Saosin - "It's Far Better To Learn"

[@danmancini4059]

Revisiting this video like 10 years later. The vocals are not nearly as bad as I remember them being. Still better than what I could do tbh.

[@gumborambo4540]

Cove just played a set with them a few days ago. His vocals have improved so much.

[@titzmageex]

They’re pretty bad. Especially considering what cove is actually capable of.

[@JamesEatWorld7758]

@@titzmageexhe was super burned out at this point. He wasn’t treated well his first go around in the band. It definitely wore him out

[@joeheinrichs1413]

He's over singing on purpose, not sure why, but he certainly didn't look happy through that performance.

[@rickyiswhite117]

@@joeheinrichs1413assuming this video is from 2010 it was right around when he got kicked out for his declining performance

[@profskweeze9582]

Their drummer alex rodriguez is a fucking legend 🤯🤯

[@arthuredlin350]

He’s got such a groove really enjoy his style!!!!

[@stevenhahn3450]

Definitely not probably the drummer posting on his own song lol

[@kidsfromthenorth3191]

WHERE IS MY BODY WASH!!!!

[@Chillfreshh]

its like watching a high school talent show lmao....

[@raihantaqy2187]

your comment made my day

[@titzmageex]

Except everyone is great here aside from the singer

[@beckettclyde3301]

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[@otisclyde9167]

@Beckett Clyde i would suggest FlixZone. You can find it by googling :)

[@leroyian8836]

@Otis Clyde yea, have been using Flixzone for months myself =)

[@DaveConnellGuitar]

1:47 bombastic side eye

[@GoAsCloseAsYouCan]

WHERE IS MY BODY WASH?! Forever. 🖤

[@ryndanriley5348]

Cove was a vocalist with tons of potential. That's why he was so inconsistent. He never learned to train his voice. That's why howard benson could get great vocals out of him, and he was so inconsistent live. He just wasn't ready to be a professional singer no matter how awesome his voice and range could've been.

[@AlexanderLeGrand17]

Ryndan Riley i heard he started smoking weed constantly. Who is benson btw?

[@Gmark25]

@@AlexanderLeGrand17 He admitted to smoking cigarettes but that's hardly enough to have that inconsistent of a voice. Benson was the dude who produced their self-titled.

[@pouringblue7]

Howard benson former UFC champ?

[@JamesEatWorld7758]

It doesn’t help that I don’t think the band ever tried to let him be his own, they always wanted a replacement for Anthony and I think that caused some issues.

[@stevethepirate]

they should have just let Beau sing and added Phil Sneed from story of the year :)

[@SleepyEdd]

I feel sorry for Cove dude, bloke sounds amazing in the studio, but pushed it so far that it was almost impossible to replicate that live....

[@ptrekboxbreaks5198]

And his smoking didn't help...he destroyed his vocal chords between that and the singing...such a shame

[@markabad2275]

I come here every 1am just to have a good laugh.

[@simonz5002]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@LiquidRadioStation]

😂😂😂

[@TheCDVigil]

Wow this actually makes me feel confident about my singing.

[@fkmzky_]

😂

[@ptrekboxbreaks5198]

Cove really damaged his vocal chords...such a shame it hurt his career as well as the future of Saosin. Imagine had he never been let go...the songs they could've made

[@PeanutButterGtr]

I used to be mad about them kicking Cove out of the band. But now I see that it was absolutely necessary. Otherwise, his bad singing would've made the rest of the band look horrible and that's just not fair. The 4 of them are SPECTACULAR musicians.

[@ptrekboxbreaks5198]

Yea this performance clearly shows he damaged his vocal chords and proves why they let him go. Still love what they made

[@ByronBullets1]

Right?! This is my favorite album of theirs but Cove wasn’t the right fit. He seems to be pushing it far past his vocal abilities. The original lineup kicks way more ass. I here cove is stepping in for Scary Kids. I hope he doesn’t bring them down too. I fucking love that band!!!

[@natemoon9796]

@@ptrekboxbreaks5198he didn’t damage his vocals, he was just never very good to begin with and had a higher vocal range when he first joined compared to a few years later when he matured and his voice dropped. His voice was also crazy overproduced on the Self Titled album. Howard Bensen made that record sound amazing

[@JamesEatWorld7758]

@@natemoon9796 that’s not true. Check out dead American and the dude is fantastic. I love Saosin but the truth of the matter is his band mates were assholes to him. They constantly let him know he was never good enough and man, after a while that weighs on a person. Howard Benson got good vocals out of him because he worked with him and empowered the dude to have some confidence.

[@gamingnguitar4527]

​@@natemoon9796 his vocal range is insane....a lot of work was probably done to keep him on pitch. I would put money on it that if he had a vocal teacher and lots of practice, he could have been great.

