Kragnos Awakens!: Broken Realms Kragnos lore

[@thewayfarer8849]

I like how in changes to the status quo, AOS is creating entirely new characters. Broken Realms overall is a massive success

[@skywatcheradept]

The vast majority of Broken Realms characters are old ones: Morathi, Teclis, Nagash, Alarielle, Belakor, Kroak etc. Kragnos is a rare example of an interesting new major character in AoS.

[@Kaanfight]

Adding new interesting characters and expanding existing ones, which is great

[@JAmes-ui9bq]

Unless Gotrek is having a pint at a local Excelcis Inn that city is screwed.

[@cheekygnome203]

massive true

[@kanseiyamazaru435]

It's a good time to be a fan of the Forces of Destruction.

[@gaminggamer2594]

I like to imagine that as Kragnos awakened, the Pillar Men theme was loudly blasting in the background

[@floriannarratio8062]

If Excelsis is still standing at the end of all this, they deserve a cookie. No, make it two.

[@suitorshooter996]

I think it's so cool that Kragnos doesn't try to overpower or dominate the greenskins, cause why does he care? They're just Orcs they don't matter. He's just like 'Ima go smash this city now, wanna come with?'

[@jeffreycrowder2866]

Man this makes me a 40 k player want to enter AoS

[@ThereIsOnlyWar40k]

Very good description thanks.

[@auroralee]

First time I've heard the realmstone of Ghur; Amberstone mentioned! Would love to hear more about that in future stories, because Ghur is my favorite Realm and realmstone always has cool and crazy effects on people who are exposed to it.

[@stovepip]

The kragnos model is just screaming for the user to make lewd greenstuff attachments

[@atragonx7939]

Am I the only one thinking that in a way, it's a shame that beastmen are inextricably tied to Chaos? I feel like that asthetic could have made for a really cool destruction faction. Destruction feels like such an "also ran" as a grand alliance. They need some more love. This, at least is a good step.

[@nbmoleminer5051]

Well they are kinda both aren't they?

[@InquisitorThomas]

@@nbmoleminer5051 Not really, it’s worth remembering that Beastmen predate AOS and the alliance structure. Yes Beastmen hate civilization but there wasn’t really another faction that hated Civilization besides Chaos, plus Chaos created the Beastmen as a race so they have that loyalty.

[@rootsnootthnute8598]

@@InquisitorThomas The Beastmen are culturally tied to chaos, and it definitely created them, but it did so by corrupting naturally occurring animals, such as humans, livestock, and wild animals. I'd compare them to the Trolls, who were also mutated by the warping powers of chaos from the Ogres created by the Old Ones to fight against chaos. Ogres were meant to be chaos resistant, though they're definitely not totally immune, as evidenced by the various mutant Ogre breeds that exist, like Yhetees, Gorgers, and Trolls/Troggoths, and all three of those mutant Ogre breeds are part of the Destruction grand alliance. Based on that, I wouldn't consider a group of Beastmen that doesn't serve Chaos impossible, but I think they'd have a really hard go of it, the Ogre descendants have only managed because they're actually very pure in their mindset, so chaos can't truly corrupt their weird and tiny little brains, but the Beastmen are very human, so they're just as prone to human emotions as any other servant of chaos. Oddly, the Fimir are also in the Destruction grand alliance, even though they were the original mortal thralls of chaos before humanity came about, maybe they just got over the chaos gods though?

[@burningbronze7555]

@@rootsnootthnute8598 maybe gorkamorka will try to take the beast men as a plot point?

[@David-hx6hw]

Beastmen in the Old World are only Chaos because they get abandoned. One should theoretically manage to make one Destruction. Though they are inherently tied to Chaos

[@nbmoleminer5051]

I love all the primordial races of the old world and the realms.

[@InquisitorThomas]

Yeah I hope we see the Fimir return at some point, and hopefully in plastic. Also the Bloodnaga of Khuresh would be nice.

[@nbmoleminer5051]

@@InquisitorThomas Aye Same.

