Kitplane Enthusiast Introduction (Ep28)

[@collinnewberry]

I graduated from UND (2009) after my time in the Navy as an aviation electrician and I'm currently in the 119th. You just became exponentially cooler knowing you knew John Odegard.

[@sgriffith2353]

Your comments about being on a Minuteman maintenance team at Malmstrom brought back many memories. I was on a Minuteman launch crew at Ellsworth in the early and mid-1970s. You missed the wonderful days of SAC. I remember one night when we changed over and the off-going crew told us that the maintenance team at one of our LF's doing an RV change had run out of work time, buttoned up the site, and were upstairs at the LCC sleeping. After we changed over I called the LF where there was a security camper team to see if there was an RV transporter there. Nope. The Flight Security Controller topside at the LCC said there was no RV transporter there. I had him wake up the team chief and I asked him where the RV was. He said it was on the missile but not electrically hooked up which conformed to his procedures. Unfortunately, I couldn't confirm this since the missile was dead. I told him I thought it was out there but couldn't take his word for it - two officer policy and all of that. I called the command post and uttered the dreaded phrase - possible Broken Arrow and told them I wasn't satisfied. After that, a variety of helicopters and colonels flew out and verified the RV was safe and secure in the buttoned-up site. I figured my days were numbered after talking with the base and SAC Command post but nothing happened and I was told that the procedures were changed. Those were the days. Hope you saw the Stratos 716x at Oshkosh. You need a 2.5 million kit-built jet!

[@KitplaneEnthusiast]

Yikes-crazy stuff but good times. I miss MMT!

[@donaldharen]

Your videos are great! I've been following you as a subscriber for about a year. Your attention to detail is amazing! I wish I could fly again but I'm not able due to physical issues. I'm 73 years old and have my commercial and instrument ratings. It's hard not being able to get back up in the air. I miss it so much. Thanks for your videos. I never miss see them. God bless.

[@eduprey1969]

Well from one Michigan to another nice job from a A&P tech. Retired from the Army and Airlines. Spend my free time at the Yankee air museum as a UH1H crew chief.

[@briancarroll3288]

Thanks for your service ! Great story, small world, I'm from East Helena Montana living in Sacramento and getting ready to cash out and buy a new home in Arkansas. I am wanting to get my Sport license and buy a Zenith build kit. I feel like I'm getting a late start at 63 years young but not going to get any younger so why not. Thanks again great story. I have binged watched 28 of the Super Stol build video's today !!

[@paulbrunner1818]

Wow, a triple bonus post: Background (best part), Brian cameo, and more build detail! 👍

[@glasairguy4910]

Paul, you got the comma in the wrong place! You meant, "Background, (best part) Brian cameo..." HAHAHAHA! 😆

[@KitplaneEnthusiast]

Too bad it takes a miracle to get Brain off his couch to come over and help!!

[@mwcar416]

Interesting comments about your career. I have watched your videos enough to know you retired from the A.F. as an enlisted person but couldn't figure out how you made the transition to airline aircrew. I spent 38 years in the ANG 33 years fulltime. I now understand where you learned your attention to detail. F-4 and F-16 rides were memorable for me too.

[@davehallier8584]

Hey Mark, great bio, I read every comment and every reply so far, ditto everything positive about your build. I DO appreciate all that you are sharing as I too am building the Super Duty. I will be including or incorporating all of your tips and suggestions. You are bar none the most conscientious builder I’ve seen yet! Thus your videos are a must watch priority in my life. My mission includes being the first Super Duty with both retractable gear AND retractable leading edge slats/slots. Then from the spinner backwards I want an inline powerplant, tightly cowled nose liquid cooled 195 turbo with VIP. BERINGER Aero is helping me with swinging the gear and using their hardware. Still in mod stage, considering extra weight and no hydraulics just EMA actuators and pushrods. Nose swing is easy, but I have a few options for the main gear. I want STOL and Cruise performances.

[@KitplaneEnthusiast]

Oh man I can't wait to see this airplane!!

[@Verb130]

Thanks for telling us your background. I'm jealous of your maintenance experience. I'm an experimental aircraft builder too, but all my experience is as an operator, not a maintainer. 11 years active duty and 11 years reserves, now flying heavy international cargo, but I need to watch channels like yours to get those little techniques that guys like you know, that I could never learn on my own. I used to hang out in the maintenance squadrons, just to watch and learn. Please keep teaching. It may seem like small stuff to you, but they are gems to guys like me.

