KitchenAid KF7: Everything You Need to Know (THE Honest Review)

[@ComputerStuff]

Would love a coffee right now...

[@bobsimmons1470]

I like how 13 minutes into this review I learned that it brews totally s*** coffee

[@ComputerStuff]

Appreciate you sticking with us that long 😅 - for what its worth I'm buying another unit and doing a retry. I loved everything else about the machine.

[@bobsimmons1470]

@@ComputerStuff awesome! Hope it works out!

[@nicholasgeorge2424]

There is a sliding grinder setting above the brew group behind the panel. They probably moved it there because of the removable bean hopper. Hopefully that should be able to give you a stronger cup of coffee. The next model up kf8 has two stronger coffee settings you can select without touching grinder settings.

[@ComputerStuff]

Thanks. Going to give the KF8 a try next!

[@nicholasgeorge2424]

@@ComputerStuff One last comment…..I purchased the Kf7 yesterday and was worried after watching your review, because I love strong espresso as well. It took this machine about 12 drinks to settle in on the bean I was using to get the strength and flavor I’m looking for. Settings are…3 bean strength, body…strong….grinder setting to fine. I purchased the Kitchenaid Kf7 and the Jura S8 to see which one I will keep. Kitchenaid is winning because of the extra expense Jura requires to keep it clean which is very costly. Taste and strength are almost even with a slight edge to Jura on flavor.

[@ComputerStuff]

@@nicholasgeorge2424 I definitely went beyond the break in period on mine. Still couldn't get the strength dialed in despite having settings like yours and grinder set up. Agree'd on the KF series vs the Jura. This is a superior machine in almost every way (other than coffee?) lol. Jura's are too complicated, fragmented, and need unnecessary maintenance.

[@dougheiser8187]

I’m very surprised you struggled to pull a strong drink, I can’t go above the level three strength. And as you have seen others comment the grind adjuster is behind the panel

[@ComputerStuff]

Yes but that didn't seem to help with mine. I'm still looking into it with a KF8.

[@dougheiser8187]

@@ComputerStuff the body and brew unit is the same, it’s just the interface and functions that change

[@LRU_DOC]

I own a KF8, which is the same brew unit and don't struggle to get good espresso. You can adjust grind size, dose, and temperature.

[@LRU_DOC]

Also, if you were drinking the "coffee" it's pretty much an Americano, not drip coffee. I wish they would have left that off the menu.

[@jamcofec]

I wonder if that KF8 is the same "puck" size? I imagine you can dose it up to two serves of coffee anyway. Was interesting that in this review it says it's a 1oz puck size whereas similar JURA models are 2oz... JURA is also a lot more expensive

[@LRU_DOC]

@@jamcofec 15g is the largest commonly agreed upon dose size for the KF series, I do not think they lost it anywhere officially. The KF series all use the same brew group so they will all be the same apart from more recipes and the ability to do non dairy milk. It is common for a double shot of espresso to have a 14-20ish gram dose size. If you are unfamiliar with the term dose, it is the weight of ground coffee that goes into a shot of espresso.

[@ComputerStuff]

Jura does have a bigger puck size in some of their models. If someone can weigh in on if the KF8 has bigger puck I'd like to know as well.

[@ComputerStuff]

Yes. This is not the only machine that mislabels drip for americano however. Delonghi is guilt as well and I believe Philips too.

[@jeffbabbie1524]

I have a KF8 and was able to improve the coffee by changing the grind size. I dont know if you have the option to do this on the KF7, but it was just a small slider above the handle on the brew unit.

[@ComputerStuff]

KF7 does have this option as well, but it still wasn't producing the cup I expected. Thank you for commenting!

[@mattwilliams7454]

Im glad another big company jumped in. I think it will increase competition and make super autos better or cheaper in the long run. I started my super auto journey by sacrificing 2 pounds of beans to season the burrs. Cheap beans but still it hurt. But yeah get some nice fresh beans youll be ok.

[@ComputerStuff]

Appreciate you commenting.

[@jamesec1949]

Any freshly roasted beans are going to work. Personal taste is another matter. But I've not ever heard of having to buy a specific bean for a specific machine. If there isn't a grind selector then this is just a dust collector or maybe large door stop.

[@ComputerStuff]

hahaha, a very big and expensive door stop. Yeah it was truly bizarre - produced just horrible coffee.

[@garnettbrown]

KitchenAid did their homework. They used inspirations, innovations and improvements from various manufactures, (Gaggia, De'Longhi, Jura, Seaco, Phillips and Breville) and made it their own.

