Amazon Fire TV Cube 3rd Gen vs Fire TV Stick 4k Max

[@TheMentalMKE]

Using the Alexa Home Theater Group ( 2 Echo Studio & 1 Echo Sub ) I went from the 2nd Gen Cube to the Fire stick Max because ARC Support. So, I can have my Xbox pushing Dolby 5.1. Now I got the 3 Gen Cube with my Xbox Series X in the input and I get Dolby Atmos now. I'm happy with the upgrade.

[@allanreaney5326]

Pin for awardvpn

[@MaximusTheChosenOne]

how do you connect your xbox to the speaker group??? I am looking to connect my 4k player to my amazon speaker group

[@TheMentalMKE]

@MaximusTheChosenOne Through the HDMI input in the Fire Cube. Then the Xbox series x. I set the Dolby Atmos to Headset Format and that pushes the Spatial surround sound for Dolby Digital plus.

[@MaximusTheChosenOne]

@@TheMentalMKE ohhh I thought you said you were doing it on the fire stick not the cube

[@taseti4803]

I would've loved to see the cube's speed in ethernet mode vs the wifi 6.

[@jan14788]

Cube has only 10/100 Ethernet, so pretty pointless to use that ... Wifi 6 / 6E should give you way faster connectivity

[@DipsyMum29]

I have the cube and just did a speed test with a ethernet cable vs my 1gb wifi 6e internet. Ethernet 97.5 mbps up and 95.0 mbps down Wifi 540.0 mbps up and 106.4 mbps down Needless to say we use the wifi lol

[@userslinx6865]

AMZ is tooo pooor to put a basic 1Gb ethernet... So no cube for me. At this price there always better unless stick to a "company".

[@SoSaysYou]

​@jan14788 what will you be doing that will take more than 100mbps on the cube?

[@fireinside1984]

@@jan14788 Ya that is lame. I have a 4k max with a gigabit ethernet adapter that also adds 3 usb ports. I would take my setup over the cube anyday.

[@iidogninjx]

The cube is just better. I love the inputs for cable boxes. Basically if you just stream get the stick but if you also have a cable box or a game console because you can get better speakers and surround sound.

[@MurfatlarAII0]

Many thanks for the demonstration. I think I’ll go for the cube+ gaming joystick… 💪🏼✅🎩

[@Kpaceguy]

Thanks for watching

[@paulcoker9097]

I was using the 2nd generation cube, now I'm using the new 3rd generation cube. So far I do not see much of a difference. I would say that the new 3rd generation cube is not worth 150 bucks after taxes. The older cube and the fire stick Max in my opinion are just as good.

[@amitprasad7113]

Update?

[@RyyRfhk]

Update

[@super_random_stuff]

Go for a cube if you have a Tv in the living room but go with the stick for guest rooms

[@scruffy7443]

Amazon Fire Cube connected to ethernet is faster than the laggy wifi Firestick, no choppy images for me.

[@zombos22222]

i play in the moment with my dire tv stick max and struggle in astrosmash from amico home because level 2 has slowdowns and framedrops but all other amico games working smoothly, do you think the cube 3 will improve the framerate? i need like 10 fps more for a smooth gameplay in this level 2 because its too much going on on the screen so the stick seems to weak and i need this extrapower for a smoother gameplay. I cant wait and just ordered one but still want to know if the cube is a huge or more a lil performance improvement. can you play astrosmash and make a side by side performance comparison for seeing a framerate difference?

[@TMCHL]

for the streaming 4K Max is all you need ! Great value for the money

[@fraddi]

Can I use the HDMI In-Port to connect to a soundbar?

