Helmets: The Armet

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Knyght Errant

Knyght Errant

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@masonrudesheim9098
@masonrudesheim9098 8 жыл бұрын
"Caving in his buddy's face with a pole axe," I'm pretty sure that buddies don't do that to each other.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
+Mason Rudesheim Maybe they weren't very close. :)
@masonrudesheim9098
@masonrudesheim9098 8 жыл бұрын
True, very true.
@TheCompleteMental
@TheCompleteMental 7 жыл бұрын
tis just a prank, brethren
@HandleMyBallsYouTube
@HandleMyBallsYouTube 5 жыл бұрын
You sure about that buddy?
@BlaBla-pf8mf
@BlaBla-pf8mf 4 жыл бұрын
"I can't believe you've done this!"
@corto4027
@corto4027 8 жыл бұрын
I think people often forget, or just don't think about, when bringing up scenarios on how armor can be defeated, is the fact that although your armor has weaknesses, so does your opponent's armor. And being competent knights or men-at-arms, you both know your armor's weaknesses, and defend against them being exploited, while trying to exploit the other's weaknesses. Just like any other fight.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
+The Devil Precisely.
@Prometheus720
@Prometheus720 8 жыл бұрын
+Knyght Errant Somehow I doubt that in most cases you'd spend too much time focusing on the other bloke's armor and its (particular) weaknesses. You don't have time for that in a big brawl. If you were GoT-style dueling and you had time to break apart and circle, then yeah. But really you'd rely on techniques which would work against any armor configuration or at least the majority of them. Also, tehre probably weren't as many varieties of helmet at that time. We can look in history books and see thousands of different helmet designs, but only a few were probably in fashion in one area of the world, at one time, in one certain conflict. So when armets were popular, you might be taught by your instructor what the weaknesses of armets are and that would be it. You wouldn't be looking at it and saying "Hmmm, that's an armet, isn't it? What was I told about armets?" You're probably more interested in the state of his visor and his weapon. These are logical guesses supported by zero real-world experience, near-zero theoretical experience, and zero historical sources other than KZbin videos. Please correct me if (when) I'm wrong.
@cheesychipmunk8382
@cheesychipmunk8382 5 жыл бұрын
That's part of the whole "armor isn't amazing" debunk. People often forget anyone with the money to afford one of these suits is going to be trained and prepared for a fight
@isaccarce6548
@isaccarce6548 6 жыл бұрын
I like what you said, that armor isn't invulnerable, but most people don't realize that armor would greatly reduce a person's chances of dying.
@realdragon
@realdragon 2 жыл бұрын
Look at modern helmets, they don't prevent you from being shot straight in the face but greatly reduce chances from being shot in the head
@Trikipum
@Trikipum 8 ай бұрын
@@realdragon just that modern helmets dont "greatly reduce" chances from being shot in the head.. what are you talking about.. When a modern helmet stops a bullet, it is considered a "freak happening", what usually happens is that you get your head blown off anyway..
@realdragon
@realdragon 8 ай бұрын
@@Trikipum What I mean is helmets save lives and they always did
@cwxdaf152
@cwxdaf152 8 жыл бұрын
The picket fence is pretty useful. You could impale a small piece of fruit on it for a handy snack.
@rchave
@rchave 7 жыл бұрын
Nothing beats a bevor full of jelly babies. (actually, hot weather and/or forgetting them does)
@zizkazenit7885
@zizkazenit7885 6 жыл бұрын
I came here after watching Lindybeige’s video about his sallet/armet frankenarmor. I like this video better, it has sources.
@MEUAR
@MEUAR 6 жыл бұрын
Exhaustive, crystal clear explanations, no sparing on the details, it's perfect! Everything any curious soul could ask for, ty buddy \o
@erloriel
@erloriel 3 жыл бұрын
I always love those little details that tell a story, like the extra plate at 13:50 It shows that getting your forehead caved in was at least a reasonable enough danger to warrant the expense and weight of adding another plate. What people often seem to forget is that every bit of these design evolutions is a response to some problem that the wearer would face. It is not a haphazard process, but somebody paying a lot of money for a vital piece of protective equipement.