[@tyronechamp]

The canyon collapsing by the destruction armies clashing was clearly a sign from Gorkamorka. 'Ere we go, 'ere we go! It's cool to see how Kragnos does tie in with the destruction faction, the drum beats of him escaping his prison were referenced in a bunch of destruction short stories previously.

[@alecadanglao8386]

Damn excelsis is not having a good day

[@MrUnreal9111]

BTW be sure to read the God of Earthquakes short story from the last friday. IT talks about how Kragnos still thinks his people are alive and goes there to find peace. At the same time Excelsis is at the other side of the prison mountain.

[@kenhouston814]

I wish his people WERE still alive

[@nbmoleminer5051]

@@kenhouston814 Aye I do as well.

[@jeffreycrowder2866]

Once again thanks for the quality lore introduction

[@juandougnac8826]

I get some Lobo (DC comics character) vibes from Kragnos: race of reasonable people who mostly got along with everyone until one day a jerk comes that ruins everything :P

[@adambielen8996]

I see I wasn't the only one.

[@MrSeerV]

I'm just getting into AoS with the upcoming box (I really love those kruleboys), is this worth picking up for the story?

[@jeffreycrowder2866]

I was wondering the same thing but those Krulebois look intense and a blast to assemble and paint

[@40KWill]

Only if you want the story. The rules not so much

[@SuperDuperHappyTime]

Doug: I need a break on Wednesday Reality: Kragnos didn’t have enough content to neatly divide into 5 videos

[@2Tough]

False: I have a video on Saturday :) 5 vids

[@NewGuy2534]

This is what happens when Calis and Toll leave for more than five minutes.

[@rootsnootthnute8598]

I think it's a bit strange that the supposedly incredibly ancient species that Kragnos belongs to is technically much younger than any of the species from the Old World. I feel like it's just because most people in AoS don't have any idea about where they come from or who they originally were. Fimir, obscure as they are, were truly prehistoric, having civilization before the Old Ones even colonized the planet Warhammer Fantasy took place on, meaning the Fimir predated Elves, Slaan, Lizardmen, Dwarves, Trolls, and everybody else, but so few people even remember there ever was an Old World. It makes me wonder how far in the future AoS really is, there's a few hints that millions of years have passed since the End Times, ironically that info is provided by the one species that definitely doesn't keep records, the Troggoths. The Rockgut troggoth kit has fossils of what look to be the equivalent of precambrian mollusks, and the Dankhold troggoths have had massive stalagmites form on them over their tens of thousands of years of life (Some of those stalagmites have even had human skulls encased in them, including a 4 foot tall stalagmite that would take around 12,000 years to form, confirming the presence of humans in the realms for at least that long.).

[@adambielen8996]

One thing to remember is that everyone that wasn't Lizardmen, Skaven, or part of Archaon's army died in the World that Was. So all the other races that are there now have no direct connection to the races of the World that Was.

[@rootsnootthnute8598]

@@adambielen8996 They might have all died, but the new ones aren't new species made in imitation of the old ones, they're those species reborn, sort of like how lab rat breeds can be completely exterminated, but then brought back by using preserved gametes. Plus, it's very likely that a lot of the people who died have "reincarnated" as new people throughout the ages of the realms, though I doubt many kept their memories. After all, the elves survived in soul form in Slaanesh's belly, and most souls didn't have to deal with such horrors trying to break down their very existence, most of the dead probably just ended up floating through the ether left behind after the world ended.

[@adambielen8996]

@@rootsnootthnute8598 everyone that died went to the afterlives of Shyish. We see that in Realmslayer with Snorri and Max.

[@rootsnootthnute8598]

@@adambielen8996 Oh nice, I haven't read that yet, I'm glad Gotrek's old friends are still getting some acknowledgement, but I really want to find out what happened with Felix, since I only just finished Manslayer. The weird thing I'm running into is the cultures of the factions, they're definitely evolved from the factions of the Old World, to some degree or another. Did they just get spawned as adults by the gods that saved their kind, and then told what their culture was, and they've followed it to the best of their ability? Or did Sigmar and his pals bring some deadies out of retirement in Shyish so they could found their old societies again, and those have experienced some cultural drift that has led to the new factions arising?

