Breaking Down The 2024 MAMA cuz It Was a Circus. (part-1)

[@favlam1408]

kpop stans are always like this. If their favs won, it's fair and square, if not, it's rigged, simple as that.

[@Evelyn2208Silalahi]

Not suprise

[@jin_xlmv]

Yeah in that way, it's rigged every single year💀

[@r.wy16]

fr and actually that's what made kpop famous but at the same time its cringe i saw and still seeing some fans behave like they r related to the artist and just try take over their live like judging at whatever they do

[@Queenkingdom-nu5jo]

@@favlam1408 but it's really rigged. Why they can't win global music shows, where global music shows can't be bribed & pay??? Why only in Sk? Because it's rigged all these times. Payolas!

[@helenalee0613]

@@Queenkingdom-nu5joyou people just throw payola around when something doesn’t go your way, it’s so funny and ridiculous. I have a lot of questions about your ridiculous statements but I can’t be bothered.

[@babyanie4673]

I'm so happy for Aespa they had an amazing year and deserved every award.

[@RomanHemet-c6l]

@@babyanie4673 I don’t think so

[@Queenkingdom-nu5jo]

@@babyanie4673 u mean paying cheap rig music show is desserving?🤡🤡🤭🤭 paid chart🤣🤣

[@babyanie4673]

@@Queenkingdom-nu5jo Supernova was literally on every chart for months besides magnetic no other song came close to its success.

[@Octa9on-s4n]

​@@Queenkingdom-nu5jo2024 is literally aespa's year, stay mad.

[@nishimlia]

bro mama is a waste of time imo like they just be giving trophies to anyone at this point. As an engene i hoped for enha to win the daesang , but dragging jimin is so wrong like he deserved it just as much as they did. Im surprised magnetic didn't win soty.

[@Shinshien-cg5jb]

Who won soty?

[@_JustArandomMultistan_]

​@@Shinshien-cg5jbAESPA's Supernova which was expected 🎉

[@Shinshien-cg5jb]

​​@@_JustArandomMultistan_ ok thanks i don't like any of the song but illit deserves though their song went viral but if illit had win this big3 stans would have dragged them saying hybe paid for it lol😭😂 they think anyone should be the winner except hybe artists

[@n8mare076]

​@@Shinshien-cg5jbthey even said payola for svt winning artist of the year ..

[@joonobug]

Exactly magnetic deserved SOTY that song was crazy

[@Idgaf_24]

Crazy that Bruno and rose got an award even if they weren't nominated for anything it's giving "oh Bruno Mars is hereee we have to please him and then took a random trophy and pasted a fancy title on it and gave it to him! It's such an unprofessional move the song is out of eligibility period and hadn't even nominated for any category

[@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq]

pretty sure they made up the category backstage

[@yomarysanchez1808]

@@Idgaf_24 the funny part is that rose had a face expression that she knew she would receive that award. Just a month of the song released.

[@BLINKWORLD-26774]

@@Idgaf_24 they won the award for global sensation. Whatever the thing was it was worth it lol because the collab did became the collab of the century. I would say DESERVED

[@Catnip3207]

Lmao i feel like they made that award so that bruno mars would have a reason to perform there.

[@nabilaalam5711]

@@BLINKWORLD-26774 True .

[@_JustArandomMultistan_]

NO ONE looked happy. Everyone looked like as if they woke up for work and sat in a 2 hour long meeting hearing someone yap

[@gavril.fdes31]

Tbh...it looked like they were paid to sit there lmao

[@Nu-SmZar]

@@_JustArandomMultistan_ maybe that's because it was a rented crowd 🤔 The MAMA has never been so dead.

[@bamgyuuu304]

9:57 Lack of live vocals for TxT?? Their live vocals for both Yeonjun's solo stage and the group one were LOUD. You could hear Yeonjun taking breaths and everything. And they were dancing hard choroes and live singing which is wild, but that's how TXT performs.

[@iamjustagirlintheworldd]

Fr. These people are just deaf atp😭

[@shreyatripathi7672]

Same right now kpop stans say anything about txt

[@itsme-cj3vd]

I am into kpop since 2018..not a single time I heard MAMA is NOT rigged ..but every fandom cheers when their idols win... even the fandoms boycotting MAMA got excited & mocked others when their idols won😂...So at last I get that MAMA has been always rigged but the fans & idols wants the daesangs no matter what

[@JChris21]

Fr!

[@niki4thgenitboy]

fr 💀

[@whenwedisco_disco]

Yes I have known about it way back in 2017 with exo

[@BLINKWORLD-26774]

Fr frrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

[@sylvia-r7]

Right? It’s only rigged when their favs don’t win. But keep quiet when their favs win. Make it make sense😂

[@LuvKpopforlife]

05:20 THIS.There's so many awards that sound the same/identical meaning but are handed to separate groups!

[@elesyeen]

Enhyphen fans need to get humbled so bad like jimin is not an unknown artist that y'all are surprised that he won💗Imagine teaching about voting to armys when we are voting on that app from a decade,they don't even know the difference between bonsang and daesang,bonsang voting results with points were shown when daesang's result was hidden,they never showed who is leading

[@lr2ldn]

Girl shut up.

[@Bloom_Jiya]

True 🙌

[@Lolz365]

@@lr2ldnthat’s all you can say😭

[@Shinshien-cg5jb]

​@@lr2ldn shutting up someone for speaking facts lol

[@tyrantmaloka1273]

​@@lr2ldnyou shut up enhypen is not on bts level accept that.

[@THELABELOFFICAL]

Girl im so glad you talked about MAMAS us stage like what was they thinking.. they should’ve hosted it at SOFI

[@chokofudgemel1119]

Which idol that said MAMA was just a popularity contest and they only gave out awards to stop the 'kids' from fighting? Yeah couldn't be said any better than that lmao

[@panchratnakumar928]

That was G-dragon

[@jasin1562]

Katseye did AMAZING😭

[@nuellawayne2308]

They left me gagged for real just wished vcha were there

[@jungkookluvie]

I'm so happy that Jimin won, he deserved a lot. Thank you very much to the armys who worked hard to vote for him!! 💜✨

[@RomanHemet-c6l]

Are you sure? I think ENHYPEN deserve a better than jimin

[@Jane-cd4qh]

​@@RomanHemet-c6lThen you should have voted for them. You guys voted for them

[@MOARMYForyou]

​@@RomanHemet-c6lbelieve me they didnt

[@RomanHemet-c6l]

@@Jane-cd4qh is because you guys were cheating so you need to 🤫🤫🤫

[@RomanHemet-c6l]

@ girl who are you even talking to?

