European Championship Artistic Final 2023 Yaman vs Heinrich

Individual Artistic Division European Championship 2023 Antalya Final.
Production Kozoom/ Commentary: Jop de Jong & David Keller
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[@kozatas]

Congratz to both of them. Thanks for the commentators, knowing both of them are competitors adds more to their comments.

[@fyshfysh]

intriguing sport, never knew it existed. excellent commentary made it very easy to follow, thanks to everyone involved

[@TrondArneAusdal]

Very exciting. Ive never seen this before. Excellent commentary that made me understand what was going on.

[@Ersin_Dogan]

Very good commentary, easy to follow, entertaining and informative.

[@RidleyMMA]

Truly amazing play. Ive never seen this before but the production and the commentary makes this REALLY easy to follow and super enjoyable. Love it.

[@wasimhelwani2402]

I tried this before a few times... let me tell you how difficult it is what they are doing if you have not tried it yourself.. they are making miracles on that table 😨

[@nikolauskogelbauer7019]

Very nice commentary, big thanks David and Jop 😃

[@ethangorman5685]

The felt is so fast it looks crazy, what an interesting billiards variation

[@Ν11-φ9ρ]

Honestly… 3 cushion billiards, all the tricks shots, exhibition shots and artistic figures are just so beautiful to watch, LOVE it to bits ❤️ This sport feels both high class tradition and futuristic at the same time Crazy stuff and utmost pleasurable to watch

[@Mogwai-z9f]

Star Wars Billiards.

[@Krushard]

Would be fun to see someone with this background pulling a crazy shot in a 10-ball match.

[@RockSpoon123]

Efren Reyes has a very deep background in 3 cushion!

[@hijtohema]

@@RockSpoon123 Hardly. I couldn't find a ranking (not above 1750. That's approximately how far I went down the ranking) or any tournement results of him in 3 cushion. He isn't ranked even though he is somewhat active in 3 cushion (He was knocked out 40-15 in the last 16 at the East Asian Games last month.) He plays it occasionally (without much result it seems) but that's about it.

[@ewald59]

One of the commentators (Jop de Jong) occasionally plays pool as well. And Florian Kohler (the Venom) plays trickshots on both billiard tables and pool tables.

[@zodiactauruss]

Bu kategoride bizi yıllardır onurlandıran Hacı Arap Yaman'a sonsuz teşekkürler. Endless thanks to Hacı Arap Yaman, who has honored us in this category for years.

[@uzeustosun]

Beautiful performance. Bravo Yaman.

[@crack_squirrels]

The commentary on this is fantastic. Had no idea what carom was and the depth and approachability is brilliant

[@noworries864]

Really enjoyed watching. Congratulations to the deserved winner!

[@ergunkaradag8727]

Selamlar. Helall olsun hocam. Allaha emanet olun. Bizi gururlandırdın.❤🇹🇷💚

[@walaxx100]

This discipline is incredible

[@seyficandulger3355]

I am proud of youuu, we are thee beeeestt in the world billiards.. TURKEY... Saygıner Semih and Tasdemir Tayfun and Arap Yaman Hacı etc.... You are so big men... viva!!!

[@lyubimstavitrakomclan3599]

Bro not really… Fedor Gorst, FSR, Jason Shaw, Efren The Magician Reyes, SVB… Russian, Spaniard, Scottish, Filipino, American… where’s Turkey? No disrespect, great country, but not the best in the world billiards, not even close

[@arhansoncan7909]

@@lyubimstavitrakomclan3599 The ones you are talking about are pool players, not 3 cushion or Artistic Billiard players. So it would not be the great way to judge. All types of billiards are different from each other .

[@danender5555]

@@lyubimstavitrakomclan3599 3 cushion/Artistic Billiards/Carom, it is completely different billiards game, different table, different balls... Turks are on the top at this billiard game.

[@hemmojito]

What a finesse player Yaman is

[@dazdaz105]

Never play for cash with these guys. Amazing skill and years of practice

[@paultwiss199]

I have never seen this before - it was interesting and clearly needs massive amounts of skill

[@robertwoods1380]

Artistic !! Absolutel

[@SouzadeAlex10]

Helal olsun Hacı Abime Dünyanın En büyüğü olduğunu bir kez daha kanıtladı. Tebrikler Abi.👋👋👋

[@mowfee5118]

I'm really enjoying the final. But could you please add more adverts. I don't think watching the same 3 after every setup is enough. Thank you.

