Kramnik insulted the NICEST guy in chess!?!?!

[@mauzolito]

I think what Kramnik says should be taken seriously. It's clear that he can't accuse anyone without proof and if he did, he was wrong. However, it is a fact that online chess contains a lot of cheating and it also happens among the chess elite because there is a lot of money at stake, Magnus himself has already said this and seemed concerned. So wanting to reduce what Kramnik says or his fight I find a little strange...everyone should charge online chess sites for more control and transparency...and respect the voice of a former world champion

[@JackMott]

If the former world champion wants respect he should quit accusing people of cheating without evidence. His behavior is shameful. People who are suspect of online chess, don't do online chess. There are boards, you can play over those.

[@jachymhrbek7610]

You are right at some points and wrong at some points. Of course cheating in online chess is a problem but Kramnik seems to acuse of cheating almost every player that beats him and his main reasons for that the player is cheating are most likely just horribly wrong and inaccurate.

[@mauzolito]

@@jachymhrbek7610 Do you think there is no such thing as cheating in elite online chess?

[@jachymhrbek7610]

@@mauzolito Iam not saying Its not possible. What Iam saying tho is that if you are acusing someone of cheating, you should have a good proof.

[@mauzolito]

@@jachymhrbek7610 I agree, he could manage to mention names without proof, but online chess needs to combat cheating and that doesn't seem to happen and the former world champion deserves to be heard in this regard

[@grownupgaming]

Kramnik offended Hikaru more by not putting him on the list lol

[@PK-xv4bg]

😂😂😂 this will always be funny

[@TruthAbidein]

Challenge accepted.

[@gmsi7d371]

LOL

[@lastrival1315]

Kramnik will even deny his existence saying “the probability of me getting selected as a sperm for the ovum is 1 in 100 million”

[@PeteQuad]

Yes. And the odds of someone winning the lottery is 1 in 300 million so anyone who wins must have cheated.

[@jgo25]

LMAO

[@bilalbil1652]

Lmfao underrated comment, should be pinned.

[@shinjishinjs6060]

xDD

[@kieran6330]

So true

[@jpworship6568]

"He is gonna be the youngest 12 year old in the history of chess." Hikaru Nakamura 18:08

[@alumpy-acho112]

Tied youngest, but still the youngest

[@blue_red_screen]

@alumpy-acho112 the comment is referring to nakamura missing the word "grandmaster" out

[@r33th]

A title that we all technically had at one point.

[@blue_red_screen]

@@r33th after taking the word "chess" out

[@alumpy-acho112]

@@blue_red_screen I know, but I’m saying he will also be the youngest twelve year old, at 12 years and 0 days and 0 minutes

[@andrewrichards1259]

Kramnik sounds like he's fired a shot at a wall and then drawn a target around it.

[@MistaOppritunity]

Lol the type of guy to record him scrambling a Rubik's cube and then post a video of it in reverse.

[@Diffusion8]

Haha! 😂

[@godfreyofbouillon966]

Damn accurate analogy

[@crusaderACR]

This is called the Texas Sharphooter Fallacy btw

[@davidnavara9428]

Thank you for your support! Several days after writing that blog I took my time to calculate how many times I had played Titled Tuesdays, and it turned out that I have "only" played 25 tournaments (rather than 30) so far. That said, it does not really change much. GM Kramnik's metric is weird for the reasons mentioned above. Anyway, it would be interesting to see his statistics in detail, as I would not be surprised at all if they also contained some miscalculations.

[@lyingcat9022]

I’m not defending him cuz he’s been WAY off base for months now. But looks like he’s got the IMs and lower rated GMs highlighted in red. Maybe he has you and the other GMs including Magnus on there as some sort of comparison. Like they should be blundering more than you, Magnus and others? Not sure what’s going on in his paranoid fever dreams so I’m just guessing. Plus I think he’s rated 900 in Technology… :)

[@PK-xv4bg]

Aeee Navara, how you doing my guy always good to see you!!

[@jeanpierrepierrrejean4199]

It's not miscalculation, but bad reasoning, very bad math method. Kramnik does not know anything about stat and proba, how they work, how reasoning when it comes to stat (which is very complex). But it's even worse : He only gives figures and talks about "stats" to "scientifically prove" his impressions (and his impressions are obviously false most of the time), which is very dishonest and the worst thing you can do with stats (all mathematicians know it), and he does this intentionally, without a doubt. At this point, after accusing many great players (like you, Hikaru and many others), Hikaru is true, it's not about the "cheating problem" anymore, Kramnik uses stat to do insinuation and defamation, that's his real goal.