@melchaios
@melchaios 8 жыл бұрын
beautiful helmets, proably my favourite design with the sallet + visor as a close second place
@LuvBorderCollies
@LuvBorderCollies 8 жыл бұрын
The thorough discussion of armor designs overall and specific components, really gives me a great appreciation of the maker's skills. Really amazing. Keep up the excellent work!
@davidlowe1256
@davidlowe1256 6 жыл бұрын
6:11 I believe the technical term for this faceplate design is called the _toilet bowl_ design. The one you own is known as a _picket fence toilet bowl_ armet.
@Tatti12321
@Tatti12321 8 жыл бұрын
Best quality armour videos on the net, hands down. Production and information quality is perfectly delivered. Its really a shame, you should have as many views as Matt at least. I guess armour isn't as sexy a topic as swords.
@JustGrowingUp84
@JustGrowingUp84 8 жыл бұрын
+Battam Dude, he's not that well known yet, give it some time. When I subscribed to him, he only had 5k subscribers, now he has double that. Heck, when I subscribed to Matt, he had 30k subscribers, now he has triple! Also, Ian tends to make relatively long and scholarly videos, which tends to put off some people.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
+Battam Spread the word, the more this stuff gets shared around, the more it helps! :) I certainly appreciate it! Yeah, I have kind of chosen a very niche area to drone on about, so I never expected the wide appeal of say a Lindybeige or Skallagrim, but maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised one day. I'll keep making videos as long as people keep finding them useful! I find it hard to make short videos on these topics because there's so much information and I don't want people to draw bizarre conclusions or misunderstand what I say so I try to get as much detail out as I can. Unfortunately, a lot of people see a 25 or 30 min video and go somewhere else, but I feel like I would be doing a disservice to some of these topics by cutting them too short. Thank you for your support!
@jaysbob
@jaysbob 8 жыл бұрын
I get excited everytime I see you've made a video and I've been looking forward to an armet video in particular. Thanks for all your hard work. Your armor videos are the best on youtube.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
+jaysbob Thank you!
@tapioperala3010
@tapioperala3010 8 жыл бұрын
That helmet looks friggin' awesome.
@orionmelton3226
@orionmelton3226 6 жыл бұрын
My favorite helmets! I literally did not even know that these existed until I watched this a while back.
@VoltzNSmith
@VoltzNSmith 8 жыл бұрын
Great video. Seconding an episode on the sallet.
@Grimdog102
@Grimdog102 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for going to so much effort dude. The amount of detail in your videos is amazing!
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you, and you're very welcome!
@bruce11lee
@bruce11lee 8 жыл бұрын
I love this style of helmet. Great video!
@Xbuschwacker
@Xbuschwacker 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this incredible series.
@AlexanderWernerJr
@AlexanderWernerJr 8 жыл бұрын
I like the way you present the evolution of the armour and I simply can't help marvelling at the beautiful design of the helmets. Great work!
@gcknives139
@gcknives139 7 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a video on the close helm.
@thatchannel195
@thatchannel195 6 жыл бұрын
GC Knives ikr
@KorKhan89
@KorKhan89 8 жыл бұрын
Great video, as always. Lots of stuff I didn't know about. I'd love to see you compare the armet with the later similar-looking but distinct close helm.
@xplatoon
@xplatoon 7 жыл бұрын
Highest quality of research and presentation about medieval equipment on KZbin. Amazing!
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@petrapetrakoliou8979
@petrapetrakoliou8979 Ай бұрын
A Venitian bassinet like the one you show there is visible in the Chronicon pictum representing the battle of Rozgony.
@jean-lucfagnan7798
@jean-lucfagnan7798 3 жыл бұрын
This is a really great and informative video. Love the design of this helmet, both aesthetically and practically.
@jacobcolle3746
@jacobcolle3746 Жыл бұрын
This was an insanely good video. Answered all of my questions. Thank you!
