KMS Admiral Hipper - Guide 080

The Admiral Hipper class, heavy cruisers of the Kriegsmarine, are today's subject.
Next on the list:
-KMS Prinz Eugen
-Yamato class
-Italia class
-Tsesarevich
-Βασίλισσα Ολγα (Basilissa Olga)
-Nagato class
-Monitor Parnaiba
-G-class destroyer
-HMS Glowworm
-Town class cruisers
-USS Wichita
-Lord Nelson class
-Essex class
-Slava (Pre-dreadnought)
-USS Massachusetts
-Pensacola class
-HIJMS Oyodo
-Riachuelo (NB)
-I-19
-HMS Ark Royal
-ORP Błyskawica
-USS West Virginia
-Amagi Class
-Tosa Class
-Alaska class
-Derfflinger class
-Yorktown class
-Tre Kronor class
-Nelson class
-Gato class
-Admiralen class
-H class (NB)
-Greek 'Monarch' class destroyers
-'Habbakuk' project
-USS Texas
-USS Olympia
-HIJMS Mikasa
-County class
-KMS Tirpitz
-Montana class
-Florida class
-USS Salt Lake City
-Storozhevoy
-Flower class
-USS San Juan
-HMS Sheffield
-USS Johnston
-Dido class
-Hunt class
-HMS Vanguard
-Mogami class
-Almirante Grau
-Surcouf
-Von der Tann
-Massena
-HMCS Magnificent
-HMCS Bonaventure
-HMCS Ontario
-HMCS Quebec
-Lion class BC
-USS Wasp
-HMS Blake
-HMS Romala/Ramola
-South Dakota (1930's)
-SMS Emden
-Väinämöinen and Ilmarinen
-Destroyer Velos
-U.S.S. John R. Craig
-C class
-HMS Caroline
-HMS Hermes
-Iron Duke
-Kronprinz Erzerzorg Rudolph.
-HMS Eagle
-Ise class
-18 inch monitor
-Mogami
-Vanguard
-De Zeven Provinciën
-South American Dreadnoughts
-Fletcher class
-USS Langley
-Kongo class
-Grom class
-St Louis class
-H class special
-All-big-gun designs
-USS Oregon
-Gascogne
-Alsace
-Lyon and Normandie classes
-Leander class
-HMS Ajax
-Project 1047
-O class
-R class
-Battle class
-Daring class
-USS Indianapolis
-Atago/Takao
-Midway class
-Graf Zeppelin
-Bathurst class
-RHS Queen Olga
-HMS Belfast
-Aurora
-Imperator Nikolai I
-USS Helena
-USS Tennesse
-Von der Tann
-HMNZS New Zealand
-HMS Queen Mary
-USS Marblehead
-New York class
-L-20e
-Abdiel class
Specials:
-Fire Control Systems
-Protected Cruisers
-Scout Cruisers
-Naval Artillery
-Tirpitz (damage history)
-Treaty Battleship comparison
-Warrior to Pre-dreadnought
-British BC Ammo Handling
-Naval AA Special
-Plan Z

[@kyle857]

People often forget that obsolete does not mean "Can't still kill you."

[@madwolf0966]

terry waller I mean bullets just pass through the damn thing!

[@ParabolicBox]

@terry waller It wasn't that ancient. It was designed in the 30s. Such was the speed of the paradigm shift.

[@derekhenschel3191]

@terry waller a musket can turn your internal organs into pink mist. A 45 can kill you

[@patrickmcleod111]

**That's where you are wrong dude! I was almost the victim of a drive by shooting a few years ago, but fortunately for me, the 4 gunmen were using obsolete MP-40 submachine guns. Sure, they use modern 9mm ammo, which can easily kill you, but its completely irrelevant if the gun is obsolete! Sure enough, they sprayed me with dozens of 9mm rounds from just 30 feet away, but since the guns were obsolete, the bullets all just bounced right off me!** Yep.... Reminds me of the Iraq war, where Iowa class battleships were firing Tomahawk missiles and 16 inch high explosive shells. The missiles and 2300lb shells landed directly on the enemy positions, but with absolutely no negative effects on the enemy soldiers, because of the battleships being obsolete! Lol

[@patrickmcleod111]

@terry waller I was joking.

[@tricap1542]

I have to say that having the silhouettes of heavy cruisers and battleships exactly the same was brilliant.

[@Scoobydcs]

Worked perfectly in the Denmark straight

[@jimtaylor294]

Kind of. PoW didn't make the same error. Worth noting too that just one 15"/42 or 14"/45 round on target, would've made Prinz Eugen's career dramatically shorter. (see HMS Defence & the Regia Marina's Frume & Zara for why Cruisers were typically kept away from hostile Capital Ships where possible)

[@toriasygramul7128]

A point of irony: the guns of Oscarborg that sank the Blücher had been manufactured by Krupp.

[@ralphkerr6809]

And the torpedoes were Austria Hungarian

[@cookiecraze1310]

The torpedoes sunk it, but even then (As the reply above says) they were Austro-Hungarian...

