Klymit Static V: My Beginner Backpacking Pad | Long Term Review

[@paddle_hike]

I have tons of pads... Includins $$$ ones like the Thermarest Uberlite and Xlite BUT.... I have the new version of the Klymite insulated static V (new inflating valve) and it's probably my favorite...(I'm NOT a beginner). Why?.... Well, very comfy for side sleepers, not $$, but also soooo easy to inflate,deflate and stuff the damn thing in the bag... the others are a pain to roll and stuff.

[@BackcountryForward]

I really appreciate this input! You’re right! It’s a great pad, beginner or otherwise! I don’t think it’s the best one out there personally, but I’ve appreciated my use of it. I have yet to try the thermarest series pads yet though, so hearing a comparison is helpful! Thanks for the comment and info for the Backcountry Forward community! Keep Moving Forward!

[@brdbrntrn]

Same here.

[@jamicrawford6729]

Yea, some of those overrated finance by the bank pieces of crap are no better than the Klymit. It's so damn insulting hearing all the "pros" say "for beginners". If half them had to use what we used in the 80s and early 90s they'd still be at home dreaming about backpacking. Just my opinion, like the "for the beginner" opinion

[@eviscerator8990]

I’m homeless and I use this pad and it is super comfortable with my sleeping system.

[@homie-gtv322]

Me too

[@davidfranco1308]

As a 180 pound man, I found the new insulated static V to be more than enough for me in the woods. I’ve slept many a night with no pad, just a wool blanket and a tarp in the woods. The simple fact of the matter is that I don’t go out into the woods to sleep like a king, I go to clear my mind and refresh myself for the work week. I feel that some of the backpacking community spend too much time looking at the specifics when you should just enjoy your time. Anyways great pad.

[@hodog175]

Been using this pad for years in the Military and love these pads. I have used them in the California Deserts at NTC and all over the US and in Europe. They are light and very comfortable, several of my fellow soldiers have purchased the same pad and we are all very happy with them. I highly recommend them.

[@kellyclinefelter]

Any punctures? Noticed this guy lays on it direct on gravel and was somewhat surprised to see that

[@hodog175]

@@kellyclinefelter the only problem I had was at NTC, the pumice rock out and thorny brush finally made mine leak.

[@JRoss707]

I just received my klymit v insulated lite that comes in at 19 oz. I have had the regular klymit v and used it on 100 miles of the JMT. I’m 6’ and 230 pounds, side sleeper, I do not bottom out the pad, it’s very comfortable imo, I’ve been backpacking off and on since my late teens. This is an excellent pad and a very decent price.

[@BackcountryForward]

Yes! Thank you! I know that people take about bottoming out... but honestly, I'm 170 and I don't have that issue. I also appreciate you input because one of my buddy tyler's thoughts on why he bottoms out was because he is a bigger guy than me. But clearly its just how he's using it, or having too high of expectations!

[@brdbrntrn]

Beginner? Why you consider it as a beginner pad? I have the most expensive and top-notch pad in the market and still Klymit Static insulated v lite is my favourite. I'm a side sleeper and never had an issue with this awesome pad. BTW I'm not beginner!!

[@milobookout267]

I've had the Insulated Static V Lite since 2018 and agree that the insulation is quite necessary, especially up north or in the shoulder seasons. It's a great entry level pad and after over 100 nights on these pads, between my girlfriend and myself, we've only had one pinhole leak in the fabric. The new flip valve is far easier to use and doesn't appear to leak at all. I'm not a big roller, but haven't had any issues rolling off and find it fairly comfortable regardless of how I sleep. Maybe not the best pad, but hard to beat for the money.

[@rpx8699]

I'm 6'1" (1.84m), 210lbs (95k), with a pretty spread out weight distribution (in spite of my recently acquired coronabelly). I have the same pad and I would give almost the exact same review ( I don't have the problems with the inflation valve). Side baffles don't keep you centered, but that's about it for the cons. Inflating it is always surprisingly fast, and no problems with the ground. I've only used it 6 times in cool and warm weather, but don't foresee any problems with comfort. It's a good pad.

