ExileCon's ARPG Roundtable Hosted By Kripp!

The legends of the ARPG game genre come together in one place! The panel features, David Brevik, Max Schaefer, Erich Schaefer, Travis Baldree, Chris Wilson, and Erik Olofsson!
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[@brozzy1116]

This is hands down one of the best panels, I’ve ever seen. The godfathers of ARPGS all on stage together with their own takes. Truely one of the best moments.

[@Allenar4]

Something I never thought would happen and probably won't ever happen again. It's amazing, every person up there is on the mount Rushmore of arpgs. Yes too many heads but all deserved

[@PeterPan-fk5nq]

Kripp, after your interview with Roggers and now this one: you have very nice moderating skills! The calmness, well prepared and not afraid of asking…just sovereign! Thumbs up

[@deaDParrot88]

I notice eric was wanting to speak on the question of "How does playing your own game feel vs playing a game you had no hand in?" before they moved on, but i got the feel that he really enjoys playing his own games, the man has a passion in game creation.

[@sammyjenkis5260]

Its so refreshing to listen to OGs that tried really hard to make the most enjoyable games to play and not necessarily the most profitable ones

[@seeker296]

Ikr. I hope the gaming community nurtures passionate devs and learns to value games that don't milk them

[@MrJoBilly]

If people like the game, the more likely others will want to join in on the literal fun. Makes sense from an economic standpoint :D

[@darpsyxer]

Hey Kripp this was actually my favorite part of Exilecon! very well done man

[@a1pha_star]

Every part with Kripp was my favorite. 😂

[@RanjakarPatel]

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[@MegasSalavatis]

In D2 I liked the fact that all types had potential value. Some of the most valuable items were white normal items (such as a 15 ed/15 dur 3 socket Archon Plate or Dusk Shroud or an ethereal bugged sacred armour). In the long run, elite ethereal weapons or armour bases were much more valuable than uniques. On the other hand, rares were in most cases only used in very early game unless they were rings or amulets. However, the absolutely most expensive items were rares that were BiS for PvP. That created an interesting issue. If you tried to get uniques and rares you needed to invest in magic finding gear. The mf gear though deprived you of the opportunity to get (white) bases for runewords. The best balanced itemization ever created imho.

[@seeker296]

Very insightful. I wish I had experienced d2

[@shanehodges6980]

Agree and it was always so interested and exciting to loot these some what "odd" valuable items that only an experienced player could detect and TRADE for it's value, if it was just a heavily restricted system, with that we wouldn't have these oddly rare and desirable items that generated the same amount of "dopamine" and would largely have just been left alone on the ground or rotted away in a stash.. these memories just drive home to me how magical trading was and can be.

[@Azzy-cy9mt]

They were all so interesting to listen to I could listen on for hours. You did an incredible job hosting Kripp👍

[@DanMProductionsBois]

Yeah I could listen to this for 6 hrs

[@DanMProductionsBois]

Also they should all combine to make a mega game.

[@TheXavierfull]

@@DanMProductionsBois In a group with many talented individuals, creative differences may come to split them apart and also their personalities.

[@th3orist]

Listening to these guys talk is just so wholesome because you feel that they really do love games and come from a gamer background. Also Chris Wilson giving credit to the D1/D2 guys is so nice to see and they also appreciate him for the work he did with PoE (and hopefully with PoE2) and how much he contributed to keeping the arpg genre up and running and evolving it with all the systems and nuances in PoE. But then again, it would've been cool if one of the D4 leads would have been there too.

[@GoodMrFe]

Really enjoyed this video and I feel it gave so much insight into how people behind the game think. These people are absolute legends. Really loved some of the answers like the part with butcher and how difficulty used to be brutal. That really hits close because I yearn those times where the game just simply whacked you around like you were nothing.

