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Koio vs. Common Projects: Which Is Better? | Best White Leather Sneakers Menswear Review

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@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
My reaction to the Rose Anvil Common Projects video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJPVloiJe86XnpY
@DOGUKANZOR
@DOGUKANZOR 4 жыл бұрын
which brand your sweatshirt i Like it
@stronguser5242
@stronguser5242 4 жыл бұрын
Rose Anvil bought a pair of Common Projects without understanding their aesthetics and design. White achilles low would look so much worse with veg tanned leather. I think people needs to understand what's the difference between chrome and veg tan leather before claiming that CPs should use veg tanned leather.
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
@@DOGUKANZOR converse
@NemTeam
@NemTeam 4 жыл бұрын
@@stronguser5242 Rose Anvil did not say that CP was not a good quality shoe...he simply said that it’s over priced for the type of leather used. When compared to other brands like KOIO....he proved that CP’s should cost less.
@ecoyt1
@ecoyt1 4 жыл бұрын
I went with the Koio Capri triple white after watching many comparison videos. I just didn’t feel like the common projects were worth the price. I’m happy with my decision.
@Tenthplanetjj86
@Tenthplanetjj86 Жыл бұрын
Koio capris are $295 and CPs are $323 at Harrods. Couldn’t justify spending an extra $28? ☺️
@brandonroberts-blake4223
@brandonroberts-blake4223 4 жыл бұрын
I made a post on reddit comparing these sneakers the other day. Every point you made I also made. You are spot on with this comparison. This is the best comparison video to date on KZbin.
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you. Another video dropping tomorrow that might interest you.
@Aries0098
@Aries0098 26 күн бұрын
Lol, no.
@DrRolexPhD
@DrRolexPhD 4 жыл бұрын
My two cents: I own both of these shoes. I bought the Koios first, but I wasn't completely satisfied knowing I ALMOST got the best. I got the cps about a month later. Another major reason I got the cp's is that the Koios were KILLING my heel. After some time, it got better, but never completely went away. The cp's had a similar problem, but they ARE slightly narrower, which hugs my foot better and prevents the heel-slippage better. Ultimately however, both of these shoes, in pursuit of that "clean /minimal aesthetic", have low-cut heels, which WILL give you discomfort for the first several wears. I'm writing all this to hopefully warn people that they may be disappointed with their investment at first, and the heel discomfort is definitely something to consider before buying. Thank you He Spoke Style for the great video.
@terrorsquadlith
@terrorsquadlith 4 жыл бұрын
so basically shit shoes lol. I wore 20$ shoes and those never hurt haha
@maxloyd9682
@maxloyd9682 4 жыл бұрын
Do either shoes hurt your toes because they are narrow ?
@DrRolexPhD
@DrRolexPhD 4 жыл бұрын
@@maxloyd9682 no, I've never had a problem in the toe area, just the heel rubbing.
@jayzhang14
@jayzhang14 2 жыл бұрын
leather made shoes are not as comfortable as Nike Airmax, it doesn’t matter what brand, leather is naturally more stiff than fabric.
@yungwildandfreee8253
@yungwildandfreee8253 3 жыл бұрын
My cousin recommended these shoes and he said they’re great so I went and copped me a pair for $260! Now I can’t wait to wear them
@rb3782
@rb3782 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve owned both. TBH, when I picked up my first pair of Koios, it made the CPs irrelevant to me. I found the Koios more comfortable and on the same level of style and finish. To buy the CPs after trying Koios would just be an insult to my own intelligence.
@armanthanviruddin6514
@armanthanviruddin6514 4 жыл бұрын
I just purchased my first pair of CPs after looking to get a pair for a couple of years. I researched a ton online and in person. Reading blogs and videos (like yours). My conclusion after the research was that the silhouette of the CPs is different than all other options available in the same category. It’s a bit narrower, elongated and streamlined. For my personal aesthetics nothing beats the look of it. I also found there are great deals for CP that you can get which makes it an even better buy compared to KOIO. I personally feel KOIO’s profile is not as streamlined as CP. Enjoyed watching your video as always.
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree that the Koios are slightly "chunkier". Not much but if you're sensitive to small details like that, you really notice it. I feel like it's the extra strips of leather rather than just the stitching on CP that contributes to that.
@OsvaldoSousaPuco
@OsvaldoSousaPuco 4 жыл бұрын
@@hespokestyle True! they are a little chunkier due to those cheeks they put in suede (the triple white is not). In this case look for Artisan Lab. They're very much like the CP and sell for something like 170 with shipping.
@desertfox432
@desertfox432 4 жыл бұрын
Love both. The deciding factor for me is the seasonal color offered since I'm not big on white or black. Also, a plus for Koio is the ability to have the laces under the insole for a relaxed wear fit. Nice vid. Try the Koio Mocha if you're into browns.
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Many thanks! Appreciate the comment very much.
@arbur4746
@arbur4746 Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking Moca as well, not a big fan of whites! Although CP has brown as well but Koio seems a better choice to me
@CharlesGuerrero
@CharlesGuerrero 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I own three pairs of Koios (2 hightops, 1 Capri) and love them, and get great comments on them. Never could personally justify spending for the Common Projects myself, but the great thing about shoes and style is you can spend whatever you want for whatever reason.