[@BackcountryForward]

If you want to see a DIFFERENT Perspective on the Klymit Static V sleeping pads... go check out RemainingWild for all the reasons you SHOULDN'T get this pad! He's just launching his channel, so go show him some love and subscribe for more great content! kzbin.info/www/bejne/hWWugXluerGJaNU

[@BackcountryPilgrim]

I like this format, you guys are fun!

[@BackcountryForward]

Thanks man! It'd been a LONG time since me and Tyler shot something together! And this was a great opportunity to launch his channel!

[@mclostinthewoods]

I think it all depends on how you plan to use your pad. For warm weather, the Static V line is fine. I'm 6'2" and 230 lbs, and I'm comfortable on the V (and I'm a side sleeper). I think where Klymit gets into trouble is with their insulated pads. The welded baffles are "designed" to let your sleeping bag fill in the gaps to keep you warm. I don't think that actually works, and have heard plenty of folks echo that observation. The r-value for their insulated pads is the rating for the peaks of the baffles, not the welded gaps between the baffles, so there are significant gaps in the pad where cold air permeates. Like any hobby/sport, equipment gets upgraded as participants' experience and skill grow. Klymit pads are a perfectly good starting point for warm weather camping. I would not recommend their insulated pads. If you're a beginner and wanting to backpack in cold weather, get a decent insulated pad. That one is just a matter of safety. KZbin is replete with videos about the short list of "best" insulated pads, and it's worth spending the money if that's the kind of camping you plan to do.

[@sandraspears6389]

Love my insulated static v luxe. It has a much better valve, i find it very comfortable, even as a side sleeper.

[@BackcountryForward]

I've got one now with the updated valve system, and I'll agree it's much better. But still not perfect. I find it can leak air slowly if the twist part isn't locked properly and if they cover flap isn't sealed solidly. Should be a BIT more user friendly IMO. But a great pad! Keep Moving Forward!

[@BicycleTouringExplorer]

I am thinking about getting the Klymit Insulated Static V Sleeping Pad for the Bicycle Touring Trip in the USA And right now I'm using the Thermarest base camp sleeping pad

[@Red-Yo]

I don’t know if anybody said this but I appreciate the currency exchange you do to Canadian from American just that little extra touch but means all the difference🎉

[@BackcountryForward]

I got your back eh, bud! Wish I could get you a beer too. cheers 🍻

[@Randomstlhero]

I’m an avid backpacker, but I didn’t want to break the bank because I already did with my new pack and tent. 🤣 I’m pretty stoked to try this pad out once I get it.

[@BackcountryForward]

Can’t wait to hear how you feel about it! Let me know! I just got a new pad today myself!

[@Randomstlhero]

@@BackcountryForward I’ll let you guys know once I get a chance to test it out.

[@trakyboy5128]