[@greatpretender83]

All my support and from most of the chess comunity. Respect Navara he is the most gentleman and fair play out there. Edit maybe there are more nice fellows out there like Ding Liren...

[@AleksandrKis]

This is very simple. At some point one is either cheat or been cheated. As the tooling progresses and morals regress it will eventually become so absurd and obvious, the tables will turn. Unfortunately pioneers rarely survive their adventure. Good luck in unmoderated online tournaments btw.

[@vojtechnovacek7776]

Fun fact: Navara's highest FIDE blitz rating was 2806 (edit: which is 27th highest peak blitz rating in history)

[@t19563]

That one guy from Norway has the highest peak with 2986. Definitely interesting.

[@thomasrad5202]

@@t19563Cagnus M.

[@GrislyAtoms12]

you're right - that was a fun fact! tyvm

[@sbloomis]

Instead of doubling down on bogus methodology, Kramnik's time would be better spent taking a basic statistics course.

[@GMHikaru]

Amen bruh -- the editor

[@babstra55]

oh god, absolutely. but I think because he used to be so strong nothing can convince him his 'feeling' about someone cheating is wrong. he simply won't believe any math that doesn't agree with his 'GM guess'.

[@mihaelbablovich9463]

He motivates people with poor statistics to develop good and accurate statistics. From this perspective, Vladimir Kramnik is doing more good than harm. You could even use the term "shock therapy." He raises public awareness. Hikaru himself knows that the problem is unsolvable. Hikaru also knows that there is the possibility of cheating at practically any level. But Hikaru won't talk about the unsolvability of the problem. For now, we can only talk about the increasing sophistication of cheating and the still existing Titled Tuesday. Am I not right?

[@TymexComputing]

Exactly - he didnt show the variance value and he could have used median estimate instead of average - its more "natural" - average is more geometrical/mathematical estimate.

[@babstra55]

​@@mihaelbablovich9463 I think we might have a practical chance because human processing is fundamentally different from computers. it will have some sort of 'human finngerprint" AI might be able to recognize. what I'm thinking is we might be for example able to teach AI to spot 'critical moves' in games, then check only those over large number of games. then for comparison we make two sets of games, one with only non-cheating games (like all master games from pre-computer era) and another set with GMs deliberately using engine on one critical move per game, and then we see if we can establish a level of cheated move matches which no player in history has been able to beat. like lets say we find out the most accurate player in history only reaches 78% on critical moves over 30 games, and someone gets 92% over 30 games, we might be able to say something useful about that.

[@avramtsvi]

Kramnik’s Psychiatrist: Vladimir, you’re suffering from paranoid delusions. Kramnik: That is the exact diagnosis ChatGPT gave me. 100% diagnostic accuracy. Veeeery Iiinteresting.

[@lb3598]

lets do the procedure

[@paulgoogol2652]

Psychiatrist: Ok, ok. You got me. I won't charge a bill for this. Bye.

[@gabrieljarajaramillo5570]

based on statistics, the psychiatrist is probably wrong.

[@GrislyAtoms12]

@@gabrieljarajaramillo5570 the psychiatrist was obviously cheating at chess. and probably checkers too!

[@fuerstmetternich1997]

Kramnik needs professional help.

[@CheckmateSurvivor]

You need Jesus. Please repent.

[@sheridan5175]

@@CheckmateSurvivor Eh?

[@YOSHIKAGEKIRA61]

Bro watched a 20min video in 7min😂😂

[@danielward7008]

He's turned to attention seeking to keep himself relevant. It's working.

[@mav1877]

@@danielward7008 For sure, he seems to have histrionic personality disorder.

[@ryanseay1682]

"If someone performs better than me, they must be cheating." --- Kramnik, probably

[@diegotejada55]

Nah, he does The Procedure even when he wins , the only requisite is to perform at all

[@ashrobinson4604]

He won’t stop until he is successfully sued.

[@AlephThree]

It’s difficult though, you have to demonstrate financial loss to be awarded damages.

[@ashrobinson4604]

@@AlephThree Not true. Damage to reputation is enough to receive financial compensation.