@Tenthplanetjj86
@Tenthplanetjj86 Жыл бұрын
Koio capris are $295 and CPs are $323 at Harrods. Couldn’t justify spending an extra $28? ☺️
@faridmahnad4985
@faridmahnad4985 4 жыл бұрын
The Rose anvil has a video in which he cuts a common projects in half. And I have to say the construction seems sub-par at the very best. I might try the koio next time I’m in market for white sneakers. Thanks for the introduction to the brand.
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
You got it. I'm not qualified to speak on issues of construction like Rose Anvil. Seems like an awesome video.
@faridmahnad4985
@faridmahnad4985 4 жыл бұрын
Brian: here’s a review of common projects. The whole comment section: yeah, but have you watched the Rose anvil video? Brian: motion to dismiss.
@a3zth3tikz
@a3zth3tikz 4 жыл бұрын
I was gonna say this! I was on the fence between CP and Koio and CP edges out because of the brand. However, after watching Rose Anvil’s video, I have now extreme doubts with how truthful CP is with what they say regarding their product. I’m now heavily leaning towards Koio.
@rama273
@rama273 4 жыл бұрын
There is no other sneaker with a comparable silhouette and elegance of the Achilles. The only other one I have ever seen is the Gustin brand but those are not ready to wear. In any case, the price is too high but you can find barely used or new for $300 ish. I have worn the hell out of my CPs (I walk nearly 20,000 steps a day while at work) and have noticed hardly any wear on them. I do use shoe trees and clean them every few months. You are definitely paying a premium but I haven't found a sneaker that has worn better or garnered more compliments. Thanks for posting, Brian!
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
You got it, Sam. Appreciate the comment.
@dvm7005
@dvm7005 4 жыл бұрын
20000? What do you do?
@rama273
@rama273 4 жыл бұрын
​@@dvm7005 I work in luxury retail. In addition, I walk a mile to and from work.
@RFerreira2009
@RFerreira2009 4 жыл бұрын
This is precisely it. The Achilles silhouette and the way they age is, simply put, perfection. I have not seen anything come even close to it.
@qarhsi
@qarhsi 4 жыл бұрын
i think common projects look slightly nicer than koio
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Personally, I like the look of Common Projects better too.
@skins189lbs4
@skins189lbs4 3 жыл бұрын
Very slightly. Until you get to the gold numbering. Then it's a tie
@skins189lbs4
@skins189lbs4 3 жыл бұрын
CP has less visible stitching which looks nicer. Can't stand those gold numbers or the price
@skins189lbs4
@skins189lbs4 3 жыл бұрын
CP has less visible stitching which looks nicer. Can't stand those gold numbers or the price
@clintony3000
@clintony3000 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. I'd recommend watching Rose Anvil's video where he cuts a CP sneaker up and inspects the leather and construction of the sneaker.
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Will check it out. And thanks for the support and comment. I, personally, am not ready to cut up a pair of CPs!
@clintony3000
@clintony3000 4 жыл бұрын
@@hespokestyle Well first you'd have to develop a hatred for money. And yes, I absolutely love your channel, sir. Thanks for the great content.
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
@@clintony3000 Kind of like smoking a $500 cigar--which I've never done, by the way. It must feel like you're burning $100 bills.
@clintony3000
@clintony3000 4 жыл бұрын
@@hespokestyle I mean at that point you may as well just smoke $100 dollar bills, really. Let's not beat around the pretentious bush here...
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
@@clintony3000 I will say that I was fortunate to have been treated to a vintage cigar once--over 20 years old cuban partagas--which I'm sure was in the $200-300 range and it was absolutely exquisite. A well-aged cigar like that is great. Would I personally pay that much? Eh, maybe for a VERY special once in a lifetime occasion.
@BeachPleased
@BeachPleased 4 жыл бұрын
I lived where Koio and Common Projects is unavailable, but I'm here just to hear " I'm Brian Sacawa and you're watching He Spoke Style"
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Aww, you're very kind. Thanks so much for the support!
@campkira
@campkira 4 жыл бұрын
i had off white..yeezy and jordan and LV gucci. i don't care...it a shoe...
@robertgiaimo8935
@robertgiaimo8935 4 жыл бұрын
Very fair and straightforward comparison. I’ve been a fan of the white leather tennis shoe for a long time my, first pair was the Adidas Robert Halliet (later to become the Stan Smith). I’ve owned M Gemini, Crown North Hampton, Comme des Garcon and Common Projects and I have to say I enjoyed them all. Since I’m sentimental when it comes to clothing I still always have a pair of Stan Smith’s in the closet. (I also always have several pairs of Jack Purcells) Although the old brands are not as comfortable as the new more upscale brands. I also played tennis against Stan in high school many years ago.❤️
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Whoa! Who won?! Thanks so much for chiming in, Robert. Appreciate the comment and support very much.
@robertgiaimo8935
@robertgiaimo8935 4 жыл бұрын
He won, but I’ve always used the excuse that he was a couple years older than me.
