Ice Cream Stabilizers? The Secret to a Perfect Homemade Ice Cream | WTF - Ep. 106

Grit is great in a TV series, but terrible in your homemade ice cream, homemade sorbet or homemade gelato. Learn the secret ingredient to silky ice cream, smooth sorbet and genuinely perfect gelato.
Timestamps:
0:00 - Introduction
0:27 - What causes grittiness in homemade ice cream?
1:31 - How to make good ice cream: technique
4:04 - Ice cream ingredient hacks: ice cream stabilizers
6:00 - What’s the best ice cream stabilizer?
7:32 - Dairy-free ice cream
8:04 - How ice cream stabilizers work
8:50 - Ice cream temperature for scooping
9:26 - Our favorite ice cream equipment
12:06 - Ice cream shops
12:43 - Conclusion
Product Links:
Perfect ice cream - bit.ly/3uXSyIV
Perfect sorbet - bit.ly/3yn9TNN
Perfect gelato - bit.ly/2S1jzg4
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[@natashaferichia]

And should i put my stabilizer after it boils or first thing when i put every ingredients in the pot? Thanks!

[@natashaferichia]

If i want to use stabilizer in my ice cream, do i still need cornstarch in my mixture? Thanks!

[@staceydenise5538]

I appreciate the back story. It helped me understand why I was getting the results I was getting.

[@Modernist_Pantry]

happy to help!

[@sayyamzahid7312]

I live in Karachi Pakistan and I like your comment

[@trishc3736]

I'm very interested in using the Perfect Gelato. I usually heat my base and was wondering at what point in the process do I add the stabilizer. Great video!

[@Modernist_Pantry]

Thanks! We recommend dry mixing it in with the sugar

[@Erica-yr3gf]

Your Chanel is awesome. Thank you.💕

[@Modernist_Pantry]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@kevinsuckiel4885]

Hello, About how much Perfect Ice Cream stabilizer should I use in an a recipe. I’m using 1 quart whole milk to 2 cups heavy cream. Also if I’m not mistaken I would add the stabilizer to this when right before it boils?

[@Modernist_Pantry]

When making your ice cream base, mix 0.5% of Perfect Ice cream into your recipe.

[@laletacosta4474]

Please,make a video recipe of Ice Cream and gelato using Xanthan Gum as stabilizer..thank you so much...

[@dariaaziz4270]

Pleasee tell me how do you use lamda carrageenan in whipping cream to stabilize it?

[@Modernist_Pantry]

We wouldn't recommend Lambda since it's a thickener and does not gel. Check out our whipped cream stabilizers episode: blog.modernistpantry.com/wtf/the-secret-of-whipped-cream-stabilizers/

[@jessicamann684]

For ice cream stabilizers and gums that need to be hydrated in heat: can they be hydrated in singe ingredients, or does the whole homogeneous mixture need to be heated for hydration? For example can I hydrate the gums in warm water and then add the water to my ice cream base ad mix; or do I need to heat the whole mix for hydration? Also, do I need to re-mix the ice cream base with gums after hydration and re-cooling of the base?

[@Modernist_Pantry]

You can hydrate it in a single ingredient, the more important part is making sure everything is evenly dispersed

[@teena716]

Do you have anything which I can add in my dry pudding mix? Its a no heat pudding mix. I am looking for something like clear gel.

[@Modernist_Pantry]

Yup, try Instagel: www.modernistpantry.com/instagel.html

[@teena716]

@@Modernist_PantryThanks for your reply. But is this vegan? I am looking for a halal or kosher product.

[@Modernist_Pantry]

Instagel is not vegan or kosher. You may be able to do with with a modified starch like Ultra-Sperse 3 (www.modernistpantry.com/ultra-sperse-3.html) but we haven't done it ourselves.

[@MikeWoodTruss]

I've been making my ice cream in a Ninja Creami device. The texture is much better than my compressor ice cream maker ever produced.

[@asaam8010]

I just bought a ninja creami device. I want my ice cream to be more creamy. Did you add any stabilizers? If yes, how much for each pint?