[@scottcunning4221]

In addition to damages issues, Kramnik is basically disclosing the bases for his opinions. At least in US, it would be difficult to even show him liable for defamation because it is an opinion based on disclosed facts. The fact that his statistical arguments are bogus, doesn’t matter. In fact, it helps him because it means it is easier for others to look at the disclosed facts and judge for themselves.

[@yuri5k]

well, kramnik is basically russian conspirator.

[@MistaOppritunity]

Real question, how do you sue someone in a different country that potentially has different laws than you, or that might not want to persecute a prominent person in that countries history? I could see Russia ixnaying that immediately because they don't want to bastardize a former chess world champion from their country.

[@opicevakci7732]

poor Navara, Kramnik really crossed the line here... I used to take him as a meme but can't anymore, he's just insane at this point

[@dessertstorm7476]

What point is he even trying to make anyway. There has to be a top ten on any given stat you want to come up with. You could just post a list of top ten players and say "enjoy"

[@TymexComputing]

I am sure he only pointed the first one on the list - he was off by 30% of that "average" centipawn mistake, whereas you are making 1 centipawn mistake each move just by not mating yet so after 100 moves (plys) you are one pawn down :)

[@kkarx]

Actually Navara has asperger which basically means he is nuts. People with asperger are very often extremely narcisstic, they are often cheaters and pathological liars. I would not believe crazy Navara a word. The fact that he writes this crap only persuaded me he is likely indeed a cheat. People with asperger hate when they are caught, they turn the reality upside down and blame the one who caught them. They can't help it.

[@josemanuico5613]

I kinda agree but caruana thinks also that more than 50% of top players cheat online

[@berryesseen]

Kramnik crossed the line when he accused the Erdogmus kid last year. The kid had no way to respond. The only thing he could do was to rise up in FIDE rating and he did eventually. He became the highest elo player in history before age 13. Kramnik doesn’t understand that you can play Titled Tuesday when lying on your bed but you have to travel for FIDE ratings.

[@cybermandan1960]

At this point we're waiting on Kramnik to report the clock when he loses on time.

[@YtubeUserr]

"The clock is an obvious cheater. Let's do the procedure on the clock"

[@jackc7442]

This clock seems to have 100% accuracy. Interesting.

[@HariShankar-bw2bt]

He just did in the 'Battle of the Claims' match vs Jospem

[@autocomplaciente]

Well, that just happened...

[@cybermandan1960]

@@autocomplaciente What? No way! I was joking lol

[@zapalblizh]

someone needs to accuse kramnik of cheating with bogus statistics and see how he likes that

[@yuri5k]

but Kramnik was caught cheating, and he even acknowledged that he was cheating on titled tuesday, by playong on other player account. caught cheater, is accusing others, that is whats absurd on this

[@zapalblizh]

@@yuri5k really? wow

[@coolguyhino92]

....he's not good enough anymore to plant the same cheating accusations on him

[@UOUPv2]

Google toilet gate

[@richhenry8004]

He's like one of the comic book villains that think they are doing a good thing but are actually the bad guy.

[@Gayatri_18]

Real-life Thanos 😂

[@ari3903]

I want to say J. Jonah Jameson, but Jameson is actually a nice guy and has a point. This guy does not.

[@rolandblock2530]

Delusional.

[@areheptus6566]

Kramnik needs a procedure on himself

[@upStomp]

QxFrontalLobe

[@chickenoil8663]

Shutter Island the mf

[@theshadow6165]

😂

[@Adam-sm5zf]

Lobotomy

[@alejandroacosta8039]

"Minimum 700 moves" then adds magnus is right there with 572😂

[@FahimHoq]

His math/stats are all over the place 😂😂😂

[@Rechnerstrom]

This is probably Kramniks reference. The meaning would be that no player can make less mistakes than the best player in the world. So they must be cheating.

[@youuuuuuuuuuutube]

Navarra's got a point: the cheaters actually blunder MORE in the end game and LESS in the opening, so actually to detect cheaters, you would need to look at the bottom of the table, not at the top!

[@AleksandrKis]

That's unless you toggle a checkbox in the chess bot so it can play the rest of the game with the precision and pace you've set it to. Study the tooling capabilities first. It really shouldn't be that straightforward as using the engine on the second device and streaming covers your expenses by a lot. Even not a very tech savvy person can handle it nowdays.