@johnkitchen2924
@johnkitchen2924 3 жыл бұрын
The world is a bonkers place and I’m a newcomer to sneakers. I live in South Northamptonshire, England, and found out about Crown Northampton from your shout out to Kavalier’s Sneaker reviews. They’re 15 miles from my front door, go figure! Anyway I went up to the factory in July with my son to get a pair for his birthday and came away with a pair for myself as well. Chris, the owner, is trying to hold it together through Covid19 and distributes the work out to his staff to work from home during this difficult times. I now have two pairs and love the workmanship. Great to see a good review from Rose Anvil this week too. It’s well deserved. Great craftsmanship should always be celebrated. Enough said. Keep up the great work too. If you have any more Northamptonshire finds then please let me know. For the record I’m Church’s not Crockett’s 🙂
@razmspiele25
@razmspiele25 4 жыл бұрын
To the individuals mentioning Rose Anvil's review, Brian says in the first 2 minutes that you're paying the luxury tax with CP. People that can afford luxury items know they're not really worth the price for the materials alone. It's brand recognition and how wearing expensive things make people feel that opens their wallets.
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@nukie404
@nukie404 4 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the experience of buying one (if it's bought offline), getting customer support when needed, and other perks that may come with the price. There's also money to be paid for those who designed these shoes!
@zBMatt
@zBMatt 4 жыл бұрын
Razmspiele some luxury things are actually built for their price, such as a Barbour Beaufort or a Burberry Scarf. Some things are simply expensive due to the fact that they both have properties other things can’t have and are really rare to come by such as cashmere or shetland.
@pmrp12
@pmrp12 4 жыл бұрын
Razmspiele it’s one thing for something to have a “luxury tax”, but it’s another thing to be deceitful. I’m not familiar enough with how Common Projects markets these or what they say about them, but for so many to say it’s made with a particular quality of materials and it’s actually not-is a problem. At this point, there are so many viable competitors in the minimal sneaker space that the old guard needs to step it up to compete-not remain stagnant or worse, step down for profit. Again, don’t know enough to claim what’s happening here-just reacting to the recent drama. Related, I couldn’t be happier with my Beckett Simonon Reid’s! Way exceeded my quality and comfort expectations, especially for the sale price.
@miguelcustodio2177
@miguelcustodio2177 4 жыл бұрын
@@hespokestyle We're all aware of the "Luxury Tax" , design and of course the profit etc. and that's ok, but please allow me to constructively point out that you are talking about quality.
@StevenEspaniola
@StevenEspaniola 3 жыл бұрын
Just copped Common Projects Achilles Low in black colorway for $15 in my local Goodwill! Couldn’t believe it! Almost deadstock!
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 3 жыл бұрын
NOICE!
@izy3109
@izy3109 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison. All of the differences you mentioned are spot on. I own both and can easily recommend both. Koio offers better value, but I love the subtle branding on the CP. Probably not worth the price difference though, even when the CP can be found at a discount. As for those who are going crazy over the Rose Anvil video, these are still the best minimal sneakers you can find, even if they are not the absolute best quality materials around. I’ll continue to buy because I know they last and look great.
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for chiming in, Izzy. I agree that CP is one of the best looking.
@johnb.8376
@johnb.8376 4 жыл бұрын
I have Common Projects and have been very happy. Maybe a pair of Koio’s next in order to compare.
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Would be curious to see what you think after having done my own!
@Danny-ti8qs
@Danny-ti8qs Жыл бұрын
Picked up my common projects for $220 - I’m a huge fan boy. They are the best shoes I’ve ever owned.
@sameer0581
@sameer0581 4 жыл бұрын
I switched to Golden Goose, so much more comfortable and love the worn-in look that requires no babying. Also, Wings and Horns white sneakers, some of the best quality casual shoes I have encountered.
@Schnitzeljunge
@Schnitzeljunge 3 жыл бұрын
glued sole yeah🙄
@preauxbleu1579
@preauxbleu1579 6 ай бұрын
If the price on the CPs are an issue, then do something about it. When I saw the CPs I saved up for them right away. 90 days later, I walking out of Nordstrom wearing the best minimalist white sneakers on earth. They’re fantastic and I haven’t needed to buy a white sneaker since.
@timvibes
@timvibes 2 жыл бұрын
Big thing to keep in mind if you're big on comfort and versatility is the Koios have a thicker foam insole which is removable, unlike the CP's have a thinner and non-removeable insole.
@jawntanamo_bae
@jawntanamo_bae 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve had both Koio and Common Projects sneakers. I returned the Koios almost immediately as the sizing felt wrong, it felt like an extremely narrow last, I don’t know if this is a normal with the brand or if it was a QC issue but I’m a normal foot size, and it was way to thin of a sneaker. I loved my Common Projects but I honestly don’t feel like they stood up to heavy use, even with taking good care of them they lasted barely more than a year. I would say my favorite white sneaker has been the New Republic Kurt, it is a great value and when the sneaker lasts only a year or so I don’t feel bad about that price point
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for chiming in, Mathew. Since I have a narrow foot to begin with, it's not a problem for me!
@ejm6122
@ejm6122 4 жыл бұрын
That was my concern, I'm not someone who has a narrow foot but I'm not all together a wide range either. I don't honestly have a well defined arch so my concern is something of a concern.
@jawntanamo_bae
@jawntanamo_bae 4 жыл бұрын
Side note: if you want the clout Common Projects are worth it, they look great
@BonitoFlakes24
@BonitoFlakes24 4 жыл бұрын
He Spoke Style do they usually run big? Would you recommend the size 42 for someone size 10-10.5?
