How to create a WALL OF SOUND in the studio!

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Kohle Audio Kult

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German producer Kristian Kohle (Aborted, Powerwolf, Hämatom, Van Canto, Eskimo Callboy, Sinister) show how he blends different guitar tones in the studio to create a punishing and thick metal rhythm guitar tone!
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@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult 3 жыл бұрын
Which amps / speakers / cabs / rigs do you blend for creating huge tones?
@jensvide777
@jensvide777 3 жыл бұрын
Grindstein + Grindstein. Really, a thick middy tone and a really thin one works great.
@derived-doom
@derived-doom 3 жыл бұрын
I am using my Engl Fireball 25 together with a Rocktron mAXE. The mAxe for itself sounds "interesting", but it is the right tool to fill up a high gain valve sound. Since I am lazy, my 3+4 are actually one track mixed into two instances of Overloud THU with Rectifier profiles. At the end it is a hybrid setup: Valve, transistor and program code... For the cabs: Engl IRs (the official ones) and a real E110 cab mic'ed with a E609 and a MD421 (that is tricky, since it is a small speaker). I think the E110 adds everything a 4x12 can't provide... :-)
@potp5150
@potp5150 3 жыл бұрын
I have a bogner for scooped and randall for mids on my left channel and then a Mesa and a fender combo on my right channel. Used rainbows and chainsaws irs largely the dv77. Absolutely stoked on the sounds we are getting. About to head back to the studio and use everything from the get go rather than just in post.
@ssmstudio1476
@ssmstudio1476 3 жыл бұрын
Like this? I use yours pedal and ir's kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZ3dl3ttg96Xmq8
@slavesforging5361
@slavesforging5361 3 жыл бұрын
perfect video. I use a 3 Channel Triple Rectifier for the main body, Carvin V3 for crispy highs, and a Panama Inferno as an alternate if i need a bit more mellowed/Cultured sound. sometimes i will lightly augment these with high gain plugins sitting just underneath everything. i'd love to get a Vox nightrain to use as a nasty/trash guitar tone to blend in, but there are many things that come first on my studio 'to-get' list right now.
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastisch! Great information Kristian! This reminds me of what Dave Jerden would do with Alice In Chains! Love being able to hear such high level stuff here explained so well!
@Producelikeapro
@Producelikeapro 2 жыл бұрын
@@dfgvjnkjdsnbkjsbdvjkhdsb hello!
@FedericoMatarazzo
@FedericoMatarazzo 3 жыл бұрын
videos like this are just GOLD. For a newbie trying to learn home recording, this is precious stuff.
@JediCrackSmoke
@JediCrackSmoke 3 жыл бұрын
You're precious.
@pianoatthirty
@pianoatthirty 3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit this is so helpful. Thank you for doing this with plugins. Helps out all of us who will never buy/don’t have the space for real amps.
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult 3 жыл бұрын
It’s the same approach in the end!
@pianoatthirty
@pianoatthirty 3 жыл бұрын
What I love the most and never really thought about until you said it in this video - take ONE IR... ONE single IR, not two, ONE, and go through all your amps with it. That way you can learn the tonal characteristics of each amp. Brilliant. Sounds simple but it’s one of those things you don’t really consider when getting started in the endless world of amps. Vielen Dank!
@mr.mikehunt4286
@mr.mikehunt4286 2 жыл бұрын
seriously? you never heard of Judas Priest?
@tomarlinghaus7330
@tomarlinghaus7330 3 жыл бұрын
Just watched the first 5 minutes and I'm instantly motivated to play around finding great guitar tones!
@xsonicassassinx
@xsonicassassinx 3 жыл бұрын
a tip on the nolly 5150. the master volume knob does SO much to the midrange. between 3 and 4 is a huge change. anything over 5 gets mushy, and 4 sounds way better. it took me SO long to try that.
@acommon
@acommon 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds amazing! I'd like to hear more about that great bass tone.
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult 3 жыл бұрын
That was a Spector bass! I need to look up what I did with it.
@marcpeiron_studio
@marcpeiron_studio 3 жыл бұрын
@@KohleAudioKult Yes please, that was a big bass!