[@mel.3687]

That just goes to show that guns and ammo have no allegiance. Like all the guns and ammo the US sold the Germany in WW2

[@ajvanmarle]

The movie: The King's Choice shows the scene. They even found an actor that could have been a twin of the actual commander.

[@kevinhoffman6592]

I see a few folks remember torpedoes. Lol

[@kebabsvein1]

The Colonel of Oscarsborg knew What he was doing. He knew the battery well. And the forts most effective weapon, a submerged torpedo battery was a closely guarded secret. Even though most of the people manning the fort were recruits their two commanders were professionals.

[@Warriorking.1963]

And luck wasn't on the German's side either, the torpedoes used to sink the Blucher had just returned to the fort the day before, after being subjected to an extensive check and full service. So when the Blucher came up against them, they were as efficient as was possible.

[@oveonkli4814]

Bullshit

[@oveonkli4814]

Blucher sank aldri 9 april 1940, skipet ble satt på land ved DIGERUD. Sjekk første siden til Aftenposten 9. april. Skipet ble slept til Kiel for reparasjon.....

[@oveonkli4814]

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[@longboardinghhb]

@@oveonkli4814 hvis skipet ble slept bort hvorfor ligger det i oslofjorden fortsatt?

[@Hamchunk1968]

Yes. A number of us have stated that if we were ever in the German navy, we would avoid serving on any ship named Blücher. 😄

[@Hardcase_Kara]

For as bad as the German Surface Fleet was due to its size you have to admit them managing to make these ships out of how limited in size their fleet was is something truly amazing since they didn't have the resources like the other nations it is also memorable and it also has to be remembered that many times the fleet capital sjips were sent on either their own or extremely light escorted so it was asking for trouble how many of them survive to 1944 and 1944 is a miracle in my opinion.

[@Drachinifel]

Yeah, they basically had a 15 year gap where the institutional knowledge of how to build ships was lost, they had to start over from scratch, it's a reasonable credit to them that (apart from dodging stern construction) their ships were competitive in most areas, just overweight for the firepower.

[@sarjim4381]

They were also lacking in good quality anti aircraft batteries. The original C/30 20 mm guns were very poor guns with a small magazine of just 20 rounds. That made them have a practical rate of fire of only about 120 rounds a minute. The C/38 models was a much improved gun, especially when used with the sophisticated quad mounting. It had a 40 round magazine and doubled the rate of fire per barrel compared to the C/30. Allied airmen soon learned to give German vessels used to escort submarines in and out of the Bay of Biscay a wide berth to avoid the fire of these guns. However, it was only when the German Navy started manufacturing Oerlikon 20 mm guns reverse engineered from army models that they had a truly effective single barrel hand swung model. It had a rate of fire of 450 rounds a minute, twice as fast as any German designed gun. As usual,, there were too few produced too late to make much difference. The 37 mm SK C/30 guns were hand loaded with very slow rates of fire and a poor mounting with a failed triaxial mount. The later KM 42 and KM 43 37 mm FLAK versions were much improved but came very late in the war when most of the surface fleet had been lost or decommissioned. The 105 mm guns had the potential to be excellent antiaircraft gun but, once again, they were in a triaxial mount that was too difficult to manufacture and just didn't work well in practice. The gun housing was poorly designed, being open at one end and allowing water to get in and ruin the electrical systems. Too few were manufactured to replace war losses as the war wound down for improvements in the 105 mm gun housing and fire control system to make any difference. In addition to luck, the Prinz Eugen survived as the only large surface vessel of the German navy by continuing improvements in her anti aircraft batteries. All the 37 mm guns were replaced with the German version of the Bofors 40 mm gun and the earlier C/30 and C/38 20 mm with the FLAK 28 and 29 models covering any empty spaces on the deck. While operating in the Baltic in the closing moths of the war, she was able to do impressive shore bombardment missions against the advancing Russian army while fighting off hordes of Russian aircraft due to her much improved anti aircraft batteries and radars.

[@vitkriklan2633]

My friend, most of them stayed afloat so long because they spent most of the war in port having no fuel. In 1942 the monthly fuel deficit of the KM amounted some 116 000 tons. They barely had fuel for the U-Boot force which had priority.

[@meatusbeatus5548]

“...The Prinz Eugen, seems to have vampirically sucked all the luck from the rest of the class.” Up until the whole nuclear test dummy thing, that is.

[@funbro99]

Even then...she Survived it but had a leak and due to radiation...could not be saved Hence it sanked so it could Still be luck.