[@f.w.7843]

No ads for me at all. Just use an adblocker.

[@86niisan8686]

@jop de jong : to hit - 3rd person present tense = he hits - 3rd person past tense = he hit not he hitted... thats a very dutch thing to do... putting ED after every english verb for past tense. hit, throw, shoot ... basically everything with a ball or ballsport doesnt get -ed at the end in past tense.

[@terryostype9099]

I've never heard of this before, it's so engrossing...plus Yaman looks like an older Tom from Succession!

[@colincolenso]

It would make sense to reduce a point for each attempt, rather than make a 3rd attempt the same as a first attempt.

[@itsprochy]

I see where you're going with this, but if they get it right 1st time i think there is some luck involved. Never played any carom but I guess part of the skill is the ability to adapt on the fly. You play a shot, observe the result and go "Aah, the cloth is a little too slick, lemme aim more there" and then nail your second try. So I guess both formats would be ok, but this one works pretty well IMO.

[@CinAli2116]

For each player there are too many shots and possibilities to make the score. Even if the player is played long time, there are still figures that he/she did not try in the tournaments. Even the player try the shots in the practices, the tournament pychology and stress are the changer factors for the players. So that, the first attempts are usually see the possible outcomes after the hitting the ball that what in his/her mind. Second attempts are making sure that the changes effect correctly and the third one is the actual shot. If you noticed Heinrich at a point, I don't remember the exact time, he let go the second attempt. Because he saw that he won't gonna make it. Although the outcomes are predictable, spin, speed, stroke power and the height level of the cue is changes the outcome very easly. Most of time they are object the referee to make sure the balls are in the correct places.

[@lntrlp4936]

I kind of like your thoughts. I was initially thinking that if the first player gets it in one try, then the opponent must do it in one try. If the first player takes three attempts, then the opponent can steal the point by hitting in less than 3 shots. That would create a very dramatic game, in my opinion.

[@ewald59]

@@lntrlp4936 that would be cruel

[@tigerchills2079]

1:12:52 this is a valid shot, even though it was tricky to see. we do see at the end of the replay, that the cue ball is spinning with left english. with that in mind, we had: short cushion, long cushion counter spin, short cushion, red. if we were hitting the long cushion first, we would go around the table counter clockwise.

[@ddfann]

I've never seen this version of Billiards before, very interesting.

[@Yogi2263]

Marvin is young and the future of Artistique

[@ykb2414]

Bravo Yaman

[@Bet10zan]

Çok tebrik ediyorum yaman ustam mükemmelsin 🇹🇷❤

[@sargentomor4019]

Very good. Amazing commentary

[@jayandreas1131]

Beste Jop, gratis lesje Engels: bij did en didn’t moet je het hele werkwoord gebruiken. Aan did en didn’t horen we namelijk al dat het over de verleden tijd gaat. Dus ‘Did he make it?’ ‘I didn’t think so.’ En geen ‘Did he made it?’ ‘I didn’t thought so.’ Verder genoten, hoor. 😁 PS de ush in cushion klinkt hetzelfde als in push.

[@JohnSuave]

This is wild man

[@enginakbas528]

Yaman Ustaya saygılar

[@000Emir]

1:33:12 başkanım haha abi ❤ Tebrik ederim

[@ihsanersoy2383]

Hacı Arap Yaman 🤴🏻🏆💎⭐👏

[@Mogwai-z9f]

Most people on this planet don't realize how difficult 3 cushion billiards can be.

[@anthurion1]

I tried this, but it was very challenging. The lack of both arms, and the lack of a pool table made the challenge even more difficult. Hats off to these two players!

[@ronnieherd9247]

You should have persisted because that isn`t a pool table.

[@anthurion1]

@@ronnieherd9247 I gave up after I lost both my legs in a Pickleball incident

[@Ν11-φ9ρ]

honest to God, I have seen with my own eyes someone play this game that had an accident and lost his left arm and left leg .... Ya know what? He was Allright !