[@bfryar22]

Holy cow! About time you introduced yourself! Been watching you for years and had no idea.

[@TheMrmax00000]

Awesome Vid. Great yo learn about you. Have you thought about turning it into a Taildragger?

[@KitplaneEnthusiast]

No!

[@daverobinsonTnT]

@@KitplaneEnthusiast Mark, you should :-)

[@SpyGeorgilis]

Awesome video! I can't believe you apologized in the end for introducing yourself, though. Nice work, as always.

[@jeffroclamp-it3405]

Excellent job telling your story Mark . Your explanations of how and why you do things in the build are great ! Oh yeah your sense of humor is also a bonus ,thanks !!

[@gregpardee5595]

Wow Mark thanks for giving us a little of your flying history and thanks for your service!

[@johnreed8872]

Here I was thinking that you received your pilot training in the A.F. , so much for assumptions. I grew up an A.F.O.B. My father was a navigator/flight commander , many different types and many different AF bases! Thanks for the bio and the SD update! I can't think of one of your improvements or modifications that won't be going in my project in one form or another , really appreciate your videos! Blue Skies!

[@darrenweston6056]

Great video Mark you forgot to add that you also do international sticker supplies on the introduction 🇬🇧

[@n206ja]

I enjoyed learning about your background and it is now obvious why you like working on aluminum airframes! I also appreciated the detail about the Zenith 4-point harness system. Years ago, with cooperation from Zenith's engineer, I fabricated and installed a 4-point system in my 750 STOL and agree it's both more comfortable and more secure than the 3-point system. Looking forward to more of your videos in 2021!

[@andriusdiksaitis2462]

Thank you for sharing your story.... now it is clear why you are so good in homebuilding.... Greetings from Germany....

[@MRJSWORKSHOP]

I can see now where all the detail comes from great video for starting 2021 look forward to the new year.⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@tfogelson3139]

Liked the background, similar to mine, AZ Army NG, worked as AC electrician, Metal Shop, then Crew Chief on UH-M huey, and when the Guard got Cobras flew in the OH-58A. Retired in '92. One tool I would suggest that would help with the deburring is a bench mounted belt sander. Used this extensively when helping the CAF get a B-17 back in flying status.

[@KitplaneEnthusiast]

Yes there are many times when I need a belt sander. I usually go over to Len's house and use his. I just never thought about actually buying my own! LOL

[@jerrylittle7797]

Loved the video! It makes perfect sense to me! I retired a few years ago and got to spend a bit of time with 2M0s/2W2s the years before retirement (watching them mostly!) Keep up the great videos!

[@pilotsharkuas]

I grew up in Santa Maira and used to call Vanderburg AFB Vandyland. Watch many a missile go up, and more than a few, the range office had to blow it up. Heck use to ride our bikes to Point Sal, and you would go right by a silo. I think they use to have a missile completion where they brought in the top crews to battle it out; the winning team got to launch a missile, though they call it Prime Beef. Anyways like watching your build. Thanks for the memories as well. Handshake

[@KitplaneEnthusiast]

I remember we added a "self-destruct" package to the missile before we launched it. We were all hoping that they would not have to use it. As it turned out, our missile had a perfect launch and all went perfectly. They launched it on a clear night and we could actually see all three booster stages separate and tumble back to Earth!

[@hongshi8251]

Very much appreciate the introduction.

[@RamblerMan68]

Nice to hear the history Mark! As a retired Jarhead helicopter mechanic, it's interesting to see the parallels. I just bought a Rans S-19 from the builder in Fl and ferried it to 10C (home airport here in Illinois). Absolutely love it, even with no cabin heat (yet)! Hope to see you sometime at a fly in or passing through. Enjoy and be safe! Kevin

[@KitplaneEnthusiast]

Is that the blue and white one that was advertised on the RANS CLAN? Nice airplane!!

[@RamblerMan68]

@@KitplaneEnthusiast Yessir, N79ZZ. Hope to get together sometime 👍. Love your videos!! You really take the time to build it "right" as well😎👌

[@pine6578]

Just like to say I like your channel a lot and wish I can do what you do.

