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[@AzureKyle]

For those who are wondering about the 'Good Ending', we are living it now. The 'Good Ending' is our timeline, where they're all friends streaming together and having fun.

[@Aeikon]

My theory is that this was the last bad ending. As reality is being destroyed, you can see the symbol of hope flying through the dust clouds. That could mean that Ame, choosing to try again in the hope that even the tiniest chance of a good outcome happening, spawned Irys; who came along with Council. Hence giving us the good ending.

[@alial6658]

Koe said that in the video

[@LemoNanora]

I still think Fauna's halloweEN stories is the good ending

[@Sapizanza]

@@Aeikon this makes way too much sence

[@wraith_1367]

@@Aeikon so irys is a hidden character with a small chance of spawning when the game is booted up, and through this rare character different endings are possible

[@beornwagner1]

Apparently no-one said this, even in chat, so: When Ame gets into the theater, the timestamp on the video is the estimated age of the universe in hours.

[@velveteensallet949]

I believe someone in the comment section mentioned that.

[@saynay302]

You'll notice also that when the video starts playing again, both the current time and max time start counting up. Just another hint that the timeline wasn't rewound, but reset / destroyed.

[@Domura]

Twitch chat can barely remember their own age at the best of times.

[@sixjhontongalamar979]

@@saynay302 another hint to that was the dead Ames bodies. If time really got rewinded, then they wouldn't be there. Another is that the previous Ame said "another" Kiara, Calli, Gura, and Ina. It was also said in the end that "the world" was destroyed. What I'm thinking tho is that instead of the Ancient Ones, it was Ame who was the "one entity" that destroyed the "world" whatever "world" meant in this case.

[@jhaydee7203]

"You're just a Shark!" No Koe, she's the last daughter of Atlantis, that's Poseidon's Trident, she wields the power of the old Gods.

[@karactr8361]

Hear, hear!! She has NEVER been "just a shark". She the 9000 or more year old last survivor of Atlantis. The heir and hold to all their power and lore. Which would mean that whatever did bring Atlantis down (I am unsure of the Moona/AO lore side of that), she was apparently their equal or too powerful for them to destroy. Too bad her trident aim in Minecraft isn't as good as Mazu makes it in this video. 😂

[@Justakatto]

@@karactr8361 Oh wow.. I knew she was much more that "just a shark" but I didn't know about all that Atlantis stuff wow

[@reaperofthings]

Basically, Ame sacrifices herself every *Bad* loop trying to give another Amelia Watson enough time to eventually find a new solution and get the *Good* ending, with the implication that one of them succeeded, resulting in our timeline. The cinema reel that she destroyed reset time itself, going back to before the Big Bang. The “one entity destroyed the world” was actually Ame, who unmade all of creation trying to save her friends. What that means for Council however, is a very pissed off Kronii. I wouldn’t be surprised if Mazu made a Council animation soon

[@드래곤원-h4j]

@@Darksynth- Theories are best made at 1am with a cup of caffeine in hand. The time when your mind is most unpredictable.

[@kayoshibe]

Someone mentioned a theory that Ame's continued sacrifices eventually gave way to hope, which causes Irys to appear in what would become our timeline, and that when we see Irys guiding Gura in the Shark'd video, it means that Gura was introduced to the other members of Holomyth sooner than she would've without her guidance.

[@dabombishere123]

Ame rewinded the clock back to the start of the Big Bang, but Kronii is the warden of time of ALL universes, right? Not just the one Ame wound back.

[@somename3424]

@@dabombishere123 since there are many Ame's but only 1 Kronii, i agree with that theory

[@ryanlarkin9783]

I imagine the good ending happened bc Council came into the world prior to Ina losing control. This begs the question: Was it the Manipulator that caused Ina to lose control, and does Council stop him/her/it in this timeline. I also think it'd be really funny if the reason why Council came down in the first place is bc Kronii was getting pissed off that someone keeps resetting time.

[@Mecha_Neko]

Bro that shot of Ina saying "I'm sorry" hurts every time

[@dandavis5533]

I cry like a little girl who skinned her knee from the moment Ina pushes her hand away from Gura's throat until the moment Ame stops time. That whole part is just soul crushing.

[@WrensthavAviovus]

They un-tako-d our tako girl

[@sonibrahmana5814]

It's like Ame is doing some mad rerolls to get the universe where Yagoo exists.

[@EpicNerdsWithCameras]

Gacha players rerolling their accounts to get the character they want.

[@huzzahuttus5963]

Actually that would be a defenite goal, Yagoo basically gathered everyone and helped them

[@ukrinedino1823]

But the price of reroll was her life and some bits of hope

[@sonibrahmana5814]

@@ukrinedino1823 You're looking at it a bit too close. The price of it is the *entire* universe. Restart it all back from the big bang until she could get the 'good' timeline, which is our timeline right now.