Ok Jesse I'm going to give it to you from the hip !!! ( Old west talk for shooting it straight ). Like you I have tried a few. I'm a wee bit older than you and when I started out as a little boy there was no such thing u rolled out a piece of canvas or plastic and you laid on the ground, you moved the rocks until you got that hip spot just right. It's amazing what you can sleep through when you're little 🤪😂😊. I have two climate v pads. One is not insulated at all it's 30 in wide it's way long and I love it. But it's really more of a summer pad because air without insulation takes on ambient temperature and transfers it to your body. My other one is truly a winter or all year pad it is the static v lux SL.. it's 27 in wide and plenty long, and has a 6.4 r value. The valve systems are nothing like what the two of you showed on your pads so these are newer pads,, 2019. And I agree with you the side drills that to talk about are not any taller than the rest of the pad and do not stop you from rolling off. To me that's false advertisement. Having said that I love the pad it's very quiet I don't know what the weight is off hand but I really don't care my sleep is just too important to me !!! Each pad has a different valve design, and one has one for inflate and deflate. the other has one valve that does both and I really like that. The non-insulated takes a lot of huffing and puffing to fill up. The insulated one takes only a few and you're there. now here's some things I'm going to share with you and your friends.the first thing is that I've learned not to completely fill up the pad. your body won't stay on it as well and it doesn't contour to you.. I fill it just enough so that I'm not touching the ground but I can feel it contour to my hip which is the most important part. But inflate it to the point where I get some of the r value from it. Next I use a sleeping bag liner, as large as I need in order to act like a slip, and slide over the pad starting at the head and going down to the bottom. I found this allows me to move around on the pad more comfortably also for certain physical reasons I need to sleep in my birthday suit and I find that extremely comfortable. I've tried different liners until I found the one that had the right comfort for me. And didn't stick to me on warm nights. I also found it keeps the pad clean because I can throw the liner in the washer 😊👍🏽.Amazingly enough it does add a slight bit of warmth to the pads r value. I open my sleeping bag so that it is somewhat like a quilt and that is primarily how I sleep unless it is really cold. Then I'll zip the bag up. My bag is custom made it is a Convert by Enlightened equipment and designed to be used as quilt or bag.on the last vlog that I watched from you the discussion was pillows, we talked about that. For me my sleeping setup in my opinion is as comfortable and about as perfect as I'm going to find.... I'm happy with it. If I know that it's going to get very cold where I'm going I will take another enlightened equipment convert which is a 40° bag, the other I usually use is a 20° bag and I will put one inside the other.. it just doesn't get any warmer than that.. you can go down to zero and be nakedand that is great for me ☺️. ( I'm sorry if that was TMI 🤭 ). So what Jesse is ur pad of choice and y ??? Do u have a summer n winter pad?? We saw ur pillow pick , is the pad shown there ur pad choice ?? I have no idea what ur neck of the woods is like as far as sleep prep goes. But I bet some cold is part of the program 😇🧐. Keep up the good work and keep on rocking the free world ☺️

[@BackcountryForward]

hahaha Traky Boy I always look forward to your comments! This is some golden info here! I've never thought of using a sleeping bag liner on the sleeping pad itself. Good idea, especially with a quilt! The Static V Luxe SL has caught my eye on a number of occasions... especially with the R-Value and me being a cold sleeper and all! But I haven't bought it yet, because so far, I've been fairing okay with an R-Value of 4ish and enough layers in my sleep system. I layer my sleeping bags in winter too to keep me warm. Last year I tried my usual down 20f Teton Altos with my 20f synthetic Teton Trailhead (more like a 30f bag IMO). That kept me warm without a liner down to -5f. If I add the liner and some more clothes I think i could push it down to -20f. I've been looking at a few different backpacking quilts. I'm planning to get one (possibly a hammock gear one) for my thru-hike next summer! In the canadian rockies I usually have to use an insulated sleeping pad of some type year round. It can dip to freezing at any time in the year. BUT if I KNOW it's going to be warm at night or if I'm camping in the plains, my pad of choice is the Trekology Aluft UL80. Don't let the price fool you, that thing is designed so well, it just cradles you all night long! Most comfortable sleeps I've ever had in the backcountry! But it's far to cold for anything below 40f for me. I'm still looking for the "it" pad for me but my go-to right now is the Outdoor Vitals insulated mummy pad. It's 3.5" and 4 R-Value but just under 1lb. Like you mentioned, I find I have to inflate it to about 2/3 full to get the best night sleep and the warmest rating out of it. But I find that pad very comfy. And for $95US I think it's the best budget/beginner insulated pad on the market (review coming soon). But being affordable isn't everything, and it's not perfect for me. I'm not crazy about vertical baffles (I only found that out after buying that pad), and unfortunately due to the mummy design at the top being so narrow, my trekology pillow slides off all the times, which is really annoying. It might end up being the pad I take on the GDT next summer. But I'm also considering the NEMO Tensor or the Xlite or xtherm (I know, I know... chip bags all night long!). We'll see how the budge looks in the spring lol! Thanks again my friend for all the info! Keep Moving Forward!