@malnutritionboy
@malnutritionboy 8 жыл бұрын
You know what i like more than helmets? Knowledge. I mean like seriously look at those books
@Rasgonras
@Rasgonras 8 жыл бұрын
Just a thought: maybe poleaxes and warhammers were designed to damage components like the hinges in order to expose it's wearer.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
+Rasgonras A poleaxe doesn't even necessarily need to expose the wearer to hurt them :)
@Rasgonras
@Rasgonras 8 жыл бұрын
Knyght Errant That's true, maybe it would be a nice, unintended side effect? (for the attacker, that is ...)
@Squirrel4361
@Squirrel4361 8 жыл бұрын
The funniest description of fate aligning for an armor failure. . . LOL!!! "The Moon is in the Seventh House, and Jupiter is aligned with Mars" Priceless. . .
@EliotChildress
@EliotChildress 8 жыл бұрын
What is the story behind the background image at 5:10? It looks like one of the fighters is wearing a crown.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
+Eliot Childress So what you're seeing there is bleed through of ink from the opposite side of the folio. The images are from MS Ludwig XV 13, or Fiore dei Liberi's "Fior di Battaglia," an early 15th century fighting treatise now housed at the JP Getty Museum. Here's the plate where the bleed-through image actually is (wiktenauer.com/wiki/Page:MS_Ludwig_XV_13_33r.jpg), but the rest of Fior di Battaglia includes lots of images of the fencers wearing gilt crowns ( wiktenauer.com/wiki/Fior_di_Battaglia_(MS_Ludwig_XV_13) ). They represent the 'masters' of the art, teaching the techniques to the students.
@iviecarp
@iviecarp 7 жыл бұрын
24:45 pretty good is an understatement. That degree of peripheral vision is almost the complete 170 degrees expected without a helmet at all isn't it? Considering it's still a helmet, it's practically ideal.
@billhsu6349
@billhsu6349 9 ай бұрын
The most beautiful and practical helmet ever.
@SusFerrum
@SusFerrum 5 жыл бұрын
I find the sound quality through your bucket remarkable.
@imlaughing2death
@imlaughing2death 8 жыл бұрын
Not gonna, lie, those teeth make that Armet look badass.
@platypus1060
@platypus1060 6 жыл бұрын
Hi guys I'm ian laspina thanks for tunning in to another video on forgottenweapons.com and today let's look at this armet
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 6 жыл бұрын
Armor Jesus approves.
@CarnelianUK
@CarnelianUK 8 жыл бұрын
Armets are nice, I still prefer sallets or burgonets though. Any chance we'll see a video on either of those?
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
+Ben Kirkby Buy me a sallet and I'll do a video on it! :) I'm just kidding of course. I intend to make videos on anything I can get my hands on in the future. I find the show-and-tell portion of my videos is one of the strengths of my presentation so I'm trying to only cover pieces of armor I can show you firsthand right now. Sallets are on the list as soon as I can find a high-quality example to demo.
@breaden4381
@breaden4381 8 жыл бұрын
+Knyght Errant Worst case scenario, make one out of duct tape.
@masonrudesheim9098
@masonrudesheim9098 8 жыл бұрын
+Knyght Errant Sallet! Sallet! Sallet!
@pmurphy5948
@pmurphy5948 8 жыл бұрын
+Ben Kirkby I vote for sallet next. It was so common
@CarnelianUK
@CarnelianUK 8 жыл бұрын
Knyght Errant if I could afford a good quality sallet or two I would!
@opiwaran354
@opiwaran354 6 жыл бұрын
25:46 praise the sun!
@badpossum440
@badpossum440 7 жыл бұрын
What do these things weigh, no one mentions the weight of these helmets.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
A lot of surviving armets tend to be in the 6-8 lb range, give or take. Other styles of similarly sized helmets are pretty close to that range as well. There are of course exceptions.