[@vincelot86]

I had a huge smile on my face through the whole thing. I wish we get more of this in the future. Kripp once again awesome as a host. Well done

[@ineedcoffee2575]

I am so so happy the Fate dev made it out here. I never played that game extensively but I feel like it's one so many people can say they tried and have good memories with

[@vitrous2]

Incredible to see these Goliaths of the ARPG genre all together on one panel. So much of todays APRG/Games are built on the foundation that these guys laid over 20 years ago

[@luisfidalgo9128]

Good old Path Of Exile, when i realised that they invited the guy that, around 10 years ago, made me fell in love for this game, made me love poe even more! Just beacause they know where the comunnity is, and who've been here with them from the beggining! Invinting Krip, for me, is like they invited me as well, and made so much sense! I felt like i did when saw poe for the first time 10 years ago! Amazing job Krip, and well deserved invite, thank you for giving voice to our questions.

[@jackcarver1492]

Hellgate London!

[@starfreek101]

The fresh meat answer was soo good. My first time seeing that boss was at like 11 at night in a dark room in middle school. Scared the crap out of me.

[@jkdia007]

35:42 man that act 5 first feels running with npc barbs... Made me wish they put that on all acts and made the game feel more alive

[@myrrhaj6481]

killer content. phenomenal panel. Can't WAIT to see Kripp back in PoE2.

[@Staynes89]

Kripp wasnt lying when he said this could have been 10 hours and too short. What great game dev minds to have on a panel. Great moderation aswell Kripp.

[@matprovost13]

Your questions were so good. You did such a good job and that panel was fantastic. Thank you.

[@blech71]

Such COOM in awe at the gods of the genre! How awesome the respect towards the true B-North kings. So awesome

[@Studiozh]

they should all come together to work on POE2

[@W.M.1]

Kripp, what a legend, amongst legends. Chris watching Asmond 😂😂😂

[@dotareborn]

David Brevik

[@streetsurgery]

What an amazing panel

[@SJCOFFIClAL]

Wow had no idea I’d enjoy this so much

[@Disclaimer-Alert]

Very refreshing to hear these game dev making great games for us, not money pit games.

[@virrah18]

kripp saying "quality tho" at the end.! i feel that.

[@holonaut]

Dialogue skippers unite. As much as I like D4 for what it is, it truly has the most miserable hack&slash experience of any game I ever played from the start up until you beat the story, due to the insane amount of dialogue you have to skip through, how much you have to walk behind NPCs, wait for animations to finish, and so on. I wish any of those guys on stage had a say in the design of that game. All I could think while playing was "D2 is a game system with a story slapped onto it. D4 is a story with a game system slapped onto it" I already loved Travis Baldree for his work on Rebel Galaxy Outlaw - super fun no-nonsense space game - where he somehow was the main (and I think only) programmer, voiced half of all the NPCs and also made the marketing videos. Absolute unit of a gamedev. And then he goes on to openly hate story/dialogue in games about as passionately as I do. Had a blast watching this.

[@MrHall8]

3:37 pog

[@ThereIsHopeThroughJesus]

Reall enjoyable talk. This is quality content. 💯 thank you!

[@AbovenxBeyond]

Your an awesome host and do really well at interviewing. Keep up the great work!

[@williamcrosby1061]

It's been 1 minute...

[@AbovenxBeyond]

@@williamcrosby1061 I've seen this segment on the official POE channel already.

[@TheMongobasher]

Gods talking about our world. This was glorious

[@DrSamGalactic]

Vampire survivor PoE league would be sick. Maybe it can be a way to create a mercenary that you can use in the rest of the game?

[@counterhit121]

I normally hate these developer panels. Like at Evo this past weekend, the fighting game studios all gave these sterile, corporate, say-a-lot-words-that-don't-mean-anything shpiels and all i wanted to do was to fast forward them. However, I could not get enough of this group! I loved how loose they were, esp the Blizzard OGs, how Chris and the POE guys were both reverent but also clearly rising to the challenge of building and improving upon the legacy of the OGs. Super thoughtful guys with a fun mix of personality among them, great energy, and another high mark that bodes well for POE2.

[@jeffrey778]

something i been thinking about is the relationship between skipping dialog and and looking at white items on the ground, there is a similarity of it all becoming white noise to the point it hinders gameplay from a progression standpoint. there is an argument to be made or discussion about the very presence of lower tier items wasting your time almost more then any cut scene or dialog can. the argument is, even looking at a lower tier item is wasting your time, but i guess that's why filters are made. last epoch system is the best for this i think, you make your own filter and you know when the most valued item for your build drops is because you specifically filtered it your self, i feel unidentified items are super vestigial at this point.