[@trakyboy5128]

@@BackcountryForward sounds like ya still got sum plck'in ta do pardnr 🤪😀 u r so right about the baffle direction !!!!!! which is why I think you made a good choice for beginners pic 😃 vid. I'm curious what u would think of the Tensor. I thought i2 b "almost " 😊. Ha,ha, yes... Don't sleep on ANY Lay's potatoes chip bags !!!!! Ur hiking buddies just mite pack up and move in the middle of the night 🤣😂🧐. Wow a thru hike u lucky dog u !!!!!! 👍🏽👍🏽 I'm thinking that 2b a killer video 😋🤗. Well Jesse, peace and keep on rocking the free world ☺️

[@GusExplores]

I have camped all my life but only ever used closed cell foam or 1 of the self inflating mats. I am now nearly 40 and I am thinking comfort might help with getting a better sleep and have more energy for the next days hike. I love the look of the Klymit Insulated static V, the weight and size is amazing for its R value. It is not so thick that I will be worried about loosing too my much height in my 1 man tent. You said this was great for beginners. I am not a beginner and know I will have many years out of a new pad. What would you recommend for someone like me that wants small light gear but needs a decent R rating for camping all year in the Scottish mountains.

[@whatkjsaw4461]

The NEW insulated LIGHT weight version - mango orange coloured one has a new flat valve system.

[@BackcountryForward]

That's great to know! I've been thinking about getting one for a little while just to test it out! Good to know they've updated the valves!

[@whatkjsaw4461]

I started with the green one, decided I needed something insulated. I love that these mats are not too lofty because I can sleep with an arm or leg off the mat without any discomfort (and without noticing). In other words there is no ‘falling off’ or struggling to stay on.

[@BackcountryForward]

@@whatkjsaw4461 We had a similar journey then! I started with the regular (except mine was blue) and then upgraded to the insulated! They're great beginner pads. But I've since been upgrading to a few different options!

[@whatkjsaw4461]

@@BackcountryForward price here has been my decider, the Klymit Lite was $149, I’m pretty sure my favourite would be the nemo tensor insulated but I’m not ready to spend $280, (the neoair xlite costs $400 here and is too noisy).

[@BackcountryForward]

@@whatkjsaw4461 Where are you!? Those prices almost sound like Canadian prices! And I agree with you on the note of price. I've been in a similar place trying to make the decision. I'd love either the Xlite, Xtherm, or Tensor! Maybe one day.

[@radialorbits]

+1 for the background in this picture

[@BackcountryForward]

Only +1?!?! 😜 Thanks for the comment!

[@Francois_Dupont]

here is a lifehack for you: put a reflective blanket beneat your tent or even beneat your pad. it will be the exact same thing as those very very expensive "insulated" sleeping pad.

[@Mtlk77]

I just grabbed the klymit insulated static v recon certified refurbished on eBay for $40 and it has that new flat valve.

[@BackcountryForward]

$40! is INSANE! What a steal! Tell me how that flat valve works! Keep Moving Forward

[@evahayward-george2766]

I'm having trouble completely deflating with the flat valve. Also you know if there is an aftermarket pump?

[@Mtlk77]

@@evahayward-george2766 flex tail gear tiny pump off Amazon works. I’d give it 4 stars cause you have to hold it just right, but the adaptor works

[@TrailOff]

Great Video guys! I'm new here and trying to pick a pad and this really helped!!

[@BackcountryForward]

So glad this could help you out! And welcome to the community! If you ever have any other questions don't hesitate to reach out either here or over on Facebook/Instagram! Keep Moving Forward ~ Jesse

[@2laughandlaugh]

I use a cut down closed cell foam pad under my Static V. Just enough to go under my hips and shoulders.

[@BackcountryForward]

Interesting. Do you feel like you need extra comfort in those areas?

[@2laughandlaugh]

@@BackcountryForward yeah...just a bit....but I also use the foam pad for a large sit/ kneeling pad while at camp. So much nicer that those tiny sit pads. I just cut down an old Thermarest Z-lite.

[@BackcountryForward]

@@2laughandlaugh great tips! Adds more warmth too I bet!

[@2laughandlaugh]

@@BackcountryForward yes it does..just did 3 nights on the AT in Virginia near the mountain called the " Priest".it got pretty chilly but i stayed toasty.