[@PapaDougsAdventures01]

Thanks for introducing yourself. I found it very helpful. Always enjoy the build and I’m looking forward to many more years of watching your content.

[@jimsandoval7633]

Thank you for sharing your life experience, very interesting to know about.

[@rickthomas2434]

I was at Malmstrom from 86 to may of 1990. FMT. I enjoy the content.

[@KitplaneEnthusiast]

Wow I just missed you there. I got there mid 1992.

[@theav8rs45]

Nice video Mark!

[@bjarneandreasen4032]

Thanks for your background story 😀. I liked it as I like your episodes. Hallo from Denmark

[@duanestace6303]

Thank you for sharing some of your story Mark. That was really interesting!

[@TheBurbankBlues]

Thanks for the intro. I had no idea that you were a Fighting Sioux! :) I'm currently in Grand Forks. Thanks for sharing.

[@KitplaneEnthusiast]

Last time I was in Grand Forks was about 2002. I'd love to get back and see the campus.

[@texak1974]

You forgot your Mooney. I liked that plane.

[@KitplaneEnthusiast]

I really liked that airplane too. The only reason I sold it was to make room for the Super Duty.

[@gregbevpriest7623]

Have REALLY loved your videos and learned a lot which has assisted me in building my Cruzer. Keep up the good work and thanks for sharing mate.

[@johngood3163]

Wow, love the human interest feature. You were really close on the foot shot. It's really FOT&E for Follow-on Test and Evaluation. Many in the ICBM business call it a foot shot. It's a great privilege to do what you did at Vandy. Great video. We look forward to everyone of these. We were intrigued by your decision to keep the top and sides only clecoed. This is just another reason to keep watching. We learn all kinds of practical things from your videos. Thank you for going to so much trouble producing them.

[@KitplaneEnthusiast]

Ah you are so right! When I put "FOTSHOT" on the screen something didn't look right with it but I figured "Oh well-that was 27 years ago-what do I know..." But seeing FOT&E in your post immediately looked familiar and correct. Thanks for the clarification. Yes we've always called it a "foot shot". I wonder where that name came from??

[@johngood3163]

@@KitplaneEnthusiast LOL 🤣 Yep, yep. We know how it is. We're always going to Google for spellings, et.al. I think the reason for the term might be nothing more than what we do with so many acronyms (i.e., make a word out of it like WSSRs, which you might recall we pronounce "wizzers" for Weapon System Safety Rules). On the other hand, it may have something to do with other purposes for these periodic tests. BTW, Malmstrom is still fully operational. The dorms and a number of the houses are all new. My first visit there was Nov 2010, and I was impressed with what appeared to be new facilities. The safety office also gave me good training on how to drive in the snow, and there was a lot there to learn in. Great place.

[@jefferyhudson4681]

Good video. Glad you told us about your career and experience.

[@TFlight77]

Holy crap we were both MMT at malmstrom at the same time. I got there in 95 and left in 2000.

[@KitplaneEnthusiast]

Just missed you. I saved all my vacation until the end so I left Malmstrom in December 95 and went right to school and started the January semester. But actually left the AF in March.

[@homertalk]

Thanks for the introduction!

[@0akgrove]

Enjoyed the intro.

[@scootertrash340]

I know that dude! We had some great times in the SAAB Mark!

[@KitplaneEnthusiast]

I miss that airplane!

[@scootertrash340]

Kitplane Enthusiast Same here Mark. It was a great flying airplane.

[@gordonwallace9746]

Looks like Gordon did all the heavy lifting

[@KitplaneEnthusiast]

Once I convinced him to actually take his hands out of his pockets he did help out. Of course, after he left I had to redo all his work!

[@markdoan1472]

Heavy lifting with airplane parts where the entire point is there is no heavy lifting lol ... Not like there working on a D 9 Caterpillar

[@jeremysteiner838]

Mark great vid again and look forward to this years build and nice personel story aswell. Do you use sheilded wire for your lights

[@johnreed8872]

Happy 2021 to you and yours Mark!!

[@martyburditt5866]

Mark, didn't know you were Air Force. I retired from the Air Force about five years after you started. I used to hate the 750, but now I'm probably going to build one. It's all your fault. With your plane (Blue Angel themed), I finally see that it's all in the paint scheme (and a few other things such as interior). I'm glad to here your views on priming the inside of the structure. I live in Michigan and really don't want to go through all that. Question -- Do you fly out of Flint or do you drive down to Metro when you work?