[@AndOneJLin]

You did a really awesome job.

[@lazylautrec6933]

Ohhhhhh Brevik I found my 2nd zod rune last season and it only took me 15 years. Thank you.

[@ADDeeJay]

If anyone decides to play hellgate: run all white enchanted armor and just get the biggest weapon possible. White enchanted armor costs 0 stats to wear. You therefore make all the armor slots stat positive, which in turn allows you to wear insanely powerful weapons.

[@blazedehart2748]

Wow. What an all star line up here!!

[@nebulous798]

Kripp is a natural!

[@yeah5874]

Wow I missed this one thanks for uploading krippers

[@varesh3136]

It feels natural watching kripp interviews well done sir definitely keep it going you got the talent for it

[@MrXYZMEE]

This was great thx❤

[@marinbah2401]

the Grandfathers and Kripp

[@FacterinoCommenterino]

Today's Fact: The world's first ever emoji was created in 1999 by a Japanese artist, and it was a simple heart symbol.

[@a1pha_star]

Thank you Facterino, very cool! ❤

[@joelhodoborgas]

Legends...

[@DragonDyce]

Great Questions

[@Kevmoeman]

Great job with this kripp!

[@aghy4076]

Kripp MVP!

[@markusk3015]

We need Torchlight2 in a Hellgate London Version, Yeah>

[@foxsmith5718]

Why does POE get a woohoo, because that was Max, David, and Erich who uplifted RPG, WAY before POE ever existed- Is this a POE Convention?-

[@MatDuJardin]

Legends ! much love

[@ivansky1027]

It was inspiring!

[@delgar89]

This was a pure gold. GG WP kripp

[@twinstars8812]

Fucking EPIC

[@briza_md]

Great talk!

[@herbstomp003]

shocking Path of Exile 2 development = Kripparrian is actually a cyborg!

[@thisscreensucks]

agree with kripp here AHHHH, FRESH MEAT! NOT EVEN DEATH CAN SAVE YOU FROM ME RAKANISHU!

[@xorxeloco8708]

THIS VIDEO IS THE PINNACLE OF ARPG NERDAGE. I LOVE IT!

[@AGR_13]

Timestamps for anyone who wants to know 0:00 - Intros 4:20 - How do you feel by every attack being telegraphed by a red circle? 6:56 - Why did you start making ARPG's? 12:00 - Opinions on trading and Gold in ARPG's 17:10 - How do you balance quality vs quantity for loot? 24:15 - How do you find a balance between action and story telling? 29:35 - What is your favorite Boss in any ARPG? 32:55 - What is your take on Magic Find? 34:50 - What is the smallest addition or change that brought you Joy? 37:40 - How do you feel about community tools and mods? 41:18 - How do you deal with everyone's character being the 1 true hero? 42:50 - What game, or certain patch of a game, would you play for the rest of your life if you could only pick 1? 44:33 - What do you think of Survivor games like Halls of Torment and Vampire Survivors? 46:40 - How does playing your own game feel vs playing a game you had no hand in? 48:40 - Aside from killing monsters, what is your favorite way to award player power? 50:00 - Why don't you all team up to make the Ultimate Game?

[@Stefiou974]

3:37 - "Hi im Chris Wilson from Grinding Gear Games"

[@CheckmateStallioN]

The veterans from Blizz North that actually made great games

[@joelhodoborgas]

@@jaysonbird3975 dafuq you on about dude, gotta change weed strains cause this one is making you weird

[@edsherwook5196]

Pretty funny you feel the need to attack Diablo to compliment Poe, how many hours u got on d4?

[@edsherwook5196]

@@jaysonbird3975 did I quote u dummy?

[@majafarkhani87]

@@jaysonbird3975 not sure what you guys are arguing about but he does mention his game at the 45:00 mark. The steam reviews seem pretty high for the game.

[@ezaf5989]

@@edsherwook5196pretty funny how d4 was made by 9000 people and still has no endgame content stay mad

[@apobabook3145]

And Blizzard didn't invite any of the OG Diablo crew ever to a blizzcon. Shame on you blizzard.

