Kontakion for the Departed - Kievan Chant - Funeral of Queen Elizabeth II

[@chrispalo5122]

The comments here by those up in arms about whether it is Russian or Kievan do not know anything about Orthodox history or Orthodox music for that matter. This style of chant developed over hundreds of years from the Greek byzantine style of chanting that was introduced to the Kievan Rus. Different styles of chants in the regions started to appear when the political center of Russia moved from Kiev to Moscow beginning in the late 1500s and early 1600s. But this is as ancient as they come. On another note, one can definitely see the western influences on this work by the repeated sharpening of the 7th which would gives the piece a nice harmonic minor leading tone typical in western music like J.S. Bach (nothing wrong with that). I

[@didi-if2vo]

Kyivan ( Kyiv , Ukraine 🇺🇦)

[@trifftocheny6732]

@@didi-if2vo lol

[@chrispalo5122]

@@didi-if2vo You obviously know nothing about Orthodox ecclesiastical music.

[@dc10fomin65]

You are right on, to me it does not matter if you called it Russian, Ukrainian or Chinese, the point is that it is a very old traditional Byzantine chant. I know for a fact Ukrainians are probably one of the most "nationalistic" people on earth, any little resemblance to their national pride is always loudly broadcast for all to hear, especially now with the unfortunate events going on in Ukraine. To me this chant will always be Russian, all else can call it anything they want, I really don't care!

[@aleksandarstavric2226]

@@dc10fomin65 thats because they are not a nation

[@annakarnaukh7874]

Give rest, O Christ, to thy servant with thy Saints: where sorrow and pain are no more; neither sighing, but life everlasting. Thou only art immortal, the Creator and Maker of man; and we are mortal, formed of the earth, and unto earth shall we return: for so thou didst ordain, when thou createdst me, saying, Dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return. All we go down to the dust; and, weeping o’er the grave, we make our song: alleluya, alleluya, alleluya. Give rest, O Christ, to thy servant with thy Saints, where sorrow and pain are no more; neither sighing, but life everlasting.

[@cynthiabailey6069]

So beautiful......

[@princerupert6161]

God's church is universal. To see here people making political statements is shameful.

[@yullanvalor3380]

This is because we need to have God without religion. Simple.

[@noahcrafting]

Amazing, also sang at Prince Phillips funeral

[@paulie_b_499]

Yes, by four soloists who were absolutely spellbinding.

[@Diamondmine212]

That's why the dear Queen also chose it for her funeral too.

[@patperrier4599]

So beautiful.

[@michaelattia9834]

Long live Byzantium. Long live the memory of Elizabeth The Great.

[@tonywilliams7104]

Beautiful farewell.

[@disaffected_malcontent]

thanks for uploading

[@bettyinarlington3845]

This one was the Orthodox Church Funeral Kontakion, edited by Walter Parratt

[@ernestbowen4054]

The text is part of the funeral rite in the Book of Common Prayer.

[@Londonfogey]

No it's not, in fact Queen Victoria's children wanted it for her funeral, but were blocked by an archbishop because it was not in the prayer book - prayers for the dead are not offered in strict Anglicanism.

[@MagnificentFiend]

@@Londonfogey Certainly not in the CofE prayer book. Maybe it's in the TEC or ACNA one?

[@ernestbowen4054]

The TEC added it in its 1976 version.

[@quite1enough]

I wonder who could be a composer. It sounds somewhat similar to Maxim Berezovsky style.

[@ulianakapty8520]

I believe it is Bortnyansky.

[@InfernoXV]

ish. it’s basically late 1700s.

[@Man_from_NY]

Can everybody write the text of this church song in English?

[@Shagovichok]

"Give rest, O Christ, to Thy servant with Thy saints: where sorrow and pain are no more; neither sighing but life everlasting. Thou only art immortal, the Creator and Maker of man: and we are mortal formed from the dust of the earth, and unto earth shall we return: for so Thou didst ordain, when Thou created me saying: Dust thou art und unto dust shalt thou return. All we go down to the dust; and weeping o’er the grave we make our song: Alleluia, alleluia, alleluia."

[@Man_from_NY]

Thank you

[@VictorPaz-s5c]

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[@Andrey_Ashaev]

Киевский распев звучит примерно так: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gaWYqKhuebeDipo, и весь мир об этом прекрасно знает. А здесь произведение представлено целиком: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fqGmfYOaa7OLraM, большая, однако, разница!

[@MrPAN52]

Magnifique! Ce chant orthodoxe slavon est commun aux Eglises orthodoxes russe et ukrainienne. Se demander si ce chant est "russe" ou "ukrainien" est aussi con et débile que se demander si le chant grégorien est "français", "italien", "espagnol" ou tutti quanti!! L'actualité et ses drames annihilent également l'intelligence et le simple bon sens...