[@cindydogmom]

@@asaam8010 Place frozen mix in microwave for 30 seconds for a cup, 45 seconds or so for full. If it’s not super solid it creams up quicker. After spinning if it’s still not creamy enough, add a bit of milk and respin.

[@Mark-ks9jj]

Using good chemistry to overcome ice crystal AND using the ninja creami is the best of both worlds.

[@250Pants]

How about adding Inulin along with any of these stabilizers? Have you tested it? Can you comment on what the ratio and preparation for inulin would be?

[@Modernist_Pantry]

We haven't worked with Inulin yet

[@shirleystevenson5878]

I usually use coconut milk ice cream, which stabilizer would you recommend? Perfect sorbet or perfect ice cream?

[@dorisdonovan9287]

I tried to make low fat low sugar icecream but it crystallised. It's there any way to fix it

[@Modernist_Pantry]

Did you add any stabilizers?

[@zawmin9546]

what is the ratio of stabilizers to the ingredients in a recipe. thanks

[@Modernist_Pantry]

Depends on the recipe and the stabilizer. Typically we recommend starting at 0.5% by weight of ingredients.

[@aldenpinto389]

Which stabilizer do you suggest for vegan ice creams - CMC, guar gum or something else?

[@Modernist_Pantry]

Perfect Ice Cream will still work since it is vegan. You can also try Tara Gum, which is one of our favorite single ingredient gums for ice cream

[@aldenpinto389]

@@Modernist_Pantry Okay. Thank you!!

[@seangholipour3884]

@@Modernist_Pantry how about mcc?

[@TheShoemakerb1]

Tara gum is a relatively inexpensive substitute for Gum Arabic (I believe--Could be one of the other stabilizers). I recall I got a pound bag of Tara Gum for about the same price of a couple ounces of gum Arabic.

[@kadiriscafe795]

Hi please could you guide me how to produce softy mix base .............Thanks

[@Modernist_Pantry]

Thanks for asking but we're not equipped to advise on how to make products for commercial use, there's usually a lot more that go into those and often specialized equipment that is often not available to the home cook/restaurant chef.

[@michigandave9680]

Use reconstituted dry milk powder. That does it for me at home.

[@lavellnutrition]

Would you please do a ideo on how to use vegetable glycerin and glucommamon?

[@Modernist_Pantry]

They're interesting products, we don't currently carry them but will look into whether they make sure for our catalog

[@julenelewis290]

Can you use it in condence milk?

[@Modernist_Pantry]

What are you hoping it would do in condensed milk?

[@jamesellsworth9673]

AND icecream season is coming!

[@laurice8056]

James Ellsworth + Wait, who said ice cream has a season...we All scream for ice cream 🍨🍦🤗 LOL!

[@brendenhuennekens2931]

Aaaaaannnddd ice cream season is ending

[@sj460162]

Arrrgh. Interesting stuff...but came here for a recipe lol. Im really interested in making that gelato ice cream served from a solver aluminium container as a kid. The taste wasnt too rich or too creamy..so I heard all I gotta do is lower the fat...but when I did it was rock solid! Two quick questions...is locust bean gum the best gum...if so why? And for the home cook is adding an egg essential to texture? Oh yes...now I read cream cheese makes the oerfect scoop!!?? Arrrrrgh

[@Modernist_Pantry]

Here is one recipe- you can find a lot more different recipes on our blog: blog.modernistpantry.com/recipes/coffee-bourbon-caramel-gelato/ There is no such thing as a 'best gum' or 'best way to make ice cream'. It's all what works for your particular recipe that you're most happy with.

[@sayyamzahid7312]

Chris Kyle died in the battle rip Massachusetts

[@marianmurphy4625]

What does pick the one you're going for mean?

[@aldenpinto389]

What percentage by weight would you suggest to use Perfect Ice Cream for vegan ice creams?

[@Modernist_Pantry]

We always recommend starting at 0.5% by weight and adjusting based on results. There is no one ratio fits all.

[@aldenpinto389]

@@Modernist_Pantry Thanks!!

[@lewisstevens1]

How do you add the stabiliser when you do not heat the ingredients. All the stabilisers I have seen seem to require you to heat it.