@anna_in_aotearoa3166
@anna_in_aotearoa3166 2 жыл бұрын
So amazing to see the way the cheek plates just open up like that in order to don the armet! Until seeing it, didn't realise that I truly hadn't thought about how those guys managed to get their heads INSIDE their very close-fitting helms! 🤦🏻‍♀️ Just demonstrates the huge value of 3D reproductions, which help interrogate all the 2D shapes we see in the contemporary artworks...
@martshearer498
@martshearer498 8 жыл бұрын
I wonder if any armet aventails or mail borders survive? I would think a small hook, like we see on standards, used to close the front split would be a desirable feature.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
+Mart Shearer Agreed. It seems like a spot you wouldn't particularly want gapping open during a fight. I've seen reproductions that use lining and padding of the aventail to provide some structure to mitigate that risk, but a small hook would go a long way in protecting you there.
@thomaswalsh4552
@thomaswalsh4552 Ай бұрын
On the note of reinforcing weak spots: Wouldn’t the visor, with or without breaths/sights, be plenty of reinforcement? The added visibility and breathability (which is a relatively significant addition given the other holes being rather small as well) seems a very good trade off, especially as the visor isn’t resting solely on the teeth.
@Theo1505
@Theo1505 8 жыл бұрын
Nicely done. Thanks for another great video.
@TrollDragomir
@TrollDragomir 8 жыл бұрын
This series is absolutely amazing, fascinating topics and stunning reconstructions. I have a question, too. Do you know of any examples with helmets that had no vision slits, but all vision their visor offered would be holes similar to breaths? A noodle strainer visor, so to say :D
@yurisc4633
@yurisc4633 8 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video about armour fluting/fluted armour?
@ivanstrydom8417
@ivanstrydom8417 Жыл бұрын
Superb video sir.
@O.LEO.N
@O.LEO.N 10 ай бұрын
I seriously feel like this type of helmet is the BEST one for everythimg.
@junshynaza7990
@junshynaza7990 4 жыл бұрын
Cool that you actually wore the helmet, nice video
@edwarddoernberg3428
@edwarddoernberg3428 7 жыл бұрын
how much would the breaths in the visor weaken it, obviously there would be some weakening but that portion of the visor is supported by the picket fence wich alone does provide some protection. I would have expected these 2 weakened sections of armor together to still provide comparable protection to the single solid plate of the top of the visor or the left cheek. assuming the breaths and gaps in the picket fence line up (not clear on video if this is the case) then it can mitigate the very narrow vertical field of vision through the eye slits. also relevant would be whether such breaths are seen in historical sources, wich I don't know how/where to check.
@knightforlorn6731
@knightforlorn6731 3 жыл бұрын
your videos really help man, I'm learning a lot
@TheRadioactiveFX
@TheRadioactiveFX 8 жыл бұрын
Such an elegant design...
@FlubbersQuid
@FlubbersQuid 7 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate these informative videos. Very inspiring
@flyboymike111357
@flyboymike111357 8 жыл бұрын
Without the visor, cheek pieces, or tail, and with a two-piece riveted-construction, this could also easily be sold as a helmet for the Yoaman Class.
@pixelsheep8939
@pixelsheep8939 6 жыл бұрын
Armets will always be my favourite helmet
@theCreativeAssemblymachinimas
@theCreativeAssemblymachinimas 8 жыл бұрын
Being italian, it is quite funny to hear him pronouncing italian words.
@WARLog403
@WARLog403 8 жыл бұрын
Do you know of anyone that does videos about later eras of arms/armors/military history as good as yours, but for the later eras, like the 17th or maybe even the 18th century? A lot of people talk for as long as you do about such things, but don't say nearly as much.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
+WARLog403 Hi, thank you. No, I'm not familiar with anyone doing anything similar for the early modern era.
@DeadCamper
@DeadCamper 8 жыл бұрын
Is there a mechanism to hold the visor in place when it's turned up, to keep it from randomly falling down in battle (assuming the wearer wanted more visibility)?