[@gregorygehrke1850]

Hi, Mark, thank you for your service. Is their any particular reason people aren’t using inertial reel 4 point seat belts? I realize the mechanism weights more, but thought the freedom of movement might be worth it. Thank you, have a safe prosperous 2021.

[@KitplaneEnthusiast]

I too would prefer an internal reel but I can only go with what Zenith offers. I'm not sure why they are not more common. I know the RANS S-7 has an inertial reel.

[@imtimrich]

Thanks for sharing,

[@keen1994]

Great vid! Good back story. .....and a 1,000,000 rivets later. Could you TIG weld most of the parts? I’m sure rivets are necessary for down the road inspections, but still.....1,000,000 etc! Just wondering.

[@slo6026]

You forgot to mention I was your favorite Captain to fly with!!! lmao....

[@ginacalabrese3869]

Would there be any way to retrofit something like the trailing link nose gear from the new nosewheel Carbon Cub? It seems to be really strong and can take a beating and actually seems to perform better than the traditional taildragger Cubs.

[@xxxyyyzzz7739]

I'm also interested in an update on your friend with the Velocity LS3 combo. Any updates?

[@eduprey1969]

Rule of thumb equals or greater thickness

[@thomasciarlariello]

What is your opinion of Urban Aerial Mobility EVTOLS of shaftless or rotorless ducted fans and Xcor Lynx spaceplanes since in of China they are building ramps for upward angular acceleration?

[@alexasselin6649]

Thanks for sharing and great update! Curious, Do you still have the Mooney?

[@KitplaneEnthusiast]

No I sold the Mooney when my Super Duty arrived.

[@flyod26]

I really want to build and RV-7. Can you please do a video about why you stopped building?

[@KitplaneEnthusiast]

Two reasons. First, I just didn't enjoy the project. Second, at a certain point two people are required for riveting. Sometimes I literally had to wait months to get someone to come over and spend a few hours riveting. I sold the RV project, bought a Cherokee 160 to fly, and then ordered the 750 Cruzer kit.

[@marcelheijmans6092]

@@KitplaneEnthusiast True, I'm building an RV-7 and since most of the rivets are solid (and my arms are not 6 feet long) you definitely need a second person for the Wings and some parts of the Fuse. However I'm working on my RV for 4 years (PH-MNX) and I really enjoy the project,specifically because my dad enjoys helping me. Hope to make first flight this year and curious to your progress on the SuperDuty.

[@flyod26]

@@KitplaneEnthusiast Thanks for taking the time to reply!

[@justindyster7073]

I am building a Bearhawk 4 Place. Love your channel. Can you share where you got those plastic snap bushings? Thanks.

[@KitplaneEnthusiast]

Search Amazon

[@justindyster7073]

@@KitplaneEnthusiast thanks

[@Beercook]

Great video! I'm starting my CH 750 STOL at the end of the month and have been using your videos as one of my references for my build. I know you're already spending a lot of extra effort filming and editing these videos, but may I make a suggestion? It would be great to add in video description section (or subtitles) the name of the product and amount of the product that you're using that isn't supplied with the kit. It would be really helpful. For example, what is the part number and length of wire the you bought for the position/recognition lights. A vendor would be icing on the cake. Thanks!

[@KitplaneEnthusiast]

David, I did mention in this video that the wire was purchased from AeroLEDs. I got all of my lights and wire from them.

[@Beercook]

@@KitplaneEnthusiast Thanks Mark for the reply, I saw the reference. I was just looking for more detail. It would be helpful for ordering in the future.

[@SpyGeorgilis]

Please, PLEASE tell me that your briefing before the F-16 ride went something like this: Pilot: "So, now we come to the ejection, in the unlikely event that we need to leave the aircraft" You: "Okay. What would you like to know?"

[@fyrstoppin]

What made you quite building the Vans? Was it something specific to that model or did it have to do with Vans overall? I’m about to order an RV10 kit and would love to hear your thoughts.

[@KitplaneEnthusiast]

Go for it. Nothing wrong with the Vans products. I just didn't like having to wait for months to get someone to come over and help me rivet.