[@prizefighter7607]

Based on the quality of Cove's trash stash, this was well into his "checking out" of the band after years of ridicule by the rest of the band. He wasn't bad, I enjoyed his vocals more than Green's even, but the same thing that made Anthony leave Saosin was probably the same thing that effected Cove: Difference in direction of which the instrumentalists were unwilling the waver on.

[@milosmarkovic7955]

+PrizeFighter I see your point but anthony is back :P

[@tcwartenbe2637]

This sounds like their Live in Philly album.

[@caseylockwood5512]

You had one job...

[@Brandon-to9vp]

Coves new band is called Dead American, it's pretty good 👍👍👍

[@jimbeaux89]

Dude I miss this band. One of my faves back in the day

[@BuckyBadger513]

Well...he was good on the records lol

[@shai8745]

dude you kill me

[@somersfamily]

This is an old comment . But cove can sing. Trust me I've seen them 6 times live. Dude is fucking awesome

[@ciaranrulz10]

@@somersfamily i agree, the come close dvd shows how good cove could be

[@jamesh2363]

You guys realise the DVD shows are heavily edited and have lots of pitch correction/autotune on right?

[@sparkfx5874]

Bruh this video makes Cove look like absolute shit, but I saw Saosin live with Cove like 4 times and they were amazing. Vocals on point. Idk what the excuse is here though lol

[@twilitsaenguani485]

"WHERE IS MY BODYWASH!?" (Cove Reber)

[@pouringblue7]

I came here cause I Love Saosin and to read the comments. Some of you guys are so mean! Did he ever find his body wash though?

[@osmondjordaniel3231]

Hahaha

[@TheJetsfaneh]

I once ran up to Anthony Green at a Circa Survive/MCR show and said "you've been really diplomatic in the press about the whole Cove Reber thing, but they're nothing without you." His reply,,,"I know."

[@markjohnstonofficial]

True passion is shown by dedication to excellence in your craft and your art. Passion would be working your ass off to be the best singer possible because thats what matters most, and you can tell from this, and numerous other videos like it that it's just simply not the case.

[@lawlinyourface]

hard song to cover and sing

[@lutfiperdana9314]

Even it's hard for cove himself

[@PoetsAndCasualties]

I hate that cove lost his voice. He used to be amazing live but I guess he's one of the unlucky vocalists who lose their ability to sing live after years of constant strain. Sad that he lost such an amazing voice.

[@bryanbaez4412]

Nah. It was the chain smoking and never warming up.

[@aaronmalcolm8890]

Ever listen Dead American? Hmm I guess not

[@bangbangcabrera]

@@aaronmalcolm8890 it's not the same power and range that he used to have tho. If you listen to live versions of Dead American songs you'll see his overall quality of voice had downgraded. However, he was able to hit that high note on Voices back on 2018 so maybe he's just not trying to push his voice as much

[@aaronmalcolm8890]

@@bangbangcabrera very well could be true. The big thing to remember is that he was also trying to maintain the range of Anthony Green while he was still in Saosin. I think manny try to compare apples to oranges. Both are great in their own ranges. I love both of them as musicians and wish them both great success in the future

[@bangbangcabrera]

@@aaronmalcolm8890 definitely agree with you there, while Cove prob damaged his voice trying to equal Anthony's range they're both super amazing and talented singers. Just like you said, they'll get compared but they're both on their own levels

[@definestefan2052]

the drummer looks like the guitarist of under oath lol

[@FreshSqueezedLightning]

You're right

[@MCNeurotiK]

There appears to be an echo in the venue where this was recorded. Also; His mic is wayyy to fucking loud. The other mics are barely even on.

[@adamfitchadam]

I always wondered about the range issue. And I always wondered how much he was pushing himself to get those notes - this shows that he was pushing himself way too much and too dangerously. Its a shame.

[@ScreamForTheTruth]

The reason he wasn't singing right or not trying was because he was no longer happy being in the band. There was a lot of drama between cove and the other band members.

[@ryant3922]

Is this real?

[@ok-alarm]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH I LOVE SAOSIN AND COVE BUT, THIS IS FUNNY HAHAHAHA

[@markjohnstonofficial]

How can you say that while listening to this?

[@historyoflol5611]

Does anyone know whether Anthony does Cove songs or vise versa?

[@kidsfromthenorth3191]

historyof LOL yes, AG has done two songs when Cove took over.

[@ttandtro]

รักมากวงนี้ อิอิ love saosin from thailand

[@เกรียนคีบอด-ป1ช]

ผมว่าเล่นดีปกตินะ แต่ฝรั่งชอบคอมเม้นด่าโคฟ

[@Visible_Quin]

Cove should have said "what is my singing worth" !