[@yousefseed1874]

It took two nukes to sink her. Prove that German Engineering is superior

[@funbro99]

@@yousefseed1874 it wasnt even nukes that sunk her...she Survived it but a leak that could not be fixed due to the radiation got her... otherwise had she Survived it would likely take more Its basically the world of warship when you die by flooding rather than the initial torpedo salvos

[@yousefseed1874]

@@funbro99 if there's flooding, there should be a counter-flooding measures but no, the Americans decided to use the best heavy cruiser ever built as a nuke target. It's like the USN doesn't care about their ships more than glorious yet efficient Kriegsmarine

[@funbro99]

@@yousefseed1874 thats the thing...the leak was basically a mercy slow bleeding shot Since they couldnt fix the leak it essentially bleed out... exactly what happens in world of warship (the game) when you've used your repairs and Still getting flooded You slowly bleed to death and then die

[@megatronsdragon]

Yes Prinz Eugen absorbed all the luck of the rest of the class only to be NUKED

[@Drachinifel]

And survive :)

[@mikeholton9876]

yep, she's still there though, you can see her (maybe even at night lol)

[@jvtagle]

Drachinifel she was definitely a tease 😄

[@jimtaylor294]

Arguably the WWI veteran Nagato attained the same feat, in far worse material condition.

[@73Trident]

@@jimtaylor294 Nagato did not see action in WWI. Laid down 1917, launched 1919 and commissioned 1920.

[@bobrobert1123]

The low-key British snark on this channel is quite charming

[@ForrestTaft101]

Low key? He an imperialist

[@Wayoutthere]

I still find the Hippers VERY aesthetically pleasing imho.

[@FRAGIORGIO1]

My father worked on the electrical system of Prinz Eugen in Long Beach, California, in 1946 before she went to the Bikini Atoll tests. He worked there only briefly, but had this contact with the famous cruiser.

[@Chironex_Fleckeri]

Your commentary got me into naval history! This channel inspired me to go down the rabbit hole that is World of Warships...

[@jackclingenpeel5020]

So much better with a human voice!

[@Rohrkrepierer88]

In my understanding where the german ship hulls normally bigger build to make it a more stable gun platform , since a bigger ship moves less in the waves . Because they where made to operate in an area thats known for the rough seas . Its often hard to compare them with pacific ships because of that . I remember that the Bismarck class ships where actually the biggest possible to be build by their limitations . Shipyard size and the ability to cross the kaiser wilhelm channel . Also a bigger vessel can house more compartments wich slightly gives it more survivability .

[@jimtaylor294]

Germany was also playing catchup with the RN in warship design, which was also a factor in the less efficient design. The British by contrast had benefitted from the 1922 & 1930 treaties being geared to accomidate their unique operational needs for Cruisers, as numbers mattered more than pure size. (which was proved right at the River Plate, with the largest Cruiser being mission killed by mostly smaller opponents, and then scuttled as soon as word of an approaching Battlecruiser hit home, the same type of ship that had slain the ship's namesake admiral a generation prior)

[@KlunkerRider]

4:00 watch the movie "The Kings Choice" depicts the demise of the Blucher in spectacular fashion.

[@BobSmith-dk8nw]

I'll do that! .

[@wojtekimbier]

Thanks for mentioning it!

[@Thenotsofamousone]

i wish i could watch that movie ;-;

[@stanstenson8168]

Great movie. You can watch it on KZbin for free.

[@somebloke3869]

I had a model of both the Admiral Hipper and the Bismarck. Seeing them both close together I could understand how someone could mix them up.

[@jimtaylor294]

Only Hood did though. PoW, Suffolk, Norfolk & the four Destroyers didn't, though as it was timing & weather had it that only two of the eight RN ships present engaged.

[@ajsnagratin6504]

@@jimtaylor294 Did you mean Duke of York and not PoW?

[@jimtaylor294]

@@ajsnagratin6504 No. DoY was still being fitted out at the time of this battle. My point was PoW engaged the correct target from the start, while the Bismarck's similar outline to her escort - and looking roughly the same size due to position - confused the Gunners on Hood for several minutes.

[@proleterriert8075]

Big up light cruiser HMS sheffield for taking on this heavy cruiser and a destroyer by itself and coming out with essentially two kills.

[@DIEGhostfish]

That Norwegian fortress did a favor to horses everywhere.

[@theswordguy5269]

I'd love a very early Treaty cruiser comparison video, say County versus Pensacola classes. Historically, the design choices each nation made - compromises, really - to get the displacement down and still produce a battle ready design are quite interesting. Toss in the Japanese Kakos and you've got a really interesting set of comparisons.

[@johnreske1558]

Found drach. Now catching up on old posts. Always informative

[@darrynreid4500]

I find myself enjoying the story of the sinking of Blucher while at the gym more and more as I get older.

[@davidorama6690]

These and the Bismarck class were very handsome ships...

[@bskorupk]

"It's not really hard to fire guns, but it's immensely hard to make the decision to fire." "Damn straight we're firing live ammunition." "Either I will be decorated, or I will be court-martialed. Fire!"

[@vikkimcdonough6153]

As it turned out, he was both court-martialed (and acquitted) _and_ decorated.

[@ZESAUCEBOSS]

reading the Prinez Eugen's history the first time: "oh wow what a lucky ship................. oh nevermind"

[@glennricafrente58]

Just a small correction: The two cruisers that defended Convoy JW 51B were one Town class (HMS Sheffield) and one Crown Colony class (HMS Jamaica) -- not a pair of Town class cruisers.