@quincyvictorsen8209
@quincyvictorsen8209 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Brian. "Common" misconception for the "Common Projects" is that it is EU sizing. They are, in fact, IT sizing. This will account for the slight difference you saw between the CPs and Koio. When considering sizing for this shoe - just note that comparable IT sizing is one size LOWER than EU. As an example - if you are 42 EU then you will likely find yourself at a 41 in Common Projects. As with any sizing "recommendation," I suggest trying on a pair or two before making the purchase. Especially when considering the higher price point CPs.
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers, Quincy! Thanks for chiming in.
@Ismail-ie5gi
@Ismail-ie5gi 4 жыл бұрын
Here we go. What I’ve been waiting for. As a CP fan, interested in your take. Haven’t tried the Koio’s they have a wider range of color ways it seems but idk there’s a cult following that CP has. I do believe that I’ll try the Koio’s in the near future maybe in a hi top or brown low.
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely let me know what you think after watching!
@Ismail-ie5gi
@Ismail-ie5gi 4 жыл бұрын
He Spoke Style think that as usual it was a good video. Kinda took a middle of the road stance relative to cost which is a big factor for folks especially nowadays right (thanks Coronavirus) I’ve watched the Kavalier’s post and others. They’ll be some that swear by CP and others that are looking for similar quality but believe the cost for CP is insane. Koio, Greats, etc will probably fill this gap.
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ismail-ie5gi Thanks for the response. I can't decide how you spend your money. I prefer to present the most fair comparisons as possible with a little opinion and then arm you with the info that you'll need to make a good purchase for yourself.
@Ismail-ie5gi
@Ismail-ie5gi 4 жыл бұрын
He Spoke Style Totally get it. Thanks for the great content. Looking forward to future posts 👍🏾
@kken1335
@kken1335 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review Brian. I was looking at both brands and decided to try new republic’s minimal sneaker and was not disappointed. Can’t bring myself to pay over 300 if it’s not a hard bottom Goodyear welt.
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
You got it, Professor!
@jawntanamo_bae
@jawntanamo_bae 4 жыл бұрын
I have had my New Republic white sneakers for 2 years now. I wear them all the time. They still look great
@tjs5770
@tjs5770 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review! I watched that video from John and ended up going with the Greats. Would love you hear your thoughts on them and M. Gemi.
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Don't have any experience with Greats. M.Gemi I did not like as much as Koio. Not as comfortable to me.
@elevatedsupernova
@elevatedsupernova 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the steady insights during this turbulent time. I’ve found your videos to be a wonderful respite to the chaos!
@kongmw
@kongmw 4 жыл бұрын
For a carbon copy of the CPs, I have a pair from Gustin that's just about ready to give up the ghost, after heavy wear for ~3.5 years. At 40% the price of CP, well worth every single penny. That said, I'm ready to step up to the real deal after the pandemic.
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
I've heard a little about Gustin--not much though. Will put on my list to check out.
@kongmw
@kongmw 4 жыл бұрын
@@hespokestyle As with anything Gustin, I usually just order and forget about them. Then it's a nice surprise when they show up 4 months later 😂
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
@@kongmw Oh, really!
@amlandutta7006
@amlandutta7006 2 жыл бұрын
Can we compare these with puma ralph sampson shoe
@GabrielLima-mi4br
@GabrielLima-mi4br 4 жыл бұрын
4:47 if these shoes are "extremely comfortable", I'd like to know what words you use to describe how comfortable something like an UltraBOOST is. (This is not supposed to be offensive, actually, nice comparison) Another question is: do you think the Koios last as long as the Common Projects? I'm interested to buy one of them but with the intention to use for something like 5 years
@user-sk5qm6of4i
@user-sk5qm6of4i 4 жыл бұрын
yea you can't compare a running shoe with a leather shoe. Ultra boost is like pillows no leather :)
@willyuan1
@willyuan1 4 жыл бұрын
Different shoe. CPs have been pretty comfortable for a leather sneaker tbh.
@connoisseurm103
@connoisseurm103 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been wearing CP’s for about 15 years now and I love them. I have owned around 9 or 10 different colours in leather, patent leather, suede and cotton. The white colour way is obviously the most versatile and I have owned at least 5 pairs. They are durable and comfortable and in my opinion still look great long after the first box fresh wear. My one criticism is the price, they have become over priced for what they are. Yes they are a high quality item, but the quality is still the same as it was when I first bought them 15 years ago and I paid probably a third of the price of what they are now. Popularity has seen a steady increase in pricing, which for me makes them less attractive. I only buy them when on sale now and I’m ok with that. Good comparison video.
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Many thanks. Appreciate the very thoughtful comment. Cheers.
@syrah96
@syrah96 4 жыл бұрын
Might also suggest you consider Crown Northampton, love my whole-cuts
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Second to suggest that brand. I'll have to check them out,
@ejm6122
@ejm6122 4 жыл бұрын
@@hespokestyle my intrest is definitely peaked.
@loki2240
@loki2240 4 жыл бұрын
I think they end up being more expensive than the Koios with exchange rates and duties in the U.S.