@BrianMagnan
@BrianMagnan 2 жыл бұрын
I love your videos. I feel like I never find good professional videos about blending amp tones. They’re few and far between.
@HxHippy
@HxHippy 3 жыл бұрын
3 minutes into the first video of this channel got the easy sub, dude this is an excellent simplification of an overly complicated subject. This is where art meets science in audio engineering. Great explanation on tone building. 🤘👽💨
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot and welcome to the channel!
@IllusionaryFuneral
@IllusionaryFuneral 3 жыл бұрын
I used your Eminence IR pack to record the guitars on my upcoming EP, and even without mixing the tracks, it sounds so brutal!
@ractorstudios
@ractorstudios 3 жыл бұрын
This is a great video. Not many people even talk about it. Its so important
@HSithis
@HSithis Жыл бұрын
Kohle Ramsay sitting in his studio "hmm, this needs a bit of mids, a splash of dängel and maby a side of chainsaw" love it
@metatron333ascension
@metatron333ascension 3 жыл бұрын
this was amazing. content is pure gold. would love more on how to do the blends in a creative way.
@awonderingoneil206
@awonderingoneil206 3 жыл бұрын
Invaluable knowledge here, just started studying Music technology at University, can't wait to make some proper beefy sounds in the studio. Cheers Kristian.
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult 3 жыл бұрын
Great! Don't forget to join the Kohle Audio Kult! On my discord channel, you'll meet a lot of cool people to nerd out! discord.com/invite/A8CpzfGJ5q
@nicholasfontaine8224
@nicholasfontaine8224 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I just did this actually, with Nolly for the mids and highs, and Fortin Nameless for the sludgy lows, both using a Mesa 4x12 IR. Worked great! Thanks for the great content Kristian! 🤘
@666tonsofsquirrels
@666tonsofsquirrels 3 жыл бұрын
I can only recommend the IR pack. It’s sick, and so we’re these tones. 🔥🔥🔥
@blakjack3053
@blakjack3053 2 жыл бұрын
I've run 2 tube amps (amps I've owned or borrowed) on stage on various times throughout my life as a gigging guitar player; Fender+Marshall, Vox+plus Marshall, Mesa+Peavey etc. and I've found that for the music I play, which is mostly classic and hard rock, the Marshall 2203 paired with the Mesa Dual rectifier both plugged into a Marshall 412 stereo cab sounded the most monstrous I think because of the Marshall's classic midrange roar and the brutal high gain focused lows and highs of the Dual rectifier.
@albertplaysguitar
@albertplaysguitar 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, you had me at the opening breakdown. *first time viewer proceeds to subscribe*
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult 3 жыл бұрын
That’s the spirit! 🤪❤️🍺
@AndrienQ
@AndrienQ 3 жыл бұрын
I have your Eminence IR pack, and I'm thoroughly pleased with it - they're almost my go-to
@matthewfoster9816
@matthewfoster9816 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic stuff again, Kohlekeller! I've always wondered how bands managed to sound so huge; quad tracking seems to be the way to do it! I remember Fit For An Autopsy's "Hellbound" EP being the first one where I though "oh my god, I *have* to get this guitar tone!" it was so damn massive. Can't wait to try out some of this stuff on my own.
@eranfalek
@eranfalek 3 жыл бұрын
I just learned a lot! I will definitely try to do this in the near future! Keep the educational stuff coming. It's great! Thanks.
@nickdaniels1321
@nickdaniels1321 3 жыл бұрын
Bought the Grindstein plugin after watching this video. I can already say it's worth every penny, ESPECIALLY on sale. Well done.
@nitraus666
@nitraus666 3 жыл бұрын
Did something similar starting with Orange Dual Dark + Jensen Electric Lighning + Sennheiser e906; we needed some more mids so I added a Jcm 800 + vintage 15" speaker + Beyerdynamic m201. Sweet combo!
@Sphereal
@Sphereal 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who struggles to get good riff tones at home, this video is a great find. Thanks!
@andrewjacobs5579
@andrewjacobs5579 3 жыл бұрын
I've been having pair B be hard Right & 60-75% Left (pair A hard R & L). That 1 track not hard left gives me space for solos & leads & when I blend it right it sounds 'exactly' how I hear it while playing from my drumkit.