[@mel.3687]

Thank you for an enjoyable documentary yes your right I am now looking for Prinz Eugen

[@josephstevens9888]

The Admiral Hipper class of heavy cruisers - despite their bad luck - were some of the most beautiful warships ever built. One thing, however, what bothered me about the design of those ships; the large number of portholes. One would think portholes on a warship would be a design liability? I heard that at the beginning of WW2, the U.S. Navy welded over the portholes on their combat vessels.

[@artcampbell5315]

remember "frau bluecher" from "young Frankenstein?" i can hear the horses now!

[@robertparisi324]

The Admiral Hipper class of Heavy Cruisers was an example of a lot more weight than its English County class and American New Orleans class counterparts. An additional 20 meters of length with no added capabilities seems difficult to justify given the additional 5-6k tons of displacement. One might have speculated that the Germans planned on up-gunning this class to an 11" main armorment but it had inadequate beam for 3-gun mounts of that caliber. 240 mm maybe, but the Germans didn't install that caliber on any WW2 Kriegmarine vessels. For the added length the Hipper class should have offered greater speed and/or range, while with the extra 5-7k tons displacement, a protection arrangement equal to the U.S. Baltimore Class Heavy Cruisers should have been easily achieved but wasn't.

[@123Jokkmokk123]

The sinking of the Blucher proved that old tigers can stil bite back!

[@McRocket]

I agree 100% with the efficiency point. While the 'pocket battleships' and the Scharnhorst's seemed good value for their tonnage. The Hipper's and the Bismarck's seemed almost ludicrously big for nothing special in return. Or, in other words, lousy bang's for the buck's. Thanks very much for this very interesting video.

[@evesan7]

Tsundere flat waifu ship is pretty gud

[@jvtagle]

Huuuhhh!!!

[@viktorjoachimmoscoso6327]

baka

[@nikitakhrushchev8316]

Get a life

[@hiddenfog180]

I came here just to see how they'd narrate loli Glowworm ram flat Hipper-chan UwU

[@madhie-kun8614]

Azur Lane reference... *BUT I SIMP TO PRINZ EUGENE!*

[@willrogers3793]

I’d never actually had confirmation of the 12-gun, 5.9”-armed version of the Hipper as an actual design, just a rumor floating around various places on the internet. That being said, I have to say I’m fairly intrigued by the design. And although it might be a bit crude to say this here, I’d rather like to see it in World of Warships. The German 15cm guns are some of the most versatile guns of their type in the game (and absolutely murderous against broadside targets when using AP). With 12 of those guns on the hull of a Hipper-class heavy cruiser, I think it’d probably be a strong enough ship to not even need a weird gimmick. I’m fairly sure it’d do well as a tier 7 premium; I’m picturing it as being something like the Russian Shchors, but with the better German AP, weaker German HE, and 3 knots slower in exchange for better protection from close-range cruiser guns. With the added bonuses of German hydro and more useful torpedoes, of course. EDIT: So apparently I’ve been living under a rock. They’re testing this version of the Hipper as an upcoming tier 8 premium, and have been for a while, under the working title “Mainz” (like the city in Germany). Apparently it’s almost exactly like I pictured it being, just at tier 8 instead of 7...which, considering the state of tier 8 matchmaking at the moment, I have mixed feelings about. But at least the ship itself sounds pretty decent.

[@shanemize3775]

Outstanding video. My favorite one thus far. Well done and please keep them coming!

[@michealcormier2555]

"Vampiracly absorbed all the good fortune from the rest of the class." Lol

[@iamscoutstfu]

Best t8 for learning to gitgud. Punishes mistakes, rewards skill. Perfectly balanced.

[@mastermariner7813]

Hah, ignore that 11" gun manned by a pensioner and cadets....3 days. Your ship was sunk after three days service because they ignored an old man and kids.

[@KatyushaLauncher]

The Germans really underestimated the Fortress and it's weapons

[@ackbargaming992]

Blücher is a name of a Prussian Field Marshall during the Napoleonic Wars

[@jimtaylor294]

Blucher sealed Old Boney's final crushing defeat at Waterloo, after Wellington's Thin Red Line had broken the corsican emperor's best troops. #EnoughSaid

[@bigblue6917]

Never upset a pensioner. They are feisty, probably know more then you and have nothing to lose. Oh, and they enjoy teaching you whippersnappers a lesson.

[@RemoteViewr1]

Wonderfully wry parting shot at the class pointed at the Eugen. Grinning.

[@jeffreyplum5259]

The old torpedoes has a great advantage over more modern designs. They hit their targets and even exploded. The confined waters also added a bit of " Shooting fish in a Barrel " to the mix. Year of training meant the guns were about as dialed in as possible. One really should avoid making oneself a live firing drill for a thoroughly trained enemy force. Things like this give " Military Intelligence" such a bad name. Pride Goeth before a Fall. It also may go before a sinking.. I can see a new series Historic Maritime Tactical Blunders. Honorable mention could go to the US carrier which ordered a Spanish lighthouse to get out of the way.. Thanks for a another serving of history, well spiced.