[@Kpaceguy]

Yes

[@fraddi]

@@Kpaceguy Thank you. I have an old flagship 2009 Samsung and Im hoping to get this. I want to connect one hdmi port to the tv and the other the QN990B soundbar system and utilize the lan port

[@fraddi]

@@Kpaceguy Mr Pace, I bought it and tried it..... it didn't work ☹️

[@Kpaceguy]

@fraddi plug your devices to the sound bar and use the "out" of the sound bar to the "in" of the cube

[@fraddi]

@@Kpaceguy Mr Pace, I have the sammy HW-Q990b and I took your advice. I plugged the Amazon cube into HDMI 1 port, of the sound bar and used the HDMI Earc port as a pass through to deliver the signal to the TV and it worked. Im getting all the available sound options. THANK YOU!!!

[@vincelozano6925]

If I have Kodi or Cinema -- will these upscale those? Or does it not work with 3rd party side loaded apps?

[@Kpaceguy]

It upscales anything fed through it but your TV will do that itself

[@jameskearney4100]

How do you get the cube speaker to work with the programs?

[@quentinbroom5844]

Thanks! The cube's it!!

[@tdaddy3100]

I have an 2nd Gen fire tv cube it's has some features I like. ButI have to reboot it all the time and the speed it's that great

[@whatdoyouthinktodd]

The Max 4k can be hardwired. They make an adapter for it I run the same thing I don't use Wi-Fi.

[@jakeg1978]

Yes that's great but they chose not to go with gigabit eithernet

[@nashonabo821]

@@jakeg1978wtf what is it “fast”ethernet??

[@arealhebrew]

I have a 1 GB internet system also a Wi-Fi modem 6 with mesh routers Wi-Fi 6 so everything loads very fast that connects very fast.

[@LarryCovertjrCOVERT74]

I'm getting mine in December I have the second generation

[@quotetheraven9074]

If all the cube has to offer over a firestick goes is faster load times I wouldn’t waste my money on it the only reason I might give up my firestick eventually is so I can increase my storage. I don’t care about the media and photo side of the fire cube and I wouldn’t buy it for that either. So all it really does for me is one thing and I definitely think I can wait on that. Overall this Amazon trying to cash grab.

[@Carolinakid1984]

I see that now, regret getting the cube. I'm using my 4k max again

[@Colduck42]

Just picked it up..for the discount they are doing now..with the loose change I saved over the past year..its wifi 6 and I have the router to match so why not😄

[@kingjamesmayo8232]

Thank U Bro great video

[@Kpaceguy]

Thanks for watching!

[@arthursutton2492]

Hi great review but can the cube stream Xbox game pass because it says the max can

[@Kpaceguy]

It should but I've never tried it

[@johndoe7109]

Ughhh the price is steep for the cube but i want the best processing power available. I used 3rd party apps to stream but they get bogged down by my current tv stick. So the fire tv cube 3rd gen is the best of the best at this point right? Im willing to throw down $130 if the streaming experience is greatly improved. I already have two fire sticks. Time to upgrade

[@DR19X]

got the 4k max stick for less than $30 last year with a trade in deal and it is plenty fast. The cube gen 3 does not seem like a major upgrade over the 4k max. same ram, just "faster cpu" and alexa speaker with larger storage that can be had with usb drive on the 4k max. cluttering the remote with more button does not make sense.

[@M.V.P23]

I agree, although the Cube has some great features like built in Ethernet and USB, I still enjoy my 4K Max and as I mentioned in another comment, mine works faster than his. Maybe he has a ton of apps and there are so many variables when it comes to Wi-Fi connectivity this test was a little misleading. I don't think the average user is getting errors when trying to install Disney + and it only took me 17 seconds to install the Weather Channel, in his demonstration it took damn near 4x longer.

[@704lifestylecharlotte5]

Can you check if Amazon music plays in atmos with this cube

[@Kpaceguy]

It does if everything you have connected to it also supports Atmos

[@garymonz]

Will cube improve on buffering?

[@Kpaceguy]

@@garymonz usually that's a wifi thing

[@michelcouture7026]

My max i use with Ethernet trough an adapter that cost 20$ for 2 and have access to the usb hd.

[@SteveOfTheMountains]

Thanks for the knowledge. What Gen is the 4k max?