[@jczartoryski]

It's unfortunate that it is mislabelled as Russian. The fact that the Kyivan chant was chosen is rather symbolic.

[@Simulacreage]

Please take a moment to study Russian history.

[@МайяЮрковська]

I am sorry. But probably you should also do the same. Kyiv is not Russia.

[@olehnayda8402]

​@@Simulacreage that they all the time saying that this is "russian" on all Ukrainian things? even territory?

[@OlegKaniovskiy]

@@Simulacreage it's scary when ignorant people combine Kyiv with russia ... it's only been around 400 years since these mоscovite cannibals rushed to my land ... how much blood is still there

[@ЧоловічийхорОрфейЛьвівськаполі]

Exactly! I must tell you all the simple truth about this Kant. This Kant belongs precisely to the Ukrainian spiritual heritage and has nothing to do with Russian culture, because it originates from the times of Kyivan Rus, whose heir is Ukraine. This world-famous Kontakion was written to the tune of a Kyiv chant. Ukrainian culture is so global and eternal that even noble royal ceremonies cannot do without Ukrainian works of art and music... Because our culture is an integral part of the global civilizational spiritual space. It is never too late to correct mistakes and misconceptions (or ignorance), even for the pedantic and traditionally canonical British. ======== Glory to Ukraine and glory to the Armed Forces!

[@AlexKorchevski]

Kievan is not russian Contakion. If you mean Kyiv, so, please, write Kyiv. And also not Kiev, but Kyiv.

[@Simulacreage]

This style of chant dates to the 17th century. Ukraine as a nation-state dates to 1917.

[@Ellein1]

@@Simulacreage Kyiv chant appeared before the 17th century. In the 17th century, it only spread on the territory of Russia, since Russia annexed Kyiv

[@CKPBialystok]

Kievan (and Kievan Rus) is something different than Kyiv...

[@AlexKorchevski]

@@CKPBialystok Yes, world use a lot of very offensive and not correct in some historical senses words. It was also a part of Soviet propaganda, that erase everything that could change a picture of “strong unity of republics inside”. That’s why some people really decided that Ukraine is a state only with 30 years of history but it is not true. There are offensive words like Kievan Rus, that you could imagine that connected with something else but it is an ancient Kyiv state. Kyiv was a capital in that time and Kyiv is a capital of Ukraine now. russia just get this word into herself to be claimed as a state with a pseudo historical background, but Ukraine is much older. To be honest, I discover in comments like yours, how people are blinded sometimes and how they don’t want to learn history by themselves at all. And it is a very hard lesson for humanity which it should learn - you need to be interested in correct version and preserving history.

[@olehnayda8402]

@@Simulacreage there was no russia in 17th century please learn history before write something

[@archiebald4717]

This is a nod to Prince Phillip.

[@Korivassilyou]

Also King Charles III is an admirer of Greece and his paternal family's Orthodox ties.

[@andriikurdybakha1363]

@Чоловічий хор "Орфей" (Львівська політехніка) Exactly! I must tell you all the simple truth about this Kant. This Kant belongs precisely to the Ukrainian spiritual heritage and has nothing to do with Russian culture, because it originates from the times of Kyivan Rus, whose heir is Ukraine. This world-famous Kontakion was written to the tune of a Kyiv chant. Ukrainian culture is so global and eternal that even noble royal ceremonies cannot do without Ukrainian works of art and music... Because our culture is an integral part of the global civilizational spiritual space. It is never too late to correct mistakes and misconceptions (or ignorance), even for the pedantic and traditionally canonical British. ======== Glory to Ukraine and glory to the Armed Forces!

[@morozkozolushka2419]

its everything to do with Russian Orthodoxism, nothing to do with the current Ukraine, learn ur history

[@kurdyk]

​@@morozkozolushka2419 Kievan Chant is not russian, but Ukrainian !!!! Kyiv(Kiev) is Ukraine !!!

[@markbenkendorf7672]

Kyevan Chant!

[@Gwynnfevar12]

Kievan means Ukrainian. Not any russian.

[@Shagovichok]

But this chant is song on any Russian orthodox funeral. Oups.

[@Ellein1]

Not only Russian. There is Orthodoxy in Ukraine, isn't it?

[@olehnayda8402]

@@Shagovichok football as gave was invented by russions not British because they play it - your logic

[@markbenkendorf7672]

Kyevan...

[@ЧоловічийхорОрфейЛьвівськаполі]

Exactly! I must tell you the simple truth about this Kant. This Kant belongs precisely to the Ukrainian spiritual heritage and has nothing to do with Russian culture, because it originates from the time of Kyivan Rus, whose heir is Ukraine. This world-famous Kontakion was written to the tune of a Kyiv chant. Ukrainian culture is so global and eternal that even noble royal ceremonies cannot do without Ukrainian works of art and music... Because our culture is an integral part of the global civilizational spiritual space. Even for the pedantic and traditionally canonical British, it is never too late to correct errors and misconceptions (or ignorance). ======== Glory to Ukraine and glory to the Armed Forces!