[@toddwebb7521]

So knowing that the German 8" Shells had comically light bursting charges for 8" guns, wonder if the 12 6" light cruiser Seydlitz type would have been more useful if actually made. Certainly they would have been more useful than a light carrier for planes never built or sold to an enemy you plan on fighting in a year.

[@merafirewing6591]

Ah...the Tsundere Heavy Cruiser.

[@matthewm1409]

Drydock Q&A If the High Seas Fleet was allowed to remain in German hands after World War One, how would it have changed German naval strategy and naval construction during the interwar years and World War Two? How would it be affected by the Washington and London naval treaties?

[@christiangudiel26]

If that happen there is no such thing as a european theater ww2.

[@phbrinsden]

I would never have happened.

[@shellshockedgerman3947]

Large parts of the fleet would be scrapped for cash. Will probably have the most modern ships be in mothball. Germany might actually be able to field a more effective Scharnhorst-class and Bismarck-class ships. Same thing with the heavy and light cruisers.

[@ringowunderlich2241]

Would like to have a video about the Tashkent destroyer leader to have her story brought to a wider audience.

[@niclasjohansson4333]

The Hipper class had the best optical range finder of any ww2 cruisers (on par with Battleships), and could actually hit what they were shooting at, unlike most CAs of other navys.

[@ScienceChap]

Try telling Capt Hans Langsdorrf that...

[@fyorbane]

The Germans had very good optics in general but lagged behind in radar and radar controlled gunnery.

[@Winthropede]

Science Chap the captain of Graf spee? One of the most successful yet short lived surface raiders of the war?

[@michaelkovacic2608]

@@fyorbane Tell that to the crew of HMS Glorious, which got hit by 11inch gunfire despite being covered with smokescreens. Drach himself said that while German radar gunnery lagged a bit behind the Allies, it wasn't all that much, and early in WW2, was certainly among the best available.

[@emphopho]

In the exchange between Berwick and Hipper, the Berwick got the worst of it, with quite afew hits, due to superior german optics. Just as an "ad notam".

[@jimtaylor294]

Berwick did drive her opponent from the "field" though, thus still can be ascribed the victor. (a blooded boxer is no less a victor)

[@themythicalfire809]

will you ever finish your list since its like a hydra one down two comes

[@Drachinifel]

In theory there is a finite number of warships built... :p

[@themythicalfire809]

when you ar at the age of 80 years old you will reach the nuclear carriers

[@AdamMGTF]

@@Drachinifel you'll cover them all. And on that day we'll be contacted by alien life. They have one purpose to their contact: to share the naval history of their homeworld with the one humans call "Drachinifel". Primary sources will be provided. As will a replacement android body* should yours not last long enough. *Or glass jar for your head to float in... Whichever you prefer.

[@tomhsia4354]

@@AdamMGTF Next thing we know, the sheer number of upload CyberDrach put out knocks KZbin Offline... So CyberDrach builds his own video platform just for warships. Oh, and never challenge CyberDrach in a World of Warships duel.

[@charlesrichardson4032]

Great love your uploads

[@robinblankenship9234]

The armament was capable of 32 knots? Wow, I hope the ship was able to keep up with the guns.

[@USS_ESSEX_CV-9]

But that's boring when the ship stays together in one piece. it's more exciting when the guns decide that they're going on their own adventure

[@alanbatty3825]

Fantastic series, have subscribed, thank you.

[@michaelsnyder3871]

When comparing the German heavy cruisers, they should be compared not to the Treaty restricted designs of the other navies, other than the Japanese, who deliberately built over the limits. The best comparison among the Allies are the USN's Baltimore class heavy cruisers. Still by 1943, the improvements in fire control systems and radar would have allowed US and British cruisers the ability to engage these ships at more efficient ranges.

[@mattbowden4996]

Comparing the Baltimores to the Hippers is a mistake. they were a complete generation more modern, having been designed with war experience and being launched some eight years later. Chronologically, USS Wichita is the closest US heavy cruiser to the Hippers. The British weren't building anything comparable by he mid 30's, but the Towns were chronologically comparable.

[@Meatwad440]

Germans come up with ship names like Hipper, Tirpitz and Scharnhorst. The Brits go for Glowworm.

[@wickhogendoorn9292]

you can also once the Japanese I400

[@ke7eha]

I can't help but feel that there should be a horse whinny after mention of Blucher

[@johncook3125]

Good video. I enjoyed the show thanks.

[@PaulfromChicago]

The Merrimack and Mersey class of frigates? Perhaps a discussion of American and British construction schedules and designs prior to the US Civil War?

[@lorddashdonalddappington2653]

I don't think Prinz Eugen was lucky so much as she got a big karma bonus for what was going to happen at the end of her life.

[@smokejaguarsix7757]

You say they were inefficient but as I recall they did quite well at handling and maintaining speed in rough seas, something the Allied ships of similar class did not. The longer bow likely had something to do with that.