[@Kpaceguy]

Whatever the current/newest generation is. The latest model

[@troybrownentertainment2324]

Do you get Dolby Atmos with the 4k Max ?

[@Kpaceguy]

Yes

[@dougnykel7693]

The extra memory is nice, but the cube, not worth a$100, extra, if all you do is stream movies, and tv shows !!!

[@k2000kidd1]

One of the major flaws is the dongle sits behind the television not underneath. Or. Beside like a console i had mine connected to a Denon Receiver and the difference is night and day

[@wolfshanze5980]

I don't know if i'm living in crazy land with all the people wanting more and more and more buttons on the remote and thinking that's a great thing... frankly... to me, LESS IS MORE. My 2nd Gen FireCube has the "old" 2018 Alexa Voice Remote (2nd Gen) that basically just has directional circle, forward/back buttons, volume up/down and mute. Not much else. When I got the FireCube back in 2019, I had Cable TV and wished it had those channel up/down buttons on the current remote... back then I did... but now in 2022, I have long since cut the cord and will never need those channel up/down buttons again. It's like the remotes are REVERSE of what I wanted... I needed channel up/down buttons years ago when cable was a thing, but in 2022, I just don't need that anymore, i've cut the cord... now it's just cluttering up my remote with buttons I don't need... and don't even get me started on those four useless "shortcut" buttons to Netflix/Hulu, etc, that a lot of folks may not even have and even if they do, they can just skip directly to them with "Alexa, switch to Hulu". I'm sorry, but I'm a HUGE HATER on adding more and more and more and more buttons to the remote... screw that, give me the old remote that just has a few well placed buttons I actually use and I don't have to trip over a bunch of buttons I will never use.

[@MS7.7]

Can you pair the old remote to your new device? If so be it. I myself always use the netflix button and I love it. For the channel up and down you may not want/use it but others do so any extra feature is welcome but don’t take away features. I understand that its crowded but Amazon is evil in terms of tech. Fire/Alexa have early 2010 speeds in 2023 which is insane, they introduce new faster device like its a rocket but in fact its slower than Nokia phone. I extremely hate my echo show device for being so slow and the interface is so retarded even though its the latest generation. The only good tech they made is Alexa itself better than Google and Siri.

[@wolfshanze5980]

@@MS7.7 I did get the 3rd Gen Cube and the first thing I did was try my older remote with the new Cube... and YES, it does work... problem solved.

[@TheHandsomeman]

The fire cube, has 2015 tech, according to one youtuber.

[@Kpaceguy]

It's been "enhanced" over the years

[@TheHandsomeman]

@@Kpaceguy Has it though, I have just sent mine back, after one day. The video, was out of sync. On a brand new device, nooooo.

[@Kpaceguy]

@@TheHandsomeman like lip sync issues ?

[@TheIDontCarePodcast]

Great video

[@Kpaceguy]

I appreciate it

[@michaelhaney71]

The only thing I am concerned with is storage. With the apks I have side loaded I run low on storage on the 4K Max fairly quickly. Is there a significant greater amount in the cube?

[@Kpaceguy]

Yes and you can extend storage

[@Carolinakid1984]

You can extend on the 4k max with usb also, had it on mines and barely used any internal storage

[@michaelhaney71]

Thank you@@Carolinakid1984

[@M.V.P23]

This was SUPER subjective! Obviously, the Cube will be faster since it has Wi-Fi 6E and a Octo core processor, you must have buyer's remorse because it's only slight faster than the 4K Max which is 27 bucks right now. I NEVER received the error you did and mine is much faster than yours since it only took me 17 seconds to download the Weather Channel (Suspicious). Something is wrong with your test buddy. People watch this video with caution!!! You don't need a Cube to enjoy a FAST and Stable Fire TV experience. I got rid of cable and solely use my 4K Max to watch HD channels, Movies, Shows, and It works Great!

[@Kpaceguy]

Why would I have buyers remorse lol I use the cube in my living room and the stick in my bedroom. I plugged both up and i turned them on, that's it.