[@Shinshien-cg5jb]

Do they think jimin is a nugu artist he is a member of bts 💀 bts may be on hiatus but all army's aren't they have been winning this awards for 7years for some reason

[@_JustArandomMultistan_]

That's what im saying. Why do people think ARMY's are laying low in the bushes? 😂

[@simply_barona]

​@@_JustArandomMultistan_ys have a reputation of voting ladt minute to😂

[@theredevils3029]

Jimin is the worst kpop idol ever 😅

[@_JustArandomMultistan_]

​@@simply_baronawhat?

[@babystarcandyss]

​@@theredevils3029cry harder

[@wondeukiforwonderfullifeu_8137]

MAMA in japan 2024 are basically just Bigbang concert😂 and I love it

[@Nu-SmZar]

@@wondeukiforwonderfullifeu_8137 it was basically the Big Bang comeback promo 🤣🤣

[@love_onedoorful]

BOYNEXTDOOR's 2024 MAMA stage is so gooood, they really know how to put on a great performance, wow ... Treasure and Youngji left me speechless too 😭

[@7stardustgolden]

the funniest thing that happened was kpop fans accusing that armys dont know voting like are u serious rn its the fandom that can win any fan voted category in the last min it was surprsing that mostly only armys knew the criteria I am seeing many explaining to other fandoms how it works bonsang and daesang are 2 diff categories its insane how armys managed to get 4 bonsangs and also the daesang but not surprising bts has been winning that award since its origin Jimin is literally one of the most famous member of BTS, his songs are charting, who hasnt left global 50 top 10 since release which is more than 4months

[@sanazamir8341]

Agreed bro especially engenes they are so delusional like we armies have been dealing with this for six years

[@7stardustgolden]

@@sanazamir8341 saying you dont know voting to a fandom who won the same award for continuous six years is insane

[@swatantrimukherjee3033]

Nah! TXT did not lip sinc!!! It was really clear they were using live vocals, Yeonjun even got tired but still kept singing!

[@iamjustagirlintheworldd]

Literally. Look at YJ's GGUM performance lmfao. He looked tired but he still sang

[@DP-mv7ph]

Before anyone says Aespa winning is paid/rigged, here is a fun fact for you. Not a single SM artist has ever won song of the year at the MAMA awards and aespa is the very first one to do so. It is a well-known fact in the Kpop community that SM and MAMA (Mnet) do not have the best relationship with each other. Ask any EXO and SNSD fans and they will tell you. So the claim that its rigged/paid makes no sense. SM even boycotted the MAMA awards at one point bcs they thought that the voting was unfair.

[@btsismyoxyjin2013]

It was obvious Supernova will win so whoever think it's rigged is absolutely delusional😂

[@Catnip3207]

People were baffled because magnetic was a hit internationally that it even made it into billboard 100 which only very very few kpop groups were able to get included. It was a major hit globally. But MAMA SOTY focuses more on local success than global, hence, supernova won. Many people looked at it in global context, that's why.

[@Nayeon_stan385]

@@btsismyoxyjin2013yeah but I think Armageddon should’ve won SOTY

[@adjadenisedoumbia9305]

Aespa deserved every award they've won

[@btsismyoxyjin2013]

@@Nayeon_stan385 I love Armageddon more than Supernova as well. But according to success Supernova deserve to win.

[@IstolejksbAnAnAmIlK]

I honestly don't blame engene's for throwing a tantrum The categories are so weird and confusing now, even I was confused while voting 😭💀

[@niki4thgenitboy]

fr 😭😭

[@shapinaak]

That doesn't justify their hate and insults towards Jimin. Saying that they wish he get's sh0t in the military or sent to n0rth k0rea is crossing the line. Yes, mnet made it confusing, but it's not Jimin's fault that 98% of Enhypen's fans are illiterate.

[@MixutiniPark]

Complaining about confusing rules and voting guides is one thing, but claiming that another hardworking and successful artist did not deserve to win or that the result was rigged is another. Engenes are doing the second one. Some of them say that they are not attacking Jimin, but there are tons of engenes who are directly insulting Jimin and some of them are going after MAMA for "rigging the award" which implies that Jimin was not the real winner. Both are disrespectful.

[@IstolejksbAnAnAmIlK]

@MixutiniPark Ik engenes are not doing any good, and I'm not even talking about it here I'm talking about the non - toxic one's who arent hating, and were genuinely confused 💀

[@joonsdimple]

You don’t blame engenes for attacking Jimin and accusing Armys of cheating & buying votes? If this was the other way around you wouldn’t be saying this. You can be sad that your fave didn’t win but the way they acted was wild and there’s no excuse to wish d3ath on him.

[@prestonroberts8258]

Enhypen was leading in the bonsang poll cause armys split votes among 5 members to try to give them all an award but with the daesang poll, votes weren't public and sense only one artist can win the daesang, we decided to all vote for one member so at least a BTS member will win it and we decided to vote for Jimin sense he has the most hype right now with his comeback and everything. Its that simple and idk why Enhypen stans aren't getting that

[@niki4thgenitboy]

ok

[@Gaogaog]

@@prestonroberts8258 They literally didn't understand the rules but were focused on hating jimin.

[@Justyouraveragegirl09]

@@Gaogaog they just need to hate someone

[@Nu-SmZar]

@@prestonroberts8258 why won't kpopies learn from army??? Army is organised and has one goal....to keep BTS on top. Army puts bias aside and makes sure BTS remains on top....no matter who their bias is.

[@onakononkonyana]

​@@Nu-SmZarleave them. I know this might sound wrong or greedy but if they won't learn from ARMY then let's let them be so that BTS will win over and OVER again until they learn.

[@alesonu]

I think engenes really need to do their research. They are getting offended about a FAN choice award!! When it comes to fan, are they seriously claiming that armies would not vote or support their idols?? Even though our boys were going to do their mandatory military service they worked SO hard to leave behind music for fans to enjoy and do they think Fans wouldn't acknowledge or return that love?? One thing armies are exceptional at is making sure that our boys get what they deserve. We armies have learnt from experience that BTS only has us and so we devote ourselves to give them what we can. If BTS did not win, we would not go attack the ones who did win. We would just feel we did not work hard enough. And if Engenes are angry, come at armies. DO NOT HARASS JIMIN!!