@syrah96
@syrah96 4 жыл бұрын
@@loki2240 remember to Minus 20% VAT I think miner ended up $239 or there abouts. Not a significant difference
@syrah96
@syrah96 4 жыл бұрын
also Crown makes a UK 13 (14 US) and a G (wide) fitting for my big fat feet
@ejm6122
@ejm6122 4 жыл бұрын
Brian, outstanding video presentation! I have always been on the fence about COMMON PROJECTS but, now I think that I might actually save money by investing in such a impressively crafted design. I have usually been someone who doesn't mind paying for what I want. Lol I have been a loyalist for my JACK PARCELL... now I'm a bit self conscious about the cost for my brand of sneakers... lol I appreciate all that you set out to do.
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, as always, Ej. Koio is a great pick.
@ejm6122
@ejm6122 4 жыл бұрын
@@hespokestyle but, COMMON PROJECT is the gold standard and the real sneaker of quality. I love the fact that they have such a wide variety of sizes but, how are they as far as sizing related to other brands? If I am a 9m in cole haan and JACK Parcell and Ferragamo would I be the same size in COMMON PROJECT?
@CGMediaproductions
@CGMediaproductions 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Brian! I've owned 2 pairs in 2 years now. And just recently bought my third. How did you manage lasting 7 years with 3 pairs?! Oh, and the second pair made me half crippled whilst trying to "look good" on a Milan citytrip. Never wear fresh CP's on long walks kids..
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the comment. Thanks for chiming in.
@amarulfirdaus
@amarulfirdaus 4 жыл бұрын
How do you keep your Common Projects clean? Great video btw :)
@DanielG0604
@DanielG0604 4 жыл бұрын
3 pairs in 2 years. Usually got them around 300usd with discounts from farfetch and matchesfashion. I prefer the styling and shape of CPs.
@gregbrown2834
@gregbrown2834 Жыл бұрын
Love your advice. I need a slightly wider sneaker. Any advice on what premium minimalist white sneaker might be a little wider?
@xxInanimateObjectxx
@xxInanimateObjectxx 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Brian you showed up on my 9 year olds video, the US Army Band about learning different instruments. Big up to you for being in the army and also a great instrument player.
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! So glad to hear that, Dennis! 17 years in!
@rscully5
@rscully5 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the research put into this video. Wow. Impressive.
@Slov_
@Slov_ 4 жыл бұрын
Considering Rose Anvils recent video ill stick with Koio or my chuck 70s. If a gold standard cuts corners and uses inferior materials I’ll stick with my chucks for the time being. That really rubs me the wrong way especially for the hard earned money people spend
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
I'm adding that video to my queue. I can't pretend to know as much as he seems to about construction, etc. Looks quite interesting. I'm not a fan of chucks. There's no comparison in terms of comfort, for me.
@Slov_
@Slov_ 4 жыл бұрын
I totally understand and get that view point. My view will probably change once I get my Koios in.
@ibra1180
@ibra1180 4 жыл бұрын
Someone actually broke the shoe down and it doesn't live upto the price
@ibra1180
@ibra1180 4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJ-9hKx6lrmqkNU
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for chiming in with that. Many are mentioning this video. Guess it went up less than a week ago!
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the link.
@bluewker
@bluewker 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing really LIVES up to the price. Rose Anvil also openly admitted he didn't understand a lot of the design that went into the shoe, like the usage of a shank. There may be a lot of engineering nuances that the CPs have, that other shoes don't.
@Jojojojo-mk1pj
@Jojojojo-mk1pj 4 жыл бұрын
bluewker shanks are only used for heeled shoes and boots so they don’t flatten out and lose support. Doesn’t make sense in a flat sneaker. No engineering nuances, just weird/useless design.
@seboyce0409
@seboyce0409 4 жыл бұрын
Just got a new pair of light gray CP Achilles lows on sale from SSENSE! Aware of the recent vid by Rose Anvil about quality concerns but still love the brand and its sleek & minimal style, this is my 3rd pair so far.
@vindicator75
@vindicator75 4 жыл бұрын
Watch Rose Anvil's review, he cuts open the low 1. Common Project doesn't even use full grain leather.
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, lots of you guys mentioning this video!
@syrah96
@syrah96 4 жыл бұрын
its a scary video
@iAlphaUbeta
@iAlphaUbeta 4 жыл бұрын
Was going to mention it too, haha. Price doesn’t equal quality, maybe a little style in this case.
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
@@syrah96 You all are much more on top of these videos that me. I recorded this before that one even came out.
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
@@iAlphaUbeta Whatever that video says--I haven't watched it yet--I still got 3.5 years out of each pair of CPs that I have had with incredibly hard wear. That's impressive to me.
@tristan3947
@tristan3947 4 жыл бұрын
I love my Common Projects I do not care if the leather isn't the greatest or the price is too high (I got mine on sale) I bought mine because they are stylish. They are worth every penny the design is comparable but no other brand does it better than Common Projects. Such a simple, classy, and beautiful shoe that makes anyone who wears them look like a million bucks!
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed, totally dependent on what you like.
@johnkitchen2924
@johnkitchen2924 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, Amongst all the controversy... I was searching for my first sneakers and bumped into ‘The Kavalier’ vlog. In his review of high-end sneakers, which you linked in your Common Project/koio review, he reviewed the Crown Northampton shoe. I live 16miles from the Northamptonshire, factory so this morning I went for a fitting, with Chris the owner, and in 3 weeks I should get my shoes. Strange because I found Kavalier because I was already subscribed to you so I found Crown Northampton, my local sneaker maker, via a US vlogger shoe review. Small world. Keep up the good work. I’d love to hear your take on Super Cedar by Byredo. John K
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
That’s super cool! Thanks for the comment, John! And glad to have you as a sub.