@luminousbrilliance1711
@luminousbrilliance1711 3 жыл бұрын
Clever. Very Interesting! Album Rock Forever! Thanks Man!
@nbguitar
@nbguitar 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, was already aware of these techniques and approaches but an in depth perspective is always welcome. Cool stuff.
@reprisalwithin666
@reprisalwithin666 3 жыл бұрын
"I want this to sound cold and brutal. I do not want this to sound nice." 2 minutes later: "Ah, nice! ....Oh that's nice! ...that sounds very nice!" As for my own blend, the coolest blend I've got in the physical world was running a Line 6 Spidervalve 3 (bogner) with tone dialed mimicking a Kataklysm type tone through a Marshall Jcm 800. Not the biggest Line 6 fan but that one amp is good and with the preamp run through a Jcm full stack - Holy heaviness!
@thevibromatic4619
@thevibromatic4619 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Kristian, one more time a very inspiring video! Especially the possibility to go two different ways of style is very nice. That's why I like your Guitar Tone Crafting Course very much!! Thank you a lot for this nice videos and for sharing your knowledge with us! Best regards from Anterior Palatinate!! Stefan
@Geekin_up
@Geekin_up 3 жыл бұрын
i like how the guitar tone gets deeper into the mix with quad tracking!
@shredward666
@shredward666 2 жыл бұрын
The guitar tone you captured on Benighted's 'Asylum Cave' is one of the best I've heard. Great job on that 🤘
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult 2 жыл бұрын
It’s been a while, but thanks a lot! Same principle like in this video.
@hectorvegasduque2234
@hectorvegasduque2234 2 жыл бұрын
Best benighted record so fucking underrated and yes the tone is amazing but some of their latest stuff has even better production
3 жыл бұрын
Im working on my band's next studio album, i was doing quadtracking with the same amp just swaping the IR, 100 70 70 100, the 100 with a brighter and low end speaker and the 70 with more "dark" sound to get a nice tone, but now, i just changed the 70 amp by another one with a different speaker and it sound waaay better than before, thanks for this vid! you're been helping me through these last years with the music production Kristian. By the way im using your Eminence IR Pack, thanks for that too!
@carwynvan
@carwynvan 3 жыл бұрын
"unk unk chugga chugga" Finally someone speaking a way I understand! 😂
@txuslozano2161
@txuslozano2161 10 ай бұрын
Nice video! Without a doubt, I am clear that hundreds of records have been made using this technique and you also explain it very well with a practical example. greetings
@ItsNotaTuhmah
@ItsNotaTuhmah 3 жыл бұрын
I will just say this: that Fleisch eq is wonderful on its own. I even use the Grindstein with only the EQ and gate activated when I don't need the chainsaw on certain guitar tracks to polish them.
@alzhul6938
@alzhul6938 3 жыл бұрын
I do that too, the Fleisch is bad ass, and they are working on an actual pedal, so that will be awesome!
@TheRealWanderingMan
@TheRealWanderingMan 3 жыл бұрын
The best blended tone I've ever heard is from Toxicity. I have never heard a tone like it ever, very droning, clean, and overall an amazing idea from Malakian.
@marcpeiron_studio
@marcpeiron_studio 3 жыл бұрын
Cool video! 5150+Orange was my favorite combination. Your IR sound great!
@FelipeGruberTV
@FelipeGruberTV 3 жыл бұрын
That Grindstein is pure evil, I'm using it everywhere since I got it!! Awesome vid bro, cheers!
@Kernoelgrinder
@Kernoelgrinder 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this epic tutorial. The Grindstein is simply "Weltklasse"!
@infinaneek
@infinaneek Жыл бұрын
Great video!! Weird how that rockerverb was so chill.
@stephenbartlett6402
@stephenbartlett6402 2 жыл бұрын
what I've been doing for 12- 13 years now is a marshall DSL or TSL with a mesa Dual rectifier (or mark series amp). Blends the EL34s and 6L6s and differences in eq stacks. The same would be awesome with Marshall JVM and mesa Mark V combinations. You have to plan the tandem wisely to truly benefit.