[@caleec]

Every music awards show in Korea will always be rigged in people’s eyes whenever their stans didn’t win. That’s just the way it is. The nominated artists are all very talented in their own rights.. there’s just no point in weighing who’s more talented because it’s just a matter of opinion. But bts winning over and over again is because of army. Army.. no matter how toxic others say they are.. is still the most powerful, dedicated and supportive fandom. The fandom is still the key to success.. the relationship between bts and army is really just super strong. Jimin deserves the daesang in my opinion.. who is a very much globally successful release. If you didn’t like “who”..it doesn’t mean it’s not a great song. The charts and over a billion spotify streams in not even 6 months.. will speak for it’s success and why it deserves the daesang. It’s still charting as we speak.

[@Justyouraveragegirl09]

@@caleec thank you. Finally someone is saying this… 💜

[@caleec]

@ imagine army had to split votes and was still able to give bonsang to 4 out of 5 nominated members. Army is so disappointed about that but giiirlll i think that is no easy feat so army should be proud. I’ve said this before but army could move mountains for bangtan. But bangtan’s world also revolves around army. Bangtan and army are just madly inlove with each other and it’s wonderful.

[@Queenkingdom-nu5jo]

Then it's Magnetic every countries sang it not just in a small local country like Korea. Supernova doesn't exist in western country😂😂. They just gave it to Aespa because it's already their 4th year nearly will disband🤣🤣

[@yomarysanchez1808]

Ppl think jimin or bts is a regular kpop group… they thought in the military hiatus they will disappear… guess what bts hasn’t peak yet.

[@ZareSamo-cn8pr]

It s Ehaypen olso on Hybe ?

[@ZareSamo-cn8pr]

Bts it overhipe end Ehaypen defintly deserve dat reward 😊

[@onakononkonyana]

​@@ZareSamo-cn8prbro fix your grammar 💀

[@Ryyluvspiwon]

@@onakononkonyanaright im so confused rn but i dont think they speak english

[@Ryyluvspiwon]

@@ZareSamo-cn8pryes

[@Shinshien-cg5jb]

Exactly enhypen fans don't know the diff btw bonsang and daesang the one enhypen was leading was bonsang not daesang one it wasnt relevealed they are attacking the wrong fandom plz stop dragging him 😭 he deserves it he pre recorded his music for us before enlisting yall comments are very harsh

[@Lolz365]

the way they are crying like enhypen deserved it, they worked hard blah blah , That sentence sounds nothing more than a sympathy gainer😂. Every artist nominated worked hard 😭

[@Shinshien-cg5jb]

​@@Lolz365 ikr they be like bts have been getting awards let others win!!! Why don't they deserves it too do they have unfair streams, sales domestic global ranking either ? Didn't they worked hard to get these many achievements everyone deserves but bts weirdos💀

[@Lolz365]

@@Shinshien-cg5jb lol their logic 😂bts shouldn’t win this award bcs they have been winning it for years😭. Bts always appreciate all the awards no matter how many they have got it, They are always happy thankful especially for fan voted awards✨. It is evident from jimin’s message on weverse , seeing them happy encourages us more to win awards for them💜

[@Shinshien-cg5jb]

@@Lolz365 they have always supported their juniors too even if they didn't receive one 🥹only if these kpoopies hadn't ruined this

[@ville-c4u]

no one cares

[@Tooba-K123]

Supernova truly deserved SOTY. Might be the first SM groups to win a big Mama award in years. Big Bang really saved the stage this year. Rose should've pushed for a big performance given the popularity of APT. Some Armys and Engenes really need to chill out, its understandable Armys were gonna win as they're more senior when it comes to streaming and understanding the criteria but they also need to understand the disappointment of their juniors about the sudden change in rules which doesn't mean that either Jimin or Enhypen didn't deserve the award.

[@stargazing2628]

Their juniors, those so called junior fans are sending death threats to Jimin, saying that he should be sent to NK, over an award and y'all expect Army's to be kind and respectful. Comeback when Enhypen stops tanking and have even a quarter of Jimin's success.

[@ajlee2168]

tbf its not armys job to 'understand' them, why do i care about the feelings of a fandom im not apart of? stans just need to accept who won and lost, instead of insulting the artist, or the fandom for literally just doing what they're supposed to do. but i guess thats impossible for stans, idk.

[@MixutiniPark]

You are really telling a fandom to "understand" their juniors while those juniors are harrassing and defaming that fandom's artist for winning an award? Again, the rules never changed. Many people just did not understand how the voting works and that there were 2 separate voting categories. Also, Armys voted as unified front in the Daesang category. Good luck beating that.

[@BabyDanny_]

@@stargazing2628 Can you stop being ignorant? Please defend Jimin but don’t insult Enhypen? Where’s your common sense?

[@BabyDanny_]

Both fandoms need to stop it tbh. Idky engenes blamed Jimin as if it’s his fault when it’s not, he deserved his award. And some Armys need to stop insulting BTS’s juniors as if Enhypen did something wrong. Idky some Kpop stans don’t use their brain🌚

[@Kitty-t7h]

Meovv winning 3 awards is an absolute joke.

[@ville-c4u]

No one cares

[@lolanxtdoor]

​@@ville-c4u28 people liked the comment. it shows that 28 people care lol

[@coupsbakery17]

56 now, lmao​@@lolanxtdoor

[@lmaobrian594]

@@lolanxtdoor 67 people lmao

[@gavril.fdes31]

Meovv just won 1 award

[@Shinshien-cg5jb]

Twt engenes wanted jimin to d while serving in military fighting over a mere award weird its not like jimin is a nugu artist enhypen have always admire bts 💜

[@niki4thgenitboy]

fr 😭 like we're talking ab bts here ig they'll win eventually

[@DummyLang-e3g]

fighting BTS...these engenes gonna be the next clown bunnies. lets see

[@A.T837]

Heavy on Treasures performance. I was staying up late watching performances tired waiting for theirs and when it appeared it really woke me up I for sure wanna see more of them performing and hyping up the crowd in future events please yg 🙏💎

[@Hfde6ingubi9h_vff]

thank you sm for your appreciation❤💎

[@A.T837]

@@Hfde6ingubi9h_vff ofc fellow teume 😉💎

[@jiminpedia]

I love the way you presented this and every enhypen fan should be mature and do better next time and move on rather than harassing jimin

[@AimFlash2506]

frr the real villain here is MAMA and their horrible voting system like after hearing the nominee i genuinely was confused what i was even voting for at that point

[@jiminpedia]

@AimFlash2506 yes they should have clarified more specifically how to vote and how the votes would count for the Daesang.