@ML-hd2rs
@ML-hd2rs 4 жыл бұрын
Aesthetically Common Projects tops the chart for me. Its proportion and intricacy of design details exude a style so refined and sleek that sets the brand apart.
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Same.
@xDubFreak
@xDubFreak 3 жыл бұрын
You‘re so right. I‘ve used my CPs for 2 years and was looking for an alternative but there was no other sneaker coming close when it comes to shape / silhouette. Therefore, I had to order them again.
@mlee77
@mlee77 3 жыл бұрын
@@xDubFreak absolutely! hard to beat
@LNYuiko
@LNYuiko 2 жыл бұрын
This is what I'm seeing now, having worn Greats for a while now. The Greats and other alternatives are chunkier, which defeats the purpose of the plain minimalist white sneakers. Vans and other canvas type shoes are too slim. CPs have the proportions and silhouette just right.
@UtmostCoin
@UtmostCoin 4 жыл бұрын
This guy is like the "Jeff Nippard" of Style - their delivery is so similar
@elsentai100
@elsentai100 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, Common Projects is not the best quality of leather and materials. Rose Anvil explains it explicitly. I recommend you watch it. Anyway, great video again Brian!
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 3 жыл бұрын
OMG. ARE YOU SERIOUS? ROSE ANVIL? WOW, I NEED TO CHECK THAT OUT.... LOL SMH
@davision647
@davision647 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Brian, you should check out the Good Man Brand version of these. I own several pairs in different colors and I love them just as much as my Common Projects. Keep up the great videos!
@sibulsoosi
@sibulsoosi 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, I bought my white Achilles about 10 years ago from London, and back then the price was 230£. Still wearing the shoes about every week (except in winters).
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Nice! How frequently would you say you wear them?
@niklasbaumgardner7421
@niklasbaumgardner7421 4 жыл бұрын
I just got the Oliver Cabell Low 1 and I'm pretty happy so far. They seem like good quality for the price. I haven't worn them much because of quarantine but I'm excited to hopefully get more use soon.
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for chiming in, Niklas. I've got to try Oliver Cabell.
@omardmg
@omardmg 4 жыл бұрын
In the end is personal preference, I do believe that the CPs look better with a more dressier look and the koios are more for casual look, i dont like to use the CPs with shorts because they are pontier than the koios. But again, personal decision.
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Totally, Omar. Thanks so much for your perspective and for chiming in.
@Clubber_Lang
@Clubber_Lang Жыл бұрын
I got KOIO in black and castagna (brown) Greats in navy and I just ordered CP in white.
@stuarthb8900
@stuarthb8900 4 жыл бұрын
Fair and balanced comparison as always and nice to see you recognize how much work The Kavalier puts in. P.s. drop the house tour whilst we're all stuck at home!
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Jon does a great job--true professional. Oh, man, we aren't quite ready for a house tour. I've actually been putting in some work rearranging the studio a bit over this time so there'll be an updated studio tour in the nearish future!
@shoesnob7987
@shoesnob7987 4 жыл бұрын
Like you I used to assume the Common Projects must be amazing quality, also. But, a cobbler on KZbin cut them open and found that they use top grain instead of full grain leather, and it’s chrome tanned instead of vegetable tanned. They also glue more than they stitch. Common Projects cuts a lot of corners that you don’t know about. You could do better for less money. Unless you’re just buying them for show.
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I actually just watched the Rose Anvil video (and did a reaction). Honestly, I didn't know the differences between all the minutia.
@shoesnob7987
@shoesnob7987 4 жыл бұрын
He Spoke Style Like many, I really enjoy your videos. Keep them up!
@smelltheglove1726
@smelltheglove1726 3 жыл бұрын
The thing is that most people don't know the subtle differences between these white sneakers when you're wearing them, also, they are ALL going to crease and lose their look after some wear, so unless you have the cash to keep popping hundreds, you're fine with a lower-priced option provided they are comfortable and not keep complete crap quality.
@knight6714
@knight6714 4 жыл бұрын
Found a brand new pair CP for 265 USD. Seems like a good price! So happy.
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Nice! Where at?!
@knight6714
@knight6714 4 жыл бұрын
@@hespokestyle Caliroots in Stockholm, Sweden. They had a 30% discount. But I really do think that they did something wrong. The CP was not supposed to be on sale, haha.
@knight6714
@knight6714 4 жыл бұрын
caliroots.com/original-achilles-low/p/28951 This item is excluded from all promotion codes and offers
@PattyTH
@PattyTH 4 жыл бұрын
Your video is very informative and useful. In my country, it is hard to find Common Project here.
@Vscounter
@Vscounter Жыл бұрын
How's the sizing on the Koio compare to ...let's say Yeezy 350? Does it come bigger or smaller? Is it wide feet friendly? Thanks!