[@adambielen8996]

@@rootsnootthnute8598 Most of the races evolved naturally, the exceptions being those made by Teclis, Morathi, and Malerion. As for why there are some that are similar, well when you have hundreds of cultures you will get some that resemble old ones. This is then furthered by the Gods who already have their own way of thinking and influence their mortal worshippers. And no, they did not bring dead people back because Nagash wouldn't allow it. That is until Nagash betrayed everyone. Now Sigmar can and will resurrect the dead as Stormcasts in the Anvils of the Heldenhammer.

[@nbmoleminer5051]

Kragnos's people seem very similar to the Dragon Ogres I wonder if they are related in some way?

[@dean2_]

The mystery unfolds

[@kiesminis]

The meeting of Kragnos and Gordrakk fits the GW way of not dimensioning their heroes, Gordrakk does a few great things as does Kragnos. I'm sure eventually one of them will get a slap down till they come back stronger as is the way. Keeping us all interested in great characters to play out on the Table Top, great work again Doug

[@fouldockhag]

I don't know if it's been said here already but I think GW is calling Alarielle's ritual the Rite of Life

[@40KWill]

I like how they explain Beastgrave and the time loop. Still not sure about the insect creatures in the novel that served Kragnos.

[@lichen24moss]

So, if you want to be a deity in AOS.... you can eat realm stones and godbeasts! :D Hmm...... I wonder if the Draconith return as mounts for the Seraphon. :D

[@JamesTillmanjimthegray]

What book is this from?

[@jeffreycrowder2866]

Can't wait until the next video

[@Derpysaur123]

The green skins version of suneater

[@NickStPeter-md6sh]

I just picked up on skagrott and Gordrack are gork and mork.

[@wolfmanhcc]

I think they're closer to Mork and Gork respectively.

[@ringoutko9463]

Glad to see Gordrakk didn't get jobbed out right as he was about to do what he'd spent an entire edition building up to. The guy is Gorkamorka's chosen representative he is the Archaon to Destruction in much the way Kragnos could be interpreted as a Greater Daemon of Destruction he is to Destruction as Skarbrand is to Chaos. Gordrakk is ultimately an Orruk Demi God literally made from the body of Gorkamorka himself... Just hope he gets another shot at doing something meaningful and doesn't get left to fade into the background without a further mention in this book.

[@jadebrunner8699]

Has anyone noticed that kragnos and Krakenrock the blacks stories are nearly identical? He’s like a Mike of Krakenrock and Cholec.

[@skywatcheradept]

Good point.

[@palmsmcgee5456]

As someone who is completely new to AoS, any advice for where to start with the lore? Not sure which books/videos to start with..

[@falconpunch8734]

I'd start with the realm gate wars through to soul wars and into broken realms. It's worth noting that the lore initially wasn't that great but it's really come into its own from soul wars onwards.

[@palmsmcgee5456]

@@falconpunch8734 thanks very much man :)

[@nbmoleminer5051]

Check out 2+tough's channel for all things AoS in regards to lore.

[@palmsmcgee5456]

@@nbmoleminer5051 oh yeah it's a goldmine, I was more looking for a good starting off point to get an idea of the story as a whole, as mentioned soul wars seems to be a good starter for ten :)

[@nbmoleminer5051]

How are the Draconith and Seraphon related species wise?

[@nbmoleminer5051]

Seriously why the dislikes?

[@TheGraham27]

Must be 40k fans😂

[@bevanh.6068]

@@TheGraham27 they're too busy crying over the 15th million primaris luitenant

[@LordOmnissiah]

My guess? Some people are still salty over Age of Sigmar being the result of the Old Warhammer World blowing up.

[@skywatcheradept]

maybe it's the Beastmen or Bull Centaur players who wanted Kragnos to be their leader?