[@M.V.P23]

@@Kpaceguy Just saying this comparison seemed a little suspect or at the very least flawed. Don't discourage people from buying this GREAT $27 device. The 4K Max is fast, it's stable, and it's worth WAAAYYY more than the price it's being sold for.

[@Kpaceguy]

@misterpara5754 why would I discourage anyone. I have 3 firestick Max's. I simply plugged both in and opened up apps in real time and this is the result. Maybe a brand new max would perform faster but other than that, this is real world results

[@M.V.P23]

​@@Kpaceguy Sorry for assuming your intentions, but from the point of view of someone who is watching your video and not technical, you're basically saying don't buy this buy THAT. At least that is the vibe I got from your vid especially when you add extra sauce saying "this is embarrassing" insinuating the 4K Max is a slow device. All I'm saying is people don't have to buy the Cube which is 5x more money for a nice stable fast device.

[@Kpaceguy]

@misterpara5754 You're the first out of all the comments to express this feeling. I value it. But the video has been up for almost a year and I can't change anything now. I think both devices are great that's why I have both. I personally like the cube better. Some people don't. That's the point of this video is to help figure that out.

[@STeroidsnicca]

The cube is so smooth

[@lyns2541]

what does the usb do?

[@Kpaceguy]

Provide power to whatever you want to plug to it or add external storage

[@chrisy4011]

I get faster speeds through wifi. Over 400mbps. Hardwired means more wires ran and I already have wifi 6 mesh and modem/router. 1gb internet.

[@Carolinakid1984]

My 4k Max was never that slow. It depends on the speeds let's be real. Cube just has more storage

[@starlee83]

Is the network port gigabit?

[@Kpaceguy]

No

[@wolfshanze5980]

it's 10/100... you can LITERALLY get faster download speeds by using the (now upgraded) WiFi 6E on the FireTV Cube (3rd Gen)... the 2nd Gen Cube was WiFi 5.

[@chrisy4011]

@@wolfshanze5980 only if you have that technology and it's pricey, and not all isps provide those speeds or bandwidth. At least not my area.

[@ttube111]

I have two Echo 5th Gen Dots, will they sync with this new Cube? I also have a 4K Max Firestick. What appeals to me about the Cube is the fact you can change the input. But I am not sure it is worth £139 for one feature! If the price drops on Black Friday, worth considering.

[@Kpaceguy]

Yes they will pair together in Home Theater mode

[@jailanimajid6115]

Does the fire cube support 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz wifi?

[@Kpaceguy]

Yes

[@jailanimajid6115]

Thanks.

[@Lonerider1122]

I have a question, I have a LG C2 the OLED tv and it comes with Amazon tv, Apple TV, and all the same stuff this does, is there a point of buying the stick or cube?

[@Kpaceguy]

Not unless you want the smart ecosystem to control everything in your home

[@Lonerider1122]

⁠@@Kpaceguysorry but idk what smart ecosystem is what do you mean by that? like if you have more Amazon products ? like I have the Amazon echo studio but that’s really it

[@Kpaceguy]

@gabesuarez100 then no, you don't need a cube

[@Lonerider1122]

@@Kpaceguy thank you

[@Roof_Pizza]

How are they with black market movie sites? Right now I use a full blown laptop for streaming them.

[@Kpaceguy]

You can jail break it and download them all I'm sure

[@Roof_Pizza]

So, in other words don't bother as I can already just use a laptop. Thanks.

[@Kpaceguy]

@@Roof_Pizza basically

[@Roof_Pizza]

@@Kpaceguy Thanks again.

[@tbone5654]

@@Roof_Pizza Fire TV 4k max are still great to have, I have a new 4k Aero OLED laptop but why waste time plugging in all the time when you can have an F stick ready and waiting permanently slotted into the OLED TV or what ever you use. +you get the handy remote.