[@niki4thgenitboy]

yes lets not harass our idols 😭

[@sanazamir8341]

Frr

[@treasure_aces]

TREASURE PERFORMANCE IS 🔥🔥🔥

[@jaedam0820]

@@treasure_aces phenomenal.

[@Hfde6ingubi9h_vff]

EXACTLY!!! I've seen so many positive comments TREASURE SAVED MAMA 2024 from k-netisens , non-fans, MoAs , Enhypen's fans or just people passing by... THEY'RE LITERALLY ATE!!! SO PROUD OF OUR BOYS🔥❤️💎

[@Gojo-ki-poookie]

The only thing i liked about PAPA was SOYEON MENTIONING SOOJIN IN HER RAP AAHAHAHBSKXJSJ😭It was like my dream come true gosh. I wont be surprised if soojin makes it back to gidle atp-

[@Bloom_Jiya]

That was the best moment!

[@laetitiac9890]

I think they are still pissed and will try to correct it

[@_JustArandomMultistan_]

My inner Neverland is dying to say something but it's gonna make me sound VERY delusional

[@nonehereokayxx]

That's one of the things I loved about MAMA this year.

[@gavril.fdes31]

Soyeon cooked there fr!!

[@ak_16808]

It’s MAMA that did Rosé and Bruno dirty, they didn’t let them perform live and played the prerecorded video, not because Rosé and Bruno didn’t want to perform live. MAMA just wants to use their fame for clout.

[@l0velyfl0wer]

Cuz kpop hates realism. They want every performance to be mistake free and edited to how they want it to be

[@Ibxlkslbccd]

That’s wrong, because both party agreements did not match. Bruno is a perfectionist and he always perform with a band one side mama never ever work with a bands and it requires many prep and rehearsal so that’s why they end up with a pre-recorded performance which is satisfied both sides

[@RYUs_addractive_gal]

At least aespa get what they deserved with 6 awards, So thank god.

[@RomanHemet-c6l]

@@RYUs_addractive_gal I don’t think so

[@RYUs_addractive_gal]

@RomanHemet-c6l why?

[@sugar5195]

@@RomanHemet-c6l Right i also don't think so .. they deserved aoty too!💅💅

[@Dalgomismine1]

0:16 as an American I cringed and legit had tears of how pathetic the venue was. It reminded me of a middle school play. The backup dancers in the isle??? Artists walking through the back door??? The artiste barely feet away from fans?? What hot garbage. I couldn’t stand to watch the event in u.s

[@Rolandajohn]

I heard that security was really tight in the US venue because they did not want riise fans to say anything The moment any fan would yell in support of the group. They would yell at them and threaten them that they will kick them out. they took away a lot of fans personal items. also, I didn’t like the fact that the idols was so close to the fans because literally in one of the clips during the show I seen a fan try to put her phone in front of one of the idle spaces and I was just like what is your problem and I feel like even though the performances was OK I feel like if they had a bigger venue it would’ve been even better, but the US venue was honestly disappointing

[@abcd-d1y6d]

All the korean platforms are playing dirty with ITZY 💀💀💀

[@Raybeamgobrrr]

Enhypen fans need to chill out cus enha was leading for BOSANGS not DAESANGS. For daesangs armys collectively only voted for jimin but bosangs their votes were divided so ofc enha was #1 for the bosangs. Stop being stupid, yall are the reason enhypen fans are called dumb. Im sad enha didnt win but this is JIMIN of BTS. Yall think he got some 400 votes on twt? Bfr rn

[@ShreyaNarain]

I agree armys are fire when it comes to voting and streaming they do anything to make bts win its not a surprise

[@abcd-d1y6d]

Not adding ITZY was the biggest crime💀💀💀💀

[@coletteemmanuel]

I honestly don't agree with this especially BTS members who won awards, just because they are serving in the army doesn't mean the fan base has died. Armys always make sure their idols get rewarded when they should.

[@jungkookluvie]

This 👆

[@LilRockShrimp]

then why don't you all move foor other members? why only jimin?

[@coletteemmanuel]

@@LilRockShrimp RM, V AND JK won awards

[@stargazing2628]

​@@LilRockShrimpIt's not Jimin's fault that he's always been the most popular member especially in the US and South Korea.

[@LilRockShrimp]

@stargazing2628 Lol He is not even even the most popular member in his group. the sk you are talking about is calling him fraud very proudly

[@wookyeuu]

5:52 BTS have won daesangs for 7 continuous consecutive years but seems like other fandoms forgot that Armys are the biggest fandom out there, so fans randomly saying it was rigged? Lmao, don't get me started on it.

[@Itsnotme-p1t]

Honey, ARMYs are the biggest fandom in the whole world, not just in kpop and kpop fandoms are just because that is something they can never do

[@erwane8532]

Nobody forget it, this personn said whatever about what happened...

[@nope5579]

when exo kept winning everything armys were saying it was rigged and that they voted hard and that mama rigged rose-giving fan vote award. now its turntables.

[@גקדןרק]

​@@Itsnotme-p1t Nah I'd say Beyonce and Taylor swift has more fans but yeah BTS has *a lot* of fans

[@burningred9147]

@@גקדןרק BTS do have the biggest fandom in the world rn, Harry Potter previously had the biggest fandom ever, but BTS Army's surpassed them and became the biggest fandom ever. Y'all can even Google this lol.

[@deepanwitasinharoy4524]

Ok but bigbang, aespa and gidle ate down everyone in the damn room

[@Ihave------NoName-e]

Okay but meow winning the best new rising artist is a joke like tgetr were nominated with one awful debut

[@nobodybuttu]

right😂

[@ella_sharma9381]

First of all babymonster also win same award in 2023 mama with one single song better up. Meow song has 2.8 stream in Spotify with one single song. They are talented and they deserve it

[@jaedam0820]

Finally a compliment on Treasure from this channel. Thank you.