[@umbraemilitos]

15:40 Ame added the timetravel bit to her lore in her first week of streaming. She teased the purpose of her watch during a Fall Guys stream, and then gave a "demonstration" with many of the iconic Ame sound effects.

[@ChaosLightspeed]

Also important to note that it WAS supposed to be there during debut. The video for it wasn't ready on time, and because of nerves she forgot to bring it up. She said as much during her first anniversary stream.

[@OhNoTheFace]

@@ChaosLightspeed I mean I would hope so. The whole thing is supposed to be very Dr Who I assume

[@philtkaswahl2124]

Koe saying "Jesus, nerf her!" just before the scene where the Ancient Ones stop using Ina as their vessel and thus take their power away from her because she defied them was peak unintentional timing. And then he follows it up by "who said that's a bad ending" just before the Ancient Ones vaporize her and Gura.

[@rorymercury3977]

I guess when you collab with hololive, you will get a portion of their comedic timing power xD

[@philtkaswahl2124]

@@rorymercury3977 Honorary comedian. A Koemedian, if you will.

[@Emyrsbeard]

@@philtkaswahl2124 a koemedian? lmao

[@Cyber_N-7660]

@@philtkaswahl2124 INAFF

[@Renzu-ZG]

@@philtkaswahl2124 r/foundinaalt

[@thevictoryoverhimself7298]

5:55 she turns into red Gura at this point. It’s a little hard to tell in the black and white but the hair highlights are a dead giveaway

[@BionicDirector117]

Aka Gawr

[@horizonbumpy2828]

yup, but Koe spends more time talking over it and addressing the wrong things so it all goes over his head

[@Tizjiz]

I bet Koe is that friend you watch a movie with and he keeps turning away from the movie to ask you questions about the movie. 😂

[@Lehmuska]

@@horizonbumpy2828 In his defense, he has to do that if he wants to stream it on twitch or upload it on youtube. If he didn't talk over it and just watched it without commentary, it's not so much transformative use of the watched content and more just stealing someone else's creation for content on his own channel. It's really difficult to talk over something and pay attention to it at the same time.

[@Rodrigo761980]

One theory is that in that timeline Hololive didn't exist, also as the world rewind, you can see Irys, meaning that in that timeline, she got there too late, now I'm not sure if it's intentional, but in Gura's animation, Irys push Gura toward Hololive when she whisper in her ear, which mean that Irys was the one to get the girl together in Hololive, and if that's so, it gives more meaning to her codename Project : Hope, you can also think that the council joining Hololive is to keep the ancient one in check, and you can see that Irys act as a bridge as she is often considered to be part of both gen

[@leandroiuki4337]

IRyS lore is accurate on the animation. The lyrics of her music "Caesura of Despair" and "Here comes Hope" describes the events of the bad ending and what changed to have the good ending.

[@jonglopez5400]

this is canon for me. i don't care what everyone else says.

[@satousuzuki8997]

Where's Omega in all of this?

[@ADayinWhite]

@@satousuzuki8997 You talking about in the animation or in OUR Hololive? I guess it doesn't really matter, though. The answer is the same: Nobody knows. Nobody ever knows. They pop up like once a year for something incredibly inconsequential and then immediately fade back into obscurity.

[@testthetime]

Even in the original animation Smol Ame, Irys also the one made them all join Hololive and said “I’m just giving people what they want” with T-pose and laughing of course.

[@bondrewedthesoverignofdawn1477]

Ina is the most "when you fight against a boss and when you unlock as a playable character" persona. Truly a "waa" moment right there

[@rezendeiiz.knight1084]

like that cool game animation when ina joins the group

[@bewe5473]

The reason why holoEN gets so much high quality fan animation is because of how rich their lore really is. Like, time-traveler detective alone can open up so much lore potential, added with an long life and super human atlantian on her journey to discover other mythical beings is just a great formula. I even wrote my own fanstory about myth on how ina became a vessel for ancient ones. Damn I can't wait for holoEN gen 3, i wonder what theme they're gonna have.

[@britonro7975]

Ina, by herself with the ancient ones, has opened up so much lore and theories that it isn’t even just Myth anymore- it involves council and *ID* now, since High Tide came out and Moona’s little wink wink nudge. Frankly, if Holox was somehow involved I wouldn’t even be surprised

[@shawdou3327]

It is not just they had good lore, they also took their lore and build and expanded it extremely by themselves to next level.

[@Tizjiz]

Yep! Life and Death, Atlantis, Cthulhu, detective. You can make connections between them all. Also the girls and fans did a phenomenal job expanding on everyone’s lore.

