Pegasus 38 - Second Run

[@sudstahgaming]

You know man is fit when he can talk while running vlogging for many miles!

[@tysonchicken9232]

It was an easy run…

[@stayontrack]

If you can't talk you're running your slow/easy aerobic runs too fast

[@thedon2005]

He’s jogging not running

[@stephenbellESQ]

I appreciate that you’re documenting the discomfort you’re feeling. I’m training for my first half marathon, and I ran in an older pair of ultraboosts and the Nike invincible just fine. But, when I got the Peg 38, after a mile or so my ankles and achilles started to really hurt. So I may have to return the Pegs, which is unfortunate because it’s such a nice looking and affordable shoe.

[@Matt_Kraczon]

Good luck with the marathon and with the rest of your 50k plan, looking strong!

[@thedon2005]

I have the Pegasus 38 and ran in them a couple of times..They are very comfortable and awesome running shoes.

[@almubeeb]

A comparison between your pair and a regular version sounds like an interesting test! It's always intriguing to hear these details about the underfoot sensation, the considerations you're having while running, and what that means for your feelings about the shoe Ko. Thanks for your work.

[@nevue_winding]

I’m back here still getting some versatile miles with my Peg36s. 👋

[@steevie76]

Mars Blackmon: “It’s gotta be da shoes!”

[@cantcatchm3m5]

I bought 37 NikeID when they were first released and regular on sale. The stock fit better, slightly less tight in the toe box. NID are just fine for casual wear, but don’t fit as comfy for working out.

[@danielponce89]

I agree with you that the Peg 37 and 38 create pressure points on the run with those air pods. It doesn't happen to me with any other shoe and it happens rapidly. It's not surprising for my foot considering my mostly flat feet but I don't think it's your feet, as much as the impact on your foot because of the shoe.

[@imaXkillXya]

The all black Pegasus 37 are $66 at the online Nike store.

[@marktolland9039]

Hi, I'm doing my training miles in the 37's for the last 3 months and absolutely love them. Stay safe everyone 🙏

[@jazzjingjing]

For runner who prefer cushion feel Pegasus (37 is more cushion feel than 36 for my feel), this is a steal :)

[@bernddasbrot2453]

I already have the Saucony Ride 13 as a Daily Trainer, but I have to say, the Pegasus 38, especially with that black-grey-goldish color scheme, look gorgeous!

[@cheekster777]

Have hit the pause button on picking up a pair of these until I hear Mike’s full follow-up review...

[@crisisvtl]

Been watching all your latest videos as my OG Infinity Flyknits are beat and needed an upgrade, I almost went with the Vomero 16 but due to price and fitment (mainly the lacing area) I went with the Peg 38. My last pair was the 31 and I loved those, hoping to enjoy getting back on the Pegasus chariot 😄 you’re videos are great! As a Chicagoan who now resides in the burbs, your Lake Michigan clips are fantastic and I plan on getting back there this summer 😎✌️

[@LetlotloLaBokoni]

I had a similar problem on my Peg 37’s on the first couple of runs. The very first run I was chaffed and bruised and my foot red. Needless to say now they work as advertised about 200km’s in

[@keyboardbw]

Hah! This video is exactly like my train of thoughts when I'm running and feeling 'something': is it the drop? Is it too soft? So I need to change my gait? Are the shoes worn out? Do I need to change my laces etc etc etc.

[@Carlosediaz543]

I 100 percent agree I got a peg 38 and I slightly pronate with lower arch’s. I’ve been doing Natural shoe pretty much all my life. I just went on a first run today with the peg 38 and had the exact same experiences I just think it’s to tight and doesn’t let me foot flex naturally. When I took my runners lace off & loosed the laces a bit it helps a lot. But yeah sometimes it felt great and sometimes I was feeling stiffness though the foot strike.

[@doubleespresso7872]

Thank you for this review! Will you consider reviewing the Puma Velocity Nitro at some stage? Some say best daily trainer so far this year, better than the Pegasus. Horses for courses but value your solid reviews so would be very interested in your opinion. Thanks a bunch!

[@히이로-h6n]

Nice run!🏃‍♂️

[@RyanBalmes]

Hey! thank you for sharing your experience - super unfortunate you've been feeling all this. I'm a physical therapist and running shoe nerd, and I suspect that the zoom air bag react foam combo may be to blame for where you're feeling the discomfort, specifically where the MTP joints are oriented inside the shoe. It's quite possible that maybe the zoom bag have bursted, now you're having a shearing effect as your roll through your midfoot to MTP joints. essentially a repetitive slide in what ever the direction the zoom bag wants to go. I know this video is relatively old in KZbin standards, but I hope you're foot is feeling better!