[@modellodime]

I think people always forget about them because of the fact that YG promotes mostly their girl groups, after Bigbang I mean. It’s such a shame because they are killer performers

[@jaedam0820]

@modellodime-7429 they truly are killer performers. I do hope they get significant traction once they start their world tour.

[@Hfde6ingubi9h_vff]

​@@modellodimethank you sm for your appreciation❤💎

[@Lolz365]

I thank you with my whole heart to clarify on Jimin winning the award cus the way all the k - u tubers are busy blaming Jimin and acting like he didn’t deserve it is so messy❣️. Thank you💜💜

[@theredevils3029]

obviously, he didn't deserve that award😅😅His songs are terrible 😂

[@_mel_21]

@@theredevils3029it’s so terrible that millions of people keep streaming and listening it. It seems like K-pop made y’all can’t stand actual good music. Go listen to your mediocre lyrics and noise and shut up.

[@babystarcandyss]

​@@theredevils3029It was still fan voting so your opinion who deserved it or not is invalid lol

[@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq]

his song sucked. thats a fact

[@Lolz365]

@@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dqyour opinion is not a fact 😊

[@joonobug]

I’m sorry but it felt like an attendance award show where anyone who attended would get an award no matter how ridiculous the name of award is. Also it feels like magnetic was robbed of SOTY that song was literally everywhere. And congratulations to jimin, my man won fair square through voting.

[@ihatemyselfverymuchlol]

the criteria fir SOTY was 60 percent streams in south korea and 20 percent global supernova broke 20 year record of consecutive no 1 on the charts with more streams in south korea than illit thus supernova won also the judges has 20percent weightage too and they preferred something out of the box than tik tok style music...........

[@DP-mv7ph]

bro supernova had over 300 PAKS and the judges vote was worth 40%.. You need to get out of your bubble and realize that the judges who live in Korea have probably perceived the impact and popularity of Supernova more than that of Magnetic.

[@Catnip3207]

It's because supernova is more of a local hit than an international hit like magnetic. The criteria for judging focuses more on the domestic success than global so supernova won.

[@sugar5195]

@@joonobug jimin winning is fair and square but aespa winning is not?? What a joke!! You need to know facts about the criteria and then yapp about it!

[@joonobug]

@@sugar5195 see you just showed your literacy did I anywhere mentioned aespa? No. But you need to drag them.

[@jaeminsfavoriteicedcoffee9482]

the way i dont even keep up with MAMA anymore- its so chaotic

[@Nunanuna-o8e]

It's not award season without bts winning daesang and kpoopies throwing "it's rigged" accusation toward them, ntm exols joining the conversation by bringing up the 2017 Mama all over again 😂

[@Lolz365]

exols be having their nostalgic moment 😂

[@BTSISMYHAPPYPLACE4VER]

​@@Lolz365right. Same song and dance all over again. They lost back then and so irrelevant now. But they are still salty about it. Poor babies. 😏

[@sanazamir8341]

Agreed kpopies are so bitter

[@jungkookluvie]

​@@Lolz365. LOL

[@florence9702]

😂😂😂

[@AhyconicFanse]

The way treasure shined in japan am i even surprised

[@Jeongin-Jeongin-jeongin-Jeongi]

Cus wdym fate by gidle won over cosmic by rv for best vocal performance?

[@Deamon_pox101]

Nah bro enha, txt , skz and ateez deserved most of the awards 💀

[@ElizabethAkinola-l7v]

Frr😭

[@simplykmotion]

the problem is, it's not about who deserve it, it's about statistics and who has more digital sales and album sales. If they had a number one song they would have definitely won it

[@Quokkabitwants2know]

@simplykmotion They literally had stray kids broke a record and Ateez topped charts. But I will not judge who won they deserved it whether we want it or not

[@joonsdimple]

@@Quokkabitwants2knowy’all keep saying top the charts but topping the charts isn’t #46 and out and #1 on bugs and no chart placement on anything else. I need y’all to be serious.

[@babyanie4673]

IZNA is reminding me of Kep1er in the sense of having everything from visual, to standout members to amazing performances. I really hope Wakeone gets it together with them and releases good music. They have the potential to be a top 5th gen group

[@gavril.fdes31]

Ikr...they've not even debuted yet their song is receiving criticism

[@JETOWL22]

THanks you FOR SAYING TWS AND ILL-IT DESVERD THAT WIN CAUSE I SEE ALOT OF BM FANS SAYING THAT HYBE PAYEF THEM BUT LITERALLY MAGNETIC AND LUVK GIRL SYNDROME WAS EVERYWHERE IDC WHAG YOY SAY IT'S MY OPINION they deserved the that

[@n8mare076]

Yeah

[@IoveIie]

bm fans are toxic their faves flopped 😂😂 illit deserves it after everything they went trough!

[@user-riahmesphere]

Honestly, everyone knows magnetic was better than sheesh. It was so globak

[@Catnip3207]

@@JETOWL22 lmao wait for the bm fans who'll make a paragraph talking about bm talent coz they can't talk about their poorly produced discography and try to say illit doesn't deserve any award coz they don't have half of talent bm has. Like at the end of the day, people don't do vocal thesis on the song they listen to.

[@_JustArandomMultistan_]

My favourite boy group performance was: BIGBANG, TREASURE, SEVENTEEN & BOYNEXTDOOR

[@Hfde6ingubi9h_vff]

thank you sm for your appreciation for TREASURE ❤💎

[@sugar5195]

Ppl saying mama this year was boring.. y'all high ig??? Big bang performance had everyone at chokehold! Aespa turned the award show into their music concert! Rose and bruno mars making everyone sing along with them! Svt and enhyphen having such a great performance! Soyeon dissing cube and mentioning soojin in her rap. Yeonjun starting award show with his solo controversial solo ggum. WHAT ELSE Y'ALL NEED😭😭😭 YOU GUYS CAN'T ACCEPT THAT 4TH GEN IS AS GOOD AS ANY KPOP GENERATION GROUP...

[@iamjustagirlintheworldd]

FRRR! They just wanna whine and complain!

[@Chloé-x5v]

Omg yesss

[@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq]

Don't get me started with those categories. I'm pretty suree they made the category for APT collab just bcz Bruno confirmed to be there. Make up categories on the go . Bruno looked forced to be there.