[@stefcioss1]

Yea, but then It would be pretty easy to detect when your end game moves will be within the same pace and Perfect each end game, its much complex to cheats on such high level

[@r.t.5767]

​@@AleksandrKis That kind of cheating is the easiest to detect. You just need to detect suspicious input, that's a - comparatively - very easy task (and tools for that existed for almost 2 decades). It is also a 100% proof of cheating, so you don't even need to investigate the games, you can just ban someone immediately.

[@plottwistaftercredits3144]

18:04 youngest 12 year old in the history of the game of chess 😂😂

[@sushinfudoshin8991]

At this point, Kramnik is in dire need to find out after f****ing around enough. Seriously, not just figuratively.

[@logirex]

FIDE is run by Russians so nothing is ever going to happen to Kramnik.

[@mauricemaurice133]

@@ДетскийканалСолнышко-е5мwell then Kramnik should bring actual prove instead of throwing a bunch of shit at a wall and hoping some sticks

[@michalrehacek3462]

@@mauricemaurice133 Hello good sir, I think it should be "proof" (but I am not a native speaker) - with your comment I do agree otherwise ;-)

[@michalrehacek3462]

@@ДетскийканалСолнышко-е5м Hikaru probably doesn't need me to, but I want to defend him here. 1) where and when have you heard him deny that there are cheaters in Titled Tuesday? 2) what is the proper way from your point of view to talk about cheating and getting rid off it? My two cents: a) Respectable grandmasters I heard talk about this topic (Danya, Hikaru or Fabi) do not deny that there is cheating going on online and even OTB to some extent. They do voice concerns however about Kramnik's methodology as many if not all of his accusations are baseless. b) Sharing gibberish stats and baseless accusations does more harm than good to the cause of "getting rid off cheaters". It gives actual cheaters more room to hide and it turns the general public against conspirators like Kramnik. c) Titled Tuesday cheating specifically has been dissected by Fabi on his C-Squared podcast, where he goes in detail about his own experience and describes how unlikely it is to keep losing in the first rounds against people who give up later on in the tournament. I would recommend looking up that episode. He offers much more trustworthy and balanced take on the whole matter. d) Kramnik is just a reminder to everybody that it doesn't matter how successful you are in a particular field. You can even be a world champion and you can still decide to switch careers and become a clown.

[@Joe-og6br]

@@ДетскийканалСолнышко-е5м people cheat in many aspects of life. However, you can't go about basely accusing people. Especially when you are a former world champion.

[@Entropy825]

Kramnik's handling of statistics is like shooting an arrow into a wall and then drawing a bullseye around it

[@deepaklachman9340]

Agreed 100%

[@Unknown-jt1jo]

Also known as the Texas Sharpshooter.

[@jaekn]

There is probably a service wherein you can pay Kramnik to call you a cheater to increase your personal brand recognition. Step 1. Don't look like a cheater in the stats, Step 2. Give Kramnik a puppy, which he will eat. Step 3. Kramnik puts together a list of "stats" to defame you. Step 4. You have a cry and write an overly long defense of yourself. Step 5. People come to your aid, follow your videos and rally behind you.

[@PK-xv4bg]

Is that some hikari move 😂

[@nuagor]

Hurt people hurt people. Hopefully Kramnik can find peace.

[@davidsantiago7808]

He's washed up and bitter because he's too slow so he's taking it out on everyone else

[@CarlDidur]

Your analysis at 11:45 is totally spot on. It is an exhausting strategy because, as you point out, it takes much more effort to dispute than a clearly articulated hypothesis. Hope more good people don't get sucked into this morasse.

[@David_7171]

I won’t be surprised if kramnik calls the ghostbusters

[@MondstaubMusik]

FIDE taking action...already a though ask! FIDE taking action against Krammnik? LOL!

[@BluSpykz]

Kramnik's response to Navara's complaint was truly something too; quote "...writing an official complain against YOUR OWN TRUE STATS getting published is a new height of absurd, since there was no indication whatsoever that it can mean suspicions of him. Fantasies of others arent my responsibility." - followed by a meme stating "it must be exhausting being offended by everything." Outrageous.

[@AfonsoCL]

Typical Russian tactics at this point, can't be too surprised. The fact that he thinks he's being smart is the funniest thing to me.

[@paulhuang2030]

Wow projection much? Tell me where kramnik accuses him of cheating. He's just saying it's interesting. But the fact that Navara thinks he's being accused of cheating itself is quite interesting.