[@techsoly]

Honestly funny how Ame was never supposed to be a time traveler. Her entire theme was just being a detective but the fanbase continously paired her with time traveling to make her just as powerful as the others and it stuck to her as added lore

[@Tizjiz]

@@techsoly It's what I always loved about Justice League cartoon was with all the gods walking around, you had 1 man... Batman. Ame is still just a human and time travel is a gadget. I wouldn't say she's as powerful as the others but it's a fun plot device and gimmick.

[@FantasticMrFrog]

2:05 [明日も晴れるといいね] by DOVA-Syndrome (Ina's intro BGM) 2:20 [Excuse my rudeness, but could you please RIP ?] by Mori Calliope 2:47 [Hinotori] by Takansashi Kiara 4:38 Nod to the JAWS theme 4:50 [Reflect] by Gawr Gura 5:23 Ina's intro BGM again 8:18 [Violet] by Ninomae Ina'nis 12:16 [おもちゃのダンス] by DOVA-Syndrome (Amelia's intro BGM)

[@Agaures]

Thank you so much for the timestamps! I love the way they worked the girls' songs into the music. Gave me chills for sure.

[@Subberguy]

The animations are in no way connected but in the “Shark’d” animation on Gura’s channel, IRyS whispers in Gura’s ear making her notice the Hololive audition poster. I like to think that IRyS made it in time to prevent Myth’s bad end in this timeline.

[@fulnaz3164]

Ame with the sigma grindset of never losing hope

[@kunam2694]

Lore accurate Ame Way

[@Rhethardation]

#AmeBeliever

[@moni_dt]

16:02 It all started with a certain Q&A. Someone asked about her clock and she said something along the lines of "This is a magical clock. Sorry, not magical, a sci-fi clock." And she made a sound that is impossible to explain. A sound that would make Dio ashamed of his WRRYYYY. And the time traveler detective was born. In her lore, she is literally just a detective, with no powers whatsoever, investigating 4 supernatural beings, the other myth members.

[@ChaosLightspeed]

Actually, it was supposed to be there from the start, and she said as much during her first anniversary stream. It's also 100% official now if there was any doubt because in a recent collab between Cover and a game called CounterSide, her Time travel abilities are the major plot point reason for the collab happening.

[@atk9989]

@@ChaosLightspeed i mean Cover embraced that as official awhile ago with the Holo Alternative anime i think it was where they had Ame go back in time and shot down Coco making her crash into the Hololive office which lead to her joining and then being the driving force for creating HoloEN. Which also just so happens to fall right in line with aiming for the "Good Ending".

[@ChaosLightspeed]

@@atk9989 That comic wasn't official, and her time travel stuff wasn't really shown at all with the Alternative video.

[@NousagiSubs]

Holy crap you weren't kidding how did she make that sound lol

[@Shiroya_Rumika]

On that week, Ame died twice and Ina destroyed a timeline twice!

[@TheBlakamon15]

Ame is the one that destroy the timeline not Ina.

[@vkarvanzer4243]

Ina destroyed the world, Ame destroyed (?) the timeline

[@angelcry9950]

I think the OP is referring to the shorts writen by Fauna for HoloweEn as well as Mazu's Myth Bad Ending

[@TakoQuarantineDepartment]

@@angelcry9950 that is correct, that would be the meme. But Idk OPs intentions lol

[@conchi4228]

I love that he puts each members song (or in Ame's case, her BGM) during their fight.

[@dandavis5533]

Every reaction video I have seen of this, they start commenting on the additional animation of Ame and end up talking over Calli's music, so they miss that first audio cue and just never pick up on it through the rest of the video.

[@Coramelimane]

Ame made her time travel lore up randomly to address why an 1890s detective is living in 2020.

[@ShadeSlayer1911]

I've been conditioned to assume time travel shenanigans whenever seeing a pocketwatch, especially on a British person.

[@ChaosLightspeed]

She didn't make it up randomly. It was supposed to be there on debut but the video she wanted to use for it wasn't ready on time and nerves caused her to forget to mention it. She said this herself in her first anniversary stream.

[@renvega9515]

Ina when she absorbs all forbidden puns in the world. And myths are there to stop her.

[@birubu]

Personally, I think the music production and sound design is underrated. The use of some of each myth member’s songs as motifs for the background music in an orchestral style is 10/10. Sound design is also thunderous and sharp, perfectly synced with the music and events on screen.

[@TheGimpster101]

It only took a year and a half but he finally finishes, glad he was finally able to watch the entirety of this.

[@AzureKyle]

Also, each member of HoloMyth have seen parts of this, and have expressed interest in voicing themselves in this. Hopefully Cover can work something out with Mazu and get them to voice themselves.

[@ADayinWhite]

I mean no offense, but I hope it stays silent. Reason: Have you heard Gura (amongst others) voice act on recording? She can do it real time, but as soon as she has to record lines... err... You've heard the first Umisea single, right? I think that proves my point.