[@Isashadow]

Not Russian cant, but Ukrainian. Kyiv is the capital of Ukraine. If it's Kyiv cant, it's definitely not Russian. Kyivan Rus is Ukraine. Russia is Muscovy.

[@joelwu2254]

OK bro 👍

[@orthodoxspain]

Се повѣсти времѧньнъıх лѣт . ѿкуду єсть пошла рускаӕ земѧ . кто въ києвѣ нача первѣє кнѧжит и ѿкуду рускаӕ землѧ стала єсть. Does this ring a bell?

[@thetrueukrainian]

@@orthodoxspain initially, what is nowadays Ukraine, was called руська земля

[@orthodoxspain]

@@thetrueukrainian not according to the present borders, of course. It’s a anachronistic to say that Rus was Ukraine or Russia or Soviet Union or whatever. Kievan Rus was Kievan Rus whether one likes it or not.

[@sfrancino6190]

This was composed by Nikolai Bakhmetev, who was born in the Saratov district of Russia and died in St. Petersburg, and it was adapted from the composition of Alexei Lvov, who was born in St. Petersburg and served as the Maestro of the Russian Imperial Court. It is sung today by Orthodox Christians throughout Russia, Ukraine, and the entire world.

[@dieselodesa]

Russian? Kiev is russian city?

[@markbenkendorf7672]

Kyiv is Ukraine.

[@TheCulturedThug]

Yes.

[@dieselodesa]

@@TheCulturedThug F.Y. farben orc

[@morozkozolushka2419]

its a Russian orthodox Christian chant back when Kiev was considered Russia and the origin of Russia, if u look at history Kiev Rus was then moved to Moscow, so what remained was an idea of a great nation in the modern Kiev

[@PavelBader]

Yes

[@ВладГлухов-л7р]

RUSSIAN Kontaktioon for the Departed. Not ukrainan

[@NineSeptims]

The exact origin of the Kontakion of the Departed is not definitively known, but it is believed to have developed in the Byzantine Empire during the early centuries of Christianity. The hymn is attributed to St. Romanos the Melodist, a hymnographer of the Byzantine Church who lived in the 6th century. St. Romanos is renowned for his contributions to Byzantine hymnography, and although the exact authorship of the Kontakion of the Departed cannot be confirmed, it is often associated with his name. The Kontakion of the Departed is not specifically Ukrainian in origin. It is part of the broader tradition of Eastern Orthodox liturgical hymnography that transcends national boundaries. While Ukraine has a rich tradition of Orthodox Christianity and has contributed significantly to the development of liturgical music within the Eastern Orthodox Church, the Kontakion of the Departed is not exclusively Ukrainian. The hymn is sung in various Eastern Orthodox churches, including those in Ukraine, Russia, Greece, Serbia, Romania, and other countries with Orthodox Christian communities. Its origins are generally traced back to the Byzantine Empire, which encompassed regions that are now part of modern-day Greece, Turkey, and the broader Eastern Mediterranean region.

[@oleksii1192]

Not Kievan but Kyivan

[@rmichaelzachary8574]

