Knife Sharpening - Norton Crystolon Double Sided Oilstone

[@NORTHWESTKNIFEGUY]

As always enjoyed the video man, hope you're doing well!

[@Jef]

@@NORTHWESTKNIFEGUY thanks bro! Hope your doing good as well.

[@lars43771]

Love me some old school Crystolon and India’s as well. That was all most of us had 20 years ago. Nice little trick with the stropping!

[@Jef]

@@lars43771 crys, india, and arkansas stones. What i started on basically 😁

[@norwegiantinkerer]

Nice video! You can indeed get a knife sharp using a relatively coarse stone. Doesn't need to take it to 12k stone every time. And that super refined 12k edge is often lost in the first few seconds of use anyway. In practical use a sharp edge with a bit of bite is preferable to a razors edge in most cases. Than you for sharing!

[@Jef]

@@norwegiantinkerer thanks for checking it out 👍

[@powerai]

Cool video, i enjoy my crystolon stone so much i ordered a jumbo version aswell

[@Jef]

@@powerai they rock 🤘

[@Naddan49]

Nice job reminds me of the guy who used to strop on newspaper

[@Jef]

@@Naddan49 yea i recall a few folks who preferred that

[@JohnDoe-zb7dz]

Why couldn't a fellow soak up the leftover residue from lapping these Crystolons on SIC and plate glass? I sure wash a lot of it down the driveway. Maybe a slat of basswood? You definitely have me brainstorming Jeff. I love experimenting things like this. Thanks for sharing!

[@rockets4kids]

Back in the day it was common for people to save their slurry and put it onto a strop. No reason you can't do that today if you want!

[@JohnDoe-zb7dz]

​@@rockets4kidsCheaper than a lot of these boutique diamond emulsions and compounds on the market. May not be as fast but looks like it gets the job done.

[@rockets4kids]

@@JohnDoe-zb7dz On the contrary, this stone is *much* faster than diamonds when used correctly.

[@JohnDoe-zb7dz]

@@rockets4kids Yes, at steep angles. The Norton's to me require more pressure, especially the India's. When it comes to sharpening my Rex 76 and Rex 121 I definitely use the plates. But I agree, those Crystolons are hard to beat. Next to those are my Gritomatic SICS that Jeff turned me onto. My only mistake was not ordering two sets of them because they are near impossible to get right now.

[@knifesharpeningnorway]

Thank you for the vid. I absolutely know they work im just very particular on how a stone should feel.

[@Jef]

@@knifesharpeningnorway as i said, not for everyone. It just made me wanna show it off

[@knifesharpeningnorway]

@Jef yes sir i know. Im just a very picky guy

[@TillRe]

Hey Jeff, what are your current years favorite stones for a tree piece set (coarse/medium/finisher) for kitchen knives? Thanks in advance.

[@Jef]

@@TillRe they haven’t changed. Shapton pro 320, 1k, 5k. For kitchen knives. Wear resistant steel, although not in stock since they come from Russia, gritomatic sic 220, 1k and 2.5k Sharpening stones I recommend kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJTTo4h-hJmNndU

[@CraigLuna]

I've been using my many decades old Nortons (Crystolon and Indias) more recently rather than my expensive ones lately. It works and with diamond stropping you wont notice the difference.

[@Jef]

@@CraigLuna indias are another gem. With the right pressure, can be shockingly fast

[@CraigLuna]

@@Jef this reminds me of how I recall my grandpa had a fairly sharp edge years ago and I rejected it since they `obviously didn't know how to sharpen like we do now`. Yet I always remembered this old timer of his had a nice bite. Fortunately I had his old stone hidden in a pile somewhere and learned a valuable lesson...his stone was a Franz-Swaty formally of Marsburg. If you know you know and then realize the old guys knew something.

[@Jef]

@@CraigLuna i got one of those franz swaty barber hones. Its basically like a spyderco medium. Maybe a tad finer, but you can condition it. Ive done a few videos over the years, and had that one in them. I’ve removed so many over the years, i can’t recall.

[@CraigLuna]

@ it seems to somehow do better than my spyderco meds (bench and sharpermaker). For years I always assume it was similar but I don’t seem to get that same thumb bite on the meds. I just got it out and tried it on my edc SAK. It definitely works differently. Even better than the ultra fine 3x8 but better feedback and all recently cleaned with barkeeps. I seem to recall different grades over time per the straight razor guys but I’m no expert there. I don’t use it much and I’ve had it now for probly 25yrs.

[@CraigLuna]

@@Jef kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6XUqoeBbr6mkMk

[@rockets4kids]

These are over $35 now. They are no longer the cheap gem they once were.

[@JohnDoe-zb7dz]

@@rockets4kids Nothing is immune from inflation. It eventually effects everything. And if you want or need Norton products, better stock up now before the 25% proposed tariff on Mexico is implemented.

[@Jef]

@@rockets4kids $35 isn’t expensive for a doible sided stone. Still a good value

[@rockets4kids]

@@JohnDoe-zb7dz These stones were under $20 for the longest time and then nearly doubled in price overnight. That's not inflation.

[@JohnDoe-zb7dz]

@@rockets4kids some sectors affected more than others

[@rockets4kids]

@@JohnDoe-zb7dz More like prices went up as a result of supply chain issues during Covid, the company realized the increased prices didn't hurt sales, and then never bothered to bring the price back down when the supply chain normalized.

[@rockets4kids]

Unless that knife you were sharpening was extremely damaged you did way more grinding than was necessary. The 320 side of that stone is *fast.* Just a couple off strokes on each side of the blade is likely all that was necessary. Not criticizing your technique, just letting people know you are underselling the capabilities of this stone.

[@Jef]

@@rockets4kids yea it was freshly lapped too. I over sharpened for sure but it is what it is 🤷‍♂️

[@rockets4kids]

@@Jef If you really want to show off the capabilities of this stone, lightly drag the edge a single time over the bottom rim of a coffee mug. This is sufficient to completely kill the edge. Then see how little grinding is required to restore it.

[@glytch5]

Only negative I can say is it looks like you have garbage disposal? Apparently ur not supposed to get stone lapping slurry in there at all, kills the bearings certainly killed mine. Just something to think about.

[@Jef]

@@glytch5 i live in an apartment. Let maintenance and the owners deal with the consequences 😁