[@zero1343]

@@ADayinWhite there has been some improvement but yeah still needs a bit more practice with actual vo work.

[@ADayinWhite]

@@zero1343 I can't deny that, but "some improvement" still doesn't make it 'passable'.

[@TF_NowWithExtraCharacters]

@@ADayinWhite Same opinion here, the girls aren't exactly great dramatic voice actors. Though to be fair, Gura's performance in the HoloweEN short was pretty competent and the rest were decent too. Based on those performances I'd say I have the least confidence in Kiara, only because her HoloweEN one was completely genki so it's hard to tell how she'll do over here.

[@ShadeSlayer1911]

@@ADayinWhite Counter: Have you watched the Holoween shorts? Sure, Umisea wasn't great with anyone's voice acting. But Holoween shows that many of them actually have decent to good voice acting skills. Granted, I have no idea how well Bad Ending would actually turn out with actual voices. I've grown to appreciate the silent voices quite a lot.

[@hatzuling]

I like to imagine that original Ame stole the watch, and Kronii was like "it doesn't matter cause she won't change anything and it will always end this way" and it became sort of a challenge/entertainment. And now Kronii doesn't care that Ame has the watch because she knows Ame saved the universe somehow and won't ever use it to revert back to the bad ending

[@trysephiroth007]

The original lore she came up with was she got it from Ina. Obviously there was no Kronii when she debuted so I wonder if she'll ever put out a lore video for it.

[@shinigamimiroku3723]

@Troy Moore I could see Ina being gifted it by Kronii because, as the Guardian of Time, she sees what is needed but cannot directly intervene. So, this gift is the key to Hope and, because she becomes the bearer of Myth's hopes and dreams, Ame's decision to destroy the timeline rather than rewinding it was enough manifestation of hope to cause IRyS to appear to Gura in Shark'd.

[@Insanity_101]

Koefficient - "Who says that was a bad ending?" Koefficient 18 seconds later - "Oooooooh"

[@Rolasu_Draygan]

Actually insane how high quality everything is. Imagine if Mazu had a full team, backed by Hololive. Also huge shoutouts to DaphDafDave for the SFX and Daryl Barnes for the amazing mix of Ame's BGM. Just 3 people made something this incredible. It boggles my mind

[@MrDimox]

Astartes. 1 person. Now Games Workshop has eaten him and I guess he'll have people...but it'll never be as good.

[@JT1698]

Can’t wait for Mazu to make a meme post animation of Kronii beating Ame’s ass for messing with her turf lol.

[@Mousse9]

I’m envisioning Kronii coming back from a Subway run to see the Council Room *flooded* with dead Ames. “WTF happened here?!”

[@Charon85Onozuka]

@@Mousse9 Even if just a single panel, I want to see this now.

[@karactr8361]

Question: Since Kronii is time AND since Ame controls time, does that make Kronii Ame's bottom? If the answer is "yes", than i think Ame would be better served worrying about Mumei.

[@oxybe]

@@Mousse9 I like the idea that there is a Subway Outside Space and Time. Off all things that can be a constant across all timelines, it's a Subway: something so stupidly mundane somehow managed to become a fixed point of space and time and can survive the universe resetting. Like, the universe is unmaking itself and being reborn repeatedly but this one Subway stands in defiance and is completely unperturbed by what's going on, serving folks like it's just another Tuesday. And Kronii's just holding up the line as reality goes bonkers, pondering for eons her choice of bread: if she wants plain white or the Italian herb and cheese.

[@Mousse9]

@@oxybe Sounds very Hitchhiker Guide to the Galaxy. I think Sana could be running it, she likes bread.

[@delphy2478]

i love that red-gura is basically her devil trigger. overall, this is such an amazing short movie. my favorite little tidbit is that the 'time' on the video when ame shows up is basically the estimated life of the universe in hours

[@0Qualit]

One very meta story about Ina is how the Takodachis might be the ones saving her In Vtubing being fans and calling ourselves a fan name is our way to connect ourselves to the Vtuber. In lore Takodachis might be whatever is keeping Ina grounded and even leeching TAO’s power to keep them in check.

[@OhNoTheFace]

As a fun touch on the zoom out on the reset we saw you can actually see Irys (Hope) descending. And in Gura's SHARK'D animation, Irys directs her towards the hololive sign. I'm not saying it's related but Hope MAY be helping this timeline

[@SKy_the_Thunder]

Neat detail: The timestamp the projected video originally paused at is the approximate age of our universe.

[@Starkiller5121]

I love how on the council symbols, Sana's is glitchingz signifying her leaving but always being remembered

[@trysephiroth007]

Ame had a video she was working on with Ina for her debut involving time travel but they didn't finish it in time.