@benjamon4922
@benjamon4922 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice vid, very helpful! Love that band Carnal Decay as well, need to check them out!!
@marcblum5348
@marcblum5348 3 жыл бұрын
This is a very well teached lesson in sound sculpturing. Thumbs up!
@BrimstoneButcher
@BrimstoneButcher 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been blending the Grindstein with the new “II II II II” amp sim from Otto Audio. Sounds amazing. Also, I’ve been using the Grindstein on my bass tracks as well. The bass tone sounds like an angry homeless drunk throwing up in an abandoned alleyway full of meth needles, but it blends amazingly well with the guitars. Have an awesome week buddy 🤘🎸
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult 3 жыл бұрын
Can I quote you on the bass tone? 🤣 Beautiful description!
@BrimstoneButcher
@BrimstoneButcher 3 жыл бұрын
@@KohleAudioKult of course you can!
@firdeye2681
@firdeye2681 3 жыл бұрын
This was interesting to see how you shape a guitar tone very very nice. Kohle rules!
@chiefindisguise
@chiefindisguise 3 жыл бұрын
Something i noticed is the grindstein version sounds a lot like when you distort the bass guitar (a dedicated bass distortion channel). That nasty clanky/nasally/vomity grindstein distortion really melds well with the bass guitar, it marries the 5051 guitar tracks with the bass guitar track, i didn't get that sensation with the orange layer that sound just beefed the main guitar sound (that's the way i perceived it).
@groopuskul
@groopuskul 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, Kristian, I wanted to thank you for selling me this IRs pack. It is honnestly way better than everything i had previously used and try (wich is a lot!). Finally, i have a tone that I enjoy to work with. Bravo!
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot man! I'm actually surprised how much bs is out there. Both IRs and plug ins.
@sqlb3rn
@sqlb3rn 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't recorded it but my live stereo guitar rig is Mesa Mark V into Schecter 4x12 with V30s, and EVH 5153 Stealth into matching cab. I think the Mark V has really great clarity and tone, I can hear every note... and the 5153 Stealth adds a modern compressed distortion. I also have a 6505+ and Red Voodoo 4x12 with EU V30s that I used to record with. And the guitarists in my band both have Dual Rectifiers, one of them with matching 4x12 slant Rectifier cab.
@jimbeaux4988
@jimbeaux4988 3 жыл бұрын
So good! I love blending quad tracks. I get a lot of mileage by switching up the IRs and changing the amount of distortion on the amp.
@seangherardi
@seangherardi 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kohle! After watching this video and applying these techniques I am much closer to the sound in my head.
@alrecks619
@alrecks619 2 жыл бұрын
what i learned is that blending one amp with mo' tite pre distortion and the other with mo' loosey power distortion and automate them depending on the guitar parts works for me well lol, but when in doubt, just throw a fuzzy distortion unit on the quad track.
@miserypath
@miserypath 3 жыл бұрын
Great! That is exactly what I tried to do with the Grindstein in my latest recordings! And I did it with the tone matrix which I knew from the course :-) Although I had some trouble using an amp signal and the DI track so I used the amp singnal in the FX loop of the Grindstein which also works great! Thnanks for this good example!!! P.S.: DHL broke two bottles and sent me back the package. So I have to repack everything and get it on the way again.
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult 3 жыл бұрын
Oh noooo! 🙄
@sqlb3rn
@sqlb3rn 3 жыл бұрын
that blend with the grindstein mid distortion sounds fuckin sweet
@davecopeland5480
@davecopeland5480 Жыл бұрын
That was great. I don't usually turn up the volume on my ear buds while watching a KZbin video.
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult Жыл бұрын
Welcome!
@jroc6166
@jroc6166 2 жыл бұрын
I really like to blend the best of both worlds. Lately I have been using Tube Amps with the Two notes captorX. Really enjoy the versatility of using the Wall of Sound inside Reaper and the ability to mix, match, and blend the two notes cabs with several different mics alongside outside Cab IR's.