[@ignitedFuR33]

People... Cove is a great singer.... In fact the only reason i ever listened to this band was because of him, so check out some real performances and stop gazing and magnifying on the couple that arent nearly as horrible as any other rock band that cant sing, but just scream and jump. We all know that Cove can sing, and sing well. Its the people that cant get over Anthony that love to feed on vids like this. Check out some ISOSG live performance DVD vids, or come close. And then hate, impossible

[@akas.5458]

cove sucks live....where is my body wash :D

[@neoscreamous]

damn LMFAO !!

[@nickstallings1043]

😂

[@historyoflol5611]

watch the Come Close DVD

[@orchidmalevolence9726]

@@historyoflol5611 it was produced after the live set. He didn't suck though, but he kinda jacked up his voice after their 2nd album.

[@orchidmalevolence9726]

I love the hell out of Cove but I can't help but laugh... In a good way tho haha

[@paesanng]

I feel very sorry for Cove though. He only got into the band because his audition tape sounded similar to Anthony Green. For the years he was in Saosin, he was always compared to Anthony Green and so many of the old Saosin fans hated him because he was similar but not the same to Green. Finally, Cove was kicked out of Saosin. Gotta feel bad for him

[@boxcarracer10]

My ears are bleeding from those vocals, no joke!

[@MrPeacefulnuke]

Back when the studio version was on youtube you could have heard the good version.

[@PoetsAndCasualties]

You didn't know anthony rejoined for a show in the future? Hopefully a tour too!

[@metalizermetalizer512]

Anthony was meant for Circa Survive,this dude was Saosin haters gonna hate

[@brycesizzle122591]

If his vox weren't 10 times to loud it really wouldn't sound so bad.

[@willhayden4311]

Exactly. A lot of this could have been fixed with a better live mix. His vocal is way too loud and needs to be compressed. Is it a great performance? No. But this mix highlights Cove’s mistakes WAY too much.

[@kinJoauin86]

he wasn't kicked out becuase of smoking... it was nothing about smoking... beau and the others felt like cove couldn't represent the name saosin anymore.. i mean dreads... back in 2010 he had dreads.. thats a incubus thing... then his voice is changing....

[@projectheartbreak]

you can tell the whole time by the looks on the other members faces, "stick a fork in him"

[@irfaniss]

"Where is my body wash!" haha :p

[@ezarariawan12]

Mom , this is not a phase

[@Yazawo1]

@snusskalle there was actually an interview he did...dont remember where it was. but the reason he stopped doing warm ups was because people in the band started to shit on him for his voice, so he just kinda said fuck it then

[@Mariooo57]

holy hell Cove what were you doing

[@dirTliar]

wonder who there new singer is gonna be

[@adamfitchadam]

@Swansen03 So many factors kill your voice, if you wanna be really careful you wont smoke, drink alcohol or acidic fruit juice, you wont eat dairy, you wont eat several hours before bed, you need a lot of sleep, you should warm up before every show and have should a routine of excercises - but we all know if you're in a band that just can't really happen most of the time. You can't control it if you've just recorded an album where you recorded too high vocals then had to tour it, is a shame.

[@itsDarrell]

It's still such a bummer he fried his voice straining it for Saosin for so long.

[@chrismckirdy27]

sad to see this one of the last performances with Cove before he was canned. He can do WAY better than this, and he is too rad of a dude to be ripped on

[@jessechristmyer6100]

A-Rod is such a fucking monster on drums

[@raychenbjjold]

@applebug yeah, they can record good shit, but playing live is a vital component to ALL bands. regardless.

[@killdano]

well.. that explains a lot

[@slipknotforlife]

does vocalist wearing ralp lauren shoes?

[@Angelusmortis33]

good work turtle

[@xCatastor]

Notice how as soon as cove stops singing, the rest of the band start smiling....lol.

[@snusskalle]

so sad he stopped warming up his voice and caring before performances :(

[@Starvingpuppies]

cove should've just hardcore screamed the whole song

[@arvincore4452]

3 back up vocals isn't enough

[@FreshSqueezedLightning]

Hahaha so true

[@bofaybaykweh]

@Epitomeofextreme it depends on the person. cuz some people it fucks them up, some it doesn't.

[@DarylVincent23]

i came here for the drums.. XD

[@glennmaniling]

Im a big fan of saosin, im always listening to their music, my phone has 90% of their songs...I think....his voice deteriorates because of his growrlings...ever since he learned how to growrl..his voice started to change....i think Cove pushed the limits of his vocal chords because hes trying to hard to growl....and for me,hes voice is purely for clean vocals...but I think due to the fact that theres no one in the band can growrl better, he put his voice to a grinding death...and took that place

[@JamesEatWorld7758]

His voice changed because he gave up and burnt out.