[@theredevils3029]

the APT song deserves the award...most popular song this year 😅

[@Idgaf_24]

​@@theredevils3029 so? It still wasn't nominated and Bruno might have refused to perform live..😅

[@bonelakiranmai4573]

I can't with k-popies man they literally don't know the difference between bonsang and daesang don't tell me that only armys know the difference that is why no one has won this award except BTS it is clear that MAMA never shows the stats of daesangs it might be hard to understand for new k-pop fans but what's wrong with old k-pop fans did they turned blind as soon as they saw jimin daesang and bonsang are two different categories enhypen was at 1st in bonsang not in daesang how can they say certain group was at first when we can't even the stats of daesang

[@sanazamir8341]

Thank u for speaking facts

[@raissanv]

idk whats going on through SM's mind letting RIIZE and Aespa performed lipsync to their songs, while Aespa slaying so hard with their raw vocals ini TikTok awards and RIIZE also slay so hard singing live in KGMA just a few days before MAMA. They even do Impossible live. WTF SM.

[@Kpopp09]

I can't with these people in comment section who don't even have knowledge about daesang they should first get to know how to vote for daesang voting for bonsang and daesang is different for bonsang army have to vote for 5 members and still Army manage to get 4 members bonsang winner and for daesang Army only have to vote for jimin so it's obvious jimin gonna win and these so called engene is blind as well because daesang ranking don't even show at the time of voting and every one know army is huge

[@timeless1882]

No wonder YG didn't let Babymonster go to the awards show. How did Meovv get an award, but Babymonster didn't???

[@Ash2theB]

And they dragged GD there for a made up award smh. He was so over it but at least they let Big Bang perform.

[@_JustArandomMultistan_]

It was absolutely ridiculous Jimin getting hate. First off, bro is in the military. Second off, this is THE Jimin from THE BTS. Let this sink in please. Check his popularity for deeper conformation. ARMY's are still here. Just cuz BTS is gone, doesn't mean ARMY's have gone with them. 😂

[@theredevils3029]

that's the reason people are questioning about his award 😅😅... everyone were working hard producing some good music all year but out of nowhere these Hybe's idols winning something.. something fishy 😅

[@Shinshien-cg5jb]

​@@theredevils3029 jimin has produced his songs too he worked hard for us he pre recorded his music before enlisting so stop being salty over every other jimin's related posts u dumb f

[@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq]

@@Shinshien-cg5jb Jimin did nothing. Ur just overhyping

[@tyrantmaloka1273]

​@@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dqhe won deal with it your flop group didn't win, its not jimin's fault that your group is unknown stupid.🤣🤣🤣

[@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq]

@@tyrantmaloka1273 I don't have a group

[@Aizannn]

ILLIT and TWS both were the top charting artist this year with their debut albums!! And they didn't get invited to the main event but groups like Izna and Meow went?! WTF is that?! Im shocked how HYBE let their groups be disrespected like that! Lesserafim Perfect night was surely winning Song of the year by the amount of votes and streams but the lengths MAMA went to wipe out Lsrfm from the whole ass event was soo embarrassing! They are top global girl group this year!!

[@lucillealbay1572]

Are you sure about that Song of the year lesserafim? Search how supernova dominate all the charts digital chart and circle chart...are you updated...duhhhj...🤨🤨🤨🤨 Hybe payola who always dance dnt deserve that...hellerk...

[@AyAReI00]

​@@lucillealbay1572Hybe stans are delusional 😂

[@blueraine21]

@@lucillealbay1572 LSFM is very relevant in the west like New Jeans, in fact they have more solid fandom in US than NewJeans... Aespa is basically nugu here

[@saylalisalovemelalisalovem3334]

​@@blueraine21are you living under a rock or are you blind and deaf. calling aespa nugu is like calling olivia rodrigo irrelevant.

[@ayomide8104]

@@blueraine21Now be so fr

[@gravy9gravy]

Kpop is very niche in the US, a small venue is in order. Audience mostly mid level industry people getting a taste, no doubt. In that regard a success.

[@rollylucky]

i don’t know why there is this weird standard that is only put on illit. like they can’t win. yeah they lip synced but so did other groups including those that are pretty much veterans to their 8 months. but those groups still“slayed” 😕 illit’s performance was great, it is okay to say that.

[@BLINKWORLD-26774]

True this channel often seems bias.

[@lilmeowmeow9283]

Mama was 99 percent lip syncing and more about the performance....kinda disappointing

[@aakanksha8609]

Treasure absolutely killed thier performance

[@Hfde6ingubi9h_vff]

I've seen so many positive comments TREASURE SAVED MAMA 2024 from k-netisens , non-fans, MoAs , Enhypen's fans or just people passing by... THEY'RE LITERALLY ATE!!! PROUD OF MY BOYS🔥❤️

[@Dizzykathie]

Twitter kpop stans dragging Jimin are embarrassing and disgusting

[@BabyStarCandy97.]

Bc he deserves it. His solo stans were exposed buying votes & before the final round too Jimin was pushed from #1 to #6 after filteration of votes by Mama & they confirmed that they removed botted votes but in final & especially live voting, mama didn't even show his achievements in the final. They showed Jungkook's records under Jimin's name.

[@Gaogaog]

​@@BabyStarCandy97." He deserve it" says a solo. Why are you acting like it's only his soloes when each kpop fandom do it?

[@shapinaak]

@@BabyStarCandy97. Free BTS from solos. I'm sure Jimin and JK's WV update had you crying, screaming and throwing up 🫵😂

[@MixutiniPark]

@@BabyStarCandy97. There is no legitimate evidence of foul play. Mama removed all illegitimate votes before the final result. Jimin deserves to be respected just like everyone else. He has had a very successful year and deserves to be recognized for his work. It's not a surprise that a solo stan like yourself would still want to act nasty.

[@DreamGiogio]

Jimin winning Fan's Choice was very fair idk what people expect and tbh if a BTS member is nominated, chances of other artists winning is pretty low, they should've known this by now..

[@KingKikikoi]

Considering how much streams Jimins song has.. it was more of a proof that Hybe just bought streams since he only won that award for a song that’s allegedly so “big”

[@LilRockShrimp]

No that's not possible unless you armys are solo stan of Jimin

[@pengwinu]

So in simple words for you, jimin was leading in bonsang category (out of all BTS members)​ and we can only give daesang to one person so jm was the perfect choice for it bcs if split the votes in btw our biases none of them will win!! I hope it's clear for you now @@LilRockShrimp

[@mane6962]

@@KingKikikoi what are you on? It has a lot of streams because it's a pop banger

[@LilRockShrimp]

​@@pengwinufyi Jungkook was leading. Jimin was on 6th postion. behind taehyung. You can't fool anyone this time.

