & design is putting pressure on Toyota? I like Mazda driving dynamics but would love some of the Toyota hybrid torque & mpg.

[@JF-xq6fr]

I wish Toyota would make an Outback style AWD Camry wagon, and take some of those nearly 200k annual Outback sales. IMO this vehicle is way over-priced, and even my base 06 Matrix 5sp manual has sound insulation under the hood. Toyota is getting a little cool by half with their pricing, relying far too much on their perceived superior reliability resting on their "we can have crappy low rent plastic interiors and hub caps, and they will still buy it" laurels. It feels as if the total value package is fading rapidly.

[@bugsnbikes]

They do- its called the Crown Signia.

[@alengreen589]

it´s reliable and ........ I think thats it 😂, otherwise nothing shine´s or is special on this economy car.

[@KirkKreifels]

The powertrain here is special vs. the competition.

[@alengreen589]

@@KirkKreifels because it´s louder as the competition?

[@Gopinathk17]

​@@alengreen589Hybrid is not louder.