[@93guitarfreek]

@dirTliar they're looking at maybe the singer for tides of man who actually got kicked out of tides for wanting to audition for saosin.

[@DeeperCurrents]

Would love to hear anthony green sing in search of of solid ground

[@kingderples6757]

Yes.. .... Please

[@FARAIMuT08674]

this song is awesome..

[@Liquorfoot]

I hate what happened to Cove's voice. The fact he chose to be a producer vs make music shows he had permanent, or chronic damage to the folds.

[@screamao8841]

u should watch his new band patriot.he sound amazing on vocal and screaming in there.guess he went to a vocal coach

[@jackrookie69]

if you guys look most of their video,you can see the other members always put a face like they want to make it quick,so they can stop hearing cove's voice, but alex seems didnt know whats happening at the front,he is too happy enjoying with his set.lol

[@Swansen03]

@adamfitchadam 's been singing for quite a while, he'd learn control over that period, and, if you listen from when he started to later shows, a few years, he got a lot better. According to a few band members Cove smokes cigarettes.. like often. i'm sure that killed his voice

[@Hans0622]

You know it's sad to see a amazing band like this drop down to this level. I remember the first time I saw them back in 07 and then later in 2010 it was a terrible difference.

[@wheeler2662]

this is my favorate band and the first band i listened to as a young kid. Beautiful intro to this song, im sorry but the singer fucking killed it. Anthony Green with the rest of the band made saosin amazing. Its too bad to see such a wonderful group fallen apart

[@badbunny3750]

2019?

[@DEliseCase]

This isn't anything like being at an actual show in person - I've seen them live, and they were excellent. This video is not representative of what Saosin is like live when you're there (seems like a lot of live videos do this to bands).

[@Ivorinth]

@pheargynt Cove was kicked partially because he chain smoked before most of Saosin's live concerts (and ruined his singing in the process).

[@isaiahhaas1382]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA I JUST LOL'D FOR YEARS

[@willhayden4311]

How many years? Seven?

[@carbnheart6248]

great drum groove ever .

[@bofaybaykweh]

@snusskalle i take it you watched older live videos or the dvd?

[@inamoratasamazing]

WHERE IS MY BODY WASH!?

[@guitarflori]

The singer seems to have no monitor, hes singing in the wrong key while still singing the right(more or less) intervalls :D.

[@mlechman]

Wow, wtf happened to Cove's voice? No wonder they asked him to leave. So sad because he sounds great on the LP.

[@MrDoublelame]

I think it is impossible to sing such a difficult song better than that. If someone could do it better than Cove did on this live then I would appreciate to see it right now.

[@xXJettaXx]

MrDoublelame uhh... Anthony Green lol

[@kenya1773]

@@xXJettaXx to my knowledge green never singed this song

[@8Bituary]

OMG!!! ah ah ah ah what happened to Cove in this video? ah ah ah

[@achmadfaqih2599]

Man, why is Cove so out of 'pitch control'? By the way, I dont remember what brought me here? LOL

[@mch158]

@adammariucci THANK YOU, Saosin are great but when Cove sang he was only really using his nose and a fuck tonne of computers to make it good hence the ultra fail at concerts.

[@josuecarnivoro]

Clic Like, if you are still enjoying this awesome song since 2007

[@hansolzy]

@quin2222 what are you saying?

[@GETxS0ME]

The drummer..wow lol so sick

[@zimbako6877]

Here voice are faded different from 2007 tsskk I miss the old voice

[@mbwcolts]

DAMN

[@chuesengxiong]

Damn! Adam Sandler killed it!

[@maxtrinz]

anthony green!

[@Dahn.Baern.]

What the fuck is Cove doing at 2:50?

[@TheShimmmy]

Lol, okay, first off. Why are you calling it a "growl". Its called a scream, and cove RARELY screams. These "growls" you are hearing is because he is straining his voice because he let it go to shit and can't hit those notes. There are plenty of singers that sing and scream and sound perfect, because they know the proper way to do it. Don't get me wrong, I loved the self titled cd with Cove. It's one of my favorite cd's. He did great on it. But "growling" didn't ruin his voice.

[@AlumarsX]

@Statik1482 I blame the mustache.

[@bryanbaez4412]

His confidence was gone by this point.

[@9290SC]

Alex is a beast!

[@merksperk2]

This is why Cove got kicked out, folks.

[@cameronquinn377]

This is why they spent 6 weeks working on vocals in the studio. :/

[@SuperGrooter]

i have a feeling he wasn't warmed up very much or at all. and yea he sounded way louder than necessary.

[@stinkeroftheyear]

you sure it wasn't that mustache? ;)

[@isalrbbani]

2019 anyone?