[@MattyOutdoors]

You're sleeping on the ground bro.. You're never going to get "the best sleep ever" 😉 I've gotta agree with Tyler on this one, I found the klymit pads not overly comfortable compared to other pads. I'm not sure if its the insulated or non insulated that I tried out, but as fully inflated as i could get it, my hip hit the ground

[@BackcountryForward]

Dude! I don't know how I missed responding to this! haha One day I'll be suspended in sweet mid-air bliss! Honestly, I've heard a lot of complaints about them, but I've genuinely never had that problem. Like sure, as I'm adjusting I might bottom out a bit, but once I level my weight out, I'm lofty off the ground. But I will admit it's not the MOST comfortable mat I own. But not too shabby either IMO.

[@mysterylovescompany2657]

Oh, I dunno; I have a $6K bed, & I still sleep _almost_ as well on my Sea To Summit Comfort DLX once you remove the issues of night noise & early sun through the tent. But sadly, that thing is _not_ practical for hiking, it's a bit of a beast.

[@DieTabbi]

Good review. But is the v shape not a downside? The area between is so thin and can‘t insulate?

[@venturefree.]

Nice video man looking to try a new air pad bought one a while back it didn't last but 2 trips Not sure if I placed it on something that punctured it or my dog I take backpacking with me Thinking of using my foam pad under it to protect it also it probably would add some warmth

[@BackcountryForward]

Hey man, sorry to hear that! The klymit pad popped?! They have a lifetime warranty on it that's supposed to be pretty good and quick to get replaced. Maybe reach out to them? The foam pad is a great idea for extra warmth for sure! But sure adds some bulk! Thanks for the comment, keep moving forward!

[@TheForester71]

I was hoping the sides would keep me on the pad. Question answered, thanks. I have more expensive pads I can roll off of.

[@BackcountryForward]

Precisely why I say it’s a good beginner pad. Not good if you’ve got better options! Glad I could help! Keep Moving Forward

[@mikeevans6089]

I think this pad is great for anyone.. not just beginners. Good pad for anyone trying not to break the bank. Definitely wouldn't consider this a "beginners" pad..

[@BackcountryForward]

When I say "beginners" I certainly don't mean that I'm excluding everyone else. But just that it's a great option for someone looking for their first pad! I prefer other pads though as you learn more and more about what you find comfortable in a pad! What's your go to pad?

[@Tom-tt1vg]

I just bought this at Walmart and hoping its good

[@Soyadrengene]

What a beautiful view behind you. Where is this?☺

[@BackcountryForward]

Skoki Valley Banff National Park in the fall!

[@jeftownsend1763]

I like your video, but calling something a budget Pad for beginners because it cost less is not a fair assessment. I have tried multiple packable insolated sleeping pads and by no means is this a beginner pad, it is one of my favorite pads. I gave my nemo tensor to my son after buying this pad for him, I slept better on this pad, no cold spots and no sore spots from sleeping on my side.

[@BackcountryForward]

Thanks so much for your comment and feedback! For some reason many people have misunderstood my statements on this topic often. Often it's the word "budget" that get's people. But "Budget" I don't mean "cheaply made"... I simply mean it's more affordable and won't "break the bank". It's a more affordable option than some/most of the pads out there. As for "beginner", this also doesn't mean its "bad" or "only good for your first trip"... on the contrary! I think gear that will keep you comfortable on your first trip is great gear that'll also keep you comfortable on your 21st trip! Beginner just means its a good place to start for those feeling overwhelmed by all the gear choices. It also means its "well-rounded". There's more "niche" gear that's for very specific occasions that some special high-end pad might be purposely designed for (ie. extreme winter expeditions, or when someone really needs to go "ultralight", etc.). But saying its a good "beginner" pad means its good for those just starting out (which is who my channel is aimed at). It DOESN'T mean its good ONLY for beginners. It's like me saying, "this beer is good for those who like sweeter beverages." That doesn't mean that someone who hates coke is going to hate this beer, it just means that people who like coke might be a bit more fond of this beer than a really strong and bitter ale. (That's a poor analogy, but I hope it comes across, lol). Either way, we totally agree on this point! This is a great pad for anyone looking for a good well-rounded pad; beginners and others alike. It's also more affordable than some options, but well made (even though mine did end up leaking, but they replaced it). I still have this pad and still use it! And I agree, better sleeps on this than my Xlite! That's for sure! Thanks again for the input! I hope that makes things clear! Keep Moving Forward! Cheers, Jesse