[@KatyushaLauncher]

Have you seen their displacement compared to their statistics? In terms of fighting potential, Allied Heavy Cruisers were on par or even better armed and protected than the Hipper-class with LESS displacement overall

[@lancenorton1117]

The Hipper Class Heavy Cruisers had a very short range compared to other ships of their size and their engines were not particularly reliable.

[@Popsaircraftdetail]

I love my hipper

[@Napalmratte]

Hello there, your videos are simple, yet amazing and they contain info that I doubt I´d find somewhere else on the internet in such a easy access formate :) I play a game called War Thunder and they bring in the navy section now. They concentrate on rather small vessels (PT boats etc) up to light cruisers with the biggest currently being the Krasny Kavkas. I never heard about this ship before but it looks impressive for a light cruiser - any interesting facts about it? Keep ya wörk coming, I watched them all so far :)

[@cromagnonac]

why hello there Napalm o7

[@Drachinifel]

I'll give it a go :)

[@josynaemikohler6572]

I do still not understand, why Seydlitz was to be converted into a CV. She was essentially completed. And Germany lost the Blücher early in the war. Why not having another operational heavy cruiser, instead of converting it, costing tons of ressources, and having no ship for a couple of years.... and ending up not even finishing removing the superstructure...

[@jamesricker3997]

Germany was desperate for an aircraft carrier and that was a quickest way to get one.

[@stephenbond1990]

Any chance for episodes on the royal navies armoured cruisers prior to the first world war or the Austro-Hungarian/French battlecruiser proposals or the Italian Francesco caracciolo class?

[@Drachinifel]

Stephen Bond sure

[@GreyWolfLeaderTW]

"I think the name Blucher for German Ships is probably cursed." Tell me about it. In Atlantic Fleet, I sent Blucher, Lutzow (Deutchland-Class), and a couple destroyers out to do convoy raiding. They ran into HMS Nelson escorting a convoy, and the encounter took place at night. I thought "I have a good chance at taking out Nelson because I can get my destroyers in range for torpedo attacks." So I attacked. Wouldn't you know it, Blucher was the German ship that started off the closest to the Nelson. Lutzow was my main hitter for most of the battle, disabling Nelson's Main Spot and Radar and temporarily knocking her main guns out of action. But eventually, Nelson managed to get a star shell over Blucher and promptly started firing 16 inch shells into her, in spite of it being night and having lost her main spots. My destroyers were able to get close-enough to launch torpedoes and sink Nelson, but not before she badly mauled Blucher. Blucher was actually able to limp around at about 7 knots, aiding my other ships in mopping up the convoy Nelson was escorting, but when the battle ended, Blucher's crew had to auto-scuttle her. Needless to say, I was exasperated at that loss.

[@lmyrski8385]

Did you ever consider to look at the vessel's cruising ranges? The Germans knew the odds were they would need to go longer distances in enemy controlled waters where refueling options are limited if not impossible. I know Prinz Eugen had significantly longer range than USS New Orleans at 20 knots (5,280 versus 6,800 nautical miles), and I'm pretty sure the same could be said for the County Class at that speed just based on the 10 knot figures that are published. Range means bunkers, bunkers = displacement. Sorry, I'm thinking you missed the mark on the efficiency criticism.

[@dovetonsturdee7033]

Not a fair comparison. New Orleans & the Counties were Washington cruisers, built to adhere to the terms of the Treaty. Both were 100 feet shorter than the 697 feet of the Hippers, which displaced around half as much again as the other two. The Counties and the New Orleans were also around eight years older.

[@lmyrski8385]

@@dovetonsturdee7033 Watch the video. He made the comparisons to those vessels, not me. I simply pointed out that the extra size was certainly why the Hippers had greater range, while he ignored range and criticized the Hippers simply for being bigger without being significanty stronger.

[@dovetonsturdee7033]

@@lmyrski8385 Well, whoever made the comparison, it is not a valid one.

[@BenState]

The engine oil caught fire! Holy shit, thats a hot engine.

[@bryancloutier5665]

love to binge this channel

[@Greystar2426]

That’s what hipper gets for being a tsundere

[@simonbengtsson9241]

Admiral Hipper: Huh!?

[@dungeonrat]

I love your humor!

[@mikesummers-smith4091]

Oberst Birger Eriksen, just about retired, commanding a bunch of squaddies at Oscarsborg Fortress, after taking a couple of paces up&down to reach a decision - "Well, I suppose I'm either going to be a hero or court-martialled. Open fire!"

[@dougjb7848]

Can you please produce an episode focused on Barents Sea (Regenbogen)? It was a classic example of how to do everything wrong.

[@oleriis-vestergaard6844]

And one of the seeman on Prinz Eugen - his name was yes Eugen - meet a danish girl during the prolonged stay of the ship and yes it was true love so Eugen did not leave his girl and Denmark just becauce the war ended and also had his Mother transfered from Koenigberg before the russ closed the door , came to know them in the 1960 years.

[@greenseaships]

6:35- She also absorbed a significant amount of nuclear radiation LOL

[@sergarlantyrell7847]

1942 (planned) Neptune class please!