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
+DeadCamper No mechanism that I've ever seen. One interesting feature that occurs in a lot of historical helmets with side-pivoting visors (in high enough frequency that it's hard to ignore) is that the pivots are not perfectly aligned. The slight offset between the pivots almost locks the visor in the up position when it's raised because of the twist it applies to the arms of the visor. Some try to say this is just a happy biproduct of imprecise smithing, but my personal opinion is that even if this did start as an accident, it probably became intentional. Medieval smiths were capable of aligning holes, that I can't believe it's purely accidental for over a century.
@DeadCamper
@DeadCamper 8 жыл бұрын
+Knyght Errant Thank you. That indeed seems like a clever and practical way of doing it, no need for fiddly pins and hooks etc.
@mehmetcy84
@mehmetcy84 8 жыл бұрын
Another great video.
@DevinSmith56
@DevinSmith56 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for these videos... Also, love that Razer Blade (laptop) that you have. I've done some repairs on one before and got to play around with it, and they're probably the nicest laptop I've ever seen.
@gokmasahala3032
@gokmasahala3032 4 жыл бұрын
COOL..TK'S FOR YOU TECHING ME....
@thomasheydenreich6555
@thomasheydenreich6555 8 жыл бұрын
Again a very excellent video! I really appreciate your channel. I have one question regarding the sort aventail on the example you have showed: as it is attached to the movable pieces at the sides of the helm, even when you fully close the helmet it seems to me that there is a small, but considerable gap in the mail right in front of your throat. Wouldn't it be easy to design the mail in a way that there is a higher amount of overlap of the mail coming from each side?
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
+Thomas Heydenreich Yeah, it's a weakness in the design. I've seen modern reconstructions try to get around this by backing the mail with a full lined and padded textile that provides more structure and closes the gaps more completely when it's on. I think the aventail on the particular one I show in this video is a little too short as well to really be effective. Here's a speculative attempt to correct what you're talking about (www.gambeson.pl/medieval-on-line-shop/14th-16th-century/armet.html) I would take it one step further though and add some small hooks to close that gap completely. Small hooks were used commonly on things like collars of mail, and I think they would go a long way here to protect the wearer and ensure overlap.
@thomasheydenreich6555
@thomasheydenreich6555 8 жыл бұрын
+Knyght Errant I totally agree with you, that there are for sure some fixes to this problem which wouldn't need a lot of tweaking. However, it is very interesting that in those times they probably did not see this to be an important enough problem to fix, which they otherwise would probably have done (as seen in general in the evolution of armor). Thanks for your answer!
@GM6linx
@GM6linx 8 жыл бұрын
Amazing videos, keep them coming!
@Rayboblego
@Rayboblego 8 жыл бұрын
A very good an informative video. Great work!
@metteuston7699
@metteuston7699 8 жыл бұрын
mOOT HOUSTON hur hur, of scrobblefloppertonks, I ken now fooly apporve uf dis chunnel
@NonApplicable1983
@NonApplicable1983 8 жыл бұрын
How the shit have I never met this guy before?
@milkshake2022
@milkshake2022 8 жыл бұрын
+Mett Euston r u tha reel mett eUst0n? da 1 form scholacafeteria?
@bubbleman2002
@bubbleman2002 7 жыл бұрын
donacdum
@Dark123hound
@Dark123hound 5 жыл бұрын
Woah now, calm down tard. Someone pin him him down while I fetch the tard wranglers.
@avo1386
@avo1386 8 жыл бұрын
My favorites are the bascinets and the pepperpot helms.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
+Necro Argumentum Ad Hominem Bascinets are my favorite as well! I may have a video or two on them ;)
@avo1386
@avo1386 8 жыл бұрын
+Knyght Errant I've watched one... Not the Great Bascinet one yet. Keyword 'yet' hahaha
@paulandsueroberts4121
@paulandsueroberts4121 8 жыл бұрын
Hi Ian,l had a couple visits to the imperial war museum (Leeds) last year,most interesting.I was wondering if you had managed to visit the UK or to Europe.keep up the good work,cheers.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
+Paul and Sue Roberts I took a school trip to Europe (A few days each in England, France and Italy) when I was in high school many years ago, but I was far too young to appreciate it and the stay was far too brief in each location. I would love to go back now!