@Phrill85
@Phrill85 4 жыл бұрын
As a men's shoe enthusiast and having seen the Rose Anvil review. I think it stirs up a lot more feelings than it should. There's no question that Common Projects has a typical big brand markup. For people like Brian, who has had 3 pairs already, I'm sure he has seen the rise in price during those 7 years he has been buying the brand. Of course we want the best quality, but there is a limit to the sneaker construction itself, since it increases the chance of damaging the uppers when taken apart for resoling. Thus it is not really meant for resoling, which in turn makes the full grain argument not valid for this discussion. There is already a huge step up in leather quality compared to more mainstream lower end brands like Nike, Fred Perry, Adidas etc. I've seen a lot of comparisons between the creasing of the leather of Common Project's vs other CP like brands and CP seem to come out on top. Although I need to add that creasing can be due to lots of factors like the lining, shape of the last compared to the foot inside the shoe, the pattern of the leather parts etc Which in turn takes me to the shape of CP lasts. They are a lot more elegant than their generic brands. Koio seem to be very comparable and so are the new Vekla sneakers from Sonsofhenrey. I've been following Crown Northampton and their shoes, since before the Kavalier and the likes started doing reviews of them. Even though the quality is pretty good and they claim to be able to resole them, I'm not sure how many times they can and how good the results will be. Their lasts are just not as sleek as CP, but can work great for people who don't mind or with a style with less fitted clothes to match their a bit more bulky look. Having owned a lot of shoes(mostly dress shoes) and trying to understand more about them. I've come to the conclusion that specs alone in a shoe don't say very much, unless your foot likes the feel of the shoes. Sometimes it's just worth paying more for something you know will fit and work for you, instead of trying out 3 different other brands and end up paying the same or more. CP will also sometimes go on sale in different brick and mortar stores, which makes them even more price worthy. The same cannot always be said about direct to consumer products, which is based on a price model without "middle men" or sales. Just remember that unless you are buying directly from the shoe factory itself, the shop/web shop itself is the middle man between you and the factory. Instagram: @shoesinoslo
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Appreciate you chiming in, Philippe. Admittedly, I am no expert on construction the way some people are. I can only go by my experience, which has been positive.
@albundy3929
@albundy3929 15 күн бұрын
Do you ever wear a black sneaker with white outsole? I'm struggling how to wear them.
@pali4ever778
@pali4ever778 4 жыл бұрын
@hespokestyle If anyone was worried about the price, there are multiple Common Projects on sale for around $250. And everyone saying CP are not good quality because of that video...they haven't owned a pair. Not sure why everyone is a leather expert or wants to dissect a shoe to try to lessen its worth. Bottom line is the other brands are just CP ALTERNATIVES. And in my eyes, although comparable in style, the CP wins - but I guess they have to pay the price to find that out.
@XxLogo
@XxLogo 4 жыл бұрын
I one day will get a pair of higher quality white leather sneakers, but I am currently using the Club Monaco one's and they seem okay for the price I paid for now. Question, are you thinking about doing a review/try on of Spier & Mackay items? Love their fit and think it'd be a great video!
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to!
@dennisfrazier3405
@dennisfrazier3405 4 жыл бұрын
Great review! I have never had either shoe, but it’s good to know that both are comparable.
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you can't go wrong with Koio.
@dennisfrazier3405
@dennisfrazier3405 4 жыл бұрын
Cool!
@fatlenny7653
@fatlenny7653 4 жыл бұрын
Looking good with the beard, Brian.
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, man! Appreciate the comment and support.
@rachellockwoodle
@rachellockwoodle 3 жыл бұрын
Common projects hits it out of the park
@russ6362
@russ6362 3 жыл бұрын
Thought about the common projects but opted for the Grenson Sneaker 1...awesome quality!
@1911fortyfiv5
@1911fortyfiv5 4 жыл бұрын
Just subbed, great review and sick crew neck sweater, what brand is it?? Let me know lol thanks
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome! And thanks! It’s old. From Converse.
@persianwingman
@persianwingman 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, both are a great choice.
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers. Thanks for chiming in.
@Visqo1
@Visqo1 4 жыл бұрын
Great and detailed video
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@willlevine9692
@willlevine9692 4 жыл бұрын
Brian, that’s a great look for you!
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
@AlanPatterson
@AlanPatterson 4 жыл бұрын
Picked up a pair Grenson Sneaker 1 a great shoemaker from the UK
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
I have a couple pairs of Grenson boots. They're great.
@ItsJustMeStevie
@ItsJustMeStevie 5 ай бұрын
Great video!
@arb3562
@arb3562 4 жыл бұрын
I love both these channels😁😁hss and kavalier
@rufinoguillen6435
@rufinoguillen6435 4 жыл бұрын
The greats royale blanco are kinda killers!
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Personally don’t have any experience with Greats.
@hassanjavaid8880
@hassanjavaid8880 2 ай бұрын
Hello, Should I size down 1 size for CPs?
@MehdiScent
@MehdiScent 4 жыл бұрын
Watching now ... great title brother 🤜🤛
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Sweet! Thanks so much. Hope you enjoy.
@toni.wijaya
@toni.wijaya 4 жыл бұрын
first... i like white minimal sneakers. good review sir
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Appreciate the comment and support!
@aPixelcoffee
@aPixelcoffee 4 жыл бұрын
I just recently found out that the suede lining at the heel is supposed to add traction! But in a smooth way. That's ingenius.