[@julieclark1765]

Sometimes a warship is remembered in history or forgotten by tomorrow

[@Robotechsdfone6969]

Someone posted a picture of a barrel that was from Prince Eugen in the desert. They took a camera, put it in side to pretect it from the atomic tests. I cant find this picture or any info on this and it was a reddit post to.

[@otakurt1149]

Drydock Q&A Why was the Battle Of The Atlantic Mostly American and British Versus the Germans Only? Why didn't the French Nor Italians get involved in the Battle of the Atlantic Significantly? Maybe i have a suggested for another type of series "Fleet Review" a video reviewing a specific Navy in which was a combatant both WW1 and WW2 It might be a good suggestion since you cover mostly only ships why not cover the entire navies in which those ships served

[@Deevo037]

I would imagine the Italian capital ships lacked the range as they were mainly designed for Mediterranean operations. There was also Gibraltar to consider which would have been difficult to get past..

[@novatopaz9880]

Karl Dubhe America, Britain, and the assorted commonwealths ‘under’ Britain. For the purpose of the Battle for the Atlantic, anything commonwealth based is labeled under the British flag for simplicities sake. And can you blame them? They make British warships, use British tactics, and in general operate as an extension of (and in many cases as part of) the British fleet for much of the war and especially when it comes to the submarine war and convoy escort in the Atlantic. IIRC multiple commonwealth ships were used in defense of the arctic convoys, which is almost halfway across the world from the respective flags the ships are under. The commonwealth nations have very close ties with Britain, so much so that they are indistinguishable from Britain when your talking major naval battles, and to a lesser degree land and air battles(as you usually don’t fly your flag, obviously.).

[@novatopaz9880]

Karl Dubhe *I am very well aware of this* . But that is what any historian sees when they make the swathing overviews of History in general. Only the ones which go out of their way to mention those small and frankly crucial details are the ones where you’ll Canada mentioned in the battle of the Atlantic as a separate entity. In anything else history related, it is always labeled as the British and Americans, nothing more... You only see Canada mentioned off-hand when there is the inevitable question of who participated. If you’d read the message even a little bit, you would of realized I was talking in the grand scheme of things... Because it is not only the Canadians which are subjugated to this. The Australians and New Zealanders are also left out. I was explaining why the poster didn’t include them, and goes back to information simplification from the general history books down, in terms of public knowledge. Obviously, commonwealth ships are independently manned, made(at least in the case of Canada, and maybe Australia), and organized. But because the Commonwealth nations assets are still effectively under British command structure(or at least follow British tactics, doctrine, and strategy), they are seldom mentioned anywhere except in more detailed stuff(such as specific battles), because for something as broad as the Battle of the Atlantic, information is simplified more than it should be, and ends up with the commonwealth nations being precluded under the British title, if they are ever mentioned at all. Sorry if I didn’t convey that with the previous message.

[@johndunkelburg5143]

The Italian Navy had issues trying to break out of the Mediterranean Sea as well as the whole issue of having no aircraft carriers of their own to provide integral air support. Plus, the Italian Navy surface fleet had commanders who were nowhere near as daring and skilled as their frogmen and special services. The French Navy all but practically ceased to exist as a separate military force after the fall of France thanks to the British raid on Mers El Kebir in 1940 that prevented the Germans from getting their hands on the French ships. Only a small handful of French naval forces responded to Charles de Gaulle's call for Free French forces and while present they lacked any kind of numbers to have a visible impact in the Battle of the Atlantic.

[@sarjim4381]

The Italian Navy had quite a large submarine fleet at the beginning of the war, variously estimated at 105-112 subs of all types. If those, 32 were based in France after 1940 as the passage through the the Strait of Gibraltar were too dangerous for the large and slow to dive submarines. They contributed quite a bit to the sinking of allied ships, with 665,000 tons sunk. They also sank 18 convoy escorts so the numbers weren't bad for a fleet that never had more than about 23 subs active at any one time. SEveral of the large long range submarines made successful voyages to and back from the East Indies carrying vital wartime cargoes like rubber and quinine. The Italian submarines were much less successful in the Med as the relatively large and noisy submarines were either caught on the surface or sunk by British destroyers and sloops.

[@Thecoolman1]

They should have used a twin turret version of 11 inch turrets from the Deutschlands, because the hull (with some modifications) would be the right size for it.

[@nerd1000ify]

There was no way for them to pretend that they were complying with the Washington Naval treaty if they did that. The Hippers were presented to the world as "10,000 ton 8-inch Cruisers." In reality shipbuilding professionals in the other treaty nations knew they probably displaced far more than 10,000 tons based on their sheer size, but their governments couldn't just throw such accusations around willy-nilly so Germany got away with it. Using 11" guns would have eliminated all pretense, and possibly prompted other nations to drop the treaty as well.

[@lancenorton1117]

@@nerd1000ify Yep, which is why the Scharnhorst class was launched with three 11 inch turrets. The plan was to switch to triple 15 inch twin turrets later. But then the war started early.