@hlrossato
@hlrossato 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video again! To me, the Orange + 5150 sounds really great! I can't wait and try to reproduce that same combination with my Orange Rockerverb + AmbHub 5153. It should work :)
@littledoggiedeathmetal
@littledoggiedeathmetal 3 жыл бұрын
I love your Bogren IR's especially with the Oh My Goat
@Dave_TheMetalJester
@Dave_TheMetalJester 3 жыл бұрын
Man I freaking love your content and more importantly how you teach and transmit the knoweledge you have to others. Crystal clear, amusing... I'd LOVE to drink a beer and Talk with you!!
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Beer sounds good! 🤪❤️🍺
@Dave_TheMetalJester
@Dave_TheMetalJester 3 жыл бұрын
@@KohleAudioKult btw used this philosophy to pull out the Clayman tone. Main tone IS a 5150 with an OD (not a TS) Fredman technique and the secondary one a ValveState mixed Between 5 or 6 dB below. Awesome tone
@quentinmarbouty9960
@quentinmarbouty9960 2 жыл бұрын
"am i trying to sell you this thing ? yes i am! this is fantastic !" a comedic genius XD
@TheSPY1997
@TheSPY1997 3 жыл бұрын
I vote yes on the Amplitube video. I'd love to see some of your presets
@paulmichael-Kixxy
@paulmichael-Kixxy 2 жыл бұрын
Just discovered your channel and have spent the weekend "Grinding" 🤔 through your videos. Absolutely loving your content. So many great tips. Thanks man.
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome! I'm launching my academy in October! That will be even more grinding fun!
@paulmichael-Kixxy
@paulmichael-Kixxy 2 жыл бұрын
@@KohleAudioKult oh wow. That's awesome. Can't wait.
@gokhan9395
@gokhan9395 2 жыл бұрын
That leather couch in the back is the best spot in the studio 😭😭😭
@DonnieDistortion
@DonnieDistortion 3 жыл бұрын
Very well explained. And you can automate the "mids" tracks to be slightly louder during verses and outros for added intensity.
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult 3 жыл бұрын
I actually cut out a part where I said exactly the same thing! 😅
@ronswary
@ronswary Жыл бұрын
I do something similar with my cabs .. use a blend of a 4x12 Randall and a Fender twin reverb. Killer .
@matthewcole9482
@matthewcole9482 3 жыл бұрын
An Amplitube 5 video would be great! I’ve struggled for a bit getting a good metal tone and a walkthrough would help tremendously. Great channel, man!
@bfunkadelicmusic
@bfunkadelicmusic 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of times I’ll use an ABY pedal, dual track my guitars but use two amps per side. Usually on the left I’ll run a JCM 2000 DSL50 and a JP2C and on the right a 6505 and a Deliverance II. If there’s anything missing, then I’ll look at a plug-in on the DI tracks.
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds good! Just be very careful about the phase if you send the same performance to several rigs
@DownDeepFishing
@DownDeepFishing 7 ай бұрын
I've recently done this with two tube amps and it's freaking killer man huge sound and under $1400 dollars doing it. Bad ass
@jeromegehrlein1765
@jeromegehrlein1765 3 жыл бұрын
This one is great! It's actually the very first video of you, Kristian, where I fully agree and totally feel you. For me and my band, I'm doing it the other way around. God damn nasty ass HM-2 tones that need to be filled in the lower mids gap!
@lucyfuir6386
@lucyfuir6386 3 жыл бұрын
after seeing clutch live in 2004 I noticed Tim salt used a Marshall half stack with a Fender twin. I had a Marshall 602 combo And a Fender Princeton, So I sent the pwr amp out of the Marshall into the Princeton WOW what a sound. I highly recommended it
@louistremblay1218
@louistremblay1218 3 жыл бұрын
im a big fan of the Archetype nolly, and i mostly play/record very low tuned 7 string stuff, and sometimes what i really like to bring out some presence, without blending with another amp is a saturation plugin called Saturn, you can basicaly apply any kind of distortion, saturation or just tape warmth to a certain frequency, i would definelty recommend trying the 700hz to 1k area !
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult 3 жыл бұрын
Saturn can be great! I agree.