[@codyvecchio3576]

I picked up a pair of the peg 38’s about a week ago and the first two runs in them weren’t great at all. Hot spots and other minor pains but by the third run (10+ miles on the shoe) they felt a lot more broken in but I’m still having some minor issues with them. I’ve read from multiple people that they start to feel like great shoes around the 50-100 mile mark. I really want to love the shoe since it’s my first pair of Pegs ever so I’m going to keep using them til that 50 or so mileage. Have you heard anything similar? I heard the same about the peg 37s too but who knows. I did notice when I picked up the pace a bit more those minor issues went away in the shoe. Hoping 50 miles something changes and they become the best thing ever so we’ll see

[@scheddar2733]

I''ve had the same experience with the 37s, took about 30-40 miles and then all of a sudden they felt great. Now though, about 200 miles in I'm starting to feel heel issues, like it feels bruised, not sure what that's about but I have a newer pair of 37s and the heel issue persists, but I don't have the issue running in Cliftons or Altras, so something to watch out for.

[@francesbrito3811]

Thank you SO much for this review. I wore two pairs of the 37's and loved them. I recently switched to the 38's and began to experience some right foot pain. I also picked up some pegasus trail shoes around the same time so I thought it was those. Because why would it be the 38's when Nike said they didn't change anything underfoot? Long story short I switched in and out of a couple of shoes and pinpointed the problem to the 38's. What the heck?? I wouldn't have believed it if I didn't see this and would have thought I was just getting a foot injury!

[@Ilovetechnology72]

Wanted to ask you if you think is a big difference btwn pegs 37 and 38? I have a few pairs of the 37’s bc I absolutely love them!!

[@Ukeninam]

The Design by You definitely don’t have the same quality as the off the shelf ones. I got a flyease peg 38, the zippers were hard to zip/unzip and there are lose stitching all over the shoes.

[@shannonsides6017]

You are a committed Shoetuber to go out and buy a second pair of shoes that may have the same effect! I commend you! I’m wondering if it’s a combo of all the miles you’ve been putting in with much softer midsole options making the Pegs feel too firm relative to the others. Good luck and can’t wait to hear if it’s just a flukey customized pair.

[@JuniorB-Ytube]

First run in these and almost instant discomfort under the outside of my left foot. I agree that this shoe has a lot of potential though and there’s a lot to like about them. Will stick with them a bit longer, hopefully just need broken in.

[@riyanaldafa2411]

Hi keith, has it broken in? I wanna know because I'm using it for daily training and experienced the same feeling.

[@williamlunn-pigula7029]

I loved the peg 37, but didn't like all the changes they made to the peg 38 that everyone else seemed to love, I'm a serial contrarian.

[@jankaduraciiik]

I didnt end up getting the pegs 38,(even though i loved the 37) for pretty much the same reason...but after watching reviews from some people whose opinion I respect, I really wish I waited a bit longer to get these instead of the novablast

[@williamlunn-pigula7029]

@@jankaduraciiik not loving the novablast then? I went for some 1080s and they're great.

[@jankaduraciiik]

@@williamlunn-pigula7029 I like them, but they far from the pegs...I like the ride, there is just something about the upper...maybe should've gone a half size down..I liked the snug fit of the pegs quite a lot, cant get used to more room in these...in the same time, I have Asics trail shoes, where the fit pretty much the same, and I really like that on the trails 😅 I though about the 1080, but because because they are not thought to be as responsive/bouncy, I didnt end up getting them...Also, it's pretty difficult to find them around here...how are you liking them?

[@williamlunn-pigula7029]

@@jankaduraciiik i see, gotta say i love a bouncy midsole.

[@runnerup9786]

Sounds stupid perhaps, but do you think that after using more expensive/plush shoes, over time, your gait changes and you get used to different shoes? The Pegasus is quite old school now v say Invincible and Infinity's, Hokas, New Balance etc etc etc.

[@fauxtek]

Perhaps it's a manufacturing variation in the placement of the Zoom bag in the right shoe? In my 37s, the presence of the Zoom bag is more prevalent in my left shoe, even at step in, and it bugged me enough that I gave up on them for running.

[@jankaduraciiik]

In mine, I felt the same...the air pocket in the left one (or maybe the right) was much more apparent, but it didnt really bother me, didnt cause any discomfort

[@SamHawk1985]

I returned mine after 20 miles, caused forefoot pain and shoes felt heavy.

[@christoschmed]

had to do exactly the same, for the same reason

[@mattisss8191]

I have the same forefoot issues with my left Peg 38, it almost seems like my foot is slipping on that zoom air unit. Hope they do finally brake in nice and easy because other than that it’s a responsive enough daily trainer.

[@ahmetaksu2114]

Do you have any idea why he never reviews Asics Gel Kayano or Asics running shoes generally? Just curious.

[@nineteenninetyfive]

It seems to me that you are over thinking what you are feeling with these shoes. You can trust your senses and your experience. I think most people would chalk the shoe and never buy another pair of Nikes again if they had this experience but I guess in your position it will be interesting to see if the regular version of the shoe is any better with a direct comparison.