[@nerd1000ify]

@@lancenorton1117 I think this also allowed them to complete sooner, as the 11" gun was a mature design that could be deployed a lot faster than developing a new 15" weapon. The 15" was of course planned for the following Bismarcks, so a retrofit was feasible once development completed.

[@MrNealSalo]

Have to agree with you about the name “Blücher” as not, perhaps, being propitious. Kind of reminds me of an old Far Side cartoon in which a deer has a red bullseye target shape on his chest; says the other deer, “Bummer of a birthmark, Hal.”

[@lukashei1870]

Apparently, Generals don't swimm so well.

[@horselips]

Thanks for this video. Idea: Cover the "Original 6 Frigates" of the US Navy - USS Constitution, President, United States, Constellation, etc.

[@michaelcoulter1114]

horselips THIS!!!

[@mikehoshall6150]

If memory serves me here it seems to me the class also had a problem when trying to serve in warmer waters as the main condensers were too small and they had to keep the speed down as the condensers couldn’t handle the steam needed for high speeds. Am I mixed up here? Your schedule is fine by me. I appreciate your hard work and always enjoy your videos.

[@nickybps5857]

The Royal thai navy’s thonburi class coastal defense ships could be a good ship class to review

[@redbank493]

Good looking ship

[@Dilley_G45]

It's not "ow" as in "town". In those German names the "w" after the "o" is always silent (e.g. Pankow, Lützow, etc.). And the "long" or soft o in German as in "Boot" or "Tod" or "Brot" is pronounced like the "...eau" in French names like "Mirabeau". Hope that helps. The "ü" you got alright. Just trying to help....I like your videos a lot

[@smokejaguarsix7757]

I really dont think he reads these comments. Also, he's British and will of course refuse to make any attempt whatsoever to correctly pronounce words of another language.

[@vasilileung2204]

To the British ear, they all sound blurp blurp blurp when they go under

[@Dilley_G45]

@@vasilileung2204 to us Germans they all sound bumm bumm bumm when they blow up. When they get Hooded. Hood....Invincible....Queen Mary...

[@koltp1909]

Ah yes, the Huh cruiser

[@tomhorn6679]

admiral hipper sent her crew into battle. had potsdam south not had surrendered when they did, the breakout of the germans from the teirgarden on may 2 and that and the evacuation of potsdam north and south wouldve put severe pressure on the russians to halt their drive to cut off the remnants of ninth army headed towards the river.

[@shsjsjjdjdfyywuu5121]

Please make video about revenge class bb or some japanese destroyer class

[@okanolin70]

the admiral hipper had a special name from british navy, pity you did not list him It would also have been worth mentioning that the first victoria cross was awarded, based on a report that Kapitän zur See Hellmuth Heye, the commander of Admiral Hipper, sent to the British Admiralty via the Red Cross.

[@Drachinifel]

That's mentioned in the video on HMS Glowworm

[@ajvanmarle]

It's a pity a County and a Hipper never faced off. Would have been interesting.

[@zogzog1063]

Would you please do a review of HMS Colander. TIA.

[@anamariadeb.8552]

Thank you for another well done and accurate video.

[@ferrofilos]

I'm sure that napalmratte will make a review of the hipper for war thunder

[@themythicalfire809]

also one question would the ijn win the battle of midway if they send every carrier including light cv's to the battle

[@alan6832]

Why is it armored end to end? Wasn't the all or nothing armor and the citadel concepts well established by then? Also, wasn't it possible in many cases to shorten the superstructure and engines in order to move front and rear turrets closer together and shorten the armored belts? and couldn't some of the boilers be left in the unarmored ends? leaving the ship only at risk of being slowed if hit? Though the Bismark did show a need for armored steering gear.

[@nerd1000ify]

Germany didn't subscribe to the all-or-nothing paradigm because they'd fallen behind on shipbuilding concepts during the interbellum period where they weren't allowed much of a navy. The Bismarks and Hippers were in many ways WW1 design concepts scaled up for WW2 engine and weapon technology.

[@sskuk1095]

Hey, I wanted to ask, what was the performance of the ship's main armament? Where the 20,3cm guns good?

[@TTTT-oc4eb]

They were powerful and very accurate and had better range than any other 8-inch gun in WW2.

[@mariebcfhs9491]

Did Tallinn got her tripple 180mm turrets or was it a wargaming thing

[@quocvinhnguyen2063]

wargaming thing

[@julieclark1765]

Best waifu

[@leftcoaster67]

Better ship? Graf Spee or Prinz Eugen? And.....fight!

[@uteriel282]

graf spee has bigger guns but eugen got more guns and better overall armor. also eugen was fitted with more modern machines/electronics making her more versatile.

[@shellshockedgerman3947]

Depends on who fires first and who gets the first hit.

[@pastorjerrykliner3162]

Did anyone else hear a horse whinnying whenever he said "Blucher"?

[@nicoderfeuerloscher1684]

The hipper looks way more modern than barack and new orleans