[@mysterylovescompany2657]

I really want to try this pad (the insulated version; I am most definitely a cold sleeper) for Winter bushwalking - can I call it hiking if there's no mountains involved? - because I need something warmer than my Prolix hex-cell (identical to the Sleepingo), but I am not employed so at AU$66 for the blackish-blue one (no idea why the same model in true black is over 2.5 times the price, my poor gothic heart 😭), the price is definitely right. I have a _very_ damaged spine (struck by a car; 6 fractures + a minor cord laceration), but all the rave reviews that it's surprisingly plush from much heavier ppl than me - some of them multiple times my bodyweight (at 60kg[132lb] + 179cm[5,9"] but curvy + broad-shouldered, I am, as they say, a bit of a skinny Minnie) - have given me tentative hope. Would you personally suggest this pad from someone with back pain, but who sleeps okay on a Sleepingo clone in warm weather (it's thin, but supportive, so I only actually feel the ground while shifting around)? Zero liability for your opinion, obviously. {Edited: I'm such a derp that I'd gotten my own height wrong.}

[@mysterylovescompany2657]

* _for_ someone with back pain

[@BackcountryForward]

Great question! Like you alluded to, obviously I'm no doctor, and each person's back situation is different. That being said.... I too have a serious back injury (a broken L4 vertebrae) and I have never had a problem with this pad. Ironically, that was not the case with my recent foray into use the famous Thermarest Xlite, which gave me some of the worst sleeps I've had in that backcountry. But the Static V's have done me good. So my personal opinion is, you are good to go! If you're used to using the sleepingo pad, you'll find this one quite similar actually. It will definitely be much warmer than your current uninsulated pad, but it isn't the warmest pad on the market to be sure (with its price its sort of a middle ground). I still highly recommend putting a mylar blanket underneath it for some extra warmth. Or if you really want luxury, a thin layer of rolled up foam! That being said, I've personally used this for years with only mylar underneath and a good warm sleeping bag/system. If you do buy it, feel free to click the affiliate link in the description as it helps the channel out a lot! Peace my friend, and Keep Moving Forward! Jesse

[@mysterylovescompany2657]

@@BackcountryForward I actually marry the best of both worlds together for underneath my Prolix by using a foil-topped mat; basically, mylar bonded to that cheap, white, flexible sheet-foam often used for wrapping furniture during the packaging process, with satin binding around the edges. Admittedly cheaper by several fathoms than a Ridgerest or Z-Lite (I think it cost me AU$12 for my180cm[approx.71in]Lx65cmW[approx.25in] roll for just my mattress in chilly weather, + like AU$50 for a 240cmL[approx.8ft]sq one for flooring my whole tent in really cold weather), but most of the same core benefits, just a little bit "less so". Given its flimsiness, it's lasting me surprisingly well, & it packs down considerably smaller than those 2...tho admittedly not so compact as a mylar sheet! I am experimenting with sewing 2 of those sheets into a slipcase for my 10cm car-camping pad using dental floss, however, to try to get wrangle even more stopgap insulation while I found a proper, dedicated cold-weather pad. But as someone who will never have to sleep on snow, or below 1dC[approx.30dF], then with a decent sleeping bag, the insulated V Static should do just about right by me (...though there is admittedly another insulated pad by Paria, resembling the lovechild of a Nemo Tensor + a Thermarest NeoAir Xlite & universally well-reviewed, which looks pretty seductive for only AU$125 _if_ I can bring myself to part with it). Thanks for your opinion, Jesse; as an experienced hiker it's so very much valuable to this n00b + super, super appreciated! And though unfortunately I am myself a SkippyLand-er 🇦🇺 + thus buying things from the US Amazon site costs me a fortune in unnecessary shipping when almost all the same stock is available from our one for less, I hereby solemnly vow that if any of my US or otherwise international friends ever asks me about this pad, I promise to send them to this video so that you can hopefully get both the commission _and_ the views. Happy trails, friend.💛 P.S. You're super underrated & deserve more subscribers, FWIW.

