Kreia and Ulysses Debate Choice and Consequence

While Ulysses awaited The Courier at the end of The Lonesome Road, he was visited by Kreia, who carried a warning against Ulysses' plan to destroy the NCR and Legion. The two debate choices and consequences, with Kreia pointing out the greater implications of a singular cruelty, while Ulysses talks endlessly about Bear and Bull nonsense.
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[@Scout-164]

It feels so weird seeing these two debate considering they're both Author Avatars of Chris Avellone. It's like Avellone is debating himself.

[@AndyJP]

Throw in Durance from PoE and whoever gets the other two to shut up is the winner.

[@ST0AT]

Me when I don't take my schizophrenia pills:

[@Bacxaber]

Ulysses complaining about speaking in riddles, lmao

[@neilhannan5112]

I want Kreia to have a talk with Aang about Rebuilding the World after 100 year War and how to avoid a war like that again

[@tuckernutter]

I feel like they'd respect each other, too.

[@shadowpoet4398]

4:30 At this point I would say "Reality: You can not rebuild. You can only build. It's way too late to rebuild."

[@aleksandarvil5718]

Steve Rogers/Captain America and Anakin Skywalker having debate on sacrifices and determination...

[@animesmartass732]

The Ruined Jedi Enclave theme hits my heartstrings every time

[@ethrsag735]

I'd love to see you bring Revan into the debates, especially in three different entities with each based on a different level of progression in his life; Pre-KOTOR/Mandalorian Wars, Post-Kotor/Swtor, Swtor Revan DLC.

[@camendiv]

The thing about Kreia that I always remember is that literally everything she says and does is to justify her decisions to kill off the Jedi council and attempt to kill the Force, or at least sever the galaxy's connection to it. That's Kreia in a nutshell. She isn't interested in what you think, only in trying to convince you that she is right.

[@XSilver_WaterX]

Oddly and ironically, Kria is kinda right that the Cosmic Force acts like a mutual-to-parasitic entity on the galaxy's life as a whole, the non-canon legacy short book try to contradict it but life in the galaxy is NEVER peaceful as it still continues the tradition of predator-prey relations.

[@camendiv]

@@XSilver_WaterX Without the Force, people will just find something else to fight about. Especially when we have a sociopath (Kreia) trying to impose her will on the rest of the galaxy.

[@camendiv]

@@XSilver_WaterX People will find something to fight about with or without the Force. Kreia herself proves that fact, being a sociopath who tried to impose her will on the rest of the galaxy.

[@papapalps2415]

​@@XSilver_WaterXThis is not even vaguely accurate, no.

[@camendiv]

@@XSilver_WaterX People will find something to fight about with or without the Force. The funny thing about Kreia talking about choice and consequence is that she could never take responsibility for her own personal failures, blaming the Force while Meetra cleaned up the consequences.

[@zondrabarth4508]

The two most expansive, incredibly well-written fictional characters of all time interacting literally is a dream come true, even if it's done with AI. Speechless, dude. Love it all. 😃❤

[@user-wr4sl3nz5y]

the speech is done with AI?

[@zondrabarth4508]

@@user-wr4sl3nz5y Says in the description & at the end of the video.

[@dariuswoods5312]

Duncan or Alistair from Dragon age and Geralt debate the similarities and differences of the grey wardens and witchers would be cool

[@shadowpoet4398]

Also, this channel RULES!!!!!!!!!

[@alicearial6055]

Ryan fit so well, feel Yi Suchong might work well with someone in fallout! Amazing videos, glad it came on my recomends!

[@derekbambenek7803]

I wonder what would come out of Kreia v. Joshua Grahm?

[@turtleman7504]

Wow, this is amazing.

[@paytonturner1421]

Can you do a video on guests and Mulan? Also, I like to see a video on Gaston and Goliath from gargoyles.

[@brooklynmyers5551]

The chosen one , the lone wornder, the courier, sole survivor all have change the wasteland for better or worst because war never change but men change thorugh the roads they walk and history is wirtien by the victors ulysses should learn from the past so he could prevent history from repenting

[@grimmseti]

Ooh! How about Kreia and Eren Jager discuss the Rumbling?

[@CopeSeethorntin]

Say what you will about Kreia though she might understand Eren she would call him Dilulu as by this point he isn't doing it for the eldians, but to protect his child like dream as by this point he had gone of his rockers. His dream was to explore the world beyond the Walls and now that world is gone, though she would defenetly understand and sympathise with Erin, theres zero ends for when the means truly end. At least when Ulysses decides to pulls the plug it would only destroy the isle 15 chocking the NCR, and Ceaser unable to claim the NCR in triumph as the returning Emperor come to turn the republic in to a proper Empire, his legion would turn on itself and fade away into the anals of history over night like every Empire that came before it. Though Ulysses is 100 percent wrong to use nukes, at the very least less than a couple hundred people would die in the intital strike and it would only affect the NCR government and society. Compare to the death toll that would rise if either side wins. And even though the republic would fall life would go on in the wasteland as it always had, people will be born, live and die just as they did in the old world. Really nothing would change in the wasteland whether or not the Legion, House or the NCR stoped existing other than a nother power vacume to be filled. Don't get it twisted though Ulysses does have a point relating to the wider wasteland, his still defently wrong to and has no position to be judge, jurry and executioner for 2 entire society. But at least his actions would npt directly hurt or kill that many people (directly at least) Erins plan has zero winners in the end and the losers would be the dozens of generation's that would suffer till the entire human race is extinguished. Though kria (being no better than Ulysses or Erin to be honest) would sympathise with Erin she would see him as just a Sick man who had a hard life and though deserves better would need to be stoped for better or for worse.

[@TheOzBear]

İ have a video idea about Joshua graham and Max payne debating gods existence.

[@deathjam278]

Homelander vs Rorschach?

[@RestlessRebel]

Can you do one for JC Denton/Helios (Deus Ex) and S.H.O.D.A.N.(System Shock)?

[@aleksandarvil5718]

5:30 Exact Kreia's Opinion on Jedi Order during Clone Wars...

[@ActualAseelGamer]

Do you voice these your own with Speech to Speech?

[@TheCouriersGambit]

Not usually, just T2S, but sometimes it doesn't get the line-reading just right so I go in and do S2S.

[@blas610]

Can you do if the ghost meet limited Legion

[@aleksandarvil5718]

Rorschach & Billy The Butcher debate !!!

[@6theMSDemon]

Kinda wanna see Joseph Seen debate with either Joe Rogan or Batman.

[@morgant.dulaman8733]

I wonder what Kreia would think of the government system and philosophy in Starship Troopers (the book).

[@CandyChaos7]

The Courier shall end Ulysses's madness!

[@travosjavos8824]

Bear and Bull

[@wisdomcube3.019]

Hey, I watched plenty of your videos and they are amazing. I have a request. Have Gorilla Grodd from DC and Koba from Planet of the Apes discuss their views on humanity since they both seek to end the human race. What do you think about doing a video on that? Kee it up regardless, your videos are fun to watch.

[@Jeb-Slim-Jonson-mb3qx]

Two of the biggest yap demons at it again

[@koltonlomas7111]

Hey this is an idea for a video edward Richthofen from call of duty meets. Joshua Graham

[@Fck_the_atf]

I know this is going to sound like a dumb request but please do Haytham Kenway (assassins creed) vs Joshua Graham on freedom and control. The bounds of which people should be free or under some form of control/government. I would live to see Joshua Graham’s take on this and it also kinda fits the theme of New Vegas with the NCR VS the Legion.

[@terrarune]

Classic boy scout save-the-world Superman would never bend the knee to Kreia.