[@jadezee6316]

elegant competition...

[@aspanon1560]

fascinating. who invents the plays? how large is the roster?

[@samuelawp]

Tebrikler Hacı abi. Sevindik.

[@3g700]

Heinrichs shot at about 1:12:00 is obviously hitting the short rail first. If long rail were hit first - white ball would take different path hitting the opposite long rail significantly higher up - or differently put, closer to the player - given the white ball's obvious amount of left english / left side spin. Actually I'm a bit surprised that one of the guys commenting doesn't realize this, when it's quite easy to determine, simply by following the "route" or direction of the white ball after the first rail is hit.

[@RyanHarris77]

What has this world come to when people are stealing pockets from billiards tables. 😡

[@shannonbennett5692]

Dropped your pocket...

[@RyanHarris77]

@@shannonbennett5692 *looks everywhere in the immediate vicinity* 💀

[@danender5555]

Some people just miss their holes

[@RyanHarris77]

@@danender5555 sometimes I wish my dad would have missed my mom’s hole.

[@danender5555]

@@RyanHarris77 well, that might explain your strange uneasiness at the sight of a classic carom billiard table

[@shmurt11]

Would be interesting to see Efren "Bata" Reyes compete in this category. He casually pulls off these kinds of shots in high stakes money games

[@hellboyfbyao3]

13.06 Everybody is human, even Hacı Arap. Bu klasmanda nerede olduğunu en iyi bu cümle anlatırdı herhalde.

[@HayataDair]

Yaman bu sporun duayeni. Tebrikler kral

[@happimuchangi7551]

Very good commentary. Kudos guys.

[@MrPat1953]

Thank you excellent video

[@bw4593]

Never knew this was a thing, but super fun to watch!!!

[@murat-ow9sl]

Sıkılmadan seyrettim Yaman usta süper bir çok hareketi tek ıstakada yapıyor

[@lntrlp4936]

I'm curious how Florian would do in this type of competition?

[@ClassicBookASMR]

At 0.00 i thought "what is this!?" by 18.40 i thought "ohhhh, so close, he should have made that!" Love an immediately engaging sport!

[@dolphinmania2010]

Billiards meets etch a sketch. Amazing stuff from these two.

[@huseyndlklcn6159]

Tebrikler hacı yaman usta ,,,

[@lntrlp4936]

I think the ref desreves some credit. How critical it is to give each player the EXACT same ball placements must require some extreme attention to detail.

[@puzzzl]

Team Yaman

[@tonycannon1968]

Obscene amount of adverts, completely ruins the enjoyment of the match. Fantastic game, but adverts every couple of minutes is taking monetisation too fast beyond

[@diagne31]

out of context but Heinrich looks like Hell's Kitchen season 1 winner Michael

[@carlosrafforamirez7551]

Hermosas ejecuciones en tan difíciles posiciones, ambos jugadores muy buenos.

[@jaakkokunnas]

At 16 min, it's mentioned that kiss isn't allowed. But Artistic gameplay isn't the only one: same is true with Kaisa (Caroline in English), a Finnish form of billiards, potting balls with a kiss is not allowed.

[@colincolenso]

I tried this with my 8mm English Pool cue, now I have an 8 piece pool cue.

[@Ν11-φ9ρ]

😂🤣

[@firstlast3946]

Congr yaman. Tebrikler ve teşekkürler.

[@philcorrigan5641]

14:11 cool guys don’t look at explosions…or caroms

[@JonMurray]

1:05 shots fired a minute in hahah!

[@dothedo3667]

Better than artistic gymnastics at least

[@kevindean6600]

That’s some fancy cloth. Damn

[@HayataDair]

Neden oyuna başlama sırası değişmiyor. Ikinci oynayan çok daha şanslı. Rakibin hatasını ve nasıl sayı aldığını görüyor. Bence belki bir sayıdan sonra yer değişmeliler.

[@asleeds]

This is amazing. What happens if one player is left handed ? Are the balls set up on the opposite side of the table ?

[@ewald59]

They are set up in the mirror image.