[@strategicsage7694]

@@paulhuang2030 The obvious implication of posting it and saying 'interesting' is that the people listed are cheating.

[@anachronismic]

@@paulhuang2030this rhetoric stopped working in like 2017 man, it’s clear what someone who has gone on a tirade about cheaters online means when they post some stats and say “interesting”.

[@paulhuang2030]

@@strategicsage7694 sorry I was actually joking but rereading this a week later it wasn't funny.

[@ashrobinson4604]

Kramnik is engaging in defamation/libel. He should have his a** sued off! His accusations are statistically unsound and as a result will be false in some, if not many instances. He should also be sanctioned by FIDE (if possible) for ethics violations and bringing the game into disrepute.

[@pieradgr548]

What exactly was statistically unsound in the data he provided?

[@ashrobinson4604]

@@pieradgr548 The statistics didn’t support his insinuation. I think this was explained in the video. Did you watch it?

[@pieradgr548]

@@ashrobinson4604 still you are not able to explain exactly was statistically unsound. Did you think before replying?

[@ashrobinson4604]

@@pieradgr548 You are correct: the statistics are innocent. Kramnik’s insinuation based on the statistic is unsound. This was made clear in the video. I hope that helps you understand a point that was reasonably clear in the first place.

[@BurgerCheese2]

​@@pieradgr548 Just watch the video. You are commenting on a video that disproves what Kramnik said lol. No one should have to explain this to you.

[@manjilmanjil3003]

Wow there is Magnus Carlsen also in the list 😂

[@Colby_0-3_IRL_and_title_fights]

He's performing too strongly for his rating. Let's start the procedure.

[@Smokingdude]

​@@Colby_0-3_IRL_and_title_fightstf is that sarcasm

[@MiahooJunk]

Isn't it for comparison?

[@jojojo3521]

​@Smokingdude Of course that comment is sarcastic, both sentences are written in perfectly sarcastic manner. No way anyone can't get it.

[@jonmetaphorist1327]

The reason why Kramnik is doing this as I can see is that he just loses a lot of games due to blunders under 10 seconds. He just does this for his self-esteem.

[@Anonymous-q5i3j]

this is Kramnik's Bobby Fisher moment

[@adriankenny7717]

The absolute arrogance of kramnik is astounding

[@DomiaAbrWyrda]

Kramnik is so bad at statistics I would be laughing if not for all the people suffering because of his accusations

[@jaekn]

He is Russia's fact liaison, which is why they invaded Ukraine.

[@Dr_Kenneth_Noisewater]

Narcissist: I'm never wrong. I thought I was wrong once, but I was wrong.

[@PokePoki]

Sounds like he might be suffering from a skill issue

[@HowThatHappen]

I do agree it's out of control that people feel they need to defend themselves against highly likely completely false accusations. There needs to be repercussions for consistent false accusations like this so that they'll stop.

[@Drumaier]

Wtf Is wrong with me, I read the INCEST guy and took me forever to realize it was the NICEST 🙄

[@mikerosa1276]

Both you and kramnik need professional help

[@ractmo]

your mind filled with the filth that you watched through your childhood.

[@sk818factory5]

You have dexelica

[@DnZpcGaming]

Too used to read pron sites prob.

[@jacobshroyer2420]

Oh good, I'm not the only one.

[@danielguel1897]

It's not going to be long before Kramnik somehow puts himself on the list!

[@chriszhang1660]

No. He has bad mouse skills so he won’t have so many moves under 10s. He would lose on time instead of blunder under 10s.

[@greatpretender83]

Topalov put him there after their World Chess Championship match.

[@MartinZanichelli]

I play so bad that even Kramnik is sure I am not cheating.

[@iltrovatoremanrico]

Kramnik unhinged

[@bobafett9423]

Kramnik should promote his own tourney as Tilted Tuesday

[@davidlightman6801]

FIDE should consider revoking Kramnik's GM title for this.

[@Casa-de-hongos]

Yes

[@natefiftystandards]

​@HaroldNeshevwell said

[@strategicsage7694]

absolutely not. Kramnik's behavior does not in any way invalidate his achievements in chess. Those are two different things.

[@alessandrorigobello7551]

not at all. once GM ( and world champion...) forever GM and world champion. he is not a cheater.

[@filipepereira2688]

When I saw "nicest guy in chess" I immediately thought this was gonna be about Eric Rosen lol

[@greatpretender83]

Navara's seniority trumps Rosen.