[@charlescampbellii8193]

Latch ? Quik-Latch.com just an idea. When you move to Tucson your snap in grommets will Dry rot LOL

[@KitplaneEnthusiast]

Actually Tuscon is one of the places I'm looking to move in 10 years when I retire. I just want to move somewhere out West where I can fly my bush plane around everyday!

[@ginacalabrese3869]

@@KitplaneEnthusiast No kids and no wife to take half your money and stuff when she gets bored and are going to retire pretty young? Yep, sounds about right. My vasectomy was the best thing I've ever done. Makes it easier to not get trapped by someone with ulterior motives.

[@marceisenmann8010]

Hi Mark, I‘m just finishing a Rans S21 and already thinking about the next build, a RV8. Just wondering why you didn‘t like building your RV7?

[@KitplaneEnthusiast]

Nothing wrong with the kit or Vans at all-they produce an excellent product. I just didn't like the solid rivets. Sometimes I was ready to rivet and literally had to wait months to get help. So I bought the Cherokee to fly and then decided that with the Cherokee I just didn't need the RV, so I sold it.

[@kennethmcgowan1805]

How is the construction of your friends corvette velocity coming along.

[@KitplaneEnthusiast]

Good question! With the busy winter I haven’t talked to him in a while. I know a lot of people are waiting for an update and he just hasn’t been available for me to go over and film an update video. Believe me I’ve been asking him! I know his interior is finished and I believe he is waiting for a new gearbox. I’ll have more on the next update video (whenever that will be...)

[@kennethmcgowan1805]

Thanks for the information.. I enjoy your videos. I was a pilot 60 years ago. I discovered than it was beyond a teachers salary to provide food for a family and maintain the license. I do enjoy your channel. Keep up the great work.

[@gary24752]

Are the rivets a waterproof kind?

[@josem.soncini3622]

let me know when you're ready to sell your Cruzer after watching in youtube how a rolls royce is put together i think i want your cruzer

[@KitplaneEnthusiast]

The funny thing is you’re about the 10th person to post or email me about buying it! I’m still not sure if I’d ever sell it.

[@karlgrimm2856]

Do you send the steel parts to powder coat as you need them, or do you somehow figure out ahead of time which ones need it and send the whole batch? To be honest, I was a little overwhelmed with that box labeled "steel parts" for my Cruzer when I did inventory on the airframe kit that arrived 12/31/2020.

[@KitplaneEnthusiast]

I've just been taking them as I need them. The powder coat place is only a few minutes from my house so I get together a few parts at a time for the upcoming steps and drop them off.

[@bigmanue2291]

First I want to thank you for your service to our great country. Second I want to thank you for your videos. All my life I wanted to build my own plane but things just never fell into place to allow it and now father time has caught up to me so I live my dream through you and your videos. Thank you for allowing me to live out my dream.

[@KitplaneEnthusiast]

@@bigmanue2291 Thank you-your comment means a lot to me. I’ll do my best to keep making interesting and entertaining content!

[@scottmiller4711]

Mark, What is the model number for the 4 point harness you purchased?

[@KitplaneEnthusiast]

I'm not sure. When I was at the Zenith fly-in I just walked into the office and ordered it. I'm sure a quick call to Zenith will get you what you need!

[@scottmiller4711]

@@KitplaneEnthusiast Thought it might be on the box...

[@KitplaneEnthusiast]

@@scottmiller4711 I’ll look and see if it is when I get home.

[@kevenlonsdale1354]

I have a question when you get a chance. The question is how would you compare and contrast the RV-7 vs the CH-650. Using your experience with the CH-750 and CH-750SD

[@KitplaneEnthusiast]

Well it's apples and oranges. All I know is that I just didn't enjoy working on the RV. Maybe it was just the solid rivets. I didn't like them and I always had to wait for help for a riveting partner. Of course all of the Zenith's use pulled rivets so one person can is all that's needed. The is a top quality kit and faster than any Zenith, but for me the Zenith kits are simpler and a lot more fun to build.

[@kevenlonsdale1354]

@@KitplaneEnthusiast Thanks!!!!

[@dcrahn]

Any video on flap motor install?

[@KitplaneEnthusiast]

Not yet.