[@stnhndg]

"She's just a shark"... mmm she's an Atlantean princess, and those people were so powerfull they literally sunk their own continent.

[@amazingsam1295]

Theres a misconception I see people have that Ame just added her Time Travel aspect on a whim, but she had always planned to have it be apart of her. She even planned to have an intro Explain it and how she got her Watch for her Debut, but ran out of Time and had to be scrapped. In it, it was implied that Ina was the one to Give Ame the Watch when she was young

[@riluna3695]

This is the first I'm hearing about this, and I'm super curious. Do you remember where this info comes from and/or how to find it?

[@amazingsam1295]

@@riluna3695 it was first mentioned on Inas Channel on November 15th 2020 during there collab around the 58 minute mark where they hint at it for a couple seconds. Later Ame would use the art draft Ina made as a way to cover her map for Apex streams. I cant remember when it was mentioned again, but the most recent mention was during her Q and A stream on July 16th 2022 at the 1:42:00 where she talks about it for a bit

[@amazingsam1295]

@@riluna3695 okay Found the time between the Q and A and Apex streams, it was her Debut Watchalong on September 13, 2021 on the 5 Minute mark and talks about it for a minute and a half, mentions Time Travel as well

[@riluna3695]

@@amazingsam1295 Wow, you brought the receipts. Yeah, this stuff pretty well dispels the idea of the time traveling aspect being accidental or coincidental. Thank you VERY much for all of this, I was able to find these clips super easily and confirm them myself. Your name definitely checks out :D

[@amazingsam1295]

@@riluna3695 No problem, always happy to clear things up

[@nathanhiggins860]

Great animation and it reminds me of the line "all this has happened before, and all this will happen again", lets try one more time.

[@dandavis5533]

Ame is a Cylon?

[@nathanhiggins860]

@@dandavis5533 Used in Battlestar Galactica but originally from Peter Pan.

[@bboyhavoc]

One thing people missed is when it shows the Council's icons, you'll notice that Sana's space icon is flickering... because, well, we all know why o7

[@nufau_]

I think it could also reference how the universe was being destroyed too

[@interrobang8645]

Also an indirect reference to Sana being an apostle of the Ancient Ones.

[@joannelimin4400]

Also would think that Sana failed to stop the Ancient Ones from descending that's why it's flickering. Just a theory I read

[@jjpasay]

Feel like a lot of people missed it, but the reason Kiara and Calli remained out of the battle was because the Ancient One was using them as fuel by the end. Right before Gura smashed Ina to a goop, you can see the orb where Kiara and Calli were sealed glow briefly as things got more intense. When AO left Ina, you can see it go to the black floating orb right before it transformed into a giant hand and unleashed the biggest beam in the short film. tl;dr: Ina ate Calli and Kiara before shooting out white stuff

[@mekelwander6551]

"TIME DETECTIVE WATSON!" should totally be the sound effect whenever Ame uses her time clock, just gives off Kamen Rider vibes.

[@TheSeelieCourtier]

Gura: The problem with you "immortals"....you've forgotten how to fight for your survival.

[@VanBlackstar]

Yep. If Kiara dies she reincarnated and revives as new. But Gura who only have semi-immortality (only eternal youth but can die), she fight to survives and will not let anyone or anything kill her. That is why i would say, in-lore Gura have more experience on fighting to the death than the other holomyth.

[@boingboingresearcherph.d.2871]

You could also close your eyes and listen to the music... The ochestral arrangements of their songs are amazing...

[@DaultonYoung]

What is kinda great, is since there is no evidence of Takos in the bad ending, it implies that the existence of Takos in our timeline is either some sort of limiter on the ancient one, or some kind of compromise that is acceptable to the ancient one for World DomINAnation.

[@daverboy]

One of my favorite parts of this is that all of the dramatic orchestral background music is based on the girl's songs. You can hear bits of "Excuse My Rudeness But Could You Please RIP" when Calli attacks, there's bits of "Reflect" for Gura, etc

[@DelphinSquared]

If the animator ever gets funding and/or support from Hololive itself, it would be a dream come true to have more animations from him and Possibly a potential Team. Heck, even Kanauru joined the Ame-crew and helped with the production of HoloEN videos and other assets, So why not this guy?

[@benl.ofthegamecatarmy]

I didn't catch that the symbols in the theater were the Council but it's hilarious...hmm, no, it's fitting that the Space symbol was glitching

[@Sycafox]

You know what? I've read a comment once that makes it impossible to unsee one heart-breaking detail. When Calli and Kiara are about to get sucked into the orb Chibaku Tensei style, Calli turns and rushes towards Kiara to protect her, but it is in vain... I'm tearing up at this part every. Single. Time.