Kiev from the brothers (Ki)i, Sch(e)k, and Khore(v) K-I-E-V. WHETHER ONE ACCEPTS THE VARANGIAN OR KHAZARIAN NARRATIVE IT WAS FOUNDED AS A RUSSIAN CITY AS K-I-E-V OVER ONE THOUSAND YEARS AGO. There is historically no such place as "Kyiv" as the misspelling would violate Ruthenian rules of grammar WHICH FORBID FOLLOWING THE CONSONANT K WITH A HARD VOWEL. When KIEV is mentioned in Byzantine chronicles in the ninth centh century, it is referred to as KIEV the capitol of ROSIYA, RUSSIA. And historically the name of the city has been spelled K-I-E-V since its founding. It was a Russian city LONG BEFORE it found itself in a ukraine (oukraina) - borderland, march, frontier. It was a Russian metropolis historically, with a Russian brotherhood, and a Russian academy before it was reunited with the North (the rest of RUS') as a consequence of the Pereyslavl Pact (seventeenth century). It was in Kiev at the academy of the Russian Brotherhood where the term "RUSSIA" WAS FIRST FORMULATED IN THE SIXTEENTH CENTURY. Even such figures as the Cossack hetman Vygovsky referred to the city as K-I-E-V, the CAPITOL OF RUSSIA, of which he styled himself the king (Treaty of Hadiach). The concept of a Ukrainian nation or nationality only emerged in the 1840s when GREAT RUSSIAN liberal "thinkers" Kostamarov and Dragomanov concocted it. Prior to that no one in their right mind spoke of a Ukrainian nation or nationality. Kostamarov's and Dragomanov's ideas where only embraced by a handful of the liberal minded gentry of Southern Russia, many of whom had no Ruthenian roots (Maximovich et al). The mass majority of the common people rejected the idea as nonsensical as they had historically referred to themselves as "Russins," "Little Russians," "Russkie," "Rusichi" AND THEY IDENTIFIED THEIR COUNTRY AS RUS'. Only in the 1870s did failed students seize upon the contrived ideas of Kostamarov and Dragomanov and begin a semiliterate nationalist movement with seditious intentions before being expelled to Austrian occupied Ruthenia, Galicia, an area historically known as "RED RUSSIA" - CHERVONAYA RUS' - never considered part of any ukraine (borderland). The Austro-Hungarian secret police weaponized Ukrainian nationalism brutally using it to put down a Russian awakening which had been occuring in that empire among Ruthenians, Slovaks and others, culminating in the world's first concentration camps and program of state sponsored genocide at such places as Talerhoff. After the fall of the Austro-Hungarian empire this genocidal strain of hate and pseudo ethnography was developed by anti-semites (pogrom leaders) and terrorists like Semyon Petlyura and Stepan Bandera, before eventually being coopted by Hitler and used by his race theorists as part of his drang nach osten. There is nothing laudatory or historically authentic about Ukrainian nationalism - it is Ruthenian NAZI-ism. Thus, this is a Kievan Kontakion (Greek "Kontakion") of the Russian Orthodox Church (nothing "Ukrainian Orthodox" existed prior to 1918 and even then it was fostered by the Bolsheviks to undermine Russian Orthodoxy founded by St. Vladimir in Kiev in 988AD). And Kiev was known as the "mother of Russian cities" long before it was part of any ukraine (borderland): St. Nestor of the Kiev Caves makes this clear in the Primary Chronicles.

[@Caesar88888]

its Ukrainian not russian. by the way vladolf poopin is loosing

[@Not-Impressed..1821]

It is called Russian Kontakion. I understand that politics hurt your feelings, but no one cares.

[@ДианаБогданова-ж1щ]

Orthodox, Rossian!

[@Peter-ov6xh]

The Ukraine fanatics are quite insane with their insertion of their Kyyyyiiiiiv fixation into a video about the Queen's funeral, of all things.

[@leoiwaskiw4051]

No, they are not "Ukraine fanatics." They ae simply Ukrainian who do not want Russi stealing their history and culture.

[@aleksandarstavric2226]

@@leoiwaskiw4051 No they are fanatics , Kiev is Russian history and culture - there was no ukranians back then - that's not even a nation

[@aleksandarstavric2226]

that's right

[@Londonfogey]

I believe the correct BBC pronounciation is 'Keeeeeeeeeeeev.'

[@Korivassilyou]

It should be Kyivan in today's accepted orthography.

[@NineSeptims]

The exact origin of the Kontakion of the Departed is not definitively known, but it is believed to have developed in the Byzantine Empire during the early centuries of Christianity. The hymn is attributed to St. Romanos the Melodist, a hymnographer of the Byzantine Church who lived in the 6th century. St. Romanos is renowned for his contributions to Byzantine hymnography, and although the exact authorship of the Kontakion of the Departed cannot be confirmed, it is often associated with his name. The Kontakion of the Departed is not specifically Ukrainian in origin. It is part of the broader tradition of Eastern Orthodox liturgical hymnography that transcends national boundaries. While Ukraine has a rich tradition of Orthodox Christianity and has contributed significantly to the development of liturgical music within the Eastern Orthodox Church, the Kontakion of the Departed is not exclusively Ukrainian. The hymn is sung in various Eastern Orthodox churches, including those in Ukraine, Russia, Greece, Serbia, Romania, and other countries with Orthodox Christian communities. Its origins are generally traced back to the Byzantine Empire, which encompassed regions that are now part of modern-day Greece, Turkey, and the broader Eastern Mediterranean region.

[@ВалентинСтанков-ю1г]

Kievan Chant is not russian, but Ukrainian !!!! Kyiv is Ukraine !!!

[@markbenkendorf7672]

Kyiv is Ukraine. Kyiv!!!

[@chrispalo5122]

Kievan chant is a style of Russian chant.

[@didi-if2vo]

UKRAINIAN 🇺🇦

[@aleksandarstavric2226]

This is a russian chant wtf

[@александрпименов-я6т]

Ну пипец! Так насрать украине даже после смерти!

[@VictorPaz-s5c]

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[@VictorPaz-s5c]

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[@VictorPaz-s5c]

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