[@tokyobento]

I’m actually happy XG wasn’t part of this cluster fuck of a show!!! They’re getting heaps of experience on their world tour (now in Europe) and will be performing at COACHELLA 2025!!!

[@ithoughtiwascishet1316]

yeah, 2024 was big, but next year will be the year of xg. hopefully they perform on lots of big stages and we get our first full album! coachella 2025!!!

[@martingneu4590]

I was at there concert in Berlin yesterday. Such an incredible show. So much diversity in the set list. Rock versions from there songs, crazy styling like justin left me speechless, amazing rap performances, vocal heaven like Juria covering hello by adele and DJ session of Simon incorporating trendy German songs and blending them with xg themed beats. It also was jurias birthday which was celebrated. Just wished more people overhear would care about them

[@idollheart]

The Performances this year were so good ( Shoutout to Katseye, Ive, Aespa, Txt, Enha, Svt, Treasure and Bigbang ) but this Show is so damn rigged

[@theredevils3029]

don't understand how on earth Katseye was included in MAMA😅

[@Hfde6ingubi9h_vff]

thank you sm for your appreciation❤💎 Treasure 🔥

[@chrissturkenboom6080]

I truly missed BTS live performances at award shows.

[@jungkookluvie]

Me too... :(

[@Shinshien-cg5jb]

@@chrissturkenboom6080 same 😭and their goofiness too and the way they support every other junior artist even if they didn't received one🥹

[@Ibtissam-Sp.7]

Same 🥹😭

[@EkramEko-fp1ty]

Enhypen fans hate on jimin like he don't deserve 😔 I don't hate Enhypen before and I even suspect them but for today there fans is so hateful anyways congratulations to my boy jimin you deserve avery ting you 🏆

[@theredevils3029]

Jimin songs are the worst amongst hybe songs this year😅

[@nttm5901]

​@@theredevils3029your devil like your channel name ..his mv was most stream. You may not follow him and your standards may not be that high class jimin standard. You better stay within low note childish song...Jimin got award by fans' vote, million people love them...next time another BTS members will win this award❤❤

[@tyrantmaloka1273]

​@@theredevils3029as if enhypen flop songs were the best jokes on you.🤣🤣

[@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq]

hate is valid. "Who" didn't even chart in korea

[@Shinshien-cg5jb]

​​@@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq who got 2 m streams on melon within 24hoursMelon: Melon Hall of Fame "Millions Album" plaque ,his 2 songs are still in top3 on spotify sk ,biggest first day sales by a soloist, biggest first day album stream ,1 on Melon's Male Solo Artist chart,#3 on Melon's Daily All Artist chart, Jimin ranked #3 on Melon's Daily All Artist chart want more💀

[@Multistan225]

Where are the other Asian artists? This is basically just Korean awards show smh

[@GOODfourYOU7088]

It's been like this for years. It's basically a kpop industry award show. Even in the categories like rap it's either former Kpop idols or kpop adjacent. They rarely ever include anyone wjo isn't apart of the kpop industry. Acts like XG, who totally deserved to be recognized for the artistry, continously get snubbed by Mama just bc they aren't under a Korean entertainment company

[@KagamiTaiga-kb5vd]

@@GOODfourYOU7088 so it should be Mnet Korean Music Awards

[@GOODfourYOU7088]

@@KagamiTaiga-kb5vd yes!

[@kenrecxo15]

the reason is very simple, majority of asian artist are singers, when they perform they always sing live,😊😊

[@BTSENGENEXGIZNA]

Right like where tf is XG 😭 I know their touring

[@justhope227]

The AI opening pissed me off for real

[@Myyann-Nyann]

Same 😭

[@Itzstar446]

Ikr..

[@Ryyluvspiwon]

opening for who?

[@justhope227]

@@Ryyluvspiwon ive

[@Ryyluvspiwon]

@ ah okayy

[@Roxst1905]

Whatever it is, Aespa well deserve those awards, it's truly their year 2024. I'm not even aespa stans and just avid kpoper, but I can see and appreciate all their releases this year are hit!

[@skz.hyumpling]

real

[@alesonu]

Lacking live vocals of TXT?? Broh I listened to their performance several times and I realized that their backing vocals were so loud that they literally had to sing their songs much louder. You can hear their voices. Even in Ggum, Yeonjun had to scream rap. You can even hear him getting tired while trying to sing live at much louder voice but he still did.

[@jiminiepabo4030]

Daesangs were well deserved in my opinion idc about other

[@Goldwnjames4198]

I watched American award shows for years and i was embarrassed at the mama awards the room had no energy people were on their phones while the artist were performing on stage, and whoever organized this needs to be fired America we can do better than this.what saved the night for me was katseye they really bought the energy what an amazing performance if this is what America is gonna offer then they should just keep the awards in their country because the other shows were far better than the US show

[@nuellawayne2308]

KATSEYE really were the star of the show Mama had months to plan the event but ended up panicking last minute

[@nneichan9353]

As far as RIIZE, because of seunghan, there is a lot of awareness of them. But many Internationals are still angry about how Seunghan was treated. Who knows if this will help them or if it will hurt their brand and if it will re-energize the boycott.

[@Nobody2060-lg2kl]

MAMA honestly just continues disappointing more year after year. It doesn't deserve the prestige it has.

[@_JustArandomMultistan_]

I agree. I only clock in for MAMA just to watch the performances.

[@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq]

#boycottMAMA

[@kittykatjagirl]

So…apparently there were people who were stopped at the door, saying anyone who wore the color orange or the number 7 could not go in. It’s definitely because they were trying to cover up the dismay surrounding Riize, but insisting someone remove the batteries of their lightstick for fear of the color orange is absurd. SM really stooped low on Riize’s success/journey on this one, and MAMA isn’t any better for reinforcing the color and number ban without a public warning.

[@EleesTink]

I love, "People thought Army's didn't vanished. They're just lying low until they need to flex!" 😆🔥

[@sabrinaperez2996]

Lesserafim was not nominated for soty being a no.1 contender Tws was also not nominated for soty and then magnetic didn't win soty

[@binnieeee_]

They didn't allow people wearing orange tee-shirts cuz they're supporting ot7 riize. Like tf. It's their wish on what they wear.