[@micp4130]

In her debut it wasn't specified she was a time traveller. She has said that she meant to include that in her debut, but stress and lack of sleep made her forget it. The clock imagery was there from the start indicating it was always the intention, she just didn't get around to it until later.

[@daverowlands6692]

@8:09, "Who said that was a bad ending?" Ina has no flaps or squishy hair! How can it be anything but a bad ending?

[@zzskyninjazz1821]

We no longer get bonked

[@isdrakon9802]

To be fair the squish was replaced with some of the best hair animation I've seen

[@et1033]

What I find really interesting about this animation is that Ame had NEVER specified that she had anything to do with time. Her design's inspiration is already a modern myth among people, a cracked shot sidekick of a legendary detective. The thing that kind of set off her having time traveling abilities is a total absence of abnormality in her lore among her Gen mates that have EVERY abnormality and that pocket watch being a key part of her costume's design. And people fucking RAN with it. So cool.

[@mongooseunleashed]

Kroni: "So Ame, where did you get that pocket watch?" Ame: "Uhhh, I gotta go! BYE!"

[@ROMANNN12]

I like Watoto reference

[@AethernaLuxen]

The saddest part is when the council’s symbols showed up, space was bugged, we miss sana

[@faixoner4052]

This, and the Oddloop song fananimation of ame work in the same beautiful way to showcase how great the ame lore is, both also get in the theme of ina going full last boss and killing everyone and ame trying to find a way to solve it, it's my favorite animation cus how profound it touches the personalities of ame & kronii

[@Coffy-chan]

The fact that Mazu connected this to Gura's music video, making this canon, is fucking insane. Making fan works is one thing, but making fan works that tie into official canon is even crazier. This means that AI-chan, Yagoo, A-chan, Sora, Miko, Matsuri, Haachama, Korone, Coco, IRyS, Myth, Council, and SSX, are responsible for the current timeline.

[@hersondomingo2564]

Loved your reaction Koe other holomyth wanted to voice this Holomyth vs Ina dub as their fan project.

[@hybrid22003]

She did not make Cali and Kiara disappear. She crushed them into that ball. And used them as her final attack. You can hear Kiaras phoenix cry.

[@Rhethardation]

I dont know if this is real or not but the fact that attack sounded like kiara is quite chilling. Just imagine Kiara trying her best to escape the ball but she just ends up killing Ina and Gura.

[@n4m31355h4dow]

@@Rhethardation i hate how you make it more sad

[@nitsuji6705]

I wanna shoehorn my Council lore headcanon that the theatre was the original hangout place of the concepts before signing up and debuting as vtubers. I mean in terms of lore, Sana caused Armageddon by accidentally turning off her size limiter so in my head the universe resetting and multiple timelines spawning is something the Council doesn’t think about too seriously. We are now in the good timeline where hope descended on time and the Council finished making preparations and debuting. The reason why the theatre was unguarded was because Council was preparing for their debuts and now that they’re here the good ending is achieved! Hope descended followed by Council and has now made friends with the Myth, and the world ending is now a spicy scenario because our fates has already been decided.

[@Red-io7jg]

I kinda felt like I was watching animation from ufotable...

[@badonshrimp6851]

People in the comment section is so creative when its come to lore.. i love this community so much

[@alchemistrius253]

I like it when Amelia got to the theater,you can see Sana symbol is kinda blurry.That was some good yet very sad detail.Sana,you will never be forgotten.

[@JE.M07]

She absorbed Kiara and Calli, they're on that huge black sphere, then the "Ancient One" used Kiara's beam. Sana's icon was glitching, reference to her graduation. Theory: Council were watching the whole thing, they always were, they can't interfere somehow. So, they sent Irys (Hope) when Ame rewind the timeline, you can see her dropping when the world was rewinding.

[@Crocoeyes]

If the Council is involved i'm pretty sure Bae is responsible for all what is happen. Bae is also the reason why Iry's is born.

[@interrobang8645]

Given that Ame's body doesn't disappear from the theatre, it could be that in the process of unravelling her timeline, she also removes her mass/energy from the big bang. Which thanks to the butterfly effect (chaos theory) results in things being different. So Ame's hope is realised through chaos, and Bae and IRyS are at the heart of it all.

[@Crocoeyes]

@@interrobang8645 but Ame can only observe the process, she doesn't have the power to change anything, i guess. Only Kroni have this power but Kroni will have to pay a heavy price for the action and she's the only one who knows the answer, would she eager to tell?

[@CinestesiaAnime]

I loved Koe shutting the fuck up the text-to-speech message interrupting.

[@seanpaul1054]

i think ame just adding the time traveling lore to her just after debut is a chefs kiss to this timeline. because council created project: hope especially for ame in able to stop her from stealing kronii's time traveling tool so technically she didnt need to time travel because of project:hope that put the pieces together so that ame and her friends on hololive will go a different path from the last timeline. I also rhink hope sign in the end was her spawning from the theater because of ame's unwavering hope of sometime or somewhere she and her friends will be able to go a different path which is exactly our path and this timeline.