@ryanwise2556
@ryanwise2556 2 жыл бұрын
I use a Diezel VHX multiple channels. 1 with a Les Paul modern and 1 with a 58 Les paul custom reissue. Monster tone
@attilahavasi6987
@attilahavasi6987 3 жыл бұрын
Youre a metal wizard Kohle. im headbanging in front of my pc
@djdanger9812
@djdanger9812 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Kristian can you please show us how to fix phase cancelation when blending different tones when using the same DI tracks for the different tones. Maybe a review on some good plugins that address the problem would be awesome. So cool when you do these tone blending vids dude no one else seems to mess with it, always learning from you brother keep em coming!
@rolfrolf9176
@rolfrolf9176 3 жыл бұрын
Engl Thunder 50 + Randall Diavlo 100 ergänzen sich mega gut, der Engl ist mega rauh und untight (ohne Tube Screamer oder so) und der Randall mega komprimiert und klingt sehr glatt. Klingt zusammen einfach richtig gut
@twitchgrass3849
@twitchgrass3849 27 күн бұрын
So helpful Thanks!!!
@KelticKabukiGirl
@KelticKabukiGirl 3 жыл бұрын
My Amp rig is an Orange Rockerverb MKII (Better clean channel, mid control!) 3/4 stack with a 2x12 of 150W Swamp Thangs in an orange tolex Live 220 cab, an Orange PPC2412 new with V30s I use as a pedal Platform, a Behringer Ultrabass 300W and 1x18 -300W Peavy Bass Speaker also in the pedal line, then another weird hybrid 3/4 stack. Its and Egnater Tourmaster 100wTube combo 2x12 with low end enhanced 80W Celestian SL styles, this rig is my dirty dry rig for heavy articulation, an Orange Micro Dark preamp going into the Egnater Front end (still picking a channel) and use that amp to power a 94 Tweed Tubeworks 4x12 with Eminence Blank 80W and then an Orange Dark Terror powering the Egnater's 2x12 combo cab. its a weird 115W 3/4 Stack Dark Terror essentially. I run about 70 pedals into the front of the RV and Ultrabass, Dark Terror 3/4 stays dry. Donner makes a nice ABY box with LED mini volume knobs and a phase correction switch for $20!
@heatnationwpb
@heatnationwpb 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad to see this topic pop up! I generally pan a Dual Rectifier on one side vs the Orange Thunderverb... Those two create one helluva tone that sits really well in my mixes. The Thunderverb takes a little tweaking, but with proper mic choice & placement it clarifies into a thick, meaty rhythm chug without getting too "muddy". The TVerb has a LOT of low end, but I find that using a Bottle mic, paired with a more traditional condenser mic, breathes life into the Thunderverb, bringing out some of the crispness that I found it to be lacking. It's a BEAST - especially when panned vs something a little crisper like the Dual Rec. This pair is f'ing MAGICAL for old-school metal tones! I don't really fk with super-low tunings much, so I really can't speak on using these two together for more "modern" metal / djent styles. But for late 80's / 90's thrash metal tones, or even just hard rock if I roll back some of the gain a little, they sound absolutely killer together! 🤘 Now, admittedly I'm referring to the modeled versions due to cost... have you seen what a physical Orange Thunderverb 200 head sells for?!! 😮 But with some decent software like Amplitube 5 they NAILED Mesa Boogie tones imo, and they did a really decent job with the Orange package as well as far as I can tell. I don't have much experience with an actual real life Thunderverb, but I did own a Dual Rectifier (as well as a Trip Rec) years back, and ikmedia really did a great job recreating the Mesa Boogie tones imo. But however you're approaching it you just can't go wrong with these two titans together! 🤘
@heatnationwpb
@heatnationwpb 3 жыл бұрын
Now, having completed the video, I'm going to try experimenting with adding in a few more tones as suggested. Maybe something a little more "fizzy" like a Soldano Slo 100, or an ENGL. The possibilities are literally endless. So thanks for this video mate! This is the best high-gain tutorial vid I've watched in quite some time! It really got me excited to try expanding on the two-head tone I've been using for a while now. I've occasionally swapped out the Dual Rec with a Mark IV, or the Fender Metalhead, but I've never attempted to blend more than two different tones together. I mean, I've double-tracked the same tones of course for a natural chorus(ish) effect, which I've found helpful to sort of fill out my tone on particular tracks, but that's about it. So your vid really has gotten my creative juices flowing and I can't wait to put your advice into practice when I sit down at the desk tonight. Cheers!! 💯
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult 3 жыл бұрын
Mesa / Orange is always a great combination! I need to check out the big Thunderberb. Which Bottle are you using?