@mistanix
@mistanix 8 жыл бұрын
wasn't there a knight who legend tells, wore armour so much that he used to go dancing in it, like it was light as a feather probably just a legend
@nicholasdeabreu5066
@nicholasdeabreu5066 8 жыл бұрын
a bit late and its a tale of a French knight and they did some testing and a lot of things they say he did are quite plausaible to a person whos body adapts to the weight like a second skin they had a person wear plate armor none stop and rock climb and exercise and everything in it. they could climb and even do cartwheels with some difficulty articulated plate gives much more freedom of movement then people give it credit for.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
I believe you're thinking of Jean le Maingre, better known as Marshal Boucicaut.
@felixk3814
@felixk3814 4 ай бұрын
Great vid, I love your channel❤ Could you do more on the venetian bascinet? Why don't they have any breathing holes?
@samuelbhend2521
@samuelbhend2521 4 жыл бұрын
15:47 that thing even still has the windup key for that tin soldier...
@LordLeovuldMeadowgrove
@LordLeovuldMeadowgrove 8 жыл бұрын
Great video, as always.^^
@gardenlizard1586
@gardenlizard1586 4 жыл бұрын
Picket fence visor is run the tip of sword down or up visor and picket fence does the rest IMO
@BigZ7337
@BigZ7337 8 жыл бұрын
That was a really interesting helmet, you don't really see anything quite like it in any of the armor from movies or shows. Instead of the visor being completely solid, do you think the air-holes might have just matched up with the ones on the right side plate?
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
+zarbran The visor doesn't extend much lower than the 'picket fence' so it's likely it just would have been completely solid, even on the right side. That's how most contemporary visors were made (in art and on similar helmets, like the Venetian great bascinets), and then again on future armet designs. It's possible though!
@blastmaster211
@blastmaster211 8 жыл бұрын
Hope you read this. Isnt the rondell aso for giving you fixation on the saddles of the time, since they where mire like big chairs on horseback.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
+blastmaster211 I'm not sure I follow what you're suggesting.
@JohnRaptor
@JohnRaptor 8 жыл бұрын
Something I've always wondered about helmets with hinged visors: How do you make sure the visor stays up when you want and doesn't fall back closed? Is it just that the hinges are tight enough for friction to keep it in place?
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
+John Erickson A lot of historical visor pivots are not perfectly in line with each other. They're offset just slightly. Whether this was intentional or not is a matter of debate, but the result is that when the visor is raised, it puts enough strain on the visor arms to hold it up. Most modern reproductions just use tight pivots.
@nickdenies9651
@nickdenies9651 8 жыл бұрын
nice! as always :p I have a question Involving Armets. In terms of useability in on foot fighting, how would a say "late 15th century" armet (without the extra whrapper plate) hold up against a sallet or kettle hat with a bevor? And would it be a "historically viable" choise for a man at arms mainly fighting on foot. And please add any other thoughts you have about this topic ;) Kind regards
@guardian9394
@guardian9394 8 жыл бұрын
The armet is my favorite type of helmet. It's basically the pinnacle of helmets isn't it? I also find it very aesthetic, and they look very intimidating if designed right.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
+Guardian Some might consider the 'close helm' a little more advanced, but I definitely prefer the aesthetic of the armet. They are very close to bascinets in my overall 'favorite helmets.'
@Moony16_
@Moony16_ 4 жыл бұрын
Can we get a brief overview of liners in armets and close helmets?
@DanielBlack82
@DanielBlack82 8 жыл бұрын
You showed some images of horses, how much armor would have heavy cavalier horses worn? I have seen some pictures of basically plate armor for horses, is that combat armor or is it Jousting basically 'sports' armor?
@johannesdolch
@johannesdolch 4 жыл бұрын
Ever wonder what a modern Version of this would look like? If you had a modern engineering team design the perfect medieval armor with whatever modern material they like?