[@BackcountryForward]

@@mysterylovescompany2657 those are some great ideas! I’ve worked in construction and there’s something similar we use for building up here! I should check it out! And thank you thank you thank you fir your kind words and support! I appreciate it! Keep Moving Forward my friend! Ps. Just FYI my links SHOULD work for Australia and it’ll bring you to AUS website. 🙂 Cheers!

[@mysterylovescompany2657]

@@BackcountryForward oh, I'll definitely check them out, then! Thanks for the tip!😁 And my pleasure; you produce quality content which I really enjoy - & don't we all just need a little affirmation from time to time? ATB, dear chap. Stay healthy & safe.💛

[@ifitsnotbrokenfixit1193]

Great video thanks

[@BackcountryForward]

Thanks man!

[@hoser7706]

So what is the most comfortable sleeping pad you have used? Curious to find out

[@BackcountryForward]

Great question. I plan on doing a review on it this spring. But it's this one: geni.us/Qbht Only downside... it's not insulated. So I rarely can use it. But it's by far my most comfortable mat! Keep Moving Forward! ~Jesse

[@mintheman7]

Real R value according to ASTM standard is actually 1.9, less than half of the claimed 4.4. I’m skipping this pad just for their false advertising.

[@michaelbanner7440]

I'm under 6 ft wide shouldered barely fits my feet

[@alzathoth]

how about Klymaloft vs insulated static V comparison? you mention your favorite sleeping pad. what is it?

[@BackcountryForward]

At 2.41lbs the klymaloft might be more comfortable, but for that weight I'd never take it backpacking... I don't care if it makes me fart rainbow kittens the next day that's just too dang heavy! 🤣 (Just my opinion.) BUT if they sent me one I'd test it car camping and maybe review it. My favourite pad is sadly not insulated so its not good for anything but warmer climates (which sadly the Canadian Rockies are not...). But it's the trekology aloft ul80! Super cheap... but heck its the most comfortable pad I've slept on! You can check it out here: geni.us/Qbht

[@alzathoth]

@@BackcountryForward if it wasn't for the high cost i would buy a klymaloft to try it out i REALLY like to sleep well while on the trail. for the 12oz difference in weight compared to the trekology, that really doesnt matter, IMO. thanks for the fast reply! and thanks for the video! you got a new sub today! :)

[@JamesKing-gu7ho]

mine popped 2 inches from the value, it didn't last one season of camping

[@russellpilling8749]

what was your favourite pad you have used?

[@BackcountryForward]

Great question! Well I’m constantly testing new sleeping pads... I just bought a new Nemo Tensor this weekend. But SO FAR my favorite sleeping pad is the Trekology Aluft UL80! That thing is SO comfy! But... it’s not insulated, so I can only use it on trips where I KNOW it’s not going to be near freezing (which is rare in the Canadian Rockies). So I usually use an insulated sleeping pad, and so far my favorite is the Outdoor Vital insulated mummy pad. But the klymit is a close second.

[@russellpilling8749]

@@BackcountryForward Great, thank you! I've camped a few times out in Waterton, Kananaskis, and Ghost. Even the summer nights are cold (frost in August anyone?). So I would definitely be looking for an insulated one. Good luck this weekend! You might even be able to use your summer pad if you're in K-country! Which part of the rockies do you normally go to? I saw you went to Peter Lougheed in the winter so I'm assuming anywhere within driving range from Calgary.

[@BackcountryForward]

@@russellpilling8749 Yeah, freezing temps are a constant potential in the rockies. lol that's why I'll only use an insulated pad there. I use the Aluft 80 only if i'm in the prairie regions... or if weather is forecasting temps at night above 5c in the rockies (took it on Tonquin Valley last year and each night was 7C so it was amazing!). Peter Laugheed is where I got my love for the mountains K-country is my preferred playground... but I'm actually in Edmonton. So anything north of K-country is generally where I go. Mostly K-country or Bighorn/Abraham lake area.