@heatnationwpb
@heatnationwpb 2 жыл бұрын
@@KohleAudioKult sorry for the delay brother. I'm using the bottle 563 (based on a Neumann CMV-563) paired with a Dynamic 57 on the TVerb200 (I had stated above that I was pairing the bottle with another condenser mic, but I was mistaken - it is actually the dynamic 57 that I landed on in the end). It was a happy accident that just seemed to help me get what I was looking for out of the Thunderverb, and sounded even better when I put it into the mix with the Rectifier, which surprised me. Funny side note, this actually sounds a little better to me when using Amplitube iOS 🤷‍♂️. Go figure. But I've been using the same pair on the Mac with similar results. I just watched another vid of yours on understanding and dialing in high gain tones, and I liked how much you were encouraging experimentation. I generally wouldn't have thought too use the Bottle 563, but I was f'ing around and stumbled across it. I moved it back a wee bit from the cab and suddenly it just came alive for me. Same with cabs recently - I decided to try a few different cabinets with the Dual Rectifier recently out of boredom and discovered that I really prefer Amplitube's "4x12 Metal T 1" cab with the Dual Rec when using the Dual Rec on it's own (on Amplitube 5 anyway - I LOVE the Mesa 4x12 cabs irl). So my point, if anyone else actually reads all of this, is to experiment like crazy... especially considering all of the great, inexpensive modeling software out there. That $5 mic add-on ended up leading me to the exact tone that I needed in that moment. Thx for responding man! Hope you find something helpful here. Keep up the great vids!🤘
@heatnationwpb
@heatnationwpb 2 жыл бұрын
Also, when it comes to the TV200 I actually prefer Channel B - "Shape" on 8 / Gain on about 7... it's a very strange amp - Ch1 has basic treb/mid/bass eq, but Ch2 only has a weird "Shape" knob instead
@JimijaymesProductions
@JimijaymesProductions 3 жыл бұрын
I have to say that rockerverb tone sounded better than expected for Amplitube especially for that function of fat and warm mids.
@blackspine343
@blackspine343 3 жыл бұрын
I combine amps on Amplitube. One is a high gain, scooped modern mesa type tone... the other is Marshall with low gain but cranked mids. It sounds fucking awesome.
@jacksonunruh5076
@jacksonunruh5076 3 жыл бұрын
thank you so much ! i was having this same problem where i couldint get a wide sound. thanks
@RobKingRC
@RobKingRC 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been really digging the Gojira amp sim!
@BalashToth
@BalashToth 3 жыл бұрын
It's a fucking amazing video. One if the best I've ever seen in guitar tone topic. Very well done. Really, hats off 🤘
@adamphillips6747
@adamphillips6747 3 жыл бұрын
I am all in the box since I am in an apartment but I use the UA BE100 with the English 412 (49) and the UA Engle Savage 120 with the American 412 (19) both with a TS9 in front of it and get huge tones.
@jensvide777
@jensvide777 3 жыл бұрын
Amplitube's Orange suite is very undergained and dark for some reason. Anyways, great video. It's always nice to hear the mindset of experienced producers.
@toemasmeems
@toemasmeems 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Kohle! I've been MIA from your channel because of university but damnit now it's like having a season to binge watch ;) Stay metal brotha
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back! You must have been in a very lonely and dark place. It’s kinda hard to escape KZbin 😜
@toemasmeems
@toemasmeems 2 жыл бұрын
@@KohleAudioKult Wow you're a psychic! LOL
@LykaonMetalMusic
@LykaonMetalMusic 3 жыл бұрын
The Nolly Plugin was not my fav plugin cause i cant stand anymore 5150! But i never tried it with your IRs! I blended the GGD Cali Cabs with yours from Rainbow & Chainsaw.....SICK! Your are just one of the best for Metal! Thanks for your work and this video!