[@golendorfjules1838]

5:40 [about david navarra] "he is literally one of the nicest GM, probably the nicest GM i know of" >>>>>> he is the only GM that doesn't hate naka :D

[@hieveryone.8508]

golendorfjules. You are that person who thinks he is very funny, but everyone thinks you are cringe and not likeable. Lol.

[@Snakles08]

Can’t wait for Kramnik to accuse Magnus after he found that mate in two against Ding.

[@mastersgaming7561]

Literally he put David navara in this list😂😂😂

[@johnupper5225]

Accusing Navarra of cheating??? Kramnik suffering from terminal case of Russian paranoia.

[@mathiaspimentel7571]

Kramnik is on his "statistics" arc

[@lokman02naza17]

You know it’s bad when kramnik open excel 😂😂😂

[@abelmarinez]

You also insulted a nice guy, and u know who I'm talking about.

[@nagillack]

I think David comes across about 10 times more coherent and analytic than "THE ACCUSER", he's done a great job at being diplomatic!!

[@chesspokergmgonzalez9105]

I retired from chess after the US championship in 2006. I barely played after that over the board. I used to play online and got the feeling as well that something was fishy since lower rated players played similar to engines but did not care since the games didn't mean much. To my surprise I was forced to change my mind in 2022. I played 2 life events in the Bahamas and Cuba and most players playing exactly the same "suspicious" way. I then realized chess had changed and players started playing different and more precise.

[@EyItsAsh]

What if Kramnik is cheating, he seems to have high accuracy, think he should be investigated

[@brandondean2530]

Kramnik went from the iceberg, who had no nerves, to Bobby Fisher.

[@bitterblue8115]

Hikaru's constant attacks on Nepo are really lame

[@GMHikaru]

Nepo has accused Hikaru of cheating. I think Hikaru has a right to say what he wants -- the editor

[@JoseCinnamon]

You stood up and exposed this madman for who he is at this point. Other big chess channels should do the same

[@MisterMrad]

1:47 Carlsen hasn't yet achieved any chess title lmao

[@elliotbehling2189]

12:10 - Kramnik is using something called a gish gallop

[@neverconsidered2193]

What a convenient term! We see this everywhere these days.

[@pnksmigge5324]

Kramnik showing signs of delusion is no laughing matter.

[@nis99]

Kramnik has gone mad.

[@rolandblock2530]

Kramnik’s ego can’t let him believe that elite chess players have passed him by.

[@pauljoseph3081]

Prime Kramnik maybe gone, but his *ego* surely remains at the top.

[@TeemuSintonen]

People playing well with 10 seconds on the clock. Kramnik: "Very interesting..."

[@petergeerts3224]

Can someone of Hikaru's content team suggest Hikaru makes a roast video of Danny Rensch doing his chess 'analysis' of Alireza Firouzja vs Ding Liren. (Moment: Norway chess - Alireza Firouzja has 35 min left on the clock). Danny's face when the eval bar swings is priceless.. one of the best chess moments of the year

[@giaccomusic]

David Navara performance hit support and rebounded like stocks. The whole thing with players having to justify themselves is becoming ridiculous.

[@natigo121]

"Its not about cheating anymore" was such a hard line

[@mrsir8968]

The most offensive thing is that magnus is not a gm on the list

[@confused_blink7367]

Kramnik has been crying wolf for months, not sure why anyone should take him seriously anymore with these random accusations.

[@noahmathews9456]

Kramnik is the biggest Titled Tuesday fan in the world at this point. Never misses a result!

[@Maxtor-ve5nu]

this is like in wrestling, where the old wrestlers have same mumbo jumbo takes on younger wrestlers

[@unclebob1959]

I guess Krammnik's arthritis has finally gone to his head.

[@Littledunc1]

The youngest 12 year old in the history of ches -- Hikaru

[@ethan073]

The most surprising thing is that Kramnik’s jurisdiction is Nashville

[@thefixer742]

I think Navara wasn't a suspect of cheating by Kramnik, only the ones in "red" (below 2600 rating)

[@greatpretender83]

That's the problem K just goes throwing acussations and hidding the hand. Trafficking on allegations and twisted words to in his mind avoid legal reprecutions.

[@strategicsage7694]

If so, then he needs to come out and say that. When you post a list without being specific, you're implying that everyone on the list is cheating.

[@SuperEgo19]

I find this video pretty suspicious. Let’s check the procedure.