@CamManTheWise
@CamManTheWise 3 жыл бұрын
You didn't say whether or not the extra holes in the bottom of the visor aided in expanding your field of vision. If the holes in the visor lined up with the gaps in the picket fence then they might be more for vision than for ventilation. True, they make the visor weaker, but the tradeoff may be worth it, at least in the opinion of the man who is wearing it.
@JETWTF
@JETWTF 6 жыл бұрын
With the wrapper plate and used more by cavalry I can imagine breathing wasn't as bad as the visor would be up more often than someone on the ground would have. Then I can see it being more required for cavalry because they are moving on a horse and there would be spears and swords pointing up from the ground making the impacts from them much more severe possibly able to bend the two cheek plates apart. A knight on the ground there wouldn't be the force multiplier called a horse so the chances of bending the plates is less and they would be moving about themselves rather than being carried so more breathing capabilities would be the better choice.
@بێزۆرگتێربۊرگێر
@بێزۆرگتێربۊرگێر 8 жыл бұрын
Hi Ian, I read a book about medieval weapons and armor in my HEMA-club a few months ago and besides the armet and great bascinet there were another 2 styles of helmets depicted among the helmets of that time, one of which was called "Bicoque": 41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m72bgafdfq1ryohhxo1_250.jpg Is that basically a variant of the armet?
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
+Al-Malik Al-Ashraf Khalil Yes, and variants that look similar appear in artwork as well.
@بێزۆرگتێربۊرگێر
@بێزۆرگتێربۊرگێر 8 жыл бұрын
Knyght Errant okay thanks for the answer and great video as always!
@DzinkyDzink
@DzinkyDzink 7 жыл бұрын
I have a question: can the hinges on the side cheeks be damaged if you take a hit in a cheek(not hinges themselves) and be disabled, blocking your head within the helmet? How robust are they? The whole systems looks like an overcomplication compared to a bascinet.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 7 жыл бұрын
It is more complicated than the bascinet, but the change in mobility and weight is very significant. I've never heard of an armet failing in the way you describe. They were popular for 2 centuries (much longer than the standard bascinet) so it must have been a solid design. Even after close helmets became popular in the 16th century, the true armet with hinged cheek plates does not go away.
@vedymin1
@vedymin1 8 жыл бұрын
i have a question, is such a close fit really beneficial in a helmet ? From what i learned about helmets, the really good ones were somewhat floating on your head, not directly transfering the blows to it, therefore reducing blunt force and sudden acceleration of the head due to blows.
@blakeherrington2464
@blakeherrington2464 4 жыл бұрын
The later ones may not have breaths but they have Romelyn Dreths. 👍
@effe125
@effe125 8 жыл бұрын
Hi Knyght ! I really do like your helmet series. Keep it up, could you make a sallet video please ? This would be really awesome, sallets are just so cool :)
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
+Dominique It will be coming. I just recently got hold of a friend's sallet and bevor, but I have not begun the work for the video, so hang in there and it will be here soon. :)
@godqueenbidoof
@godqueenbidoof 8 жыл бұрын
What's the source of the Armet you displayed at 15:38 ? I'd like to see if there are more pictures of it (front, back, profile) to draw them onto my character's "model" I've pretty much decided on having her use a Armet helm.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
Click the + sign next to 'additional images' and you should get everything you need: www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/22774
@godqueenbidoof
@godqueenbidoof 8 жыл бұрын
Indeed thanks!
@HaNsWiDjAjA
@HaNsWiDjAjA 8 жыл бұрын
+Knyght Errant How would you incorporate padding into this style of helmet? Is it internally lined or do you wear it with a padded cap? Thanks!
@manfredconnor3194
@manfredconnor3194 Жыл бұрын
Very cool. I hope you are still around?
@rasiabsgamingcorner2258
@rasiabsgamingcorner2258 6 жыл бұрын
So is this the type of helmet that is often depicted in shows and movies with 3 bars going vertical on the visor
@Asodius
@Asodius Жыл бұрын
I just bought myself one of these helmets, would the kit that goes with it look more like 1390 (with fabric garment over the torso and/or sleeves) or with the later style of exposed armor?