[@whatttxd]

Probably why all their new releases suck since then

[@pzapumpin]

Great job hosting - flow of the questions and conversation felt very natural and had good progression. I'm sure Rania was heavily involved, cheers and good work sir.

[@MrJayhwk]

Queued up the video thinking an hour was a bit long, then Kripp hits with "We are almost out of time" and I'm like "Already?!". Great Panel!

[@Kanner111]

I clicked on this and saw the lineup and then saw it was only 57 minutes long and I was already disappointed before I'd even started the video. =(

[@PSL1969]

The Blizzard North guys are LEGENDS!

[@swampsect]

Wish David Brevik could work on D4.

[@Fingolfin3423]

This was so incredibly fun to watch. I thoroughly enjoyed it. My deepest feeling here is that Exilecon knew how important something like this roundtable would be, and specifically the members on the roundtable. I'm always interested in hearing what David Brevik has to say. It shows a level of respect, gratitude, fun, and friendship for the POE people to coordinate and have David here with them, as well as the other members, who are all accomplished men in their field. This was my favorite part of Exilecon. You don't see this kind of effort with Activision-Blizzard anymore. Not for many, many years. I'm 39 years old and grew up with all of these games, and I've been fortunate enough to see how that company changed over time, and not for the better.

[@nuggetpiece]

In the future (if you have to do this again), you should rotate the question to different guests first. It will help guests have a chance to speak up first and not always just add a trickle to what everyone has already said.

[@mentalicmutant1758]

True. Interview was great but I felt bad for the dude at the end.

[@DailyTechShot]

Chris Wilson earned his place between those guys. He takes away a 3-4 months of my time per year.

[@barryschalkwijk9388]

thank god they had the Schaeffers on there but i'm missing Bill Roper.

[@MrDigitop]

Brevik is such a rebel lmao, proudly wearing a blizz t-shirt in the middle of a PoE convention at a time when D4 juggernaut is being threaten by a serious salvo like the incoming PoE 2, guy's a legend lol

[@HUinstinct]

He should be damn proud!

[@aaagaming2023]

The reason the Diablo franchise even exists to this day is because of guys like him. Many may not like D4 but everyone in that room, including Chris, absolutely loves D2.

[@itubogdan]

@@aaagaming2023 Chris is the 0.1% of mega nerds of D2 , proly even now plays it . If D2 didnt exist , PoE would not exist.

[@mindpunkyt]

😎👌haha👍👌

[@mindpunkyt]

Yes he should be proud😁😁👍

[@JBengaIII]

An hour was not enough time. There was so much good stuff here.

[@overtrist]

Halls of Torment is a better version of Vampire Survivors imo. The genre has a lot of room for improvement still.

[@dgeezedge2027]

Robotron 2048, that was cited as a game to play forever by Travis Baldree here, has sort of an Hall of tourment feel , if you see it, just 35 years ago

[@stpnpl]

Dang! Chris Wilson is really a fan of Diablo 2...

[@solverxd]

Interesting that David Brevik chose to rock the Blizzard shirt for this event 😅

[@LegendaryBrandon1]

Because everyone should be on the same team, that's how we get better games.

[@solverxd]

​@@LegendaryBrandon1I appreciate that sentiment. But Brevik is no longer with Blizzard and the bridge between them was burnt in a not so friendly manner. Thats why I found his wardrobe choice amusing.

[@bobothebob4716]

@@solverxd When you live at that level, you can still love making games, but there is no Tribalism. I'm sure you have no loyalties whether Activision or Tencent is paying you a quarter million for parttime consultations. It's the fans that get into the weird gamer politics, not the employees.

[@dannyp9210]

Maybe it was the shirt they used during the Blizzard North days, so it's kinda an homage to that?

[@acea5683]

Jay Wilson, the creator of diablo 3 called David Brevik a loser (Fck that loser) and was fired for it, so I think they are on good terms personally regardless of what happened professionally.