[@Hyoutonbr]

First jospem and now navara, kramnik really doesn't mind putting in jeopardy entire chess careers, almost in a psychopath way

[@AgusMulyandi]

Kramnik is like one kid at a school that doesn't like everything if it's not in his favors, even though is useless for anybody else. But for him is so important.

[@ashotbombila4675]

Another problem with these accusations is that if so many people cheat at chess, then it becomes somewhat justifiable. Imagine that you are playing in an online event and you are sure that your opponent is cheating. Why not cheat against a cheater? If you both don't play fair, that's also kind of fair play. If you promote cheating long enough, it can become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

[@sreekanth7223]

Somebody dig up Kramnik games and send it to him anonymously and he will end up accusing and quitting chess completely

[@StraightRocketFuel]

Kramnik just can’t accept that he’s no longer relevant. You aren’t that good anymore man, it happens.

[@4dragonzzz]

at this point it should just be considered a badge of honor to be called out by kramnik. just means you're playing well lol

[@NotNagruf]

More DRAMA! 😂 TO MAKE CHESS MORE POPULAR! Kramnik is a hero! ❤

[@zekkozen2087]

Kramnik is going senile already

[@КатеринаК-у1ч]

многие ещё не осознают, но с развитием ИИ и программ шахматы он-лайн уже умерли, малые остатки честных игроков будут играть (и проигрывать) против уродов с программами и ничего никто не докажет, ибо "в единичной партии любой может победить любого" и эту гипотезу толкают не только читеры, но шахматисты, которые не могут поверить в возможность того, что люди могут читерить. many people still do not realize, but with the development of AI and programs, online chess has already died, small remnants of honest players will play (and lose) against freaks with programs and no one will prove anything, because "in a single game anyone can beat anyone" and this hypothesis is pushed not only by cheaters, but by chess players who they cannot believe in the possibility that people can cheat.

[@rotvonrat]

Naka reads Kramnik's statistics like the devil reads the Bible.

[@theshadow6165]

Kramnik should say that when he loses people cheat automatically no questions asked

[@waynejohnson1075]

Who cares what Kramnik says? ...only Kramnik Jealous, spiteful speculation from someone who can't embrace the evolution of the game he once fell in love with, and now, he just isn't that good anymore. Chess is in a Golden Age. Online vs OTB Rapid, Blitz, Classical, Random 4 player Chess Young talent from around the globe challenging the norm. Take your pick, learn and have fun. FIDE need to act. Or, the accused players need to get together and ask for some actual evidence, in court.

[@michalrehacek3462]

I am from the Czech Republic and it's nice to see another example of David being a good sport and great representation of chess culture. Albeit I do admit that taking Kramnik's words as if they were published in good faith, is a bit naive at this point. But what can David do? He is simply too well intentioned and probably hopes that others will have the same mindset.

[@michaelhorn278]

Of note, Kramnik does not list his own accuracy of play stats as it would reveal his cognitive chess diminution.

[@shigure_puriyuji]

Didn't know Prof. Kramnik teaches data analytic science at university.

[@qualcunoacaso4865]

He can't accept that he's not as sharp as he was and that chess players' quality grew much faster than when he was on his prime

[@davidmasse2829]

When I saw the list Kramnik made I did feel they were likely cheaters. I’m glad David explained it:

[@KleinmeisterPang]

Everyone who has ever seen GM Navara play must feel disgusted. This tschech GM is the most respectful and friendly GM I have ever seen. He has super good manners is respectful to every opponent and seems to be generally saying a good human.

[@mr_mr]

thanks for being level headed about this stuff

[@MrMarlowe3488]

I feel like the best thing kramnik is doing for chess rn is forcing everyone to maybe pump the breaks on accusing EVERYONE who happens to be a 2500 GM who managed to beat someone higher rated than them of cheating by just showing how ridiculous it can get if you take it to its logical conclusion

[@pedroakjr2371]

ThE YoUnGEsT 12 YeArs olD

[@Amayuscula]

He stills taking pictures to the screen.

[@martinpaddle]

I thought the same when I first saw Navara's post. Why does he have to justify his results? He doesn't owe Kramnik anything.

[@susbedo9258]

On Kramnik, Magnus: "I don't think Kramnik knows how to use statistics correctly"

[@kushalsingh9529]

Cheating is more rampant in elite online chess and is difficult to prove...