[@LilyHooper]

Kind of amazed you still havent reacted to Gura's official animation.

[@Kodamako]

sadly many people are not aware of the reference to ''the girl who leapt through time''

[@TheAHuman]

Koe hasn’t shown himself watching HoloweEN yet either. I don’t know if he has watched it yet. But he should if not.

[@SteelGnat]

The fun thing about this is fans can play around with it as we might like to interpret since we already know that their is almost infinite number of parallel universes with Amelias Ame verse stories and smol ame reviews so all of these can be canonical seperate timeline as long as we follow the basic guidelines which all people agree as perminant features same with the SCP files people can submit what they want as a creator as long as they follow thr universal rules the community unanimosly agree on as well as the past connections

[@notfunny6606]

I bet if you give this guy like 5 years he could make the one and only sickest Hololive movie

[@sungvin]

Thank you for your reaction! I really don’t have any friends that know hololive, so I couldn’t share this animation at the time of its creation

[@TofuGCH]

Been waiting for this let's go!

[@mr.stoneface7699]

Another piece of lore: When Ame is in the screening room, it's playing a KZbin video. There are 120,774,120,000,014 minutes in the video, which maths out to 229,630,770 YEARS. Amelia Watson rewound to (probably) the beginning of the entire HoloMyth timeline, starting with (I think?) Gura the Atlantian megalodon.

[@SDE1994]

Mazu's work needs to be made official

[@Sycafox]

Also, yes, Council appeared with their symbols. But IRyS did as well. When Ame rewinds and the camera flies from the ground up the clouds, there's this little butterfly-ish light...

[@chainclaw07]

Yeah, Ame did have a stopwatch on her outfit but the timetravel was an offhand comment about how she controls time, that's how she keeps up with these mythical beings (I believe). AND FROM ONLY THAT WE GOT THE AME-VERSE, with smol ame etc. Ame REALLY came out strong with creative ideas for her character and streams, I mean... watsons concoction? that was so weird and fun.

[@Lelmao33]

Slight note, but you should also see HoloEN Oddloop. It oddly has some connections

[@Nippontradamus]

That's such a sleeper animation! It's cute and dark

[@TheKairon999]

Wait... what if the first Ame either rewound it and tried multiple times... or re-watched it from the beginning... billions of years alone in a theatre

[@Zacatexas]

Koe hopefully reacts to the Holoween series that Fauna did.

[@ATRSSR]

The animation is basically the story of Ame 1336, leading to our current Ame 1337 "good" timeline.

[@DragonxFlutter]

So, this is my personal interpretation of the HoloEN lore (what little there is). I might have to alter it, assuming the rumored EN3 is legit, but this is what i have so far: --Council (sans Mumei) are the avatars of creation, the champions of the gods, tasked with ensuring that the universe runs smoothly and nothing messes with it. They were specifically made in the order of Sana, Fauna, Kronii, with Bae being the result of the natural need for opposite forces (so she's been around at least as long as Sana). --Calli's been around at least as long as Fauna or Kronii, as death is the natural result of life having run it's course. She's nearly as powerful as the Council, but ultimately cannot defy them. --Mumei specifically is an anomaly that was accepted into the Council by the gods as a later addition, in recognition of the potential of humanity; thus making her far younger than the rest of Council. --Kiara's lifespan at least traces back to the origin of the idea of the Phoenix as a mythological creature. How long that's been in terms of the Holoverse is unknown. --Gura is either a denizen of Atlantis that had to adapt to life under the sea, or was born post-sinking. She's oft described as "The Last Daughter of Atlantis", but I'm not sure if that should be considered a true statement, or even if that statement should be taken at face value. Let's just say that it's a mystery for Ame to solve. --The Ancient One may likely be a rogue agent that opposes the gods (the same ones that made Council), or even one of the gods themselves that decided "eff it, Imma become a bad guy" for whatever reason; and would like to enact the Bad Ending (as we see in the awesome animation), but it's only because of Ina that TAO is kept at bay; with the only manifestation of TAO's power being the relatively harmless Takodachis. --IRyS was sent by someone (be it Council, the gods, or even TAO) to the modern day to evaluate if humanity is worth saving or deserving of destruction. She's _supposed_ to be a non-partisan observer, but got won over to humanity's side because she likes singing and playing with humans. --Amelia, being the nosy type, found evidence of _AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALL_ of this, and decided to look into it deeper; possibly even infiltrating Kronii's domain to steal her signature watch. Alternatively, she could have been _gifted_ the watch by Kronii, who'd want to see what would happen if the timestream was made a bit more interesting (and possibly find a way to inadvertently use Ame as her agent among mortals). And her chronic hiccups are a side effect from the time-travel (I loved that detail of Mazu's anim and wanna keep it).