[@ewald59]

Most figures for left-handed players are mirrored along the long axis of the table (the axis that is dividing the short rail in half). Some are mirrored along the short axis of the table.

[@GravellordNito]

1:06:45, me too, me too

[@serkanserkan2095]

helal olsun be..

[@murro16]

Sihir gibi oyundu tebrikler yamannmm

[@SaccoBelmonte]

I played 3 cue carom for 10+ years. It is waaaaaaaaaay cooler than pool.

[@andersljung1791]

When did this change the name from Carambole? Or is it not the same game?

[@muratsumer5925]

mükemmeldi bizleri gururlandırdın..dualarımız seninle

[@ser7ser7i]

Helal olsun.

[@pbjandahighfive]

Me when I first starting watching this: This is so stupid. Who thought this was a good idea? How is this competitive? How is this a sport? Me 1 hour 35 minutes and 38 seconds later: 🧐 What an incredible display. Yaman put out an amazing effort and really earned his win, but both of them played absolutely admirably. Truly masters of their craft. Also, hats off to the commentary; they really know what they're doing. Their efforts provide to the uninformed viewer such a wealth of information... ahem, not to me of course _dabs at the sweat on his brow_ I've been following the sport for utter aaages, but for the general masses they are truly a boon.

[@fatihpesen7775]

Yaman usta tebrikler

[@eskuelcan]

Bilardocumuz daha YAMAN çıktı. Tebrikler usta gurur duyduk ❤

[@jonescrusher1]

Every shot's a pressure shot.

[@Juancholoco710]

1:12:40 what an eye on that commentator. 👁️

[@dekordelisi]

Olay budur işte. Tebrikler... 👏👏👏

[@PostUp_Time]

DUDES HAVE LIKE 4-5 CUES EACH

[@jbradshaw7]

Never even heard of this before. I wonder how Ronnie O would do?

[@hijtohema]

He'd have a hard time learning it. Any form of carom billiards is completely different from snooker. And Artistic billiards and 3 cushion are the hardest and most difficult to master.

[@colincolenso]

It's interesting that these guys are using Back Hand English, though I suspect they aren't aware of it. It would benefit them by becoming more familiar with their pivot point if they aren't already. Seems with these cues and this heavy Cue Ball, the pure pivot point is around 7 inches from the bridge contact. In US pool it's 10 to 15, depending on tip end mass, in snooker, 12 to 15. In UK pool, also around 8 inches with 9mm tip, thinned brass ferule, due to light CB. This allows a player to alight through center CB then swipe for sidespin and hit the desired aim.

[@ewald59]

I suspect the are perfectly aware of the English they are giving.

[@colincolenso]

They have no concept of the principle of Back Hand English as an aiming / English method of adaptation, nor do you clearly.@@ewald59

[@홍길동-t5t1d]

24:04 흰공이 지그재그로 가네,, 개욱겨 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

[@wearemany73]

“Beautiful shot”…..😳okay…

[@jameslancefield9810]

did not have a clue what was going on. wanted to though

[@אלבןאדמי]

First time I hear and see?? What is that .. 😮

[@annoyingbstard9407]

A championship restricted to entrants who can be bothered to buy a waistcoat and bow tie and turn up.

[@filmcilik]

🧿

[@sjs260563]

what?

[@firedustman]

it's not french billard ?

[@typicalenglishguy4276]

At least you can never go in off 🎱 😂

[@HPDV6VIDEOGAMES]

If this is not ART!!!???

[@Rjak83]

They should start using TAOM

[@ewald59]

some of them do...

[@Rjak83]

@@ewald59 but they didnt.

[@vir7825]

I don't see the hole in this game.

[@earlycuyler8719]

Is being left handed a big disadvantage in this sport?

[@ewald59]

No, on the contrary. During the tournament, the spots from which the cue ball is struck will start to show a certain amount of wear, especially with massé and piqué shots The starting position of the shots for left-handed players is mirror image of that of right-handed players. Since there are few left-handed players, the spots will show much less wear.

[@ЕвгенийИльинов-ч6р]

Мэнни унизил бы Насима ещё страшнее, чем Марко.

[@tactical1981]

What in the beef goulash is this?