[@dcrahn]

@@KitplaneEnthusiast Thanks! I'm not a pilot, but I am considering building one just to do it. I'm a retired Sr. Master Craftsman with 42 years of service at Gulfstream Aerospace. Don't get me wrong, I love my retirement and freedom to do and go where and when I want to, but I do miss building planes. Plus I have loads of aircraft tools just sitting idle out in my shop

[@jms241965]

With your Bachelors degree, they couldn't get you an F16 pilot slot? Army pilot, switched over to the Air National Guard.

[@eduprey1969]

You must know Joe meadow, he fly for us.

[@jefffair4540]

Hey Mark, Are you still using the Southern Poly Epoxy Primer? What did you use to clean the gun up? Just order my tail kit for an RV7 thismorning and I cansee some priming in my future. Thanks

[@KitplaneEnthusiast]

I use the SPI reducer to clean the gun.

[@NAvionguy460]

Just wondering why you done powder coat your self?

[@KitplaneEnthusiast]

Because the steel has to be properly prepped.

[@littlewingpsc27]

I hope you had approval to share some of that history, and you don't get a knock on the door because of it.

[@KitplaneEnthusiast]

Cameras were not allowed in a 'real' missile sites. But they did allow us to take pictures at training sites and the Vandenberg facilities.

[@charlescashell5645]

You didn't mention the Mooney.

[@KitplaneEnthusiast]

I know. I also forgot the Kitfox, the Hummelbird, and the Wittman Tailwind!

[@charlescashell5645]

@@KitplaneEnthusiast We can't remember everything, Great vids!

[@carlmccall7198]

Hey i know that guy..

[@KitplaneEnthusiast]

Did you get your cowl painted yet??

[@carlmccall7198]

No not yet. I dont have the skill or the heated shop to do it.. i have some fiberglass work to do yet

[@chetmyers7041]

8:50 Is there ever a consideration for how many holes you can drill thru that "stiffening rib" before you compromise the strength??? PS, You are more interesting than Trent Palmer and don't fly like a "cowboy."

[@KitplaneEnthusiast]

Thanks Chet. I can't answer your question from a structural engineering perspective, but you'd have to put a LOT of holes in that angle before it stops doing what it's designed to do!

[@frankwgregoryiii6347]

Please don’t tell me you work for American Airlines

[@markdoan1472]

Not sure why you use up so much time smoothing edges ... vast majority dont get seen and it has zero effect to the structure visually or structurally .. The older I get the more I focus on the relevant , less on irrelevant

[@KitplaneEnthusiast]

To each their own. I prefer perfection even when it can't be seen.

[@markdoan1472]

@@KitplaneEnthusiast It has zero value in looks or function but huge in time wasting ....I used to be that way until I understood where time was better spent improving function .... say ..... I could build the same plane perfectly .. and add a ballistic chute with the time wasted on edges of aluminum ... plane is worth more and no one would say Im hiding the flaws because there are none .... Im a perfectionist where it counts and analyze time versus improvement ... smoothing edges is zero improvement for any measurable factor .... I try and get this to my employees as well

[@GoingToGenocideSLK]

Fatique life for aluminium parts is increased by smoothing the edges. Scratces, scores and sharp corners acts as stress risers and the risk of cracks forming is way higher by not taking the time to clean the edges. High cycle counts might not be the biggest problem for a homebuilt airframe so most builders would never experience fatique issues, but a new owner in the future might. Really enjoy this channel because it's done right.

[@mhilderbrand7693]

@@markdoan1472Interesting comment. When I was cleaning the edges on my Cruzer Wing ribs, the cost (time) vs benefit analysis definitely entered my mind - even though this is my third kit build with aluminum. Anymore, each of my parts don’t need to be buttery smooth, but most parts are darn close 😄. I will continue to clean my edges and round my corners. If nothing else, this will make my wife happy when helping me carry an aluminum skin, and possibly keep MY blood loss to a minimum.

[@johnreed8872]

@@markdoan1472 Mark... I can see some merit to your attention to the value of time spent. I suppose if you were building with a time constraint or as a business it would matter. Personally it's always in the back of my mind what somebody else might encounter while doing maintenance after I might sell. Also , I like to be able to reach into an access without the worry of sharp edges and unrounded corners. One last thing is that to me this is truly a labor of love and in a sick way I'll be a little sad when it's done ( probably end up a serial builder like Mark! ). I can't think of any better compliment while building an airplane than being called a " Perfectionist "!! Thanks for letting me add my opinions. Blue Skies!