[@Harklein]

Now I'm curious how Crash Landing Studios would top this one... Their Detective Diaries is good as well but it's a totally different approach to Myth's lore... I wonder if they'll incorporate the time traveling arc of Ame into their animation.

[@FreinHowe]

I can lowkey see Ame as the fantasy chasing detective originally but stumbles upon the Time Clock during in one of her excursions. Basically the Crash Landing Studio version is the prequel of this one. Well, that's how I would like to link it up for continuity's sake.

[@maestrobash7822]

Fucking ridiculous that it's fan-made. The animation and the storyline are both better than what I would expect from professional studios. Insane. Would be a big dick move by Cover to hire these people and give them a team to produce Hololive movies.

[@Notaforumguy007]

honestly mazu has very amazing creative direction and attention to detail its wild, the emotions with short flash backs captures everything in couple seconds, ina crying and trying to say something to gura before they both get vaporized, its beyond impressive.

[@_ranko]

3:45 that's lore actually, "That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die" is a Cthulhu mythos reference

[@lucckyZ]

A "random" animator do the best use of time travel. Creating a timeline unrelated to the last one. Nothing will change for you and ur friends, but hopefully for another version of you. Hopefully. That's my FAVORITE time travel usage when it happens. Because It doesn't erase any consequences, it just gives hope to, maybe, 1 timeline.

[@Mr.Batsu12]

When Gura and Ina start fighting they show a flash back of them playing a video game and Ina says "Try a little harder and you might win". This is like a hint how they can break free of the time loop they are stuck in. At the end of the video it shows the date of September 13, 2022 when the world was wiped out. We are past that day showing that they finally did succeed and break free of the time loop.

[@xyketh0n]

I didn’t say anything cuz I knew everyone else would 😂

[@MugiwarasNakama]

In the Good timeline Myth was saved by Council. It's hinted at when you see the icons representing the council. It's brilliant.

[@MASTERSLY5]

Was Ame the single entity instead of Ina?

[@karactr8361]

Yes.

[@JakeTheBeastDelta]

The time that is seen on the film of the timeline when Ame enters that theater is what scientist believe is the age of the universe is.

[@ValhallaVT]

i just noticed the planet logo for our space guardian was glitching out because she's away

[@KiraAsakura14]

"Bam! KZbin link bitch!" Feels like some kind of OP superpower if crafted well.

[@iamwhatitorture6072]

One thing to note: In the credits of the animation you see SFX, music and a bunch of 3D assets, but the animation was literally all done by one guy, which is why it took 18 months.

[@ivanpetrov5255]

I've been waiting to see you react to this.

[@ivanpetrov5255]

Ina is so broken, in terms of power, that the only thing that can stop her, is Ina herself, and the only way to defeat her, was to reboot the universe. Mazumaro's animation and story are really top tier - great emphasis on some details, a lot of environmental storytelling (the notorious "show, don't tell" problem, that plagues many a movie).

[@jungmusohn5230]

My dnd brain keeps giving them classes lol Ina is a Warlock Calli is probably a minor god or demigod, Paladin of Death Kiara is just a Pheonix Gura is a Druid Ame is probably an Artificier You can see Ina's power being revoked when she struggles, probably going against the contract with her patron Calli and Kiara was probably mass teleported somewhere far Ame definitely found a divine level artifact or stole it from Kronii

[@mayadesuwaa]

At myth debut, i start thinking how rich their lore will be except ame, bcos the reference i catch from ame is dr watson from sherlock holmes story. But fanbase bringing her lore more interesting with adding a time traveler thing and ngl that was awesome. Goodjob fan

[@Draeckon]

Ame added the time travel aspect herself during a Q&A in her first week of streaming, I believe.

[@mayadesuwaa]

@@Draeckon glad to know that, i didn't really watch ame so my bad for not knowing that. Thanks for the correction

[@ChaosMind10531]

@@mayadesuwaa yet that was it all took... Just a simple and if I remember just a jokey answer to a random question became a basis to a whole new lore being built up...

[@abhmmh8892]

Mans really did the Reddit face in the thumbnail

[@flipper1785]

Anyone notice 'Hope' (i.e. Irys) pop through the clouds towards the end?

[@DrFujitsu]

Koefficient has no taste in art. "Same shit different toilet." This rubbed me the wrong way for only one incredible person making this. This piece is a rare one and deserves to be cherished.

[@samsolitaryroll]

Mazu said that the good ending is our timeline, then the only solution is for Ame to contact Yagoo?

[@ashchisalleh1454]

To reached yagoo, ame need shot down a purple dragon. Maybe become the 14th Sora knight.