[@rabbwwb3591]

Getting 1 for Xmas I use a 4gig android box but this lloks way better hope I'm no downgrading lol

[@DonaldThompson-gd6cz]

Helpful

[@jerryzhang4833]

Above all that the fire stick has a significant advantage, which is you can carry it while you are traveling and use it in the hotel room's TV or some other place's TV away from home you have to live in. I don't think you want to carry something as big as a Fire TV Cube with you while traveling.

[@Kpaceguy]

Tv cube is no bigger most power banks

[@solooutlaw3]

I just bought one on sale for $100 wish me luck

[@brianaguiar913]

The HDMI in sells it for me.

[@steelgtr]

Picture quality difference?

[@Kpaceguy]

No

[@sid4tbd]

Anyone else is having trouble pairing their cube to their echo studio?

[@doc666ify]

Before I had a smart TV I used to have a smart stick like that and I found it would get extremely hot it burnt out and i got a replacement as it was under guarantee but the same thing happened again have you had issues with the stick like that? 😎

[@Kpaceguy]

Never ever

[@hlee5919]

My 1st gen stick fried on me.

[@Magicinstalls]

I see no difference in the remote design and eventually the cube Remote battery cover will start falling off also...

[@heavyweather4893]

No image quality review, firestick is not so great in terms of image quality compared to Samsung or Lg apps. What a bout the cube ?

[@Kpaceguy]

That's because apps have different video settings than HDMI. If you don't calibrate it, you'll think the apps look better.

[@heavyweather4893]

@@Kpaceguy How can i calibrate ?

[@Kpaceguy]

@Heavy Weather if you want a basic answer, you can find tips and tricks on KZbin. If you want to step up from that you can buy a calibration disc or file. If you want the best you can have a professional come over.

[@prophetseven728]

It basically was the same speed. If this was real time. Ya, cube was a little faster. But nothing to really notice. Shoot by the time I get all my Munches from the Kitchen both are at the same spot.

[@83n80y]

Huh? The install time was a HUGE difference. Of course, you can plan ahead and install while doing something else. However, if speed is important then it was night and day different. Sounds like you are rationalizing your purchase. Just wait for the Cube to go onsale on Prime Day ($109.99) and it's a no brainer.

[@prophetseven728]

@@83n80y They even made it faster now. It built into smart TVs. I just bought one for one of my Rentals.

[@83n80y]

@@prophetseven728 I'm sure they've optimized the Fire OS as well. The ones built into TVs isn't quite the same. Those rely on the TV's CPU, RAM, and GPU for functionality. The Cube is a dedicated streaming box. One of the features that doesn't get mentioned is its upscaling ability. I'm testing the Cube out. I'll let you know how it compares to a few other devices I have. 🙂

[@prophetseven728]

@@83n80y Nothing wrong with the cube. If it does everything you need. That is awesome. The one built in the TV does everything I need. It simple to set up. Seems to do the same as the other Firestick I have on my TV. And that one is just below the Cube. But the TV has more controls on the Controller. That about the only difference Ive seen so far.

[@geoffreyjoseph514]

sorry but 4k max stick is better value for money

[@stevenrichards2356]

Depends on the broadband strength

[@johnsnow7836]

@@stevenrichards2356 as long as you have speeds of 50 down , there’s no difference I upgraded to full fibre and I’ve not noticed anything different and I’m getting full speeds , with regards to speed on fire stick over the cube , unless you have multiple devices then yes speed does matter greatly, but if your using 1 or 2 then no , it is great on ps5 tho takes seconds to download huge games

[@DonnieDio]

Based on your preferences. For someone who values usability more, the cube would be better value for money.

[@erenitydiamonds3945]

No cube better then firestick

[@solooutlaw3]

Its Only $100 This week

[@jakeg1978]

i dont understand why eithernet is only 10/100 and not 10/1000

[@uf1978]

Why the annoying music, damn.

[@blackink43]

Very good video

[@Kpaceguy]

I appreciate it

[@TheNLHAZE]

Thanks bro great video 😊