@pbasswil
@pbasswil 2 жыл бұрын
Now we need a tut on how to create open, uncrowded mixes that lift the claustrophobia you've induced!
@rzezniastudio9631
@rzezniastudio9631 Жыл бұрын
"5150 sounds a bit lonely - especially on the single notes" - man, you really get it xD
@EndlessMeece
@EndlessMeece 3 жыл бұрын
"Should you do an Amplitube 5 video?" Yes, please! I'd love to see how you handle that. Although, I confess, I haven't opened the plugin even once since purchasing some Neural plugins and some specific IRs (1 Celestion pack and, of course, Rainbows and Chainsaws). I'd still love to see you work through Amplitube 5. Honest and potentially total noob question: Can you describe a little bit what you mean when you say "creamy" with regard to the tone? I just wanna understand exactly what you mean when you use the term.
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Creamy means a rather compressed and “slow” distortion paired with a rather warm frequency response.
@ItsNotaTuhmah
@ItsNotaTuhmah 3 жыл бұрын
I personally use Amplitube 5 as "aux" tone source. I don't like any amp in solo from it, but to complement other tones it works really well.
@EndlessMeece
@EndlessMeece 3 жыл бұрын
@@KohleAudioKult Excellent, thank you, Good Sir. You are a superb instructor and your contribution to my comprehension of all this is immeasurable.
@tobins6800
@tobins6800 3 жыл бұрын
I did something similar last night for bass tone on mx5. Ran an Ampeg style amp with all lows and fair amount of mids clean and split the amp. The other amp I added was a Marshall 100 style amp with pretty much all the lows removed. Nasty fuckin sound. Then blended the 2, Marshall a little lower, for a brutal ass bass sound. Low end balls with enough rasp to cut down a forest.
@rodrigosallesguitar
@rodrigosallesguitar 3 жыл бұрын
Briliant video, man! I'm always learning so much and having a damn lot of fun. And yeah.. a video about Amplitube 5 should be interesting. It usually gets a lot of hate, but I bet you can make it put out some cool noise, hahah!
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult 3 жыл бұрын
So far I was pleasantly surprised by Amplitube 5
@anMechSea
@anMechSea 3 жыл бұрын
I actually have a synth sound I made specifically for a similar technique to what you're talking about. It's this weird lo-fi thing that sounds kind of terrible on its own, but when layered under the guitar it both fills out and adds an edge to the sound without being noticeable if you don't know it's there
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds interesting!
@nicolasmaserov7146
@nicolasmaserov7146 Жыл бұрын
A great video, as always. Amazing sound, and a really clear and fantastic explanation. You really make things go easier. Thank you very much
@austinhein239
@austinhein239 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I did nearly exactly this a couple weeks ago. Recorded a metal band that wanted to track with the Gojira plugin. Got a nice bright aggressive tone. But, I felt it was lacking, and considering the band plays oranges live, I decided to get a thick tone with my rockerverb and couldn’t ask for a better combo
@CakeorDeath1989
@CakeorDeath1989 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I don't even play heavy music but I can tell you this video makes me want to try blending a Fender Tweed or Blackface with a VOX AC30.
@oleskiyashko2901
@oleskiyashko2901 3 жыл бұрын
You are the best sound producer in the world! Thanks. I start understand something 💪
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult 3 жыл бұрын
Make sure to sign up to my email list and to join us on discord!
@oleskiyashko2901
@oleskiyashko2901 3 жыл бұрын
@@KohleAudioKult yes, sir!
@PucaDuca13
@PucaDuca13 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like you're trying to sell me something! 🤣🤣 great video a load to take in here, thank you!
@billyhughes9776
@billyhughes9776 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously fantastic video Kristian -- love it. Thanks so much for sharing.
@adampoyser9631
@adampoyser9631 7 ай бұрын
This video is pure 🔥to this very day
@PseudoPulse
@PseudoPulse 2 жыл бұрын
This is such a great tutorial bro! Thanks for all of the tips
@halfbrokerising
@halfbrokerising 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and yes I think you should totally do an Amplitube 5 video. I like it a lot. So much better than any other release of it and would love to see you do a video on some tones you get and with what.
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