[@probsthinkingaboutfood2982]

Ohhhh Excelsis... if only you knew the terror that is heading your way 💀

[@tabhamma4451]

not only am i glad destruction got some awesome writing at least with BR since like, non of the armies got new rules, but also a awesome depiction of gordrakk and good and continue use of the kunnin in green skins, really a under used element of their racial character profile

[@Kerath]

Was Kragnos' Tribe a part of the Breyherds that ruled before Sigmar came? So he's a Beastman technically speaking? Really feels weird to have a Centaur to be a God of Destruction, how would the Beastmen react if they saw him?

[@skywatcheradept]

Kragnos has no balls.

[@wolfmanhcc]

They'd eat him.

[@slaymarbo8713]

​@@skywatcheradeptlike any damm horse

[@bubsouls9375]

Centaur

[@nbmoleminer5051]

The Draconith and Kragnos's peoples aren't extinct are they? I hope not

[@jonathanatkinson399]

The draconith or amber dragons seemed to be on their last legs with a handful of survivors or so. That said there are other dragons in the realms like the star drakes and many more so who knows. Mean while the drogrukh, kragnos's people, are truly extinct. Much sad face. But this spread of life magic could, hypothetically speaking, set up the possible return of the Drogrukh. Kragnos probably wants to find out what happened over the millennia and his people. This could bring him to either Ghyran where Alarielle might offer him a deal to bring his people back if he promises to piss off. Alternatively he could go to Shyish and try to find their souls and bring them back that way or worse the gods of chaos try to make a bargain with him where the pledges service to them either temporarily or permanently in exchange for bringing his people back. Either way there really is a lot of cool directions kragnos story could go depending on if he goes full rage monster god of earthquakes or if he chooses to bring back his people and try to be more goal oriented and non selfish.

[@forevergimmly7343]

I always understand his name as Crack noose I find it to be very funny 😅

[@GenesisJustTheStart]

Anyone else make the connection to underworld: beastgrave?

[@tremere40k]

The fight is Kong vs Godzilla lol

[@samgraafmans6329]

He kinda reminds me of Kholek Suneater of the Old World

[@nbmoleminer5051]

I'm pretty sure Kholek is still around.

[@samgraafmans6329]

@@nbmoleminer5051 Really? I hope he gets a model like this then, would be sick af

[@nbmoleminer5051]

@@samgraafmans6329 Or maybe it's his father perhaps both?

[@BladeMaster117]

I just hope he is not a one off character and that he does stuff in the future

[@Prophetofthe8thLegion]

He who stood before the world that was had been created. He who was there when his people were rused into eternal service. He who slept as the world burned. And he who with every step the realms shook. You think yourselves larger then life, mere mortals. Ha fools! For there is only one who is truly larger then life. And his name was Kragnos, for he was and is the end of empires...

[@cherryknight6911]

Well now I'm gonna imagine Kragnos being voiced by Robin Williams.

[@jaronpeek8701]

Great video. I have really enjoyed your telling of the Broken Realms material. Though I feel like they did my boy Gordrakk dirty in this one by turning him into a blunt brute without any nuance. #KragnosSucks

[@adambielen8996]

Yeah, I got that feeling too. He had always been shown as crafty and at times even philosophical. Now it just sounds as if he is just Grimgor Ironhide.

[@sirloin869]

It's sad when the avg.AOS race is basicaly a copy paste of the 40k imperium: because now every faction has an "emperor on the golden throne" & 'becomes a god' convention, bruh...

[@wolfmanhcc]

Considering every race in 40k is a whfb faction.

[@drakensgreed2350]

horsie :)

[@bobking5307]

So kolek but not kolek

[@niilofriden4465]

.

[@willangeroc]

This is somehow a WoW video now lol

[@wolfmanhcc]

No

[@rathenn6959]

Visually I used to really like him but hm... Not too keen anymore. Just a big centaur, nothing special about him really. Nothing particularly imaginative or overly interesting. Not bad, just not good either.