[@ComputerStuff]

Can't argue there. Great design.

[@NoahsDadDotCom]

I was looking at this machine over the Jura and people seem to really like the FF8.

[@NoirSavant]

I have my mind made up to get a super automatic bean to cup. I want a jura Z10 but for $4k there’s other things I want more. Almost settled on the delonghi eletta explore. Anything you think is better right now?

[@ComputerStuff]

Trying a Bosch right now. Will report back findings!

[@brandonroth2525]

@@ComputerStuff when is this review coming? I'm looking at the Bosch units now.

[@ComputerStuff]

@@brandonroth2525 Demoing it now. Review out in a week or so. Recommend NOT buying the Bosch. Massively overpriced. Cheap build. And coffee weak.

[@brandonroth2525]

@@ComputerStuff Are you testing the 800 series?

[@ComputerStuff]

@@brandonroth2525 I am indeed. Looking at it now. Want me to post a quick review before the big one? lol

[@cahoonm]

hope you can help me. I am in each of a machine that makes the best coffee as hassle free as possible. I have a Phillips 3200 and the coffee is bitter no mater what bans and settings. I had a McMaster and that was not what i hoped. Thanks in advance.

[@ComputerStuff]

Not a fan of the Phillips machines. Are you looking to purchase a new automatic machine? I'm testing a Bosch right now - hoping that will be the answer. We'll post a video soon.

[@cahoonm]

@@ComputerStuff I like the Philips in some ways, but the coffee sucks. I have had 3 machines and coffee taste same in all of them. Looking forward to your Bosch video. Thanks

[@Ryan_S63]

I was just about to purchase this machine too but not after you said how bad the coffee is 😂. Was wondering if you have had a go at the Terra TK-02

[@ComputerStuff]

I hqve not yet, but have heard some questionable things. I am testing a Bosch right now, and maybe will try Terra after. Thank you for watching!

[@Ryan_S63]

@ looking forward to future videos thanks!

[@technoalah]

Awesome perfect review, no bs here.

[@ComputerStuff]

I appreciate that!

[@jdl1276]

Also, did you experiment with the "body" flavor selections?

[@ComputerStuff]

Yes, thank you. Im going to try KF8 here soon as well. Want to love this machine. I love everything else about it.

[@advapp]

How hot is the coffee that comes out of there a lot of these things don't make coffee hot enough.

[@ComputerStuff]

Great question, if I recall it has different levels of heat you can select from but I did not temp test the coffee. You're correct though, a lot of automatics pull too cold.

[@jdl1276]

Have you tried doing a full cleaning on the unit?

[@ComputerStuff]

Yes.

[@lcajiga7]

May you review Gaggia Accademia Luxury and Zulay Kitchen Magia Super Automatic Espresso Machine? Thanks

[@ComputerStuff]

Ask and ye shall receive. We'll hunt down a demo model.

[@Longuro]

I just got this. Why does so much water accumulate underneath the tray? I don't see water splashing out the mug during the brewing process, yet water accumulates underneath the tray.

[@ComputerStuff]

hmm. Loose gasket? are you sure the tray is pushed like ALL the way in?

[@betterbeready1]

I had this same problem with the Breville barista touch express. Tasted terrible and I tried everything. Theres no way you could have some company and offer them a nice cup of coffee without going through you know what 😮😂. It would say a little more please. So I’d put in a little more. Then it would say too much. Coffee would go everywhere. So sad! I went back to a reg coffee pot and bought a frother

[@ComputerStuff]

Thanks for the thoughtful comment!

[@hardemandc]

Do you know what the maximum dose of coffee for this machine is? Most Gaggia machines max out at 11.5 grams, while Jura goes as high as 16 grams. Coffee is generally measured in grams, btw, not ounces.

[@ComputerStuff]

Good point. If you google x ounces to grams, it should pull it up for you.

[@glebzobnin9416]

It’s about 15-16 grams. The original manufacturer is Eugster/Frismag, they also make Melitta’s home superautos, Nivona, Miele, and Jura

[@CharlesMTF]

Shopping for a coffee maker now. I assume the KF8 would probably be the same. Its ashame, that a machine that seems to have all the right features you'd want in a multi-automatic coffee maker does not make good coffee. Out of all the machines you have tested that make all the different variant of coffees, which would you say has had the best tasting coffee?

[@ComputerStuff]

I think the Gaggia has the best tasting coffee of the super automatics. I may give the KF series another shot though and try some different beans and techniques. I want to love it so bad, haha.