@chrisbritt4266
@chrisbritt4266 5 жыл бұрын
Neat I wonder how much a proper authentic reproduction good for combat would be
@charlesw5919
@charlesw5919 8 жыл бұрын
Love the design of this helmet. Not only is it esthetic and functional, it also solved the problem a lot of other visored helmets have: noticeable reduction in protection when the visor is raised. Can you attach a plate gorget to it instead of the mail one?
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
+Charles W There's no indication I'm aware of that the earlier armets were ever worn with plate throat defense other than what was provided by the helmet itself. Of course later styles would incorporate the removable wrapper to reinforce the throat, but I've not seen them worn with a discreet gorget.
@charlesw5919
@charlesw5919 8 жыл бұрын
Knyght Errant Yeah, I did some research and all variations of this helmet I see come with mail aventail.
@ratsandradishes
@ratsandradishes 6 жыл бұрын
As if you wouldn't have painted eyes on the Churburg Armet, that would have been spooky as hell on a battlefield
@hacheurdepoulet
@hacheurdepoulet 8 жыл бұрын
I love me some Armet ! Do you think it would go well with a more gothic style armour ? :)
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
+hacheurdepoulet In the later 15th century when gothic armor existed, armets are usually paired with Milanese style harnesses.
@hacheurdepoulet
@hacheurdepoulet 8 жыл бұрын
+Knyght Errant i know that, but do you think (or have you found) any evidence of an armet matching a gothic styled armour (I know this is very specific but I'm considering getting some armour, for the mid to late XVth century era and I've always been in love with both the gothic fluting and the armet)
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
+hacheurdepoulet Not that I've seen.
@hacheurdepoulet
@hacheurdepoulet 8 жыл бұрын
thanks anyway, great video, as per usual :)
@actingamer101
@actingamer101 8 жыл бұрын
I used to own an armet that had a larger beak but very narrow visor
@naumsei6221
@naumsei6221 6 жыл бұрын
I like the Burgonet.
@garyhall2565
@garyhall2565 7 жыл бұрын
That's a huge helmet!!!
@Bananadoom
@Bananadoom 8 жыл бұрын
Regarding visors, how do you keep them up? It seems like you'd want them up most of the time, but when you're riding or running around your head's going to be bouncing up and down a lot and it seems like the visor would keep falling down, which would be really annoying.
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
+Bananadoom Either make sure the pivots are very tight, or what we see on a lot of historical side-pivoting helmets is that the pivots are not perfectly aligned. With the pivots being slightly offset and out of alignment, when you raise the visor it torques the arms of the visor enough to sort of lock it in place. Some people think this is a happy accident of imprecise medieval handwork, others think it's far too common to be coincidence.
@jasonbane3646
@jasonbane3646 4 жыл бұрын
One of the main features of a lot of these helmets is to provide maximum protection of the face so that no weapon can reach it. Have they ever tried carrying a bottle filled with acid or some other type of liquid that could be poured through the openings in front of the helmet? Or was it too inconvenient to attempt in battle?
@bublinek9439
@bublinek9439 8 жыл бұрын
hey Ian! I've got question for you! What type of fight do you prefer? I mean, whitch style do you fighting? Simple European duel 1 vs 1, bohurts, HEMA, or SCA? Thank you for answer ;) BTW Im form Poland, so please don't kill me for grammatical errors :)
@KnyghtErrant
@KnyghtErrant 8 жыл бұрын
+Młody Rymcymcerz As far as modern fighting goes, I prefer HEMA-based armored fighting and Historical Deeds of Arms.
@bublinek9439
@bublinek9439 8 жыл бұрын
Ok, thank you ;)
@DerRamantis
@DerRamantis 8 жыл бұрын
Might I ask what the song is called that begins playing at 0:12?
@gnoreyidnorvick8774
@gnoreyidnorvick8774 Ай бұрын
Le Jugement du Roi de Navarre: Ballade "Esperance" 8 years late but anyway
@buttered__toast_2899
@buttered__toast_2899 2 жыл бұрын
25:40 almost as satisfying as a Garand ping
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