[@salmanrajput1501]

Can I use my pegasus 38 during rain and in post rain muddy condition? I do 10km light run. Just upgraded from Peg 36 used them in rain couple of times. Please advise. Thanks

[@kevinscott4938]

hmmm, If this didnt have a big swoosh on the side, would you work so hard to try and get it to work? and even buying a second pair?

[@kofuzi]

I think it’s less about the swoosh and more about the fact that I’ve run in this shoe for the last six years. In 2017, I think it’s the only shoe I ran in. I bought like three or four pairs of the regular and one pair of the shield. There’s history. The Altra torin 4.5 Plush and the shoe I tried from Enda did not get similar benefits of the doubt, but I do think I put about 40 or 50 miles in that Altra before I gave up. I suppose the question that I could turn back to you is, Was your comment actually a question? Or was it a veiled swipe at me?

[@kevinscott4938]

@@kofuzi No, not a swipe at all, apologies if it came across as that. Its probably just a general thing I see with Nike quite abit, that they can release shoes that abit "meh", but people still buy them regardless. I absolutely can not deny that Nike's "super shoes" have reined supreme for several years now and competitors are still trying to catch up. Suppose my thing is with Nike, as it "feels" like they are just not putting effort into making really good shoes(outside of super shoes) and being complacent because people will just buy them regardless.......hope that makes some sense....

[@giancarloespejo2223]

Feeling hot underfoot sometimes is caused by the insoles, try removing or changing the insoles if it is removable.

[@runningwithstelvio]

I ran with the Pegasus but with the previous version. I don't know I found it comfortable but nothing so exiting either. I used as a daily trainer and it was ok, but for speed workout I always preferred other shoes more snappy. I'm wondering if this new version could be fine for Tempo run

[@chestersampaga9272]

Would you still recommend the Pegasus line as the "go to, beginner, do it all" running shoe? If so, what version would you recommend? 36? 37? 38? Thanks a lot!

[@samuel99813]

Hi, question between these and noosa tri 13 which is better? I am 6 feet 230 lbs and do mostly weight training and treadmill runs, I mid to heel strike

[@kofuzi]

I don't have a lot of experience in the Noosa tri. But I believe it has a wider footprint than the Pegasus, which I think would be helpful for weight training

[@cgazlan]

Yeah you have 60 days to return it... In the meantime more testing... 💪🏻

[@robertivaniszyn840]

If you ever consider it, I would love to see your process for making these videos. How much footage do you shoot? How long does it take to process and edit?

[@kofuzi]

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[@robertivaniszyn840]

@@kofuzi omg, thanks so much. I'm a goof for assuming rather than looking first. Love your videos, always helpful motivation for my own training!

[@mattyosborne1453]

Would these be ok for the occasional trail run?

[@kofuzi]

depends on the trail, but yeah

[@sarahpantino5295]

does peg38 much better than peg37? i found peg37 too stiff for me. it gives me blisters and some foot pain even in quick-short 5km runs. ive been an avid fun of the pegasus line since peg33.

[@kofuzi]

I still need to more testing, but I would say that if you didn't like the 37, you probably will not like the 38

[@prod1gy305]

Since you plan to get the regular Pegasus’ what is your plan with your current pair?

[@sukeshsubaharan4324]

You are probably not getting 'em, Kent. 🤣

[@runfrankfurt]

There are so many great daily trainers out there right now. No need to waste time with a mediocre Pegasus 38. 🤷🏽‍♂️ Get a Puma Velocity Nitro instead…definitely a better option and superior to the Peg38. 😉

[@Formerly-known-as-Steve]

I’ve been designing custom 38’s cus I’m that bored being housebound .… 30% off the none custom is tempting but I’m going to stay strong and not buy…

[@kaishunider4110]

I think this is the first time for me seeing a video of second run from your channel.

[@kofuzi]

I tried giving the Altra Torin 4.5 a bunch of times. I just couldn’t get along with that one, but I don’t know that I made a specific video about the subsequent efforts

[@jimduggan8737]

what brand is that top? Looks familar.

[@yesazn]

Solarboost 3 please

[@tsubakichan]

Convert to lawnmower shoe?

[@kofuzi]

Summer is coming

[@runnerup9786]

All my old trainers become mowing shoes 🤣🤣🤣

[@dewknow1315]

What 50k are you doing?

[@kevincastro5509]

Is it lightweight ??

[@kofuzi]

It’s a good weight for its class

[@nizam_mr]

since your 50k is in 3+weeks time, i think you should postpone your following peg38 experiments. Kinda risky

[@ThatRunningGuy]

Anything lower than an 8mm drop and my Achilles are 😡

[@Chengreaction]

First!

[@kofuzi]

Yo!

[@bininshenzhen5176]

hi kofuzi, would you talk about the ultramarathon accident in china that killed 21 elite ultra runners?