[@TwelveBravo]

Great review! Would you recommend the kitchen aid over the new Philips 5500 lattego? I’m looking to spend no more than $1200, so what would you recommend. I do care about the flavor of my espresso/cappuccinos/americanos. Oh and the grind settings have to be changed on the inner panel while you’re grinding I believe on the kitchen aid.

[@ComputerStuff]

I would still recommend the Kitchen Aid over the Phillips, yes. And yes you can adjust grind size on the Kitchen Aid - and you should. You need to find that "sweet spot"

[@Stan_sprinkle]

I’d imagine with super automatics they err heavily on the side of grinding too coarse?

[@ComputerStuff]

I'd wager youre correct on that one.

[@admiral_v]

looking at the used puck, its not grinding fine enough

[@ComputerStuff]

Grind harder.... that's what she s- ..... oh never mind...

[@noelledonfeld4166]

Do not put a milk container with tube in the refrigerator, as it can get plugged eventually. Remove the top with the tube and rinse it every time. You can put the container itself in the refrigerator.

[@ComputerStuff]

Good advice, thanks.

[@j.macmillan2293]

Can it make a mocha?

[@ComputerStuff]

Yes

[@KBKLuu]

Have you been able to get a better tasting cup out of this machine? I’m really disappointed that you found the coffee tasting bad.

[@ComputerStuff]

I haven't. Several bags of beans later I still wasn't blown away. It's a shame.. such a fantastic product, but the brew components need a redo.

[@prime3106]

It is going to be due to the inability to change grind sizes... It probably grinds the coffee really coarse and it looks like it tastes very watery.

[@ERIN_198]

​@@prime3106you can change grind sizes on this. You can change it to fine or coarse

[@weedywet]

you should review a Jura. Maybe the ENA 8?

[@ComputerStuff]

We're getting there. I promise! haha

[@joemenzaart]

@@ComputerStuffi bought an 8 after trying many weak machines

[@ComputerStuff]

@@joemenzaart Do you like it?

[@BigdisplacementI6]

Wow what coffee espresso or latte would impress you? 😢

[@ComputerStuff]

A good one!

[@BigdisplacementI6]

​@@ComputerStuff😂🤑I want a KF7 in porcelain. I drink french press and Saeco Lirika coffee. We use Starbucks Espresso beans, and Java brand. 😅 Tastes alright but I need to make lattes. Only tasting coffee.

[@matthudson4661]

have you been working out? looking jacked

[@ComputerStuff]

I was born this way... but my chest could use some work....

[@nunuvyerbizness]

Got to admit you had me in the first half I was thinking can I afford this thing? And then you got to the coffee. Lol. Just looking at those streams of espresso coming out of the spouts I can see that it wasn't performing anywhere close to optimally. Nope, I guess I'll have to save $1,700 and stick to my $40 stove top moka pot!

[@ComputerStuff]

Moka Pots are on point, though!

[@larrylitmanen9877]

Who makes this machine? It does look like a Phillips, I am almost 100% sure KitchenAid is just a brand.

[@ComputerStuff]

Can't tell if this is a joke? KitchenAid is the manufacturer. KF7 is the model.

[@larrylitmanen9877]

@@ComputerStuff I was serious, many brands outsource the actual production. Since this is the first time KA sells an espresso machine I would have guessed they partnered up.

[@ComputerStuff]

@@larrylitmanen9877 Ohhhhh gotcha! Great point and I dont know the answer to that. But you're right a lot of the big guys outsource these days.

[@AnAmericanPatriot1555]

KF6 is $1,200 KF7 is $1,700 KF8 is $2,000

[@ComputerStuff]

Affirmative.

[@marshallstringfield9340]

Really confused by this review. I’ve never watched this channel before, and unclear if this is satire or real. Isn’t the primary purpose of the machine to make great coffee? It’s so bad he spits it out, but seems to ‘love’ the machine.

[@ComputerStuff]

Marshall. Not sure why this is confusing. If this helps with clarity I’ll break it down: The design, features, intuitiveness, quality, and brew choice is 10/10. The coffee it produces is 3/10. It’s A thoughtful product that produces bad coffee. Both things can exist. Does this help?

[@borislavtodorov6191]

Garbage machine

[@ComputerStuff]

lol, do you have one?

[@bobcat7664]

Not very impressed with this machine there's better manufacturers out there then KitchenAid for making coffee machines 👎

[@ComputerStuff]

Still on the hunt for the perfect automatic!