[@theredevils3029]

like GD said, MAMA is a snake awards show 😅

[@TheCommentaification]

Damn that rookie J.Y. Park is gonna go places I swear.

[@dinahblakely1888]

Really didn't like that Mama use ai concept for ive's performance.....

[@Just_a_casual_fan]

Why did Jennie got best dance.I love her but this year Nayeon shined the most in dance category.

[@Shinshien-cg5jb]

Wtf 💀 Jennie

[@ahotgirlthatcriesalot]

so real. I would have understood if it was Mantra but You and me?! more like than Yawn and mid

[@abdullahxiteck5611]

She won because she is more popular 🥱

[@Tsewang_Lachenpa]

​@@abdullahxiteck5611Jimin won because he's more popular than Jin, RM, Suga and Jungkook!

[@BLINKWORLD-26774]

Jennie won thanks for the attention tho.

[@yomarysanchez1808]

Ppl crying about jimin winning is ridiculous bc they didn’t know the difference between bongs an and desang ….. jimin won the desang as he should. Kpop Stan’s didn’t know what they vote for

[@yomarysanchez1808]

Remember jimin is a Grammy nominated artist and he was the first Korean to get #1 hot 100…..

[@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq]

jimin deserves ass

[@yomarysanchez1808]

@@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq just bc you cannot accept jimin impact in music doesn’t mean he doesn’t deserve it. Like the KZbinr said: jimin summer album still high charting after months… your faves are not even near of a bts member.

[@yomarysanchez1808]

@@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dqso it means that you didn’t know the difference between bongs an and desang ? 🫵🏽

[@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq]

@@yomarysanchez1808 cry harder. You have to say soo much to defend, the desperation shows

[@bluemoon3726]

Bigbang ,treasure and rosexbruno is the only reason why i watch Mama

[@A.T837]

Too real

[@NingKook000]

all i know is aespa got 6 awards including main awards like: SOTY best female group, best MV, best performance as deserved that enough for me 😎 the rest i don't care because it's been a long time that i don't watch fulls awards shows

[@lmaobrian594]

@@NingKook000 which made the whole show flop frr

[@yen-8680]

Kats eye really show amazing performance

[@nuellawayne2308]

Ikr I had to stan them after that performance

[@yen-8680]

@@nuellawayne2308 i just listened their whole mini album…, i must say i really like what they have… looking forward for their comeback

[@swatik-pop]

daesangs were well deserved, in my opinion and tws really deserved my boys slayed (seventeen and tws slayed)

[@youerasedme]

AESPA winning Song of the Year at the 2024 MAMA Awards for "Supernova" is a well-deserved recognition of their hard work and artistry. It's a significant achievement that solidifies their position as a top girl group in the K-pop industry. Here's why I think it's a great win for AESPA: - "Supernova" is a truly exceptional song: It's a captivating blend of powerful vocals, innovative production, and captivating lyrics that resonated with audiences worldwide. - Chart Domination: "Supernova" achieved a perfect all-kill in Korea, topping all major charts, and it secured a triple crown on Inkigayo. This shows its widespread appeal and impact on the music industry. - Global Recognition: The song reached number five on Billboard's World Digital Song Sales chart, number 17 on the Billboard Global 200 chart, and number six on the Billboard Global Excl. U.S. chart, demonstrating its international appeal. - A testament to their growth: This award reflects AESPA's continued growth and evolution as artists. They've consistently produced high-quality music and captivating performances, and this win signifies their hard work and dedication paying off. Overall, AESPA's Song of the Year win is a testament to their talent, creativity, and dedication to their craft. It's a well-deserved recognition that marks another milestone in their impressive journey.

[@kamialexis4831]

They wanted to use the venue in LA just for the fact it hosts the Oscar’s….. like this is not the same as the Oscar’s PLZ!!!

[@VeryTired-c7b]

Illit deserved SOTY and aespa deserved AOTY. MAMA knew what they were doing sending Illit in US instead of Japan.

[@MISSILITIAhmed2]

لا.سوبرنوفا اكتسحت المخططات لاطول مدة في كوريا وللان مازالت سوبرنوفا اغنية السنة بامتياز وحتى اغنية اليت لم تتقدم عليها

[@sweetification]

Illit did not deserve SOTY 😹😹

[@Arielaarmy-k7i]

😂😂bro magnetic is still charting in billboard 200

[@MISSILITIAhmed2]

@Arielaarmy-k7i اذا فليذهبو الى البيلبورد 200للحصول على الجاءزة 🤫

[@idollheart]

8:41 you were so real for that, like the poor girlies literally couldn't be heard if they sang normally 😭

[@_JustArandomMultistan_]

RIIZE may seem like their audiences come from international places, BUT NO WAY IN HELL does ILLIT and TWS have more international fans then domestic fans. That doesn't even sound right! 😂😂

[@vic__kinoshita]

PERFECT NIGHT FOR AESPA

[@dinahblakely1888]

Facts!!!!

[@noirnoironey]

😒dang the obsession with lsf need to be studied....mys can celebrate & focus only in aespa but still failed ...

[@bardakta_corba]

Mys obsession with lesserafim needs to be studied

[@kaisputnik]

it will be a perfect night for me when mys learn to hop off le sserafim 💀

[@vic__kinoshita]

@@kaisputnik lmao fearnots literally made a fucking hashtag on X to complain!!! im just saying here, that the only perfect night, who had it was AESPA

[@Lav_Pixie2007]

I’m glad you’re talking about IVE bc I thought it was just me😭

[@amorelockster1023]

No literally I was like wtf. The only thing they delivered on was the outfits and visuals. One thing IVE will do is have one of the best outfits. They did improve vocally though.

[@Hellokitty_391]

​@@amorelockster1023one thing for sure they have good music, can't say the same thing to annoying noisy music 4th gen boygroups had

[@karelys-qk5ng]

10:07 Facts. I hope Treasure and Boynextdoor become besties. I love their stages, songs and interactions

[@Kpopp09]

Enhypen was first in ranking" yeah in ranking for BONSANGS, the voting for daesangs was next and this part was never public. If you don't even know that, this explains why you lost. So many people don't even have knowledge about what is criteria for daesang please first get some knowledge of this criteria you guys so stupid for questioning on Jimin with out knowing anything BTW congratulations Jimin well deserved