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Neat! Thanks for the comment!
@gilbertoflores7397
@gilbertoflores7397 4 жыл бұрын
It's meant for heel lock down, so your foot doesn't slip out. It because if it was all leather and smooth, your sock/foot would slip out.
@ShiNwoMbat
@ShiNwoMbat 4 жыл бұрын
The tongue of koio digs into the ankle area. It's a big let down for people wear it with no show socks. =(
@MJKupload
@MJKupload 4 ай бұрын
Anyone with experience wearing Pimi Parma sneakers? It looks like that white sneakers with very nice greyish sole can be bout for 200 eur and looks like that its almost same as CP.
@KNOWLEDGEISAWEAPON
@KNOWLEDGEISAWEAPON 4 жыл бұрын
I recently found out about "Good Man Brand" which is Russell Wilson's clothing brand. I think their "Edge" model is the closest thing to get a CP model for about half the price. For anyone interested in this category of shoes, I highly suggest it!
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah? Link?
@KNOWLEDGEISAWEAPON
@KNOWLEDGEISAWEAPON 4 жыл бұрын
@@hespokestyle here ya go! thegoodmanbrand.com/collections/sneakers/products/edge-lo-top-sneaker-white. Not as many colors but I'm honestly surprised more folks aren't talking about their shoes!
@musicfashionstyle4251
@musicfashionstyle4251 Жыл бұрын
Which one is better for buy.
@shotieblackmore
@shotieblackmore 4 жыл бұрын
if I cant buy CP then i would buy artisan labs very simillar look i dont really like koio's side leather theme
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for chiming in. I'll check out that brand.
@raphaeldelman4280
@raphaeldelman4280 4 жыл бұрын
It would be nice to see how these brands compare to the Paul Smith’s Basso leather sneakers that retail at U$390
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, not sure myself.
@gilmendoza8092
@gilmendoza8092 4 жыл бұрын
Rose Anvil just made the video on Koio
@jasonm129
@jasonm129 4 жыл бұрын
I like both, koio has better colors imo so I chose them
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers! Thanks for chiming in, Jason.
@life_in_solace
@life_in_solace 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect video at the perfect time.
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
You got it! Thanks for chiming in.
@life_in_solace
@life_in_solace 4 жыл бұрын
@@hespokestyle can you do a video on comparing camel color suede Chelsea boots? I'm interested in the common projects chelsea but just wondering if theres better bang for buck out there
@phoebelee55
@phoebelee55 4 жыл бұрын
Koi’s is good, own a pair but now I’m going to CP to see.. thank you
@toonlad4091
@toonlad4091 4 жыл бұрын
What glasses do you wear mate? I will be trying out Koio after my artisan labs die
@roderickmoppins2478
@roderickmoppins2478 4 жыл бұрын
How would people compare New Republic brand of white minimalist sneakers
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Personally, I have no experience. Anybody else?
@malcolmmcconner4851
@malcolmmcconner4851 4 жыл бұрын
I love their sneakers. They are comfortable, stylish, and easy to clean.
@OsvaldoSousaPuco
@OsvaldoSousaPuco 4 жыл бұрын
I have both. The koio leather is more durable, the CP is more soft. The padding on the tongue of the CP is nice. The CP has a better foot bed nicer to put your feet without socks. The CP foot bed is glued 😡 the koio slides out easily. You can hunt for CP for 265 usd on end clothing. I got mine there. If the price of the CP is higher, then the koio is the better buy. They more or less the same. Your average friend won’t notice a difference.
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate the comment, Osvaldo!
@OsvaldoSousaPuco
@OsvaldoSousaPuco 4 жыл бұрын
He Spoke Style Thanks!!!
@OsvaldoSousaPuco
@OsvaldoSousaPuco 4 жыл бұрын
I would like to hear from someone with both the Koio/CP and the Artisan Lab as the AL is very similar looking to the CP and even cheaper than koio. I placed a order for a AL but for the minimal sneaker which is more streamlined than the essential sneaker which looks like the CP. I also like the look of the CP more than the koio which is a bit chubby by the ankle region. I would also like to see these sneakers with slimmer soles. I have a MGemi with a slimmer margom sole (the sempre uomo). Very much alike aside from the slimming down.
@ronm6585
@ronm6585 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brian.
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@Nvlutey27
@Nvlutey27 4 жыл бұрын
Any experience with National Standard shoes/sneakers?
@hydroaegis6658
@hydroaegis6658 3 жыл бұрын
Would you like a >10X markup or >5X markup?
@ahmedarusi8463
@ahmedarusi8463 3 жыл бұрын
Can anyone tell me which crew sweatshirt Brian is wearing in this video? been searching for one like this for years.
@melo755
@melo755 4 жыл бұрын
KSWISS is the ultimate white sneaker!
@N.M.T.K
@N.M.T.K 4 жыл бұрын
They are aesthetically pleasing to the eye. In simplistic & wear. I know they are not that High Quality... But after having a sneaker grown on you for so long it hard to let go. There are many modern clean sneakers to choose from. Go after what you like ;) Thanks for the review
@timschmitt8668
@timschmitt8668 4 жыл бұрын
what sweater are you wearing?
@hespokestyle
@hespokestyle 4 жыл бұрын
It's just a plain athletic sweatshirt by Converse.
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