[@Modernist_Pantry]

We recommend blending it into your dry ingredients before you put them into your ice cream maker

[@lewisstevens1]

@@Modernist_Pantry So it will just be mixing into sugar right as there is no other dry ingredients

[@Modernist_Pantry]

That is correct

[@laletacosta4474]

Can you make a video recipe of both ice cream and gelato using Xanthan Gum ??thank you so much..

[@Anand-qb1wp]

Do you have anything that can be used with a cold base ice cream mix made from milk, heavy cream and sugar? Perfect Ice Cream requires heating up the base to 180 F.

[@Modernist_Pantry]

Yes, Perfect Sorbet is cold water soluble. www.modernistpantry.com/perfect-sorbet.html

[@MonacoSpeed]

In OZ I had an ice cream shop, I also used stabilizers. Back then I used a Cattabriga machine. Now in Japan, using a cuisine art home machine, the ice cream comes out the same just in much smaller batches. The 2 ice creams I make the most are banana caramel and rum raisin.

[@sayyamzahid7312]

I live in Karachi Pakistan and I like your comment

[@amb8405]

cool story bro🙄

[@candynieves9504]

30 liters of ice cream in a mixer, how much stabilizer should I add?

[@Modernist_Pantry]

Start at 1% by weight. Exact measurements will be dependent on your recipe and desired results. We recommend always start your R&D in small batches and scale up once you're satisfied with your finished ice cream.

[@dabbiana1999]

I didnt skip ads because I like the integrity of this channel. Telling all the right ingredients and the secret... stabilizer!

[@Modernist_Pantry]

Thanks Joe! Appreciate your support 👍

[@homesweetcooking939]

i've tried making ice cream like 10 times, they all always turn solid like rock...never thought making ice cream will be so difficult...

[@Modernist_Pantry]

Sounds like you definitely need some products to help with that

[@homesweetcooking939]

@@Modernist_Pantry yeah, i'm gonna try stabilizer + sugar and cover the container with a lid in my freezer, hopefully these work.

[@AedanBlackheart]

Try some alcohol/extracts Fats, sugars, salt, alcohol

[@kinglord5429]

Mine is 1.5 Pint Thermo-Electric Ice Cream Maker and i use half&half 1.5 cup batter per batch

[@kinglord5429]

I didn't do weight because its 1.5 cups and never heated the batter every thing right from the fridge. I know flavorings changes the consistency like adding coco powder or using coconut cream which thickens the batter itself, more fat thicker it gets. So how would these stabilizers help me and my machine takes 2 hours for 1.5 pt but no pre freezing tube why bought it.

[@Modernist_Pantry]

Not sure what the question is?

[@kinglord5429]

@@Modernist_Pantry I'm just wondering about stabilizers and if needed or not. Not sending my ice cream around the world to stores and really doesn't last long enoght to melt away in the bowl or develop icing in the freezer. Made 2 batches today of course needed extra ferm up time in freezer after churning was over but when ready taste much better than store bought brands. Only 3 main ingredients, sugar, half&half and vanilla rest added changes textures so many variables just wondering the science.

[@Modernist_Pantry]

If you're 100% happy with your recipe and it's perfect for you, there's no need to mess with it. If you're having issues with ice crystals, texture, or longevity or just want to try something out, then experiment with gums. We don't believe in 'the best recipe' or having a single way of doing something.

[@Dina_tankar_mina_ord]

I dont know if I hate or love their chemestri. one is energetic over the top advertising explosion. The other is chill af and just want to explain. hahaha entertaining non the less.

[@fharizmulyadi5666]

ngomong naon mnh urang lieur dah

[@sam7811]

As a pastry chef I've gotta sell out and say without a paco you'll always be slightly below what you can be with a churner. That being said the fat content-sugar(and inverts) will always determine the success of ice cream textur🤷‍♂️

[@Modernist_Pantry]

We love our Pacojets!