[@cloontang89]

These guys are legends and there is no one better suited to host this roundtable. Thanks Kripp, you are (in my opinion) the best representative this genre has, and I am always excited to see what your input is. Absolutely pumped for PoE2! 💪

[@Wissle]

That was seriously interesting, thank you!

[@GPCNickel]

Listening to these genuine and nice legends of everything ARPG gave me the biggest grin that lasted for the whole interview. Very well done!

[@mje1984x]

Dude. You're good at this.

[@TheSeth256]

"We can no longer add bosses like Butcher in D1 that brutally kill you so early". Meanwhile Fromsoftware laugh in Tree Sentinel xD

[@Kp-wl3lg]

After this panel i like Chris Wilson even more! The are all realy cool ppl!

[@TrueGbPimp06]

When you see a bunch of older men on a stage and Kripp opens with 'this should last 10 hours' , you immediately think 5 minutes is too much. Then after the hour spent watching the video , you genuinely wonder why this didn't last 10 hours , and would that even be enough.

[@FlameMage2]

Excellent job dude truly pro. I loved how you made sure David got in there! Do a 3 hour podcast with Brevik ok :p Thanks for all you do man!

[@EwokPanda]

I never realized how much David Brevik talks and acts like Brian Posehn until now.

[@stiv66630]

such a fantastic line up right here, to bad it was just a hour i guess every good thing must have an end

[@Smokestack82]

I am so surprised David didn't hijack most of the talking time. I also wouldn't have minded it. Big ups to whoever put this panel together.

[@Muscimologram]

Honestly kripp you deserve a talk show, such a great host

[@seeker296]

Incredible idea

[@thequestline2227]

I'd love to have seen the guys from Crate during the storytelling question. "We decided to attach a game to our book trilogy."

[@theodenstore]

Schaefer’s Hammer

[@MrLordMooMoo]

Not round, no table. False advertising

[@cakewalk4602]

lmao

[@Jeapie_z]

44:10 best moment

[@BladeBloodreaver]

Great roundtable! Very cool to see the past and present devs for our favorite ARPGs! Didn't know how many of them worked on TL1 and 2, explains why those games "clicked" for me as well and the TL games after that didnt. (same with D3 btw, I didn't like that game nearly as much as D2)

[@PrivateSy4z]

Kripp is an excellent moderator. He's calm, he lets people speak but still manages to move things along and keep the time. Were the questions pre-chosen from the list by stadd or did Kripp choose them? Because I assume there were a lot of really bad questions in the mix but the ones that Kripp asked were all amazing questions and they created great discussion.

[@XENON3120]

i would love to see somebody that was part of divine divinity development, that game is a masterpiece in my book

[@_robespierre]

oh yeah hellgate london...dont rip my heart out again. torchlight 2 was a hell of a fun game - with the right patch and the right MOD tho^^. makes me wanna play it again now haha. this was an excellent talk, fun and on point answers, no craptalk

[@XtraCrispy]

This is a table of GOD!

[@michaellancaster7092]

its a real shame all this d1 and d2 talk for inspiration and it led us to d4, worst arpg in a while

[@xDBoomer]

Bring back hellgate London!!!

[@CrazySw3de]

Hey Kripp long on and off viewer since the early hearthstone days, but just wanted to say you killed it at these events! Came across very calm, cool, and collected, was great seeing you lead so many of these interesting discussions. I actually held off playing PoE until now cause I thought it looked too complicated, but watching everything here has made me decide to take the dive and try it out. Keep doing what you do, happy for you and all your success!

[@CrazySw3de]

@@PatchesFlannigan Thanks for the advice! I'm having a blast in my first league, kind of purposefully trying to go in mostly blind for my first run. I do love the general idea though of getting that sort of fresh start every now and then, it kind of shares what I love about rogue likes in that sense just over a longer time period. Thanks again for your insight!

[@Draehir]

@@CrazySw3de one small bit of advice is life/defenses from your passive tree are crucial, many people on their first character will ignore all defensive passives and grab only offensive stuff and kick themselves later when they have to remake their character

[@xmoose9]

To get those people such a legendary line-up together to talk like that! Thank you very much sir that was awesome, it's just always too short for me :')

[@123cxzaqwe]

amazing interview. thank you