[@waynegilby4036]

No I own 1 and used it 4 times park camping only never abused an a hole formed and leak

[@BackcountryForward]

I'm sorry to hear that Klymit has a lifetime warranty. They will replace it for you if you reach out to them!

[@fubringbackdownvotecounts3379]

Where are you in this video? It's beautiful...

[@BackcountryForward]

Banff national park Canada. You can check out a fun little trip video from that same location here if you’d like to see more: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5KraJ2prLunm9E

[@fubringbackdownvotecounts3379]

@@BackcountryForward Will do. Thanks

[@matthewhebbert9712]

Most of the focus on these reviews seems to be warmth and R value. I appreciate that, but warmth isn't my concern. Nobody seems to talk much about plain old comfort and support. I'm 6'6", and float around 300lbs. I'm a super hot side-sleeper. I don't do a lot of winter camping. At home, I'll sleep with the window open when it is 50F, with my feet and legs kicked out, and I'm comfortable. I also don't do much winter camping. Mostly summer and fall, when it's close to 100F during the day, maybe 50s at night. My biggest concern, therefore, is support and comfort. Being as big as I am, are these comfortable to sleep on? Or am I just gonna feel like I'm sleeping on bare ground and rocks? If heat isn't a factor, are these going to be comfortable to sleep on for me?

[@BackcountryForward]

My buddy Tyler’s video talks a lot more about comfort. He personally doesn’t find them comfortable at all. I’ll admit they are not the MOST comfortable pads on the market, but I’ve always found them decent. But my big concern on your end is the height. Your feet might be off the end…. They do make these in the static V luxe which might be a bit more comfortable for you it’s wider and a bit taller I believe with some added cushion/height.

[@Youlube87]

66° North 👍

[@BackcountryForward]

I'm loving that polar fleece so far! It's amazing! (Ps. I talk more about some of their gear in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i522mWWPf7-WaLc) Keep Moving Forward!

[@Youlube87]

@@BackcountryForward I love 66°North. Great brand that I discovered while travelling to Iceland. I just watched some of your videos and never realized how much I was missing by not travelling to the west side of Canada. As a Montrealer, I found it cheaper to travel overseas. BC, AB are definitely on my bucket list.

[@BackcountryForward]

@@Youlube87 you'll definitely have to come out! It's beautiful. Iceland is on my list for sure! (Sorry... not so much Montreal 😆😜) Keep Moving Forward!

[@Youlube87]

@@BackcountryForward Nothing much to do in Montreal tbh...loll Where was the video recorded? How far is it from Vancouver? Is it a nice place to trek?

[@BackcountryForward]

@@Youlube87 It's a bit of a ways from Vancouver. This was in the backcountry in Banff National Park on a trail called Skoki Loop Trail. It. Was. Stunning. You can watch the full video fo the trip here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5KraJ2prLunm9E

[@DailyMynt]

They actually sell these at Walmart now

[@BackcountryForward]

Good to know!

[@erichross672]

What a cappy mat how shotty

[@BackcountryForward]

Really? Why don't you like it?

[@erichross672]

@@BackcountryForward it popped by the air nozzle on the top of the mat. I slept on it 60 nights but I guess 75 cents per use is OK just wish it'd last longer

[@BackcountryForward]

@@erichross672 That's too bad. But that definitely is some good use if you ask me. Obviously, longer is better! BUT Klymit has a lifetime warranty. Just notify them and they'll replace it. For some reason mine started leaking randomly after several years of use and no matter how hard I tried I couldn't find the leak to patch. I finally reached out to them, they said I could either send it to them and they'd send me a new one upon inspection. Or, I could just pay $25 and they'd send me a replacement. Which is what I did. That's pretty good deal IMO.

[@gregcorrea8512]

This pad is garbage. I just got two and they both don’t hold air and deflate over night. I would not recommend!!