[@Mark-ks9jj]

The ninja creami is the lower cost option to the $6k pactjet

[@DB-nl9xw]

Recipes using Agar and CMC please

[@Modernist_Pantry]

We have some already: www.modernistpantry.com/agar-agar.html www.modernistpantry.com/carboxymethyl-cellulose.html

[@Modernist_Pantry]

If you mean specifically for ice cream, we have a lot of ingredients for ice cream making already so we don't have anything on the calendar to do more ice cream testing right now.

[@euniceabella5464]

Why do you use Carrageenan? Is my understanding that is causes cancer.

[@Modernist_Pantry]

That is not scientifically correct. We recommend you read this very well written post by our friend The Gentle Chef: thegentlechef.com/is-carrageenan-safe-eat-vegan/

[@booboo8775]

@@Modernist_Pantry Carrageenan is an irritant to the body... Dr. Ray Peat says to avoid it...

[@xz86]

This is basically guar gum?

[@Modernist_Pantry]

Not just guar!

[@Qim2609]

🤣what kind of kitchen house that have a blast chiller

[@Modernist_Pantry]

blast chiller not required!

[@pankajmakwana2300]

Just stick the mix in a chest freezer, you only want to cool it down rapidly from 75C to 3 degrees C, commonly called the bacteria multiplication zone. Heating above kills it in unhomogenised milk and egg yolks and cooks the egg to make mix thicker. To prevent burning mix use two different size of pots one outer with water and inner pot for mix. Hope the above explains it. Have fun.

[@JesseRademacher]

Haha. Clutch.

[@Modernist_Pantry]

🤙

[@jomunoz3931]

OMG he sounds just like hank from scishow

[@SSchithFoo]

My god, show, dont tell!!! Arrrghhh

[@chow457]

How about start doing it already, the cows are coming home.

[@Modernist_Pantry]

Here's an episode with more 'doing stuff' :) kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5-3f6qjrL19kKM

[@thoroughsoft]

Let me guess... When you start crying your mom immediately comes running with ice cream to shut you up...

[@drtn6206]

This didn't teach us anything...

[@CaptainPlanet007]

Too much yapping! Now talk about the stabilizer! How it look? Where to buy? EtcZz

[@Modernist_Pantry]

You can get all the products and more info here: modernistpantry.com/categories/ingredients/stabilization.html We've made additional videos on each of the stabilizers

[@CaptainPlanet007]

@@Modernist_Pantry Thank you!

[@usware5240]

The part I was interested in was the stabilizers which turned out to just be a plug for their product 🤣Gotta sell your product I understand but I just waisted a part of my life.

[@Modernist_Pantry]

If you want to check out more in depth info on the stabilizers there are many follow up deep dives. blog.modernistpantry.com/?s=ice+cream

[@leotabaca5476]

I am sorry but you in the blue talk to much, to fast and say basically the same thing over and over again. I think it would have been I good video but I had to turn it off because of that. Good luck next video.

[@Modernist_Pantry]

Noted!

[@chamchef]

Too many words guys. Mark you are overly verbose. Tone it down please for the love of god keep it simple. Scott even had a moment where he was like, oh... I missed my mark cuz Mark is on crack.

[@epicurian4487]

A LOT OF BLA BLA BLA AND NOTHING SPECIFIC , NO QUANTITIES OR SPECIFIC RECIPE.ALMOST USELESS

[@Modernist_Pantry]

We've done followup episodes for each item with recipes: blog.modernistpantry.com/wtf/the-secret-of-perfect-ice-cream/ blog.modernistpantry.com/wtf/the-secret-of-perfect-gelato/ blog.modernistpantry.com/wtf/the-secret-of-perfect-sorbet/

[@thoroughsoft]

Try FOCUSING instead of bitching and you might actually pick up quite a lot of information. You should just drag your butt to Walmart to get the ice cream.

[@mazzywinters7565]

Guy on the left is annoying as hell

[@amb8405]

these two are not naturals on the camera

[@marianmurphy4625]

Not subscribing guys

[@marianmurphy4625]

I don't understand why sugar isn't banned when there are so many natural and healthy alternatives now

[@reeceeooo2671]

I try to patronize you but, your products are entirely to high.

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